Cleveland Browns 2024 Edition

Drawing of dome leaked.

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from cleveland.com:

COLUMBUS, Ohio—The Cleveland Browns want taxpayers to foot half the bill for either a proposed $2.4 billion dome stadium in Brook Park or a $1 billion renovation of their existing stadium in downtown Cleveland, according to sources familiar with the discussions. While no plan has yet been agreed upon, the public’s share of those costs – $1.2 billion for a domed stadium in Brook Park or $500 million to renovate the Browns’ lakefront stadium – would be split between the state, county, and either the city of Brook Park or city of Cleveland, respectively, multiple sources said.

Lawmakers who attended last Wednesday’s group meeting said Browns representatives took steps to limit the spread of the information they presented, not giving lawmakers any written handouts about their proposals and asking attendees not to use their cell phones so that no pictures of the Brook Park stadium renderings would be leaked.

The renderings showed a rectangular domed stadium set 80 feet into the ground, so as not to interfere with planes from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, which sits adjacent to the site the team is eyeing as an option for the dome, according to meeting attendees. “It looked pretty fabulous,” said one of the attendees, Republican state Rep. Gayle Manning of North Ridgeville.

Lawmakers said they were told the Browns want the stadium to be used during the NFL off-season for concerts and other events.
The Browns representatives also laid out plans for building an extensive entertainment district of bars, restaurants, hotels and condos around the new stadium, lawmakers said. Most of that development would be privately funded, according to a source familiar with the plans.

Team representatives talked more about the Brook Park plans than the alternative of renovating the existing Cleveland Browns Stadium, lawmakers said, though they were told that a dome would not be able to be built on top of the existing stadium for financial and structural reasons.
How bout they sell their 800 million stake in the Bucks to pay for it.
 
Regarding the dome, it definitely changes the culture of your franchise…sometimes for the worse. When the Vikings played outdoors, they were considered a rugged franchise that you had to beat in frozen playoff temps if you wanted to beat them. They went to four Super Bowls as those Vikings. Since they’ve moved indoors they’ve become a finesse franchise that has trouble on grass fields in the elements and they have never been back to the Super Bowl and are not feared.
 
Regarding the dome, it definitely changes the culture of your franchise…sometimes for the worse. When the Vikings played outdoors, they were considered a rugged franchise that you had to beat in frozen playoff temps if you wanted to beat them. They went to four Super Bowls as those Vikings. Since they’ve moved indoors they’ve become a finesse franchise that has trouble on grass fields in the elements and they have never been back to the Super Bowl and are not feared.
Well, no one can accuse the Browns of being a successful franchise, except in antiquity.


BTW, Duke Johnson announced his retirement.

 
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Regarding the dome, it definitely changes the culture of your franchise…sometimes for the worse. When the Vikings played outdoors, they were considered a rugged franchise that you had to beat in frozen playoff temps if you wanted to beat them. They went to four Super Bowls as those Vikings. Since they’ve moved indoors they’ve become a finesse franchise that has trouble on grass fields in the elements and they have never been back to the Super Bowl and are not feared.
For the Browns changing should be a good thing … as it stands they have never been to a SB … so change would send them to a SB
 
Browns, Ravens, Steelers have the most difficult schedules for the 2024 season. Cincinnati tied for the 16th most difficult.
 
Regarding the dome, it definitely changes the culture of your franchise…sometimes for the worse. When the Vikings played outdoors, they were considered a rugged franchise that you had to beat in frozen playoff temps if you wanted to beat them. They went to four Super Bowls as those Vikings. Since they’ve moved indoors they’ve become a finesse franchise that has trouble on grass fields in the elements and they have never been back to the Super Bowl and are not feared.
The Vikings pounded the rock with Adrian Peterson for like 6 years and won nothing. The NFL is a passing league, not a running league. Look at past 5 Super Bowl winners
 
Cleveland invokes Modell Law. It will eventually go to court if the Haslams are set on moving to Brookpark.

And Cleveland will lose

The Haslim will just wait until the lease is up at Cleveland Browns Stadium
 
The Vikings pounded the rock with Adrian Peterson for like 6 years and won nothing. The NFL is a passing league, not a running league. Look at past 5 Super Bowl winners
Dude, that was ancient history, long before they bastardized the rules to the pass happy league we have now.
 
Dude, that was ancient history, long before they bastardized the rules to the pass happy league we have now.
You just proved your own point wrong then by talking about a team from 10 years ago when you were talking about a team from the 70’s
 
You just proved your own point wrong then by talking about a team from 10 years ago when you were talking about a team from the 70’s
No, as someone who watched most of those games and held season tickets for many years, they were still largely an overall finesse team even when AP was getting his yards. They just never were a team that could beat you up, mostly because the defenses were typically lighter and geared more for speed than size, even when Zimmer was coach and wanted to project a run first/tough D image. They had a couple years in the late 1980s where the D was pretty physical, with Keith Millard and Chris Doleman on the line, but for the most part the Vikings haven’t been known as an overly physical/tough team in their dome era.
 
Cleveland invokes Modell Law. It will eventually go to court if the Haslams are set on moving to Brookpark.

Not sure if this has been discussed, but the irony here is that the Haslams used the Modell Law when they bought the Columbus Crew (MLS).

The A-hole owner of the Crew at that time was Anthony Precourt. Grade A Prime #1 A-hole. Intentionally let the roster go to pot and let the stadium go to pot to drive attendance down, and then set it up with the MLS to move the team to Austin Texas, where he worked out a stadium deal. A huge movement in Columbus called "Save the Crew" started, a local group led by a doctor got the Haslams interested in buying, and then they invoked the Modell Law and threatened court unless Precourt sold to them. It worked.

Now the Crew has a shiny new downtown stadium, a great roster, and 2 MLS Championships in the last 4 years. Precourt's Austin franchise is trash. There is justice in the world, sometimes.
 
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The five teams with the toughest strength of schedule are the Cleveland Browns (.547), the Cincinnati Bengals (.536), the Pittsburgh Steelers (.533), the Houston Texans (.526) and the Green Bay Packers (.526).

 
The five teams with the toughest strength of schedule are the Cleveland Browns (.547), the Cincinnati Bengals (.536), the Pittsburgh Steelers (.533), the Houston Texans (.526) and the Green Bay Packers (.526).

A lot of it is that the AFC north did really well last year. There was no true bottom feeder
 
Browns vs Bengals on Christmas Day?

Cleveland. Cincy. Christmas?!

The NFL is about to embark on a Christmas Day invasion with a holiday doubleheader on a Wednesday - what took them so long? - in 2024. Forget "The Grinch.'' The NFL is about to steal Christmas ... and one NFL insider is predicting that the Cleveland Browns will be one of the "culprits.'' Peter Schrager of Good Morning Football took has issued a "bold prediction'' as we await the NFL schedule release, scheduled for May 15. And a highlight for Ohio: Peter writes on Instagram that he foresees a Christmas Day matchup between the in-state and NFC North rivals the Browns and the Bengals.


 
Browns vs Bengals on Christmas Day?

Cleveland. Cincy. Christmas?!

The NFL is about to embark on a Christmas Day invasion with a holiday doubleheader on a Wednesday - what took them so long? - in 2024. Forget "The Grinch.'' The NFL is about to steal Christmas ... and one NFL insider is predicting that the Cleveland Browns will be one of the "culprits.'' Peter Schrager of Good Morning Football took has issued a "bold prediction'' as we await the NFL schedule release, scheduled for May 15. And a highlight for Ohio: Peter writes on Instagram that he foresees a Christmas Day matchup between the in-state and NFC North rivals the Browns and the Bengals.


Did Peter really say NFC North rivals or is that a typo?
 
Browns vs Bengals on Christmas Day?

Cleveland. Cincy. Christmas?!

The NFL is about to embark on a Christmas Day invasion with a holiday doubleheader on a Wednesday - what took them so long? - in 2024. Forget "The Grinch.'' The NFL is about to steal Christmas ... and one NFL insider is predicting that the Cleveland Browns will be one of the "culprits.'' Peter Schrager of Good Morning Football took has issued a "bold prediction'' as we await the NFL schedule release, scheduled for May 15. And a highlight for Ohio: Peter writes on Instagram that he foresees a Christmas Day matchup between the in-state and NFC North rivals the Browns and the Bengals.


Almost as stupid as playing the opener on a Friday.
 
Thursday night is tough enough, following a Sunday game. Wednesday is just stupid - players cannot recover properly and coaches do not have time to prep a game plan. I cannot imagine the players union would go along with that, unless all of the teams playing on a Wednesday have a bye the previous weekend.
 
Thursday night is tough enough, following a Sunday game. Wednesday is just stupid - players cannot recover properly and coaches do not have time to prep a game plan. I cannot imagine the players union would go along with that, unless all of the teams playing on a Wednesday have a bye the previous weekend.

Christmas would be very late for a bye week. When the NFL goes to a 18 game regular season schedule they will most likely implement a 2nd bye week which will make the Christmas bye easier to accommodate.
 
Yes, I understand that, which is why I am saying it is a bad idea.

Think of other options: Late in the season the NFL plays some Saturday games. The teams that would play on Christmas Wednesday could play the Saturday prior. This thy would have the same amount of time between games for the Xmas games as a team would for a typical Thursday game.

There is $$$ to be made and the NFL will find a way to make it happen.
 
Browns open season at home against the Cowboys, which means there will be plenty of national media coverage, since the Cowboys are the darlings and Dak Prescott is the most over-publicized player with no championships.


Also, reportedly, Tom Brady's first game as an analyst.
 
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Browns open season at home against the Cowboys, which means there will be plenty of national media coverage, since the Cowboys are the darlings and Dak Prescott is the most over-publicized player with no championships.


Also, reportedly, Tom Brady's first game as an analyst.
And the Browns are cashing in. Ticket prices were raised sky high for the game.
 
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