How many times has Moeller beat the Bummers in basketball, wrestling, baseball and you can go back as long you'd like? Oh, forgot to mention, at the VARSITY level.
I think some of the Bummers issues with Moeller is the increased competitiveness in football and it not translating to other sports.
Also, if it's not about athletics then, don't post on this website and start a competitive academic blog about chess teams, stock market games and the like.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute you wanna beat on your chest about National Merit Scholars and then you turn around and spout off about athletics.
Fact of the matter is, this thread had nothing to do with the Bummers, it was about the GMC boycotting Moeller and you turdburglers destroyed this thread, like you do with countless other topics.
You don't even have a dog in the fight, get a life.
I can't argue with anything you said in this post.
Scouting freshmen games. Who the heck cares? By the time the freshmen are juniors half of them have achieved another level or 2 of physical maturity and athleticism, 10% are injured, 20% are playing another position,injured and 20% are no longer in the program or have full time girl friends and have lost interest. I'm not sure what scouting freshmen has to do with winning varsity games.
The real issue is that Moeller has been exonerated and the GMC folks (Get Moeller Crazies) are showing a surprising level of immaturity with a boycott. I'm certainly no Moeller apologist and still have a bad memory from the Faust days when I was at X. I don't see this as a gain for the GMC. They need to man up and gain satisfaction by beating Moeller on the field. The old fashioned way.
How many times has Moeller beat the Bummers in basketball, wrestling, baseball and you can go back as long you'd like? Oh, forgot to mention, at the VARSITY level.
I think some of the Bummers issues with Moeller is the increased competitiveness in football and it not translating to other sports.
Also, if it's not about athletics then, don't post on this website and start a competitive academic blog about chess teams, stock market games and the like.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. One minute you wanna beat on your chest about National Merit Scholars and then you turn around and spout off about athletics.
Fact of the matter is, this thread had nothing to do with the Bummers, it was about the GMC boycotting Moeller and you turdburglers destroyed this thread, like you do with countless other topics.
You don't even have a dog in the fight, get a life.
Yeah, you kill us in everything. That's why you always win the GCL All Sports Trophy every year. Oh, that's right, we won that... again! Almost all the games against Moeller in every sport was competitive in 2011-2012 except for wrestling. Otherwise, the programs are pretty even athletically and then VASTLY unequal intellectually. As for this thread, didn't you graduate from Moeller years ago? I have kids attending St. X is why I keep up with these threads. You have what at Moeller? The initials of a boy you really liked etched into a locker you occupied Junior year?
Are you serious? Why aren't Elder, X and LaSalle scouting? CYO teams do it all the time, so what makes Freshman scouting off limits?!?!? It's all part of the game, if you have a staff that is dedicated and has someone willing to scout the opposition then what's the big deal?
The CYO teams that do it have been busted quite a few times in football for filming opponent's games and/or taking notes on an opposing team since the new GCYL was formed. The most successful teams over the past couple of seasons, St Michael's (used a 15 year old), St Susanna (scouting) and All Saints all send quite a few kids to Moeller. I'm sure that doesn't help them either.
Yeah, you kill us in everything. That's why you always win the GCL All Sports Trophy every year. Oh, that's right, we won that... again! Almost all the games against Moeller in every sport was competitive in 2011-2012 except for wrestling. Otherwise, the programs are pretty even athletically and then VASTLY unequal intellectually. As for this thread, didn't you graduate from Moeller years ago? I have kids attending St. X is why I keep up with these threads. You have what at Moeller? The initials of a boy you really liked etched into a locker you occupied Junior year?
You have sons at St. X and you spend your time on message boards insulting people? Glad you're a parent.
Please list the sports you beat Moeller in and I bet it looks like Kenwood Country Club vs. Hyde Park Country Club in those sports listed.
If Moeller is vastly unequal in intelligence, why do you care?
Moeller has never tried to, nor do they want to be St. X. If anything, contrary to your belief, Moeller seems to have marketed themselves quite well in comparison.
PS. I'll take John Boehner and his accomplishments over anything you got, Dad.
When St. X brings kids up, it's more for a cup of coffee. I wouldn't say they played on Varsity if they come up in Oct and run with the scout team. One kid got in on a few kick off coverages. I'll give you Hilliard and Milligan as they were with the team all their Freshman year in 2010. I don't see this as a trend however.
You don't see trends very well.
In football alone (I won't invest more time to look at other rosters)
No frosh on roster until 2009...then two (Molnar, Millican)...in just two years...it is seven. Two or three sophs (seems about right) for many years...then all of a sudden....8-9??? I would never, ever, ever...say that I heard your visor wearer likes to promise roster spots to starry eyed incoming parents...I would never say that. Note: I did not say playing time. But I wouldn't say that either.
Let'er rip. Remember...I posted the data, I didn't make it up. This is not my opinion, it is a trend...except for the stuff I would never, ever say.
Yeah, you kill us in everything. That's why you always win the GCL All Sports Trophy every year. Oh, that's right, we won that... again! Almost all the games against Moeller in every sport was competitive in 2011-2012 except for wrestling. Otherwise, the programs are pretty even athletically and then VASTLY unequal intellectually. As for this thread, didn't you graduate from Moeller years ago? I have kids attending St. X is why I keep up with these threads. You have what at Moeller? The initials of a boy you really liked etched into a locker you occupied Junior year?
"Vastly unequal intellectualy"... why am I not surpised to hear that from a St. X poster
As far as the programs being even...give me a break. The coaching at Moeller (other than football) is laughably better as so are the results. if you don't believe me, just ask the parents of X kids that play basketball, baseball and wrestling as see first hand how frustrated they are with the leadership of those programs.
Yeah, you kill us in everything. That's why you always win the GCL All Sports Trophy every year. Oh, that's right, we won that... again! Almost all the games against Moeller in every sport was competitive in 2011-2012 except for wrestling. Otherwise, the programs are pretty even athletically and then VASTLY unequal intellectually. As for this thread, didn't you graduate from Moeller years ago? I have kids attending St. X is why I keep up with these threads. You have what at Moeller? The initials of a boy you really liked etched into a locker you occupied Junior year?
I hate to do it...but since you used "VASTLY" in caps...I will have to throw down an official "Juice Daniels" card. A real show stopper...and the offical trump card of all academic rankings of X over Moe. For future reference...you can't have the disclaimer below on your website and expect something like a JD trump card not to exist with over 1600 students.
Special Consideration
"Grandsons, sons, and brothers of St. Xavier alumni and brothers of current St. Xavier students may be given special consideration. To promote diversity, special consideration may be given to members of groups not traditionally represented at St. Xavier. The admission of any student is solely at the discretion of St. Xavier, and these considerations may be modified from time to time without notice."
"Vastly unequal intellectualy"... why am I not surpised to hear that from a St. X poster
As far as the programs being even...give me a break. The coaching at Moeller (other than football) is laughably better as so are the results. if you don't believe me, just ask the parents of X kids that play basketball, baseball and wrestling as see first hand how frustrated they are with the leadership of those programs.
I'll agree that outside of Football, your coaches are much better and they coach year round like Football. My point was, we're competitive even in Basketball and Baseball and our coaches are knuckleheads in those sports. Wrestling, hands down, Moe.
I hate to do it...but since you used "VASTLY" in caps...I will have to throw down an official "Juice Daniels" card. A real show stopper...and the offical trump card of all academic rankings of X over Moe. For future reference...you can't have the disclaimer below on your website and expect something like a JD trump card not to exist with over 1600 students.
Special Consideration "Grandsons, sons, and brothers of St. Xavier alumni and brothers of current St. Xavier students may be given special consideration. To promote diversity, special consideration may be given to members of groups not traditionally represented at St. Xavier. The admission of any student is solely at the discretion of St. Xavier, and these considerations may be modified from time to time without notice."
This allows the special donors to the school the ability to get little Spaulding enrolled and outfitted in Blue.
I'll agree that outside of Football, your coaches are much better and they coach year round like Football. My point was, we're competitive even in Basketball and Baseball and our coaches are knuckleheads in those sports. Wrestling, hands down, Moe.
Roady is 3-2 over Specht? So, maybe a little too much X hype as well.
Bowling and Cross Country. Really? We we lost by 6 in each of these sports to X...and lost overall by 5?????? WTF........GET OUR RECRUITERS ON THESE SPORTS!!
Roady is 3-2 over Specht? So, maybe a little too much X hype as well.
Bowling and Cross Country. Really? We we lost by 6 in each of these sports to X...and lost overall by 5?????? WTF........GET OUR RECRUITERS ON THESE SPORTS!!
I'll agree that outside of Football, your coaches are much better and they coach year round like Football. My point was, we're competitive even in Basketball and Baseball and our coaches are knuckleheads in those sports. Wrestling, hands down, Moe.
[quote=moejoe83;5079105]I hate to do it...but since you used "VASTLY" in caps...I will have to throw down an official "Juice Daniels" card. A real show stopper...and the offical trump card of all academic rankings of X over Moe.
Tell me you didn't just play the Juice Daniels card ....I thought you left kids names off of this site?
"Vastly unequal intellectualy"... why am I not surpised to hear that from a St. X poster
As far as the programs being even...give me a break. The coaching at Moeller (other than football) is laughably better as so are the results. if you don't believe me, just ask the parents of X kids that play basketball, baseball and wrestling as see first hand how frustrated they are with the leadership of those programs.
In this town, it starts and ends with high school football...enjoy your ride in the other sports (you are blessed to have excellent coaches in these sports)...I'm actually glad you are raising the bar... and I am glad parents of kids are getting frustrated as you say..that is an agent for good change.
Some of you guys need to be a bit more careful when you quote someone on here. You are deleting one of the [ which is causing some of the confusion on who quote belongs to who.
The first part of the quote should be [quote]
the las part of the quote should be [/quote1] without the #1 in there. I had to change it slightly so it wouldn't create a quote box.
What I see some of yo8u doing is deleting part of the message within the quotes and when you do you delete one of th [
Then when someone quotes your quote the alignment gets distorted. Just thought I share that FYI because it seems the quotes have been misaligned quite a bit today.
I have one question for which I don't exactly know the answer: Why is pretty much every thread turning into a "discussion" about St. X? It used to be Massillon-Hoover, now it's St.X-everyone.
Don't shoot the messenger cowboy. He stated "no freshman" and I said "lately"....I proved that wrong. I simply showed the trend that X is using younger and younger ballplayers and taking Senior playing time. I like it...any time we can put a senior on a frosh or soph...I am good with that...keep up the trend!
The trend I've noticed since the turn of the century has been StX playing well into November with Moeller turning in pads in October.
Since you've taken such an interest in 4 year varsity players at StX there is a 230lb DLineman at this weeks incoming freshman camp that the varsity coaches want to get a look at in pads in @6 weeks.
The trend I've noticed since the turn of the century has been StX playing well into November with Moeller turning in pads in October.
Since you've taken such an interest in 4 year varsity players at StX there is a 230lb DLineman at this weeks incoming freshman camp that the varsity coaches want to get a look at in pads in @6 weeks.
Be very clear...I have zero interest. Dude said I was wrong about Frosh playing...I proved I was not. No big deal, I was really, really bored and trusted my brain from games where I felt bad for seniors or juniors (and the parents) that were replaced by a frosh on varsity. I guess the cupboard somehow gets that bare with 350 players in the program.
I have one question for which I don't exactly know the answer: Why is pretty much every thread turning into a "discussion" about St. X? It used to be Massillon-Hoover, now it's St.X-everyone.
Damn good question Tom....probably because it is easier to talk about X than address the actual thread topic...and we're bored waiting for Football season to start
Be very clear...I have zero interest. Dude said I was wrong about Frosh playing...I proved I was not. No big deal, I was really, really bored and trusted my brain from games where I felt bad for seniors or juniors (and the parents) that were replaced by a frosh on varsity. I guess the cupboard somehow gets that bare with 350 players in the program.
After reading this blog I have to comment ... FACT: Cincinnati St. Xavier has been proactively soliciting area athletes, both Catholic and non-Catholic, to attend their institution of higher education since the 1960's. That is fact through the 1980's where many high school football fans believe that St. Xavier had superior athletes but inferior coaching.
I have one question for which I don't exactly know the answer: Why is pretty much every thread turning into a "discussion" about St. X? It used to be Massillon-Hoover, now it's St.X-everyone.
X posters won the yappi "all threads" trophy again this year.
Be very clear...I have zero interest. Dude said I was wrong about Frosh playing...I proved I was not. No big deal, I was really, really bored and trusted my brain from games where I felt bad for seniors or juniors (and the parents) that were replaced by a frosh on varsity. I guess the cupboard somehow gets that bare with 350 players in the program.
Frosh are only on varsity if they can contribute.
Milligan (9 carries, 7 catches) and Hilliard (28 carries) also played in JV games.
The 230lb frosh DLineman will get a look because he's shown great quickness and technique in camp, strength in the weight room, X has a need at the position and he comes from good stock (dad was Outland Trophy winner with the Aggies and 5 yr NFL).
By the way how did that turn out when StX frosh hvywt Lane wrestled Moeller senior Lally at Moeller last winter?