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Old 05-21-12, 05:57 PM
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Everybody sleeping on Sycamore again this year? They return quite a lot from a playoff team a year ago.
That's how Dattillo rolls...we underestimate them, they end up having a stellar season. Why change now?
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Old 05-21-12, 07:17 PM
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I'm usually not that talented at judging HS football...but after attending Pboy's Cincinnati Highschool Football Fantasy Draft and napping J.Marshall of Purplethangtown...gotta go with my money maker..

1. The Jalin Marshall Show
2. Da Saders
3. Purple Thangs on the West Side
4. Coletrain
5. The Indians with the Marching Band bigger then 'themselves'
6. Giant Horned Deers
7. Red Knights with Sticks
8. Spacerocks
9. West Chester West
10. West Chester East

Hope i didn't miss anybody, Gl to all the teams!

I think I was entertained trying to figure out what teams wiz was talking about (also the fact that my 3 year old had a ball laughing at the inserted "party" emoticons lol) . Is the following the proper translation?

1. Middletown
2. Moeller
3. Elder
4. Colerain
5. Wayne
6. Centerville
7. LaSalle
8. Mason
9. Lakota West
10. Lakota East
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Old 05-21-12, 08:39 PM
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I think I was entertained trying to figure out what teams wiz was talking about (also the fact that my 3 year old had a ball laughing at the inserted "party" emoticons lol) . Is the following the proper translation?

1. Middletown
2. Moeller
3. Elder
4. Colerain
5. Wayne
6. Centerville
7. LaSalle
8. Mason
9. Lakota West
10. Lakota East
Amazed St. X doesn't show up despite their 3 consecutive playoff trips.

2009 9-3
2010 7-5
2011 10-4
2012 - not ranked? Say wha'?
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Old 05-21-12, 08:59 PM
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So are Sycamore and Princeton going to make a scream this year, anybody? I liked the run Mason had.
Again, the Vikes will be a lot better than people think. Playoffs are a real possibility.
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Old 05-21-12, 09:01 PM
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Amazed St. X doesn't show up despite their 3 consecutive playoff trips.

2009 9-3
2010 7-5
2011 10-4
2012 - not ranked? Say wha'?
Lol. It is probably an oversite in his/her attempt to be clever and witty.
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Old 05-21-12, 09:43 PM
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I'd put Lakota East in the top 10. They have a very solid incoming Junior class. Probably one of the best in the city.
LMAO--

The Lakota folks are always talking up their team before the season starts...then its all **Cricket** by week 4...
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Old 05-21-12, 11:11 PM
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LMAO--

The Lakota folks are always talking up their team before the season starts...then its all **Cricket** by week 4...
St. X should absolutely be above most GMC teams but everyone should watch out for Lakota East this year. 2013 they'll for sure make the playoffs but this year, they will turn some heads.
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Old 05-22-12, 01:11 AM
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I know Lakota East has a lot of talent coming back for next season, and I'm not denying that. I also like their coaching staff. The thing is, I will not be sold on them until they beat good teams. They went 2-5 in the GMC last year, even with not having to play Middletown. I want to see them win a game against one of the other good teams in the conference like a Sycamore, a Mason, or a Princeton. Heck, for starters, how about beating their crosstown rivals Lakota West? (Haven't done so since '04, despite Larry Cox being West's coach)

Thus, my preseason rankings for the GMC look like this:

1. Colerain (7-0) - will not play Lakota East or Hamilton. They are the best until somebody knocks them off.

2. Middletown (6-1) - will not play Mason or Sycamore. If they can find a way to knock off Colerain, 7-0 in the league will be a real possibility.

2. Mason (6-1) - will not play Oak Hills or Middletown. They are closing the gap with the top two, but not convinced they are quite there yet. I think they are just a little more deep than their rival Sycamore and will win that game.

4. Sycamore (5-2) - will not play Middletown or Lakota West. Don't think they can beat Colerain, but they could probably beat anybody else.

5. Lakota East (4-3) - will not play Colerain or Princeton. Like I said, I'm not convinced about them until they can win 2 of 3 against Sycamore, Mason, and West.

6. Princeton (3-4) - will not play Fairfield or Lakota East. This is a pretty tough conference road to navigate for the Vikes.

7. Hamilton (2-5) - will not play Colerain or Lakota West. Solidly coached football team, just don't think they quite have the talent next season.

7. Lakota West (2-5) - will not play Hamilton or Sycamore. Once again, they will be talented and poorly coached. If they play to their talent level, they are the third best team in the conference.

9. Oak Hills (0-7) - will not play Fairfield or Mason. They just hired New Richmond's coach Dan Scholz. Despite having Demarco Ruffin, he won't have an offensive line or a defense. Welcome to the GMC Coach Scholz!

9. Fairfield (0-7) - will not play Oak Hills or Princeton. This team will actually have some talent, and they will get chances for wins against West and Hamilton and could possibly surprise an East or a Princeton.
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Old 05-22-12, 06:27 PM
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I think East has a real good chance to go at least 5-2 in the GMC this year. Especially since they are not playing Colerain and Princeton who are both better teams. East will be a much better team this year than last and are making adjustments to what they didn't do well.

Middletown would be a great victory but I wouldn't put my money on it. Mason will be a tough match and West is more of a psychological hurdle, East will have more talent but will go 1-1 against these two teams. I see East winning over Sycamore and the rest of the GMC.
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Old 05-22-12, 06:45 PM
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I know Lakota East has a lot of talent coming back for next season, and I'm not denying that. I also like their coaching staff. The thing is, I will not be sold on them until they beat good teams. They went 2-5 in the GMC last year, even with not having to play Middletown. I want to see them win a game against one of the other good teams in the conference like a Sycamore, a Mason, or a Princeton. Heck, for starters, how about beating their crosstown rivals Lakota West? (Haven't done so since '04, despite Larry Cox being West's coach)

Thus, my preseason rankings for the GMC look like this:

1. Colerain (7-0) - will not play Lakota East or Hamilton. They are the best until somebody knocks them off.

2. Middletown (6-1) - will not play Mason or Sycamore. If they can find a way to knock off Colerain, 7-0 in the league will be a real possibility.

2. Mason (6-1) - will not play Oak Hills or Middletown. They are closing the gap with the top two, but not convinced they are quite there yet. I think they are just a little more deep than their rival Sycamore and will win that game.

4. Sycamore (5-2) - will not play Middletown or Lakota West. Don't think they can beat Colerain, but they could probably beat anybody else.

5. Lakota East (4-3) - will not play Colerain or Princeton. Like I said, I'm not convinced about them until they can win 2 of 3 against Sycamore, Mason, and West.

6. Princeton (3-4) - will not play Fairfield or Lakota East. This is a pretty tough conference road to navigate for the Vikes.

7. Hamilton (2-5) - will not play Colerain or Lakota West. Solidly coached football team, just don't think they quite have the talent next season.

7. Lakota West (2-5) - will not play Hamilton or Sycamore. Once again, they will be talented and poorly coached. If they play to their talent level, they are the third best team in the conference.

9. Oak Hills (0-7) - will not play Fairfield or Mason. They just hired New Richmond's coach Dan Scholz. Despite having Demarco Ruffin, he won't have an offensive line or a defense. Welcome to the GMC Coach Scholz!

9. Fairfield (0-7) - will not play Oak Hills or Princeton. This team will actually have some talent, and they will get chances for wins against West and Hamilton and could possibly surprise an East or a Princeton.
Solid.
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Old 05-23-12, 09:51 PM
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Is there a QB for Elder that sat out last year for football/basketball because he transferred without moving? Or is this just a rumor?
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Old 05-24-12, 06:45 AM
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Is there a QB for Elder that sat out last year for football/basketball because he transferred without moving? Or is this just a rumor?
His name would be Devin Pike (Tony's little bro). He transferred from Reading. Is that who you're talking about?
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Old 05-24-12, 10:09 AM
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1. St. X
2. Moeller
3. Colerain (If they stay healthy this year.)
4. Centerville
5. Middletown
6. Elder
7. Wayne
8. LaSalle
9. Lakota East
10. Mason
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Old 05-24-12, 11:01 AM
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His name would be Devin Pike (Tony's little bro). He transferred from Reading. Is that who you're talking about?
He doesn't play QB, but that's probably who he's referring to.
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Old 05-24-12, 11:25 AM
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In region 4 as a whole, this is what I have:

1. Wayne - Javon Harrison is really good and they return a lot on defense.

2. Moeller - They have the most talent in the region but their head coach is incompetent. Maybe the addition of Klonne at offensive coordinator can reduce the negative effect of Rodenberg.

3. St X - This will probably be an average year for talent by X standards, but they have the best coaching staff in the region and will be in every game they play.

4. Middletown - Jalin Marshall is the best pure athlete the region has seen in a long time and I think he has just enough help and they have just a good enough defense to compete with the top teams.

5. Colerain - I actually think Colerain will win the league over Midddletown, but I don't think they can touch the top 3 teams in the region with what their defense is going to be. They also might be ripe for a GMC upset.

6. Elder - They were the best 2-8 team in the history of high school football last year. While 2-8 was bad, they return almost everybody and add transfer Devin Pike to run the offense. Remember, a year makes a really big difference in high school football, especially when you have a good coaching staff.

7. Mason - I think they have the right head coach in place and they are a big school with a lot of athletes. They will compete every year from now on.

8. Centerville - They are basically what Mason is. Big school, well-coached, lot of athletes.

9. Sycamore - Nobody does more with less than Scott Datillo, and they even return half their starters from a playoff team a year ago.

10. Princeton - They must find a quarterback to run their offense or else they will be in a heap of trouble, but I like the direction that Croley is taking this program. Tough schedule this year though.
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Old 05-24-12, 11:27 AM
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He doesn't play QB, but that's probably who he's referring to.
I'm pretty sure that Devin Pike is a quarterback.
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Old 05-24-12, 01:08 PM
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I know colerain lost a ton on defense,........ but they have a lot of skill players coming back on the offense, am i missing something ??

Shouldn't they be explosive enough to make a run ??
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Old 05-24-12, 01:12 PM
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He doesn't play QB, but that's probably who he's referring to.
I think you're right about both.
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Old 05-24-12, 02:04 PM
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I know colerain lost a ton on defense,........ but they have a lot of skill players coming back on the offense, am i missing something ??

Shouldn't they be explosive enough to make a run ??
Yes, they should be their typical self on offense, but........

the defense........

The last 3 years under Kerry Coombs:

'04: 106.4 ypg allowed, 7.6 ppg allowed
'05: 151.1 ypg allowed, 9.6 ppg allowed
'06: 122.3 ypg allowed, 4.7 ppg allowed

Under Tom Bolden:

'07: 168.7 ypg allowed, 8.3 ppg allowed
'08: 230.5 ypg allowed, 17.0 ppg allowed
'09: 212.8 ypg allowed, 10.7 ppg allowed
'10: 198.3 ypg allowed, 9.7 ppg allowed
'11: 211.6 ypg allowed, 9.7 ppg allowed

There has been a very clear drop off in the quality of Colerain's defense. Combine that with the fact that this is probably the least that they have returned on the defensive side of the ball since I can remember, I can't see them shutting down good offensive teams like Middletown, X, Moeller, and Wayne (i.e. these teams are probably good enough to score 3 touchdowns or more on Colerain).
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Old 05-24-12, 04:00 PM
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Lol. It is probably an oversite in his/her attempt to be clever and witty.
Should of let him keep guessing..
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Old 05-24-12, 04:00 PM
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I think I was entertained trying to figure out what teams wiz was talking about (also the fact that my 3 year old had a ball laughing at the inserted "party" emoticons lol) . Is the following the proper translation?

1. Middletown
2. Moeller
3. Elder
4. Colerain
5. Wayne
6. Centerville
7. LaSalle
8. Mason
9. Lakota West
10. Lakota East
Correct....but then again, i'm not an expert....just a man and his keyboard.....
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Old 05-24-12, 06:57 PM
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yeah I was thinking of the Pike kid. What position is he then?
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Old 05-25-12, 10:21 AM
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Didn't Middletown lose a bunch on defense from last year? I'm not quite getting Middletown number #1.
Moeller, St. X, Huber Heights, Centerville, East, Elder and Colerain should all be in the hunt...IMHO. With the possible exception of Moeller, I think region 4 is about as wide open as it's been in a long while. Bring it on...
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Old 05-25-12, 10:26 AM
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Didn't Middletown lose a bunch on defense from last year? I'm not quite getting Middletown number #1.
Moeller, St. X, Huber Heights, Centerville, East, Elder and Colerain should all be in the hunt...IMHO. With the possible exception of Moeller, I think region 4 is about as wide open as it's been in a long while. Bring it on...
Middletown loss 9 starters on defense.
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Old 05-25-12, 03:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Devin Pike is a quarterback.
Not a QB. He played some TE and DE at Reading. His brother was a QB. Lots of rumors about him being one too, especially when the transfer was taking place, but no he is not. Look for him a DE this season for Elder.
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Old 05-26-12, 10:35 PM
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Yes, they should be their typical self on offense, but........

the defense........

The last 3 years under Kerry Coombs:

'04: 106.4 ypg allowed, 7.6 ppg allowed
'05: 151.1 ypg allowed, 9.6 ppg allowed
'06: 122.3 ypg allowed, 4.7 ppg allowed

Under Tom Bolden:

'07: 168.7 ypg allowed, 8.3 ppg allowed
'08: 230.5 ypg allowed, 17.0 ppg allowed
'09: 212.8 ypg allowed, 10.7 ppg allowed
'10: 198.3 ypg allowed, 9.7 ppg allowed
'11: 211.6 ypg allowed, 9.7 ppg allowed

There has been a very clear drop off in the quality of Colerain's defense. Combine that with the fact that this is probably the least that they have returned on the defensive side of the ball since I can remember, I can't see them shutting down good offensive teams like Middletown, X, Moeller, and Wayne (i.e. these teams are probably good enough to score 3 touchdowns or more on Colerain).
Not to mention Bolden is 1-4 vs teams like X and Coombs was better than that. I'm not sure of Coombs record. I don't know when he started.
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Old 05-27-12, 07:21 AM
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Week 1

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The god thing is since alot of these teams will either be playing other teams in this top ten or some other tough teams in the showdown that after week 1 it will be alot clearer picture of where the teams rank.
I agree, tough to rank because of the overall strength of R-4.It should be a lot clearer after week 1.There are some HUGE match-ups that will go a long way towards determining which teams will be in in the top 8 spots.You look at the kids in this region that are early commits and it appears that there will be a LOT of very good teams in the region!
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Old 05-27-12, 12:01 PM
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Old 05-27-12, 12:06 PM
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Old 05-27-12, 12:21 PM
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Middletown loss 9 starters on defense.
Yeh middletown lost alot on defense, but luckily some of the players that will be replacing the starters did get some decent playing time. The middies will have the athletes to fill in for most spots. The defensive line is the one area i am worried about. Maybe everheart will move some players around to fill some holes. The offense will be fine, but we will have to see how well the defense can step up this year. The showdown game against X will be a great test for the defense and we can all see how well they will be able to replace the starters. I was not expecting middletown to win against X and would feel good if the defense was able to keep it close. If they get blown out, then there could be some concern. I believe the middies would go 8-2 or 7-3.
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