You got it right Kyle; Centerville is a really nice place to live and the people are very friendly. The poster who wrote that Centerville people are snobs has an axe to grind against Centerville.
Other1, thanks for your input. Our family moved from Centerville in December of 1967, just a week before the first Freshman basketball game (I was on the Freshman team). I was sad to leave, because of all the friends I had at Centerville HS (and Alter HS too). Then I went to high school in California and Washington state.
I went back and visited Centerville in 2007, 40 years later. Like you said, very friendly people in Centerville. And I was very impressed to see how Centerville has grown and prospered. First time seeing the great looking new high school and its fantastic football/track stadium. It made me wish I were that young now and going to CHS.
I saw a couple of Wayne/Centerville football games in the 1960s. This great rivalry was just budding back then. I think Miamisburg was our biggest rival back then. But now, the Wayne/Centerville rivalry rivals the best of all high school rivalries. Very passionate, yet I sense a deep respect between the players of each school for each other. Those with an "axe to grind", they're the ones who are long gone from high school, and detached from spirit which encompasses this great rivalry.
I think Reed is going to be a great pick up for the Warriors. Not sure if he will stay at QB. There is a lot of depth there for the Warriors. I could see Reed at DB or RB. I know some has said that Reed also plays basketball, does he run track ?
Why did you football team not opt out of their GWOC crossover game against Butler? Pretty pathetic that they didn't do it. Wayne has 800 boys and Butler has 400. What, didn't Bethel want to play Wayne too? How about Tecumseh, maybe Wayne should play them too.
Seems as if the GWOC Central teams sure like to get wins over the North teams. Must be nice to play schools half your size. Anyone care to explain why this game is being played?
Why did you football team not opt out of their GWOC crossover game against Butler? Pretty pathetic that they didn't do it. Wayne has 800 boys and Butler has 400. What, didn't Bethel want to play Wayne too? How about Tecumseh, maybe Wayne should play them too.
Seems as if the GWOC Central teams sure like to get wins over the North teams. Must be nice to play schools half your size. Anyone care to explain why this game is being played?
The GWOC crossover games help us fill up our schedule. It's not easy scheduling games for weeks 1-3, let alone weeks 4 and 5. And of course, Wayne's goal is to get to the playoffs every year, so you have to have a schedule that can get you there. If you don't like the crossover games, then take your case to the GWOC commissioner.
The GWOC crossover games help us fill up our schedule. It's not easy scheduling games for weeks 1-3, let alone weeks 4 and 5. And of course, Wayne's goal is to get to the playoffs every year, so you have to have a schedule that can get you there. If you don't like the crossover games, then take your case to the GWOC commissioner.
I see. So you realize that is clearly is not a game that is fair or that should be played. You just want to say that it is too hard to schedule another game therefore you are fine with playing it. Besides, you need some wins to make the playoffs, right?
Sounds great for Wayne. It is horrible for Butler and the GWOC North.
Anyone know how to get ahold of the GWOC commisioner. That guy is like a ghost.
I see. So you realize that is clearly is not a game that is fair or that should be played. You just want to say that it is too hard to schedule another game therefore you are fine with playing it. Besides, you need some wins to make the playoffs, right?
Sounds great for Wayne. It is horrible for Butler and the GWOC North.
Anyone know how to get ahold of the GWOC commisioner. That guy is like a ghost.
I wasn't aware that every regular season game had to be fair. Its hard to make every game fair in a conference that includes multiple divisions and school sizes. I know these crossover games don't favor the North and South schools, but it's not like these games are an automatic win for the Central. Wayne has lost crossover games before, and I'm sure other Central schools have too. It's just how the GWOC works. These games have been competitive and still should be somewhat competitive in the future. And I really don't see any changes being made by the GWOC anytime soon. I don't know what else to tell you. I know you don't like the current GWOC setup, but how do you change it, and what do you change it to?
Why did you football team not opt out of their GWOC crossover game against Butler? Pretty pathetic that they didn't do it. Wayne has 800 boys and Butler has 400. What, didn't Bethel want to play Wayne too? How about Tecumseh, maybe Wayne should play them too.
Seems as if the GWOC Central teams sure like to get wins over the North teams. Must be nice to play schools half your size. Anyone care to explain why this game is being played?
Simply, your fans will fill up our visitor section when we play, when we make the return trip to Vandalia we will easily fill up your visitor section. We are neighboring schools less than a few miles apart. Of course we should play the game just like we have played Butler in the past.
Bethel? Come on now, we would be playing ourselves since the northern part of Huber Heights goes to Bethel Schools. Tecumseh, would love to play them. Another neighboring school that would bring in a huge crowd. Plus, Tecumseh wins games and that would be some nice Harbins anyhow.
Are you trying to tell me that the Butler kids don't want a shot at Wayne? Trotwood has less kids than Butler and they can compete, Piqua competes, Troy competes, Sidney... well, OK, that got really ugly quick but Butler has/had quality teams in the past why wouldn't they want a shot over the next 4 years?
I wasn't aware that every regular season game had to be fair. Its hard to make every game fair in a conference that includes multiple divisions and school sizes. I know these crossover games don't favor the North and South schools, but it's not like these games are an automatic win for the Central. Wayne has lost crossover games before, and I'm sure other Central schools have too. It's just how the GWOC works. These games have been competitive and still should be somewhat competitive in the future. And I really don't see any changes being made by the GWOC anytime soon. I don't know what else to tell you. I know you don't like the current GWOC setup, but how do you change it, and what do you change it to?
Yeah, they are almost all automatic for the Central. Go back and check the records. The Central rarely loses a crossover.
No, it is not hard to make every game fair. Other teams have done it for years.
No doubt the GWOC is not a good confnece and definitely not good for the schools in the North.
Simply, your fans will fill up our visitor section when we play, when we make the return trip to Vandalia we will easily fill up your visitor section. We are neighboring schools less than a few miles apart. Of course we should play the game just like we have played Butler in the past.
Bethel? Come on now, we would be playing ourselves since the northern part of Huber Heights goes to Bethel Schools. Tecumseh, would love to play them. Another neighboring school that would bring in a huge crowd. Plus, Tecumseh wins games and that would be some nice Harbins anyhow.
Are you trying to tell me that the Butler kids don't want a shot at Wayne? Trotwood has less kids than Butler and they can compete, Piqua competes, Troy competes, Sidney... well, OK, that got really ugly quick but Butler has/had quality teams in the past why wouldn't they want a shot over the next 4 years?
As far as I know, you have not play Butler in a football game since the early 80's. So, I don't know where you get the "past".
This game is being played because the GWOC is a terrible conference, it benefits the Central, and because Wayne wants a sure win. It is that simple.
Lol fair this isn't youth soccer for crying out loud it's high school football. Fbguy you nitpick anytime a central teams play a north team yet your own teams drops down divisions to play. Didnt you guys play a d3 last year. The commissioner name is Eric Spahr he works at Stebbins he is not that hard to find
Lol fair this isn't youth soccer for crying out loud it's high school football. Fbguy you nitpick anytime a central teams play a north team yet your own teams drops down divisions to play. Didnt you guys play a d3 last year. The commissioner name is Eric Spahr he works at Stebbins he is not that hard to find
He doesn't return emails. He just tells you to talk to your school's AD. My school has played down. The last time I checked, we haven't been over .500 in some time and are nowhere near 1000 boys.
Cat, everytime I bring this up, you feel the need to jump on the Central bangwagon and come to the rescue. We all know it is because Springfield did the same thing when they started out.
All crossovers not out of conference. You guys go down out of conference so how can you bad mout any other team. Email butler,trotwood,Sidney,Greenville and whoever else ad. Or even email Minton he is a nice guy im sure he will return it
All crossovers not out of conference. You guys go down out of conference so how can you bad mout any other team. Email butler,trotwood,Sidney,Greenville and whoever else ad. Or even email Minton he is a nice guy im sure he will return it
Can someone translate this for me? Apparently I do not speak the same language as those in Springfield.
As far as I know, you have not play Butler in a football game since the early 80's. So, I don't know where you get the "past".
This game is being played because the GWOC is a terrible conference, it benefits the Central, and because Wayne wants a sure win. It is that simple.
Wayne has played Butler 4 times, that is in the past. Wayne is 4-0 against Butler.
I see you follow Miamisburg. You guys are D1 and scheduled 2 non-league D2 opponents last year beating both. I have no problem as one of them is a rivalry of yours who is now in your league and the 2nd is a close neighbor. As for Butler, you guys played them last year and got whipped up on 34-7. Why do you care that Wayne/Butler are playing? Wayne only has the liberty of scheduling 2 opponents. Week 1 is the crosstown, week 2 is Canton McKinley, and week 3 is our rivalry game against Trotwood, the defending state champion. We cannot help who our cross-over games are against but we will play them to honor the league just like Miamisburg does.
Wayne has played Butler 4 times, that is in the past. Wayne is 4-0 against Butler.
I see you follow Miamisburg. You guys are D1 and scheduled 2 non-league D2 opponents last year beating both. I have no problem as one of them is a rivalry of yours who is now in your league and the 2nd is a close neighbor. As for Butler, you guys played them last year and got whipped up on 34-7. Why do you care that Wayne/Butler are playing? Wayne only has the liberty of scheduling 2 opponents. Week 1 is the crosstown, week 2 is Canton McKinley, and week 3 is our rivalry game against Trotwood, the defending state champion. We cannot help who our cross-over games are against but we will play them to honor the league just like Miamisburg does.
Miamisburg has 600 boys. Wayne has 800. Not sure if you know that, but 200 boys is basically a school.
Also, Wayne is supposedly a program that has the goal of winning the state. Miamisburg is just hoping to get back to .500.
Wayne has played Butler 4 times and is 4-0 against them. Wow, clearly a great neighborhood rivalry there.
I care about what is right and wrong. You post on threads that aren't about Wayne. Stop avoiding the elephant in the room. You are one of the big boys of the Central and you guys get rich off of playing the small schools in the North.
Again, you do NOT have to play the crossovers. Don't tell me you are going to "honor" them.
Miamisburg has 600 boys. Wayne has 800. Not sure if you know that, but 200 boys is basically a school.
Also, Wayne is supposedly a program that has the goal of winning the state. Miamisburg is just hoping to get back to .500.
Wayne has played Butler 4 times and is 4-0 against them. Wow, clearly a great neighborhood rivalry there.
I care about what is right and wrong. You post on threads that aren't about Wayne. Stop avoiding the elephant in the room. You are one of the big boys of the Central and you guys get rich off of playing the small schools in the North.
Again, you do NOT have to play the crossovers. Don't tell me you are going to "honor" them.
I really don't see the difference between 600 and 800 boys in a school. The difference between Wayne and Miamisburg is that Wayne feeds and bleed football. There goal is to beat Centerville, win the GWOC, make the playoffs, win the region, and win state. Look what happens when Miamisburg plays Wayne in baseball... usually it is not pretty. I'm sure they take baseball more seriously at Miamisburg then they do at Wayne.
Wayne/Butler - I don't get the problem you have with this. Butler was a top notch D2 team that routinely made it to the playoffs. They have a great fan base and are literally right across the river from us. We have only played 4 times but we typically play in all other sports. I don't remember calling it a rivalry.
We play the schools from the North because we are practically in Miami County. I would love to play Springboro and Lebanon as well but we haven't reach that part of the rotation yet. I mentioned gate receipts before. Wayne/Butler will draw fans. Wayne also scheduled Trotwood. Wayne and Trotwood have become rivals that started at the Middle Schools and now has carried over in varsity. This was a no-brainer to keep it going. No other fan base in the GWOC brings more fans to Wayne than Trotwood does. Not even Centerville.
Crossover games: Sure, if both teams agree not to play each other then you can get out of them. What makes you so sure that Butler wants out. Again, Wayne will bring more fans to Vandalia then Vandalia will have on their own home side. It is a win situation for them in the $$$ department. It doesn't take much to make the playoffs in R8, Butler could afford a loss and still have ample opportunity to make the playoffs. Why would Wayne give up a home game in week 4 to play a road game against a team across the state?
I really don't see the difference between 600 and 800 boys in a school. The difference between Wayne and Miamisburg is that Wayne feeds and bleed football. There goal is to beat Centerville, win the GWOC, make the playoffs, win the region, and win state. Look what happens when Miamisburg plays Wayne in baseball... usually it is not pretty. I'm sure they take baseball more seriously at Miamisburg then they do at Wayne.
Wayne/Butler - I don't get the problem you have with this. Butler was a top notch D2 team that routinely made it to the playoffs. They have a great fan base and are literally right across the river from us. We have only played 4 times but we typically play in all other sports. I don't remember calling it a rivalry.
We play the schools from the North because we are practically in Miami County. I would love to play Springboro and Lebanon as well but we haven't reach that part of the rotation yet. I mentioned gate receipts before. Wayne/Butler will draw fans. Wayne also scheduled Trotwood. Wayne and Trotwood have become rivals that started at the Middle Schools and now has carried over in varsity. This was a no-brainer to keep it going. No other fan base in the GWOC brings more fans to Wayne than Trotwood does. Not even Centerville.
Crossover games: Sure, if both teams agree not to play each other then you can get out of them. What makes you so sure that Butler wants out. Again, Wayne will bring more fans to Vandalia then Vandalia will have on their own home side. It is a win situation for them in the $$$ department. It doesn't take much to make the playoffs in R8, Butler could afford a loss and still have ample opportunity to make the playoffs. Why would Wayne give up a home game in week 4 to play a road game against a team across the state?
I also want to state that Butler would whoop the crap out of Wayne in Baseball. Just Sayin'
I really don't see the difference between 600 and 800 boys in a school. The difference between Wayne and Miamisburg is that Wayne feeds and bleed football. There goal is to beat Centerville, win the GWOC, make the playoffs, win the region, and win state. Look what happens when Miamisburg plays Wayne in baseball... usually it is not pretty. I'm sure they take baseball more seriously at Miamisburg then they do at Wayne.
Wayne/Butler - I don't get the problem you have with this. Butler was a top notch D2 team that routinely made it to the playoffs. They have a great fan base and are literally right across the river from us. We have only played 4 times but we typically play in all other sports. I don't remember calling it a rivalry.
We play the schools from the North because we are practically in Miami County. I would love to play Springboro and Lebanon as well but we haven't reach that part of the rotation yet. I mentioned gate receipts before. Wayne/Butler will draw fans. Wayne also scheduled Trotwood. Wayne and Trotwood have become rivals that started at the Middle Schools and now has carried over in varsity. This was a no-brainer to keep it going. No other fan base in the GWOC brings more fans to Wayne than Trotwood does. Not even Centerville.
Crossover games: Sure, if both teams agree not to play each other then you can get out of them. What makes you so sure that Butler wants out. Again, Wayne will bring more fans to Vandalia then Vandalia will have on their own home side. It is a win situation for them in the $$$ department. It doesn't take much to make the playoffs in R8, Butler could afford a loss and still have ample opportunity to make the playoffs. Why would Wayne give up a home game in week 4 to play a road game against a team across the state?
There is a big difference between 600 and 800 boys, especially when you only have 400. You are correct, Miamisburg does not support football nearly as well as Wayne. I greatly respect Wayne and their fanbase for their support of their team.
Butler was a playoff team 10 years ago.
I would think that since Butler wanted out against Centerville, they would also want out against Wayne. Somehow, Butler, who hasn't won the North ever, has drawn the 2 toughest teams from the central in consecutive rotations.
Why doesn't Wayne opt out of the game and play a home game against a solid DI opponent?
There is a big difference between 600 and 800 boys, especially when you only have 400. You are correct, Miamisburg does not support football nearly as well as Wayne. I greatly respect Wayne and their fanbase for their support of their team.
Butler was a playoff team 10 years ago.
I would think that since Butler wanted out against Centerville, they would also want out against Wayne. Somehow, Butler, who hasn't won the North ever, has drawn the 2 toughest teams from the central in consecutive rotations.
Why doesn't Wayne opt out of the game and play a home game against a solid DI opponent?
Show me a D1 team willing to play at Wayne in week 4 that has an open date for week 4? Wayne tried to find a week 3 home game opponent last year and couldn't find one in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, or Michigan. Hilliard Davidson, Mentor, Solon just to name a few wanted home games as well.
I also want to state that Butler would whoop the crap out of Wayne in Baseball. Just Sayin'
I do believe Wayne did beat Butler with Cherry on the mound a few years ago. That was the first time in a long long time that they had defeated Butler. So, I guess a team with 400 boys can dominate a team with 800. I believe it comes down to commitment for the program and not the enrollment at the school. This is something that some cannot get!!!!
I am not sure how this affects football. Can you elaborate?
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I do believe Wayne did beat Butler with Cherry on the mound a few years ago. That was the first time in a long long time that they had defeated Butler. So, I guess a team with 400 boys can dominate a team with 800. I believe it comes down to commitment for the program and not the enrollment at the school. This is something that some cannot get!!!!
Show me a D1 team willing to play at Wayne in week 4 that has an open date for week 4? Wayne tried to find a week 3 home game opponent last year and couldn't find one in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, or Michigan. Hilliard Davidson, Mentor, Solon just to name a few wanted home games as well.
And if no DI teams wanted to play them, then how is it a good thing for Butler to have to play them? This isn't molecular chemistry here. The GWOC is a horrible league for the North teams (outside of Trotwood maybe). It only benefits the Central when it comes to football.
I do believe Wayne did beat Butler with Cherry on the mound a few years ago. That was the first time in a long long time that they had defeated Butler. So, I guess a team with 400 boys can dominate a team with 800. I believe it comes down to commitment for the program and not the enrollment at the school. This is something that some cannot get!!!!
If you guys do not see a difference between football and the other sports, then there is nothing more that can be discussed. I can't argue with stupid.
If enrollment means nothing, then why are their divisions in sports in Ohio? Also, it is now abudantly clear, according to your logic, that Wayne just does not have the same kind of commitment as St. X does.
Also, Wayne is supposedly a program that has the goal of winning the state. Miamisburg is just hoping to get back to .500.
LOL, the Miamisburg/Northmont scrimmage this year should be an epic battle of equally matched teams with the same lofty expectations. So get ready...the jet sweep and bubble screen will be comming at you....repeatedly.
And if no DI teams wanted to play them, then how is it a good thing for Butler to have to play them? This isn't molecular chemistry here. The GWOC is a horrible league for the North teams (outside of Trotwood maybe). It only benefits the Central when it comes to football.
Bring back the MML and the GMVC, I don't care but right now we have what we have. Does it benefit the Central? Yes it has but early on the North fared well in cross-over games, it was the South that took a beating.
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