Considering he has a State Championship under his belt shows he's hardly a mediocre coach. How many doe Hall or that coaching genius who is a "perfect fit" for Salem have?
it makes no difference hypercrits.you guys ran a good coach off in 1999 after he won mckinley a state title in his first year of coaching in 1998.you guys are never happy and will always have a miserable life.i hear that there is already grumbling from some of the KNOW IT ALLS about the m.o of filtz.like i say you guys will never be happy. dopamine have a good day
Considering he has a State Championship under his belt shows he's hardly a mediocre coach. How many doe Hall or that coaching genius who is a "perfect fit" for Salem have?
Lee Owens and Jack Rose had lower division titles. How did they do in D1?
LOL, out-smarted? More like the attorney pointed out how much money the district was going to lose if they went through with their plan. There are people who are saying that anything short of 15-0 is unacepptable...I've read it on message boards and Facebook multiple times.
They out- smarted you, and they weren't even trying. They weren't worried about repercussions to begin with. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone against Michele and the others to can the turd. They were never racist to begin with, and they proved it by hiring a white coach because they felt he was most qualified. They personally had nothing to lose in the event of a lawsuit- that was on the district, not them. But keep going with your conspiracy nonsense, if it makes you feel good.
Nobody I know thinks anything short of 15-0 is a failure. You must be off in your own little parallel universe again...
To many question marks with the dogs to say how good or bad they might be. I would say glenoak or Lake would have to be at the top of the list going into the season. I would think those two teams have less question marks then the rest of the fed. Its just a little to early to know how things will go throughout the season. But i would put Lake on top because of how they are coached and the talent they have coming back.
Since McKinley joined the Federal League in 2004......
Most Federal League Championships-Canton McKinley with 2 outright and 1 shared.
Federal League records:
McKinley 42-13
Hoover 31-24
GlenOak 29-26
Lake 25-30
Fitch(2004-2010) 23-26
Boardman 23-32
Perry 22-33
Jackson 22-33
Also, McKinley has the second most wins in Ohio history, seventh in the nation.
The Bulldogs have several state championships in football(the rest of the league combined has none). McKinley has national titles, and the list of lesser achievements that would, in themselves, be considered by many other schools as their crowning glory, is lengthy. Just keepin' it real peeps.
Also, McKinley has the second most wins in Ohio history, seventh in the nation.
The Bulldogs have several state championships in football(the rest of the league combined has none). McKinley has national titles, and the list of lesser achievements that would, in themselves, be considered by many other schools as their crowning glory, is lengthy. Just keepin' it real peeps.
The thread title is Fed predictions. Since comprehension isn't your strong suit I'll help you. This thread is for discussing the upcoming season of all Fed teams. Not for the continuing bickering over your internal issues. You have your own thread for that. Take it over there and try to stay on point here. Or is that too much to ask mighty McKinley?
And by the way, Lake has done a pretty good job of giving back as good as they've gotten from the Dawgs especially given the size difference. Keep that real Bob.
They out- smarted you, and they weren't even trying. They weren't worried about repercussions to begin with. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone against Michele and the others to can the turd. They were never racist to begin with, and they proved it by hiring a white coach because they felt he was most qualified. They personally had nothing to lose in the event of a lawsuit- that was on the district, not them. But keep going with your conspiracy nonsense, if it makes you feel good.
Nobody I know thinks anything short of 15-0 is a failure. You must be off in your own little parallel universe again...
LOL, you can't possible be that nieve. Out smarted me? I live in Cincinnati....I was not on their radar! Weren't worried about repercussions....only because of their ignorance....but their attorney and new super pointed out reasons for them to be worried, and then they were.
They were very racist....I take it you don't have a Facebook account? They proved nothing by hiring a white coach, and he was not the most qualified....he has four fricken years of experience. Just because you've crowned him as the best coach that McKinley has ever had before he's ever coached a game doesn't make it so. He was set up to fail....and, because of that, he's fighting an uphill battle from the get go. Count on it....if McKinley doesn't make the playoffs this year, which is possible, fans will be calling for him to be replaced.
"They personally had nothing to lose in the event of a lawsuit - that was on the district, not them." Ummm, hello....they are the faces of the district! Some of them had already been exposed for their inability to handle their personal finances....a lawsuit within their first few months of being on the BOE....they would have been ripped to shreds for demonstrating that they handle the district's finances the same way that they handle their personal finances. LOL, nothing to lose. It seems to me that you are the one who's being "outsmarted."
If you don't know anyone who's said that anything short of 15-0 is a failure, then you don't know many people.
We're the top program in the Fed by miles. We'll discuss/ argue when we want to. If you don't like it, piss off.
Hey Bob,
Saying McKinley is miles ahead of the rest of the league is dumb. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on you like a lot of the McKinley fans. After all, if it wasn't for Mama and people like you, we would be the ones wondering who our next quarterback would be. Bob - the truth sometimes hurts. If you don't like it, piss off.
Now I see why every time the Federal League Championship is mentioned, some McKinley fans (like Bulldogbob) say it doesn't mean anything. I remember a lot of McKinley fans thought that joining the league was below them and they would win it easily every year. I'm surprised to see that any Bulldog fans think winning the league twice and sharing it once, in eight years, makes them miles ahead of the rest of us. Since McKinley has joined the FED, Hoover (2), Fitch (2), GlenOak (1), have all won the FED outright, and Boardman, McKinley, and GlenOak shared it last year. Doesn't seem like anyone is miles ahead of anyone else.
Now I see why every time the Federal League Championship is mentioned, some McKinley fans (like Bulldogbob) say it doesn't mean anything. I remember a lot of McKinley fans thought that joining the league was below them and they would win it easily every year. I'm surprised to see that any Bulldog fans think winning the league twice and sharing it once, in eight years, makes them miles ahead of the rest of us. Since McKinley has joined the FED, Hoover (2), Fitch (2), GlenOak (1), have all won the FED outright, and Boardman, McKinley, and GlenOak shared it last year. Doesn't seem like anyone is miles ahead of anyone else.
That's because you have different criteria regarding programs. None of you even has one state championship, but somehow you are close. You have to look at the totality of a program (stadium and facilities, tradition, fan support and overall success. We are miles ahead of all of you in every one of these things. McKinley football teams are 42-13 in the Fed- by far the best as expected.
The thread title is Fed predictions. Since comprehension isn't your strong suit I'll help you. This thread is for discussing the upcoming season of all Fed teams. Not for the continuing bickering over your internal issues. You have your own thread for that. Take it over there and try to stay on point here. Or is that too much to ask mighty McKinley?
And by the way, Lake has done a pretty good job of giving back as good as they've gotten from the Dawgs especially given the size difference. Keep that real Bob.
Lake is a tough team, but has a losing record verses the Fed and McKinley, and please, none of this small school stuff, either. Massillon is only a little bigger than you, so you might want to try comparing yourself with them....how does that work out? Now YOU might wanna try keepin' it REALLY real for once.
LOL, you can't possible be that nieve. Out smarted me? I live in Cincinnati....I was not on their radar! Weren't worried about repercussions....only because of their ignorance....but their attorney and new super pointed out reasons for them to be worried, and then they were.
They were very racist....I take it you don't have a Facebook account? They proved nothing by hiring a white coach, and he was not the most qualified....he has four fricken years of experience. Just because you've crowned him as the best coach that McKinley has ever had before he's ever coached a game doesn't make it so. He was set up to fail....and, because of that, he's fighting an uphill battle from the get go. Count on it....if McKinley doesn't make the playoffs this year, which is possible, fans will be calling for him to be replaced.
"They personally had nothing to lose in the event of a lawsuit - that was on the district, not them." Ummm, hello....they are the faces of the district! Some of them had already been exposed for their inability to handle their personal finances....a lawsuit within their first few months of being on the BOE....they would have been ripped to shreds for demonstrating that they handle the district's finances the same way that they handle their personal finances. LOL, nothing to lose. It seems to me that you are the one who's being "outsmarted."
If you don't know anyone who's said that anything short of 15-0 is a failure, then you don't know many people.
I live in Canton, you live in Cincinnati, and you somehow know more about what people here think than I do? Now that is beyond dumb. The vast majority of McK fans are GLAD rj is gone. Look, you need to give this a rest because, with your every post, you're coming off more and more as bitter. Get over yourself. The three African -American board women out- smarted you and your entire RonJon cadre, and you are the ones who have demonstrated a propensity for racism. You really need to move on....for your own sanity's sake.
Now I see why every time the Federal League Championship is mentioned, some McKinley fans (like Bulldogbob) say it doesn't mean anything. I remember a lot of McKinley fans thought that joining the league was below them and they would win it easily every year. I'm surprised to see that any Bulldog fans think winning the league twice and sharing it once, in eight years, makes them miles ahead of the rest of us. Since McKinley has joined the FED, Hoover (2), Fitch (2), GlenOak (1), have all won the FED outright, and Boardman, McKinley, and GlenOak shared it last year. Doesn't seem like anyone is miles ahead of anyone else.
I live in Canton, you live in Cincinnati, and you somehow know more about what people here think than I do? Now that is beyond dumb. The vast majority of McK fans are GLAD rj is gone. Look, you need to give this a rest because, with your every post, you're coming off more and more as bitter. Get over yourself. The three African -American board women out- smarted you and your entire RonJon cadre, and you are the ones who have demonstrated a propensity for racism. You really need to move on....for your own sanity's sake.
"vast majority of McK fans"?.......Try vast majority of idiot fans.
Lake is a tough team, but has a losing record verses the Fed and McKinley, and please, none of this small school stuff, either. Massillon is only a little bigger than you, so you might want to try comparing yourself with them....how does that work out? Now YOU might wanna try keepin' it REALLY real for once.
Just so I understand this, Bob, because McK has a better record than Lake that translates to you showing a lack of courtesy and class here on the thread by not staying on topic. Which was my sole point you pounced on. Every McK thread I have read for the last 6 months has been rife with the back and forth argument about Coach Johnson. And it has continued in the other open threads you guys have now. Great. Fine. Knock yourselves out. Why is it asking too much for you guys to stay on topic here?
I'm not going to go any further with you over Lake vs. McK. I have been a McK fan since the 1980's and I still have close friends who have both played and coached there going back even that far. Honestly, it is very disappointing to me to see you guys continuing to go thru this in house claptrap almost every season. Mostly because I know it does nothing positive for the young men playing or the program as a whole. You guys haven't been the same program since Coach Cross left. Maybe your new coach can stand against the tide and set some things right again. For the sake of the players, I hope so. You probably wouldn't understand this but I am more proud of Lake's record against McK than I would be of Mckinley's against us.
Now I see why every time the Federal League Championship is mentioned, some McKinley fans (like Bulldogbob) say it doesn't mean anything. I remember a lot of McKinley fans thought that joining the league was below them and they would win it easily every year. I'm surprised to see that any Bulldog fans think winning the league twice and sharing it once, in eight years, makes them miles ahead of the rest of us. Since McKinley has joined the FED, Hoover (2), Fitch (2), GlenOak (1), have all won the FED outright, and Boardman, McKinley, and GlenOak shared it last year. Doesn't seem like anyone is miles ahead of anyone else.
It's just not winning the Fed title more than any other team in the Fed.It's McKinley's record against other Fed teams compared to all the other Fed's teams records against other Fed teams.You have to admit it,it isn't even close.
Plus McKinley's 3 State Championships to ZERO for all of the other Fed teams combined.
I could go on,but I'm just answering the question to BulldogBob.
Not just GlenOak,but every team in the Fed can't come close to McKinley's play-off record.
I'm not just talking about the 3 State Championships and 3 State Runner-ups.
But the play-off record of 34-17 that McKinley has.No team in the Fed can come close.
Since the 90s, McKinley hasn't come close to McKinley's playoff record. Prior to 2000, McKinley was 21-9 (70% winning rate). Since then they've been 13-8....62% winning rate, despite the advantage of the expansion in 1999 to eight teams qualifying (i.e. easier first round games).
McKinley's playoff record as a Fed team is 12-7, with one state-runner up and no state titles. Still better than the other Fed teams, but not exactly bragging material. After all, if McKinley was so much better than the other Fed teams, they wouldn't be on their third coach since joining the Fed just eight years ago.
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Originally Posted by BulldogBob
I live in Canton, you live in Cincinnati, and you somehow know more about what people here think than I do? Now that is beyond dumb.
Where did I say anything about the people in Canton let alone suggest that I know more than people living there? That said, it really isn't relevant because not all McKinley fans live in Canton and not all people in Canton are McKinley fans! By the way, you don't know the vast majority of McKinley fans. As such, how do you know how they feel or what they think?
Bob - You have one glaring fault. Have you ever heard the word respect? The folks you argue with all have respect for McKinley, but you show very little to them. FED members are proud and will stand up for their programs when challenged. You're running your mouth like you haven't lost a Federal League game in years. Last season, we were favored to beat you and we did, as of right now we would probably be favored again. I'm not saying we are miles ahead of you, but it does make your statement of superiority look stupid. You've made yourself the poster boy for Mama, the BSG, the BOE, and the new Coach. You better get a grip on yourself Bobby - because this could be a very long season for you.
Now YOU might wanna try keepin' it REALLY real for once. 
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