LOL........... well I think we can now see the truth. Wayne fans can only justify this game because of a hopefully big "gate" and an easy win. Pretty sad if you ask me.
And if you try to point this out to them, they will just taunt and attack you.
That is what people do when they know they are wrong.
LOL........... well I think we can now see the truth. Wayne fans can only justify this game because of a hopefully big "gate" and an easy win. Pretty sad if you ask me.
And if you try to point this out to them, they will just taunt and attack you.
That is what people do when they know they are wrong.
lol, seriously man, the GWOC schedule has us playing a league game against Butler. Show me proof that Butler wants out of this game? Sure, we would much rather play Springboro or Lebanon in a cross over game but it is what it is. How hard it it to understand that Wayne wants home games. I know how hard it is to schedule teams especially because the teams available are hundreds of miles away and they want to play at home. Butler is a great game that hopefully gives us some Harbins. Hopefully Butler can and will be competitive and I am sure they are fired up about this game.
I am a "true" Butler fan even though FBGuy disagrees and I have no problem with this game. Is Wayne going to hammer Butler this year and next...YES. But you know what this game has been a long time coming and I am excited to finally see these neighboring towns play in football. I have never been to a Wayne game in my life so I am looking forward to seeing Butler on their turf and likewise with seeing Wayne come to Vandalia next year. I would have been bummed out if this game had been swapped for another opponent. And all this coming from A BUTLER FAN!
I am a "true" Butler fan even though FBGuy disagrees and I have no problem with this game. Is Wayne going to hammer Butler this year and next...YES. But you know what this game has been a long time coming and I am excited to finally see these neighboring towns play in football. I have never been to a Wayne game in my life so I am looking forward to seeing Butler on their turf and likewise with seeing Wayne come to Vandalia next year. I would have been bummed out if this game had been swapped for another opponent. And all this coming from A BUTLER FAN!
Don't worry we can't explain FBGuy. I guess he has been like this the whole time, we just couldn't tell from the few dumb Northmont posters.
lol, seriously man, the GWOC schedule has us playing a league game against Butler. Show me proof that Butler wants out of this game? Sure, we would much rather play Springboro or Lebanon in a cross over game but it is what it is. How hard it it to understand that Wayne wants home games. I know how hard it is to schedule teams especially because the teams available are hundreds of miles away and they want to play at home. Butler is a great game that hopefully gives us some Harbins. Hopefully Butler can and will be competitive and I am sure they are fired up about this game.
I don't know for sure if they want out, but seeing as they opted out against Centerville, I feel confident that they would want out against Wayne. Sidney wanted out against Northmont, but the Bolts refused too.
Butler is not a great game. Trotwood is the class of DII and have only beaten Wayne one time in their recent rivalry. What chance does Butler have?
I am a "true" Butler fan even though FBGuy disagrees and I have no problem with this game. Is Wayne going to hammer Butler this year and next...YES. But you know what this game has been a long time coming and I am excited to finally see these neighboring towns play in football. I have never been to a Wayne game in my life so I am looking forward to seeing Butler on their turf and likewise with seeing Wayne come to Vandalia next year. I would have been bummed out if this game had been swapped for another opponent. And all this coming from A BUTLER FAN!
Fans should be able to name some of their players. You haven't been able to do that.
Teams getting "hammered" isn't much fun. It definitely isn't something that is a "long time coming".
If we go by this logic, then Wayne should also play Bethel and Tecumseh. I have already made that point though.
Wayne is a top level big school program in Ohio. They produce major talent and compete for state titles in DI. They have 800 boys in their school and are only growing. They should be playing other schools like themselves. They should not be playing schools half their size just because they are neighbors.
I don't know for sure if they want out, but seeing as they opted out against Centerville, I feel confident that they would want out against Wayne. Sidney wanted out against Northmont, but the Bolts refused too.
Butler is not a great game. Trotwood is the class of DII and have only beaten Wayne one time in their recent rivalry. What chance does Butler have?
Centerville does not travel well.... the gate wouldn't be that great. No one gave Piqua a shot against Wayne either, it was 21-0 Wayne at half and guess what. The final was Piqua 24 Wayne 21. It does and can happen.
Fans should be able to name some of their players. You haven't been able to do that.
Teams getting "hammered" isn't much fun. It definitely isn't something that is a "long time coming".
If we go by this logic, then Wayne should also play Bethel and Tecumseh. I have already made that point though.
Wayne is a top level big school program in Ohio. They produce major talent and compete for state titles in DI. They have 800 boys in their school and are only growing. They should be playing other schools like themselves. They should not be playing schools half their size just because they are neighbors.
They are playing because they are both in the same league... If the GMVC and the MML did not fold you would not see this match-up. Bethel and Tecumseh are not in the GWOC so you will not see Wayne play them. Name one local team that Wayne has played that is not in the GWOC?
Somebody say soemthing about Thunderbot? I find it funny thst for people to dont like me they sure does love to talk about me. oh well glad i got things to do and some of you dont. anywho me and dad didnt even go to no games last year cause snider pretty much made are team suck all year and dad said he dont think he ever going back until they fire him. He say that though and he will be back i bet before it even start. he is a hoot. i aint trying to hyjack nobodys thread just seen my name and figured i'd tell you guy that i back and will prolly talk some this year if gang green end up doin good.
Fans should be able to name some of their players. You haven't been able to do that.
Teams getting "hammered" isn't much fun. It definitely isn't something that is a "long time coming".
If we go by this logic, then Wayne should also play Bethel and Tecumseh. I have already made that point though.
Wayne is a top level big school program in Ohio. They produce major talent and compete for state titles in DI. They have 800 boys in their school and are only growing. They should be playing other schools like themselves. They should not be playing schools half their size just because they are neighbors.
Actually over the past 3 years, overall enrollment at Wayne has dropped by almost 100. So no the school is not growing, they are staying around the same if not decreasing a little. All the growth in the city is north of I70, and those homes are in the Bethel School District, so they go to Bethel High, not Wayne
Centerville does not travel well.... the gate wouldn't be that great. No one gave Piqua a shot against Wayne either, it was 21-0 Wayne at half and guess what. The final was Piqua 24 Wayne 21. It does and can happen.
They are playing because they are both in the same league... If the GMVC and the MML did not fold you would not see this match-up. Bethel and Tecumseh are not in the GWOC so you will not see Wayne play them. Name one local team that Wayne has played that is not in the GWOC?
I sm not sure how many times this needs to be said. They could have opted out. Centerville did last year and played St. Iggy. They could have done it and chose not to.
Actually over the past 3 years, overall enrollment at Wayne has dropped by almost 100. So no the school is not growing, they are staying around the same if not decreasing a little. All the growth in the city is north of I70, and those homes are in the Bethel School District, so they go to Bethel High, not Wayne
Who cares, they can still only have 11 guys on the field at one time. If they don't like it, which I haven't heard any Butler fans complaining about it, they they are free to switch leagues.
If they really don't want to play the game, again haven't heard anyone other than you complain about it, they could just not show up and forfeit.
Baseball aside, Butler has not shown the ability to compete in the other major boys sports for a number of years. Because of this, I would love to see Butler move to the SWBL or CBC. To me, 8-2, 9-1, 10-0 and a playoff berth every year would be better than the usual 3-7 or 4-6. But that's just me.
Since Butler has no intention on ever moving down, I am happy to at least see them play Wayne. The Wayne/Butler rivalry has always been spirited and entertaining in baseball and basketball, so naturally while I don't see it being the most competitive game in the world, I do still think it will be fun. (Couldn't say the same for a Butler-Centerville matchup, just no ties or connection) On the flip side, I would welcome a similar game against Northridge for the very same reason.
In short this isn't a game either team chose, but clearly not a game either team was itching to drop either. In non-league games against local teams there will always be inequality in size. Until Butler leaves the GWOC they will continue to be on the short end of that stick.
And you never know....maybe Butler will shock the world!!
Baseball aside, Butler has not shown the ability to compete in the other major boys sports for a number of years. Because of this, I would love to see Butler move to the SWBL or CBC. To me, 8-2, 9-1, 10-0 and a playoff berth every year would be better than the usual 3-7 or 4-6. But that's just me.
Since Butler has no intention on ever moving down, I am happy to at least see them play Wayne. The Wayne/Butler rivalry has always been spirited and entertaining in baseball and basketball, so naturally while I don't see it being the most competitive game in the world, I do still think it will be fun. (Couldn't say the same for a Butler-Centerville matchup, just no ties or connection) On the flip side, I would welcome a similar game against Northridge for the very same reason.
In short this isn't a game either team chose, but clearly not a game either team was itching to drop either. In non-league games against local teams there will always be inequality in size. Until Butler leaves the GWOC they will continue to be on the short end of that stick.
And you never know....maybe Butler will shock the world!!
Exactly, any thing can happen.
Also, the Vandalia-Butler district still has space to grow, so you never know what the future will hold
See, even the best DII program in the area can only muster up one win against a great program like Wayne.
I think you do not understand me. We are not talking about just some DI team. Miamisburg is DI. However, I don't see an issue with them playing Butler, or Sidney, or Piqua.
Wayne is a state known program. They have everything one could want in a program. They have good coaches, great facilities, and trmendous talent. They are a constant fixture in the playoffs and have made it to the state title game in DI. They aren't just your average DI football program.
Because of who, and what, Wayne is, this game should not be played. The North teams can play most of the area DI teams, just not the Central teams.
No, nothing personal against Wayne at all. You just keep making stupid posts and I keep proving you wrong. It is that simple.
I have no dog in this fight. Dont really care what any of these teams do during there respective seasons. However I cant help myself from laughing everytime this guy thinks he is proving someone wrong with "facts". From an outside opinion your not only losing this argument your also making yourself look more and more clueless and ignorant as you post. If Wayne plays a school with 400 less boys like Butler than they might as well play a school like Bethel. Why? Whats that prove to anyone when you say that? Very pointless and shows no logic which is something you have preached about yourself over and over again on these threads. Pointless statements show no logic. I dont see you sticking up for Wayne when they have to play Centerville, the differential in enrollment between Wayne and Butler and Wayne and Centerville is not much. You sound very hypocritical, and to everyone reading this you couldnt look more wrong.
I have no dog in this fight. Dont really care what any of these teams do during there respective seasons. However I cant help myself from laughing everytime this guy thinks he is proving someone wrong with "facts". From an outside opinion your not only losing this argument your also making yourself look more and more clueless and ignorant as you post. If Wayne plays a school with 400 less boys like Butler than they might as well play a school like Bethel. Why? Whats that prove to anyone when you say that? Very pointless and shows no logic which is something you have preached about yourself over and over again on these threads. Pointless statements show no logic. I dont see you sticking up for Wayne when they have to play Centerville, the differential in enrollment between Wayne and Butler and Wayne and Centerville is not much. You sound very hypocritical, and to everyone reading this you couldnt look more wrong.
Wayne is a top level big school program in Ohio. They produce major talent and compete for state titles in DI. They have 800 boys in their school and are only growing. They should be playing other schools like themselves. They should not be playing schools half their size just because they are neighbors.
Your whole arguement is a matter of opinion. In my opinion it makes a lot of sense for Wayne to play them, outside of the fact that they are in the same league. Wayne should play this game because it's at home and because it's winnable. vamps has brought up time and again how Wayne should (and does) schedule, which is to get into the playoffs. Don't play the GCLS, don't play in a big events such as the Showdown where they get screwed in a matchup vs a Colerain. Instead schedule one marquee game that is high risk/high reward and then a bunch of other games that they know they can win, then round it out with the league games which are tough as it is against Northmont (though not recently) and Centerville, etc.
If anyone should not want to play this game it's Butler, but there isn't much whining from their camp.
I have no dog in this fight. Dont really care what any of these teams do during there respective seasons. However I cant help myself from laughing everytime this guy thinks he is proving someone wrong with "facts". From an outside opinion your not only losing this argument your also making yourself look more and more clueless and ignorant as you post. If Wayne plays a school with 400 less boys like Butler than they might as well play a school like Bethel. Why? Whats that prove to anyone when you say that? Very pointless and shows no logic which is something you have preached about yourself over and over again on these threads. Pointless statements show no logic. I dont see you sticking up for Wayne when they have to play Centerville, the differential in enrollment between Wayne and Butler and Wayne and Centerville is not much. You sound very hypocritical, and to everyone reading this you couldnt look more wrong.
While I think you really are missing most of the points and have things mixed up, at least you presented it in a good way.
Why did I use the example of Bethel? Somehow you missed the point on that and are relating it to enrollment. I brought up Bethel because a Wayne fan said they should play Butler because it is a "neighboring" rival. Well, if we go by that logic, then I am saying Wayne should also play Tecumseh and Bethel. See? I have to say, you make me laugh in that you somehow completely missed that point. I laid it out about as simple as could be done. It is full of logic and bad logic. However, the origin of that logic did not come from me, which you missed, but from a Wayne fan. Work on your reading comprehension a little before you call me out on that stuff.
As for being hypocrticial, I have no idea what you are talking about. Wayne is TWO TIMES the size of Butler. Wayne is a state powerhouse in football. Wayne puts out top college recruits year in and year out. Wayne is the type of program that legitimately aims for a state title. The GWOC North teams, especially Butler, Sidney, and now even Greenville, are nowhere near that. Of late, Piqua has been down too, especially with the GWOC allignment as it is.
To take those things and try and apply them to the Wayne vs Centerville match is flat out ignorant on your part. Is Centerville bigger that Wayne? Yes, they are. Are they two times bigger? No, not at all. Are the two programs on different levels? Not at all as both are state recognized programs who aim to win state titles in DI. Applying this logic on your part is just stupid and ignorant. If you actually want to say that Butler vs Wayne is the same as Wayne vs Centerville, then you are a fool and need to stop posting.
Your whole arguement is a matter of opinion. In my opinion it makes a lot of sense for Wayne to play them, outside of the fact that they are in the same league. Wayne should play this game because it's at home and because it's winnable. vamps has brought up time and again how Wayne should (and does) schedule, which is to get into the playoffs. Don't play the GCLS, don't play in a big events such as the Showdown where they get screwed in a matchup vs a Colerain. Instead schedule one marquee game that is high risk/high reward and then a bunch of other games that they know they can win, then round it out with the league games which are tough as it is against Northmont (though not recently) and Centerville, etc.
If anyone should not want to play this game it's Butler, but there isn't much whining from their camp.
Of course it makes sense for Wayne. Does it make sense for Butler?
As for the Butler camp, they don't even know who their players are on the thread about their team.
Wrong is wrong and this game is stupid and should not be played. Wayne could have taken the high road but chose not to.
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