At this time, there will be many high school graduating student-athletes whom will come to realize the opportunity to continue playing football may be waning. This does not have to occur.
The Xavier University club football program is designed to serve students whom have an interest in continuing to play football after they graduate high school without sacrificing the exceptional educational opportunities provided by our prestigious university. Xavier University is accepting applications from high school graduating students through May 1, 2012.
The Musketeers football program is a member of the National Club Football Association, and participates in the Midwest Club Football Conference which includes teams from Ohio State, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, University of Michigan-Flint, Miami(OH), and Wright State.Xavier University will also play NCAA D3/NAIA JV teams, on occasion. The first NCFA national championship will be held in November, 2012.
While not associated with the NCAA, all games are played under NCAA rules. NCFA rules permits teams to conduct no more than four practices per week during the season.
The following links are of 2011 Xavier University football:
As the videos show, this is a competitive brand of football involving what is best described as REAL student-athletes. We have players from several states, including Ohio, Indiana, Florida, Kentucky, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
There are no scholarships, grants-in-aid, etc. directly related to the football program. However, in 2010, 100% of all Xavier University freshmen received financial aid or scholarships. The main idea of our club program is to field a strongly competitive team, while allowing for the necessary time to successfully complete students' degree programs. Xavier University ranked #1 in graduation rate, #1 in freshmen retention and #6 in best undergraduate teaching (2010 US News and World ranking of Midwest colleges and universities). (The Class of 2015 profile: 1,155 students, Middle 50% GPA = 3.21-3.87, Middle 50% SAT = 1070-1260, Middle 50% ACT = 23-28. 48% are out-of-state students.) 100% of students studying computer science, nursing, and accountancy have a job when they graduate. Xavier offers 85 majors and 54 minors.
We want to hear from the high school football player whom has the grades to attend our university, but due to his love for the game, may be considering other schools for the purpose of extending his playing career. Why not have the best of educational opportunity and still play competitive football by attending Xavier University?
Please relay this information to any players whom you believe would consider this opportunity. Provide them this link to get started:
He led the program since its inception. No longer with the program as he is pursuing his teaching career at a local school. No bigger supporter tham Tom.
See him at some basketball games sporting a club football jacket with MCFC champion logos from 2007 and 2008.
Re: Wright State:
The Raiders' club team is younger than X's but I have seen them play a couple times including last fall when X played up there for WSU's homecoming week. A very good program.
I have followed club football at XU from day one. Entertaining and competitive football played by kids who just love the game. Very fun to watch and very accessible at a great price!!
Is there an age limit? Can an olg guy who is in good shape play?
Is "olg" a contraction of old and ugly? Just kidding.
My son was a founder and president of the OSU team. Fun football to watch. High level for what it is. My nephew was the QB for WSU, so there was a family rivalry. OSU had no coaches (my son called the D from the field) and a student "coach" called the offense. OSU gives each of their over 3000 clubs $300 and the team has to fundraise the rest. WSU and Miami give more funding to their teams and pay their coaches (albeit a small amount). WSU was very good in their first 2 years but slipped last year. I believe they played too many games and lost players to injury. OSU has trouble scheduling saturday games since the club would rather be at The Shoe. They tried to schedule Sunday games due to this. I'm hoping my youngest will want to play club at OSU as well.
Is "olg" a contraction of old and ugly? Just kidding.My son was a founder and president of the OSU team. Fun football to watch. High level for what it is. My nephew was the QB for WSU, so there was a family rivalry. OSU had no coaches (my son called the D from the field) and a student "coach" called the offense. OSU gives each of their over 3000 clubs $300 and the team has to fundraise the rest. WSU and Miami give more funding to their teams and pay their coaches (albeit a small amount). WSU was very good in their first 2 years but slipped last year. I believe they played too many games and lost players to injury. OSU has trouble scheduling saturday games since the club would rather be at The Shoe. They tried to schedule Sunday games due to this. I'm hoping my youngest will want to play club at OSU as well.
In the past, X has had several MBA students play including Chris Greenwood who QB'd the club team for 4 years as he worked part-time on his MBA and worked full-time for the Dept. of Labor. He was injured and did not complete his 4th season when he was, I believe, 28 years old. Greenwood QB'd at Hanover College during his undergrad years.
Another part-time MBA student, Dan Piening, played football at Moeller and LB'd at Dartmouth. At the age of 29, as he worked full-time for Rumpke, he learned of the club team and he played one year and at 6'4, 220 lbs., did one heck of a job.
Both can be seen on You-Tube coverage of X's first win at Miami in 2007. Greenwood was the QB (#3) and Piening (#17). Both were very good players and played very competitively. The clip shows Greenwood running some 80 yards for a would-be touchdown. But he was ruled out near the ten-yard line; and next connected on a nice pass to yet another MBA student, Craig Holman (#89) who made a diving catch for a touchdown.
The footage shows Piening playing on defense making several key plays. The team also featured another MBA student, LB Matt Dooley(#12). Dooley helped coach the club team its first year when he was a senior at XU. The following year, Dooley (who played at Cincinnati St. X High School) decided to play as a grad student; and the Miami game video shows him intercepting a late Miami pass to help seal the X win.
It helped that all four were in excellent physical condition; and like the other players, they paid the club fee just for a chance to continue to play for the love of the game and to play it at a very competitive level. Watch the video and see for yourself:
In the past, X has had several MBA students play including Chris Greenwood who QB'd the club team for 4 years as he worked part-time on his MBA and worked full-time for the Dept. of Labor. He was injured and did not complete his 4th season when he was, I believe, 28 years old. Greenwood QB'd at Hanover College during his undergrad years.
Another part-time MBA student, Dan Piening, played football at Moeller and LB'd at Dartmouth. At the age of 29, as he worked full-time for Rumpke, he learned of the club team and he played one year and at 6'4, 220 lbs., did one heck of a job.
Both can be seen on You-Tube coverage of X's first win at Miami in 2007. Greenwood was the QB (#3) and Piening (#17). Both were very good players and played very competitively. The clip shows Greenwood running some 80 yards for a would-be touchdown. But he was ruled out near the ten-yard line; and next connected on a nice pass to yet another MBA student, Craig Holman (#89) who made a diving catch for a touchdown.
The footage shows Piening playing on defense making several key plays. The team also featured another MBA student, LB Matt Dooley(#12). Dooley helped coach the club team its first year when he was a senior at XU. The following year, Dooley (who played at Cincinnati St. X High School) decided to play as a grad student; and the Miami game video shows him intercepting a late Miami pass to help seal the X win.
It helped that all four were in excellent physical condition; and like the other players, they paid the club fee just for a chance to continue to play for the love of the game and to play it at a very competitive level. Watch the video and see for yourself:
I love this thread. It reminds me of my days at Wright State.
I remember attending the first meeting that established the club, I remember playing the first Spring game at Wayne High School (before the new press box/stands, too.) I also remember the home games at Bellbrook High School and broadcasting the away games at Ohio State and Roger Bacon High School for the contest against Xavier.
It was nice going to a game this year and seeing the Raiders football team on their own campus, right next to Alumni Field.
It was a great experience being apart of the organization!
The powers that be @ XU need to bring football back, with all the success basketball has brought to the university, football would do just as well.
I don't think it will ever happen for the same reason Wright State will never see a team. In order to provide 85 scholarships, they would also have to provide 85 full scholarship equivalents to women's sports as well. It would cost Xavier about 5.5 million per year to fund these scholarships. Men's sports have already been cut to allow for Title IX. WSU and X would then have to build stadiums and draw fans to fill them. Xavier might be able to draw some fans but WSU is largely commuter and would have problems filling a stadium.
FYI - The University of Dayton, like Xavier, is a member of the Atlantic 10 in basketball but competes as a non-scholarship Division 1 Football Championship Series (FCS) program in the Pioneer League. Butler, a few years removed from the Final Four, also plays non-scholarship football in the Pioneer League and in 2011 had an overall football budget of under $700,000.
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FYI - The University of Dayton, like Xavier, is a member of the Atlantic 10 in basketball but competes as a non-scholarship Division 1 Football Championship Series (FCS) program in the Pioneer League. Butler, a few years removed from the Final Four, also plays non-scholarship football in the Pioneer League and in 2011 had an overall football budget of under $700,000.
My son was recruited by UD and Butler and decided on OSU to save money. Ironically, he will be starting grad school at UD this fall. X or WSU would have to find a 1-AA non-scholarship league to play. Without adding a lot of travel expenses, the Pioneer League would be the only choice and I believe it already has ten teams. Butler's previous AD let the football program fall apart. Their current AD is helping to rebuild Butler's program which has improved considerably in the last four years.
Arguably, non-scholarship football does not impact it since no scholarship monies are involved. Additionally, Title IX has three prongs and it is more about athletic opportunites. I have seen various opinions tha indicate that Title IX is not impacted including from schools that have added football. Regardless, if Pioneer Football League schools can accomodate Title IX, Xavier could do it.
He led the program since its inception. No longer with the program as he is pursuing his teaching career at a local school. No bigger supporter tham Tom.
See him at some basketball games sporting a club football jacket with MCFC champion logos from 2007 and 2008.
Re: Wright State:
The Raiders' club team is younger than X's but I have seen them play a couple times including last fall when X played up there for WSU's homecoming week. A very good program.
I have followed club football at XU from day one. Entertaining and competitive football played by kids who just love the game. Very fun to watch and very accessible at a great price!!
He doesn't teach here anymore. His health became an issue and he felt he was doing the students a great diservice by missing school so often so he resigned from his position. I always remember him and his XU Football Club jacket. Good guy!
Tom Powers was selflessly devoted to the club team. Really a good guy who spent countless hours getting the program off the ground. He was really proud of the 2007 and 2008 MCFC titles. I will try to check up with him and see what is going on. Last I knew, he was still teaching at a local charter school.
Club Football is an excellent opportunity for students to continue their playing career without necessarily making the commitment they would with being on scholarship and they are still able to play at a very high level.
In addition to Xavier and Wright State, Miami University has an excellent Club Football team. They have a lot of local talent (the club president is a Kings grad) and have been very successful as of late winning their conference last year and being ranked at the top nationally in multiple polls. Here is a link to their website below:
I have seen X play Miami's team a few times in Cincinnati and Oxford. Drive to Oxford is always nice and games at Yaeger Stadium have been fun to watch. The Miami team is a very good squad. Catching a slice of pizza at Bruno's in the business district after the game is always worthwhile as well.
Arguably, non-scholarship football does not impact it since no scholarship monies are involved. Additionally, Title IX has three prongs and it is more about athletic opportunites. I have seen various opinions tha indicate that Title IX is not impacted including from schools that have added football. Regardless, if Pioneer Football League schools can accomodate Title IX, Xavier could do it.
Just another little caveat to add to your Title IX discussion. If Xavier was to have a Pioneer Football League type football program then XU would also have to add a woman's sport and that is being seriously discussed by some at XU. The current coach is serious about making the club team successful and he's been pleasantly surprised by all the interests it has been generating since he's been more active with recruiting kids to come play. This will be his first full year with the program and he's already making great strides in increasing the number and the quality of the players that will be on the 2012 club team.
I have met coach McCormick and his staff. Enthusiastic group with a passion for football. I'd love to see X in the PFL. I would agree that Title IX considerations loom over this; however, I think an argument can be made and it apparently it has been made successfully that non-scholarship football does not mandate the quid pro quo that scholarship football does. In any event, even from a political standpoint, I am sure that the addition of another woman's sport would be discussed.
Non-scholarship football could exist at Xavier and have no detrimental impact on the basketball program. Butler's football program does not hurt the Bulldogs' basketball program. Dayton fields a good basketball program while also fielding a non-scholarship program. Georgetown, D.C. fields a non-scholarship team that once existed only as a club program; and the Hoya's basketball team does well.
Obviously, Xavier would want to preserve its basketball funding but structuring a football program with new revenue sources is a possibility. I don't see this as an "either/or" situation that requires mutual exclusivity.
As a XU alum, I would love to see Xavier play football in the Pioneer Football League with its emphasis on student-athletes.
Xavier basketball is king on Victory Parkway but football would enliven the fall seasons on campus. Nothing fancy or big; just good fun competitve football being played for the love of the game.
As a XU alum, I would love to see Xavier play football in the Pioneer Football League with its emphasis on student-athletes.
The Pioneer leaque already has 10 members, so joining would probably be impossible unless they split into divisions. Other Div !A leagues would involve even more travel.
I hold two degrees from Xavier and grew up going to Xavier football games as a kid. Saw some great athletes play there like Danny Abramowicz who went on to play with the Saints and the 49ers as well as Carroll Williams. Games at Corcoran Field (Xavier Stadium) hold special memories. Heck, I even tried to walk on the spring before the final 1973 season. There is definitely a void at X in the fall; and PFL football would fill that void nicely. Doesn't have to be big and fancy.
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