Stiv.......one can only imagine your theories on why PC and PN occasionally have larger lineman and backers than some of their opponets. This will not be the case this year which will completely deflate you and your lil' buddy Lambeaus theories....good try though. One thing for sure is a successful program encourages competition among its own ranks. Guys are fighting for those open "O" and "D" line spots. PC graduated way too many top players to even resemble last years bunch but I'm sure the coaches will put something together to remain competitive in the OCC and beyond. I did hear of a very promising 6'4 freshman QB/TE who may make a little noise this year. Watch for Basylega on defense (LB) that kid can bring it. Yes,the PN vs PC game this year should be nasty.
Yep.... it's going to be a very interesting first two weeks to see where PC is at. Colerain is always huge up front good luck!
Im a big fan of HD and all the success they have had as a public school, but I cant for the life of me figure out why in the world would they schedule Beavercreek one of the bottom dwellers of the GWOC (They just got there first win against their division last season) but wouldnt play Centerville when they had the chance.
I hear you Buck...might have to go around them instead of through them......
That isnt easy either lol. Middletown's success last year against them was in the air which is unusual since middletow mostly runs the triple option but the middies didnt have much success running against them last year.
I'll keep my theories to myself but that's bene the case the last few years, not for eternity, PC and PN have had the most physically large lines strength and PC in particular has had good size backers who can run a bit as wel as excellant defensive backs some with good size as well { Foster }
Is the Freshman propsect one of those turning 16 years old later this year Frosh or a typical 14-15 year old ? kids entering High School are getting older and older it seems. You see some of these kids peaking physically as Soph's in some cases and have to wonder just how old they were when they started High School sometimes .
Not a knock on PC or any other school it's prevelant in society in general . Size can cyclical , although some places seem to grow them bigger, back in 2006 adn 2007 i REMEMBER pc BEING A BIT SMALLISH UP FRONT , so it's not as if this is written in stone, Coffman was pretty big for a few years up front , not so much the last few years .
GREG B at backer for PC is a baller, kid is tough and makes plays , definatley someone offenses definitely have to account for .
should be some parity this year , anyone have any idea who is the prohibitive favorites?? I can't see anyone that will be that dominant
Coffman used to be huge in the late 1990's. It started with Dave Kadela (6'6+), Jim Bokach, Ike Ndukwe (300+), Adam Olds, and Steve Winner (6'7). Throw in the likes of Ryan Lucas, Aaron Burger, Lars Seigfried, Eric Fritz, Ryan Nolan and Brian Close you are looking at lines of 240+. Scioto's Norden, Richardson, Huddle, and Crum were no tiny athletes either. It definitely runs in cycles as stated above.
Im a big fan of HD and all the success they have had as a public school, but I cant for the life of me figure out why in the world would they schedule Beavercreek one of the bottom dwellers of the GWOC (They just got there first win against their division last season) but wouldnt play Centerville when they had the chance.
I know as a casual HS fan it's difficult to understand. HD doesn't "always" have noticeable talent to battle top tier teams outta the gates. Centerville is usually loaded with (big lineman) D-1 and D-2 level talent every year. Whites system is known to start slow, sometimes it takes 4-5 games to see strengths/weaknesses. It can be tough early on, especially when the bulk of your team isn't collegiate level talent. The coaches build them up game by game. This year Grove City, Darby, Coffman, UA, Liberty, Thomas and possibly Marysville should be enough to cause some concern.
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That isnt easy either lol. Middletown's success last year against them was in the air which is unusual since middletow mostly runs the triple option but the middies didnt have much success running against them last year.
I don't expect PC to put up alot of points. They have to rely on their D to keep it close down the stretch. I'm sure OneT and the rest of Picktown knows it's going to be VERY difficult to beat them down there. I'm sure you already know Colerain has a very powerful run game with Ramsby, Sorn and their star Davis returning from injury. Can you tell us what to expect from Colerain?
I'll keep my theories to myself but that's bene the case the last few years, not for eternity, PC and PN have had the most physically large lines strength and PC in particular has had good size backers who can run a bit as wel as excellant defensive backs some with good size as well { Foster }
Is the Freshman propsect one of those turning 16 years old later this year Frosh or a typical 14-15 year old ? kids entering High School are getting older and older it seems. You see some of these kids peaking physically as Soph's in some cases and have to wonder just how old they were when they started High School sometimes .
Not a knock on PC or any other school it's prevelant in society in general . Size can cyclical , although some places seem to grow them bigger, back in 2006 adn 2007 i REMEMBER pc BEING A BIT SMALLISH UP FRONT , so it's not as if this is written in stone, Coffman was pretty big for a few years up front , not so much the last few years .
GREG B at backer for PC is a baller, kid is tough and makes plays , definatley someone offenses definitely have to account for .
should be some parity this year , anyone have any idea who is the prohibitive favorites?? I can't see anyone that will be that dominant
What's the scoop at Coffman? Do you think they have a shot this year? Right now, I'd say it's a toss up between 4-5 teams. Based on personnel and scheduling here's my central Ohio top 13.
1. Davidson
2. Coffman
3. Pick Central
4. Pick North
5. Westerville South
6. Darby
7. Gahanna
8. UA
9. Westerville Central
10. Thomas
11. Liberty
12. Reynoldsburg
13. Lancaster
Oh Buck I see you working trying to needle the larger meaner tougher Pick fans and more importantly playazzz.
you ask if The Rocks have a shot and then put them at 2 ?? I see yu working trying to rile up future DC opponents , good strategy but they are no better than 7 right now , AT BEST they won't lose by 70 like tHey did last year to PC in the play-offs but those Big Ole PC and PN kids can still manhandle people , and we all know they are inherently tougher kids , just ask them they will tell you , aDN THEY ALSO WORK HARDER once again just ask them they will set you straight they flat out run more lift more of course also may be HD is close to their work level but no one else .
very early top 10 in this region not including the infiltrators from the greater Dayton area.
1} PN - Is this the breakthrough year?? more high end kids than anyone else at the moment may be if you take rivals as gospel, but they are by far the best team in the state to not make the play-offs the last two years and it isn't close , they not only make it this year but do they represent R-3 in the final four ? I say they can .
2} PC - still near the top , not as many R-burg Studs this year ?? may be there are let us now Tiger , any other move ins of note ? Yes talent is there of the non move in variety I get it , but don't tell me your the same team without the R-Burg defections the last few years .
3} HD - they shorten the game as if they will be shot on spot if it goes more than 2 hours , don't need tons of talent to be really successful with that system { Ask certain Navy , Air Force or even Army teams } they play not to lose which is usually a bad thing in most sports but they make it work EVERY YEAR , so noot what I would call high end talent all over the field but they have some really tough and talented kids as well and a few is more than enough for success there.
4}WS - Just a hunch , they have most everyone back , they wil reverse some of those 42-38 type losses with a much better defense and Ball will put the rock in the end zone enough to win 8 games .
5} UA - Junior class , Junior Class , Junior Class , did I mention the Junior class ?? that should rile up the UA Senior class enough to say what about us ? Sleeper team for an R-3 title , but haven't I said something like this recently ?? Lets hope I'm WRONG AGAIN.
6} Darby - another Hunch , We'll take it Day by Day with this club , love the coach and the vibe there , numbers may be a perpetual problem , I heard they have a decent linebacker there? Not a Rumor they do .
Coffman{ Walsh is a player and they have a handful of good football players but they need to work harder starting NOW } Gahanna{ RUNNING BACK STUD and some numbers over there and positive momentum will keep them in the hunt } R-Burg with talent not defecting as readily to pick } , Liberty { solid well coached program will move the football with their athletic QB who makes a lot of plays } Lancaster has been disappointing the last couple years , will they get it together this year ?? the East has been stronger top to bottom the last couple years not helping their cause
for the players the season really starts NOW , the next six weeks are HUGE in terms of getting fully ready , physically and mentally .
the lifting and running , the training , the throwing , the seven on seven's , the bonding through tedious hard work in June and July is often cited by successful teams later in the year as a key for their ultimate success and they do it for a reason , because it's TRUE.
What some kids need too realize is the sacrifices made now , really do make a difference later on. the difference between the decent and good players and the BEST players is often what they do at these times of year working not only to ensure a starting position in some cases but working with their future opponents in mind . I see too many kids work only hard enough and with enough purpose to better secure a starting position on their own team , when the real goal should be WORKING TO MAXIMIZE what you have to compete against the best opponents you will eventually play, THAT is THE KEY , kids with enough talent to guarentee a starting position on their teams sometimes don;t get better from year to year because they know they don't have to to start again on their team, WRONG ATTITUDE you aren't going against THE PLAYERS YOU BEAT OUT ON YOUR TEAM , you are going against better players than them in many cases
Just something to think about as kids make great sacrifices in the Summer in order to be ready to play well during the season
Oh Buck I see you working trying to needle the larger meaner tougher Pick fans and more importantly playazzz.
you ask if The Rocks have a shot and then put them at 2 ?? I see yu working trying to rile up future DC opponents , good strategy but they are no better than 7 right now , AT BEST they won't lose by 70 like tHey did last year to PC in the play-offs but those Big Ole PC and PN kids can still manhandle people , and we all know they are inherently tougher kids , just ask them they will tell you , aDN THEY ALSO WORK HARDER once again just ask them they will set you straight they flat out run more lift more of course also may be HD is close to their work level but no one else .
very early top 10 in this region not including the infiltrators from the greater Dayton area.
1} PN - Is this the breakthrough year?? more high end kids than anyone else at the moment may be if you take rivals as gospel, but they are by far the best team in the state to not make the play-offs the last two years and it isn't close , they not only make it this year but do they represent R-3 in the final four ? I say they can .
2} PC - still near the top , not as many R-burg Studs this year ?? may be there are let us now Tiger , any other move ins of note ? Yes talent is there of the non move in variety I get it , but don't tell me your the same team without the R-Burg defections the last few years .
3} HD - they shorten the game as if they will be shot on spot if it goes more than 2 hours , don't need tons of talent to be really successful with that system { Ask certain Navy , Air Force or even Army teams } they play not to lose which is usually a bad thing in most sports but they make it work EVERY YEAR , so noot what I would call high end talent all over the field but they have some really tough and talented kids as well and a few is more than enough for success there.
4}WS - Just a hunch , they have most everyone back , they wil reverse some of those 42-38 type losses with a much better defense and Ball will put the rock in the end zone enough to win 8 games .
5} UA - Junior class , Junior Class , Junior Class , did I mention the Junior class ?? that should rile up the UA Senior class enough to say what about us ? Sleeper team for an R-3 title , but haven't I said something like this recently ?? Lets hope I'm WRONG AGAIN.
6} Darby - another Hunch , We'll take it Day by Day with this club , love the coach and the vibe there , numbers may be a perpetual problem , I heard they have a decent linebacker there? Not a Rumor they do .
Coffman{ Walsh is a player and they have a handful of good football players but they need to work harder starting NOW } Gahanna{ RUNNING BACK STUD and some numbers over there and positive momentum will keep them in the hunt } R-Burg with talent not defecting as readily to pick } , Liberty { solid well coached program will move the football with their athletic QB who makes a lot of plays } Lancaster has been disappointing the last couple years , will they get it together this year ?? the East has been stronger top to bottom the last couple years not helping their cause
Nice early predictions Stiv.
There has been some shaking up with transfers but not from the usual suspects.
Westerville So is actually losing their stud Sr Ball to Gahanna.
UA is losing Drake to westerville central.
Both have been confirmed.
Also Anu and another kid are transferring into WC which is now a true sleeper pick. Yes Westerville Central!
Westerville schools' sports were on life support in May and now they are attracting top level transfers! Wow
As far as Darby...they are loaded defensively led by Sr LB Cam Kohl. Yes he is good. And he looks ripped this yr! Same weight as last yr. The #s are ticking up. Only line depth will be a concern this yr not overall #s depth. Darby frosh have won the Central 2 out of the last 3 yrs. There is talent on Leppert Rd.
Oh Buck I see you working trying to needle the larger meaner tougher Pick fans and more importantly playazzz.
you ask if The Rocks have a shot and then put them at 2 ?? I see yu working trying to rile up future DC opponents , good strategy but they are no better than 7 right now , AT BEST they won't lose by 70 like tHey did last year to PC in the play-offs but those Big Ole PC and PN kids can still manhandle people , and we all know they are inherently tougher kids , just ask them they will tell you , aDN THEY ALSO WORK HARDER once again just ask them they will set you straight they flat out run more lift more of course also may be HD is close to their work level but no one else .
very early top 10 in this region not including the infiltrators from the greater Dayton area.
1} PN - Is this the breakthrough year?? more high end kids than anyone else at the moment may be if you take rivals as gospel, but they are by far the best team in the state to not make the play-offs the last two years and it isn't close , they not only make it this year but do they represent R-3 in the final four ? I say they can .
2} PC - still near the top , not as many R-burg Studs this year ?? may be there are let us now Tiger , any other move ins of note ? Yes talent is there of the non move in variety I get it , but don't tell me your the same team without the R-Burg defections the last few years .
3} HD - they shorten the game as if they will be shot on spot if it goes more than 2 hours , don't need tons of talent to be really successful with that system { Ask certain Navy , Air Force or even Army teams } they play not to lose which is usually a bad thing in most sports but they make it work EVERY YEAR , so noot what I would call high end talent all over the field but they have some really tough and talented kids as well and a few is more than enough for success there.
4}WS - Just a hunch , they have most everyone back , they wil reverse some of those 42-38 type losses with a much better defense and Ball will put the rock in the end zone enough to win 8 games .
5} UA - Junior class , Junior Class , Junior Class , did I mention the Junior class ?? that should rile up the UA Senior class enough to say what about us ? Sleeper team for an R-3 title , but haven't I said something like this recently ?? Lets hope I'm WRONG AGAIN.
6} Darby - another Hunch , We'll take it Day by Day with this club , love the coach and the vibe there , numbers may be a perpetual problem , I heard they have a decent linebacker there? Not a Rumor they do .
Coffman{ Walsh is a player and they have a handful of good football players but they need to work harder starting NOW } Gahanna{ RUNNING BACK STUD and some numbers over there and positive momentum will keep them in the hunt } R-Burg with talent not defecting as readily to pick } , Liberty { solid well coached program will move the football with their athletic QB who makes a lot of plays } Lancaster has been disappointing the last couple years , will they get it together this year ?? the East has been stronger top to bottom the last couple years not helping their cause
Yes, I think Coffman will be really good this year. I'm surprised by you have them at #7. I think everyone's overrating PN a team that hasn't won a playoff game yet. North doesn't have enough playoff experience (only one appearance) to be considered #1 in the region.
Thanks for the transfer information on Ball, Drake is a big loss for them if confirmed , my guess is he and his advisers don't thiink the wing T isn't the offense for a kid who wants to really develop at QB , I get it , That's the offense my team ran in High School and our QB didn't get the looks other kids did whoo I and others thought he was better than ,, but with a big O-Line the run game worked and was successful so the throwing oppurtunities were less foor hiim with a more conservative coach. As a running back it was great for me but not our QB .
Of course back in the day the Wing T was fairly popular for a while in the 80's and early 90's , not so much now of course . Drake steps into the Kodras role.
Ball I had hear last month was going then not going , is he defintaly eligible , didn't he just get there in May ? South is still going to be good , their kid in place now is very good I am told by a good source as many of you guys know as well.
Ball is not playing QB in college , he will be a nice get for the Gahanna hoops team, not a great trend what is happening with all the transfers , but I always make exeptions for QB'S and may be a unique situation for another skill kid , Let's face it if you want to be noticed as a QB in the current college football landscape playing at Davidson or Darby isn't going to be benificial to name just two , UA's wing T isn't as one dimensional but in football with no AAU type off season for players to be showcased high school season film is crucial, QB'S and receivers need to have something to show colleges, camps and combines are important but you actual game footage against good competition to show them.
Kohl is impressive to me , Darby needs Day to make a lot of plays but he certainly is capable. Shakes things up a bit
What's the scoop at Coffman? Do you think they have a shot this year? Right now, I'd say it's a toss up between 4-5 teams. Based on personnel and scheduling here's my central Ohio top 13.
1. Davidson
2. Coffman
3. Pick Central
4. Pick North
5. Westerville South
6. Darby
7. Gahanna
8. UA
9. Westerville Central
10. Thomas
11. Liberty
12. Reynoldsburg
13. Lancaster
Davidson at 1 based on personnel and scheduling?
Personnel - I have faith in the coaching staff, but this is the biggest rebuilding job they've had - 8 returning lettermen (2 of whom are kickers), 10 new starters on defense, only one returning OL (who didn't play 100% of the time)...
Scheduling - Darby and Coffman in the first four weeks - in each of the last two seasons, Davidson didn't play a team that finished with a winning record until the 8th week of the season. (Sharp contrast to the 2009 team, which didn't play a team with a losing record until the last week of the season)
The system always has them competitive, but as far as being the class of the region I think they're a year away.
There has been some shaking up with transfers but not from the usual suspects.
Westerville So is actually losing their stud Sr Ball to Gahanna.
UA is losing Drake to westerville central.
Both have been confirmed.
Also Anu and another kid are transferring into WC which is now a true sleeper pick. Yes Westerville Central!
I am a little surprised to see star players moving around like that, which is a bit unusual. However, it's not entirely a shocker that Ball would move from Westerville South, which didn't make the playoffs last year, to Gahanna that did. Drake from UA to Westerville Central is a bit harder to figure out.
Stiv -- I'd be curious as to why you are so luke warm on Coffman. I think all of the skill guys accept Davis are back. The d-line should be in better shape this year than last (McCollom and Hollern being a year older and stronger). I believe the LB corps was pretty soft last year and may not be any better this year. Also, the secondary was almost all seniors last year if I recall correctly. The o-line graduated their two biggest guys, but added the Westerville South transfer. Any talk of them moving someone like Hollern over to the offensive side like they did with Carrico a few years ago?
Personnel - I have faith in the coaching staff, but this is the biggest rebuilding job they've had - 8 returning lettermen (2 of whom are kickers), 10 new starters on defense, only one returning OL (who didn't play 100% of the time)...
Scheduling - Darby and Coffman in the first four weeks - in each of the last two seasons, Davidson didn't play a team that finished with a winning record until the 8th week of the season. (Sharp contrast to the 2009 team, which didn't play a team with a losing record until the last week of the season)
The system always has them competitive, but as far as being the class of the region I think they're a year away.
Another point on the schedule:
Home conference games: Westland, Crossing, Thomas
Road conference games: Coffman, UA, Liberty, Marysville
Not that I think home/away really makes that much difference in high school absent a long bus trip. Coffman and UA are in no way intimidating environments, but nonetheless they are on the road for the 4 other best teams in the conference. Of course, this also means they should get all 4 at home in 2013 when the vaunted junior class are seniors.
Does any of the Columbus area teams play any of the region 4 teams besides Davidson. Which I cant figure out why they are playing Beavercreek they just got there 1st win in the GWOC-Central last season
I don't think so , Carrico going to the O-Line in hindsight was probably a mistake , Stoudt got the ball out very quickly and was a veteran so his protection was a bit better with Brad at Tackle , but the d-line was hurt a lot by his move to Offense .
Carrico would have likley greatly improved his production at D-Tackle in his Senior year in my opinion, but that's a done deal.
Kraly was an excellent linebacker last year , not real big or flashy at about 190 pounds or so but productive he and Kristan are gone , Ian Flinders who made a lot of plays last year especially rushing the passer is back , needs to stay healthy Vinny Jones is also back and should be good , so the Backers should be OK , certainly not at the level of the 2007- 2009 corp but not weak.
Secondary was solid last year no question but they usually have the type of athletes that can do the job in that area , Jacob Gilbert made plays there last year and is back a fairly athletic group of say 5-6 kids who will fight for jobs , the O-Line with the transfer of Murdock will be solid with Zinni and Robinson and Uhler backl shouldn't be a need to move Hoollern or anyone else from the D-Line .
You guys know me , I admit to being a bit of a sandbagger LOL, but if you look at the schedule facing Donovan Wilson in week one vs. Jerome Houston in week two against Scioto and of course the week four showdown vs. HD and EJ Jennings weakening the defensive line to move a solid performer to offense may not be wise and is unlikely
Does any of the Columbus area teams play any of the region 4 teams besides Davidson. Which I cant figure out why they are playing Beavercreek they just got there 1st win in the GWOC-Central last season
Several. Lancaster plays Mason. PC plays colerain. UA plays Elder. I think Westerville South plays Northmont, if I am not mistaken.
As to Davidson playing Beavercreek, I'm sure there will be a chorus of folks calling it cowardly, but White has said time and time again that he doesn't feel he has anything to prove. He's got two rings and plenty of wins over big schools on his resume. As for Beavercreek, I am not sure how they will be thi syear, but they are a big district with a lot of resources. I expect them to be a program on the rise.
Does any of the Columbus area teams play any of the region 4 teams besides Davidson. Which I cant figure out why they are playing Beavercreek they just got there 1st win in the GWOC-Central last season
Well, the Pickerington Central/Cincinnati Colerain game in week one has already been mentioned in this thread.
Upper Arlington/Cincinnati Elder, Lancaster/Mason, Pickerington North/Cincinnati Princeton, and Westerville South/Clayton Northmont are all in week two.
In other action, there are the following matchups during the first three weeks: Dublin Coffman/Massillon Perry, Gahanna/Strongsville, Pickerington North/Fremont Ross, Hilliard Darby/Toledo St. John's Jesuit, and Reynoldsburg/Findlay.
If the Davidson/Coffman game continues in week four of each year, I don't think you're going to see a "big game" slated for week three. I have no idea of why Beavercreek, because I'd rather play a Columbus team anyway.
I see no reason to drive all over the state, unless no one in Columbus will agree to a game. Davidson got Toledo St. Francis to agree to a one game deal in Hilliard in 2010, which is hunky-dory with me, but I doubt there are many schools that will agree to that, which is also perfectly understandable.
UA has essentially made the same hard bargain with Elder this year, because they know Elder has a hard time filling out their schedule without travelling all over Creation. So, they took advantage of the situation. Good for them.
...facing Donovan Wilson in week one vs. Jerome Houston in week two against Scioto and of course the week four showdown vs. HD and EJ Jennings weakening the defensive line to move a solid performer to offense may not be wise and is unlikely
Excellent point. I had forgotten about the HD showdown being early this year. Coffman will face 3 of the best running backs in Central Ohio in the opening 4 weeks of the season. Hopefully the nightmare of Peanut Jackson circa 20120 isn't revisited upon them.
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Several. Lancaster plays Mason. PC plays colerain. UA plays Elder. I think Westerville South plays Northmont, if I am not mistaken.
As to Davidson playing Beavercreek, I'm sure there will be a chorus of folks calling it cowardly, but White has said time and time again that he doesn't feel he has anything to prove. He's got two rings and plenty of wins over big schools on his resume. As for Beavercreek, I am not sure how they will be thi syear, but they are a big district with a lot of resources. I expect them to be a program on the rise.
Beavercreek will be ok this season 5-5 maybe 6-4 they are led by there linebacker Airus Moore. The reason I questioned the game is because Davidson could find the same caliber of Beavercreek with way less travel.
The reason I questioned the game is because Davidson could find the same caliber of Beavercreek with way less travel.
cats -- Agree. Other side of the coin is that it is a way for R3 to "import" Harbins from other regions without central ohio teams knocking each other out of the playoffs. I doesn't matter as much now, since all major central ohio teams are in R3. But I think it will matter much more beginning 2013 when R3 is essentially split between R3 and a "new" R7. The regional footprints will be bigger and the central ohio teams presently competing for 8 slots will soon be competing for 16 slots. Importing harbins from other regions will help the local guys.
Personnel - I have faith in the coaching staff, but this is the biggest rebuilding job they've had - 8 returning lettermen (2 of whom are kickers), 10 new starters on defense, only one returning OL (who didn't play 100% of the time)...
Scheduling - Darby and Coffman in the first four weeks - in each of the last two seasons, Davidson didn't play a team that finished with a winning record until the 8th week of the season. (Sharp contrast to the 2009 team, which didn't play a team with a losing record until the last week of the season)
The system always has them competitive, but as far as being the class of the region I think they're a year away.
Just about every team in the region has some physical and mental rebuilding to do this year. That's why I said it looks like a toss up between 4-5 teams meaning 1-5 are interchangeable. At the end of the day, I expect the usual contenders to be there at the top.
Early on, the Davidson offense ( like 2009) should be capable of controlling the pace to help the staff make key defensive adjustments. I just don't see Davidson losing to Darby and Coffman. I also think the Davidson/Coffman winner will win the Central and get the #1 or #2 seed.
Drake was the best player in the Junior class at UA. I would argue that he was the best athlete that they had on the field last year. I think 5-5 at best for the Bears.
Gahanna with Ball may now be the favorite out east but PC and PN will both be strong. Also don't count out Reynoldsburg.
Coffman will actually be stronger on Defense this year, For the first time since 09 all the LB's will be over 200 lbs. This was a huge weakness the last 2 years (almost 700 yds by 1 player in 2010). The Rocks will also be better on the O-line. The best 2 players last year are back and you add the transfer from Westerville and a weakness is now a strength. The big question with the Rocks will be who will be the playmaker that Walsh can go to.
The Darby/Davidson winner will be one of the favorites in the Region, while the loser may fade away. My $$ would be on the Cats.
My sleeper is Olentangy Liberty, if they can win 2 of 3 against UA, Coffman & Davidson, the could make some noise.
You have them in front of Liberty and Marysville, so you think they will beat both of them who they play in the Central? I think they've registered 2 non-losing seasons in the last 20 years. What is the cause for your optimism?
Ye Olde Tommy W isn't winning more than 4 games most likley , that is without thier schedule in front of me , but who are they beating in the conference ? Ok 5-5 , tough place to win ging agaisnt the programs they have to play each year , they flat out aren;t beating Liberty , Coffman Davidson and UA more than once a decade . they are good in some other sports and it's a good school but football as they say just " INS';T THEIR THING "
they will have some very good individual players here and there, and sometimes they give the better programs a good go , but in the end Ye Olde Tommy W is the perpetual also ran, better than Central Crossing and Westland , will play hard and give the other teams a workout sometimes but usually fall short , can't seeing them making the play-offs anytime soon , when was the last time that happened by the way ?
In fact if you look at it the last 8-10 years how many different teams have even made a regional final ? from memory so excuse any mistake
2003 - Coffman- Scioto
2004- Kilbourne - Davidson
2005- KILB- DAVID
2006- Coffman - Davidson
2007- Coffman - Darby
2008 - Pick Central - Davidson
2009- Davidson- Coffman
2010 - Davidson - Pick Central
2011 Pick Central- Davidson
that's SIX teams total in this time , with two making One appearence and one making two , with Kilbourne making it as a seven seed I beleive in 2005.
So it's basically been Davidson with Seven appearences which is outstanding , Coffman with four and Pick Central with three setting themselves apart from the pack , Kilbourne after getting to the final those two years has had a play-off team but made little to no noise since , Scioto has had a few good teams one playing in D-2 where they might have gone far but lost thier QB in the play-offs adn Darby has been solid but not made noise in the play-offs since that great final with Coffman . In summary parity seems to be a myth overall as three teams seem to have that final market cornered a bit lately , over 30 teams in the region and not many different teams getting to a regional final . This appears to be a year where a " NEW " team will get to that level , my guess is Pick North is way overdue for some play-off success adn has a great shot to get to a R-3 final but after that it may be one of the usually consistent suspects joining them .
The reasons for such a paucity of teams getting to that point is debatable , but I guess we can give credit to the FEW who do reach this level as getting what it takes to get there and implementing a system that makes them consistently good most years if not really good to great some years . Some schools like Ye Olde Tommy are like a stagnant middle class worker who is making the same when adusted for inflation as he did 10 years ago with no end in sight , while the Blue Chip programs seem to continue thier success maintaining a certain standard of "LIVING" at some point the landscape will shift a bit certainly but in High School football , but having good coaching staffs with good continuity , having a good plan and most importantly sticking to it , having and placing high expectations for excellance on your stafdf and players and great tradition is a hard thing to overcome for other programs that don't have it or acheived it yet.
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