The Westerville Levy passed now we have a better picture of the top teams in R3. I think we're going to see more parity in the region. On paper Pick North, Westerville South, Darby and Coffman could challenge Pick Central and Davidson for the 2012 R3 title. It's going to be very interesting to see how it unfolds. Who are the sleeper teams that could emerge as contenders? Thoughts?
speaking of Westerville I expect South to imrpove a lot defensively adn with a three year starter in Ball at QB their offense will be pretty good again, they won't lose those 40-35 type games next year.
Davidson will give the bal to EJ Jennings 30+ a game and hope to control the ball as usual , and that is a must as There seems to be a drop off coming defensively , if they maintain that type of defense next year my hats off to them but I expect them to give up more points certainly may be a lot more agaisnt good offesnes .
Pick C is still the team to beat , not as strong as last year as they lose a bunch of really good players but the talent is still there no question , may be not as dominat as last year though .
Pick North is may be the best team in the last 5 years or so to miss the play-offs twice, bad luck with some of thier oponets stinking up the joint not getting them enough points , played Central the toughest BY FAR of any area teams and they will be good again .
Darby has a few studs and a program that is ging in a good direction , will this be the year they get over that Coffman hump ? they have been very close a few times now, that game is one they need to win most likley to get to the play-offs , Day will be one of the top few playmakers in the region and is game changer .
Coffman has a very good QB coming back in Walsh and that's always a good palce to start, if Williamson can stay healthy he could have a big year at Running back , they have some kids back on defesne that can play a bit McCollum wil get a few offers and is a meance to opponets backfields, he gets the key sack or tackle for a loss that changes momentum on many occassions and he will be only tougher to block next year as he gets a bigger and stronger , not at Pick C's level or Pick North probably but they will give Davidson and Darby all they can handle adn both those game sshojld, be worth the price of admission,, they play Jerome for the first time in week one should be a good take for Dublin fans, Coffman should handle them but there will be a lot of emotion in that game .
UA has a good Soph class that wil be more mature next year and they will be a tough out for most teams and they may be a darkhorse Regional final type team, may be a year away from getting to that elusive level of a regional final or more ??
Question ? who is going to be Pick C's QB next year ??
Stiv - Remember, Darby is moving to the Cardinal next year, so they won't face Coffman unless it is in the Playoffs.
I think Central's choice at QB is between a Senior-to-be, who the backup last year and the JV QB who was actually a freshman (Christian Whitmer). Whitmer is very dynamic and has huge upside (as evidenced by the 80 yarder he dropped on Coffman in the playoffs). Not sure he is ready to be QB1 just yet though. I think he'll compete though.
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my bad that's right they add Marysville and O Liberty will now be a conference foe , good to shake things up every so often Coffma will play Davidson earleir than usual as well , better schedule dynamic for them as they went many years with a bottom heavy schedule as did Davidson for that matter .
Yes that kid is athletic , probably will get some snaps at some point as a SOPH , whats the pecking order over there, I have PC and PN as the top dogs, Gahanna lost some key players , Lancaster has fallen off overall it seems should be very competitive overal , last year I thought that PC was in a class by itself adn it proved fairly accurate given the way the took care of Davidson especially , kind of laid an egg in the title game { Blown coverages , three overthrows with wide open recievers down field , but Iggy played great , made the catches got open and the QB was very good }
who would be a team if any one knows who may surprise that isn't part of the usual suspects line-up?? Liberty ?? Marysville ?? what does Grove City have ??
speaking of Westerville I expect South to imrpove a lot defensively adn with a three year starter in Ball at QB their offense will be pretty good again, they won't lose those 40-35 type games next year.
Davidson will give the bal to EJ Jennings 30+ a game and hope to control the ball as usual , and that is a must as There seems to be a drop off coming defensively , if they maintain that type of defense next year my hats off to them but I expect them to give up more points certainly may be a lot more agaisnt good offesnes .
Pick C is still the team to beat , not as strong as last year as they lose a bunch of really good players but the talent is still there no question , may be not as dominat as last year though .
Pick North is may be the best team in the last 5 years or so to miss the play-offs twice, bad luck with some of thier oponets stinking up the joint not getting them enough points , played Central the toughest BY FAR of any area teams and they will be good again .
Darby has a few studs and a program that is ging in a good direction , will this be the year they get over that Coffman hump ? they have been very close a few times now, that game is one they need to win most likley to get to the play-offs , Day will be one of the top few playmakers in the region and is game changer .
Coffman has a very good QB coming back in Walsh and that's always a good palce to start, if Williamson can stay healthy he could have a big year at Running back , they have some kids back on defesne that can play a bit McCollum wil get a few offers and is a meance to opponets backfields, he gets the key sack or tackle for a loss that changes momentum on many occassions and he will be only tougher to block next year as he gets a bigger and stronger , not at Pick C's level or Pick North probably but they will give Davidson and Darby all they can handle adn both those game sshojld, be worth the price of admission,, they play Jerome for the first time in week one should be a good take for Dublin fans, Coffman should handle them but there will be a lot of emotion in that game .
UA has a good Soph class that wil be more mature next year and they will be a tough out for most teams and they may be a darkhorse Regional final type team, may be a year away from getting to that elusive level of a regional final or more ??
Question ? who is going to be Pick C's QB next year ??
Right now I just don't see a clear top 5 in the region IMO its wide open. I honestly don't see PC as the team to beat this year. I don't think they have enough big-time weapons on offense to place them at the top. Breaking in a new QB and inexperienced backfield (compared to last season) is going to make it tougher early on. Defensively, PC should be strong enough to contend with anyone in the region. Colerain and Marion Franklin are definitely going show them what they have. Colerain is the favored team expecting to win. I also think North has a GREAT chance to beat them this year. After looking at what North has coming back on paper it wouldn't surprise me to see them win the Ohio and make deep run post-season.
Westerville South, Darby, and Coffman "should" be on par with the top dogs. South has more overall talent than anyone (on paper) this could be their year to make a deep run, especially with a favorable schedule. Darby has experience at key positions depth is still a concern. If, the Darby staff manages to develop chemistry and a few underclassman to go with what they already have, I see them hanging with elite teams. If not, I don't see them taking that next step as a program. The Davidson game is going to be a huge test for both teams. Davidson should be better offensively, good enough to carry the defense early on. As usual, look for a few sleepers to emerge on both sides of the ball the talent is definitely there.
Coffman has a good nucleus returning the big question is can they bring some toughness? DC just didn't look physically strong enough to compete and it showed on the field. DC also needs to develop a legit passing game with more than one target to get back to the top. UA has a VERY tough schedule Elder, Gahanna, Davidson, Coffman and Liberty might be too much for them to handle. At the end of the day, I see UA as a middle of the pack OCC team on the outside looking in.
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Picktown Central only has 2-3 starters returning on each side of the ball.
Coffman has a good nucleus returning the big question is can they bring some toughness? DC just didn't look physically strong enough to compete and it showed on the field. DC also needs to develop a legit passing game with more than one target to get back to the top.
Buck, Good analysis overall. Especially on Coffman. After Davis was suspended, Walsh struggled with the remaining WR crew. They looked like less-than-prime-time players against UA and PC. The toughness comment is spot on. The Rock flat out quit against PC. They lost before they got off the bus. I think Crabtree challenged them to spend a lot of time in the weightroom after that. Hopefully they listened to him.
Jeremy Ebert(Northwestern, Hilliard Darby) will be moving to the next level... the NFL!
Ran a 4.38 40 top 5 for receivers at the combine. Blew up the ridiculous notion that pegged him as a "possession" receiver.
Darby will joining fellow Darby and Ohio U grad Taylor Price as NFL receivers!
Congrats Jeremy!
I think that UA, Coffman, PC, PN & Davidson will be in the top 5 (in no particular order). Westerville South may be the most athletic team but is so undisciplined that they seem to always shoot themselves in the foot with bad penalties. Darby will be solid but until the can "walk the walk" and win a game against a team with a playoff pedigree, I am not sold on them. The Davidson game will tell us a lot about them. The two sleeper teams that could make some noise are Reynoldsburg and Olentangy Liberty. Coach White is impressive and seems the have Burg going in the right direction. Liberty depends on if they can win 2 of 3 against the Big 3 in the Central.
The toughness thing with Coffman was what I brought up after they got handled by Pick North in the first scrimmage last Summer, they did improve from that point and got a bit tougher, but part of the problem was againstt teams with good size they simply haven't been big enough the last two years , it's more than a lack of weight room work although they need to improve that aspect no doubt , sometimes you just don't have the horses up front.
they competed OK with Davidson , I thought they played right with them for over three quarters , weren't overmatched by much at all , PN and PC ?/ they were much bigger than Davidson who wasn't small but not overwhelming , UA they outplayed in the first half UA wore them down with superior size in the second half no doubt they were the stronger football team, with Davis available I stil think Coffman wins that game though as they sputtered near the goal line adn Davis prodcued TD'S big time adn if he';s there you double him and someoen else was open . the recieving core after Davis got hurt and with Clayton Vranic who didn't go out hs Senior year after catching a lot of ball shis Junior year and in the rotation his Soph year before getting hurt not there lacked the top end athletes ready for really good defenses it really hurt them he was the one kid you can't lose on that team besides may be Walsh, Davis more than picked up the slack all season but they had kids who were a year away from serious prodcution that is correct , this year some of those kids not ready to go agasint really good defenses will do better this year no question , most years they don't have to be the go to guys but they did last year at the end unfortuantley.
Liberty is due to break through a bit may be , they had a huge win vs. Westerville South two years ago but missed the play-offs , they are well coached and have some talent up there QB is back and he is very good at times , they have lost to Coffman 4 times in a row two of the games have been close, two not as much , but that is probably a circle the wagons game for them , a real key game to their play-off hopes .
PC defense has some studs , offense takes a step back Davidson may be reversed with the defense may be lacking agaisnt good offenses ?? they are a proud unit , but I can't see them being nearly the shut down unit of last year when they play talented teams , Coffman shod be able to finally at least score a TD against them this year ?
now that R-Burg's kids aren;t automatically going to PC they wil be better they have one larger high school a good football demographic a good coach now who is familar with the kids so yes they will may be spoil one of the usual suspects play-off hopes this year ??
Ebert is a very good athlete always ran very well , that 2007 regional final against Coffman was full of great athletes speed everywhere and Ebert played QB if they had a throwing QB and he played reciever Coffman would have had real trouble covering him ,he made a ton of plays at QB though in that game .
South is always the wild card they have scary athletes , they are the type of team who scares you a bit in warm-ups off but they do seem to make too many mistakes, no way they should have lsot a few of those games last year to who they were losing to, even if they were a younger team, they will make the play-offs where they are seeded seems to be the only question schedule doesn't seem particularly arduous.
There will be about 6-7 teams I would imagine who feel they have a legititimate shot at getting to a regional final or winining it which is different than the last five years or so to me , more parity than ever which is a good thing in some repsects
I think while PC is certainly not as explosive as last year , you can't assume that the back-ups from last year are going to struggle , thier offense is going to take a stpe back and a new QB is always a transition but there is talent over there we haven't seen yet , although in the next few years they won't be getting some of R-Burg's best athletes like they did for a few years and benifitted from.
There was chatter earlier in the year about Coach Pentello retiring at South. Anyone know if that was legit or "levy bluster"? That could impact things.
Also, regarding O-Liberty, I seem to recall that Westerville South's backup QB was transferring there regardless of the levy outcome. He was more of a thrower and did well when Ball went down. Any confirm?
Buck, Good analysis overall. Especially on Coffman. After Davis was suspended, Walsh struggled with the remaining WR crew. They looked like less-than-prime-time players against UA and PC. The toughness comment is spot on. The Rock flat out quit against PC. They lost before they got off the bus. I think Crabtree challenged them to spend a lot of time in the weightroom after that. Hopefully they listened to him.
If, the players listened Coffman should be right there near the top. My question is who are Walsh's main targets this year? Does Williamson play some receiver while Chang is on the field?
I haven't heard anything new on the Rocky situation. I assume he's still there teaching right now or it would have been more written about his departure.
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I think that UA, Coffman, PC, PN & Davidson will be in the top 5 (in no particular order). Westerville South may be the most athletic team but is so undisciplined that they seem to always shoot themselves in the foot with bad penalties. Darby will be solid but until the can "walk the walk" and win a game against a team with a playoff pedigree, I am not sold on them. The Davidson game will tell us a lot about them. The two sleeper teams that could make some noise are Reynoldsburg and Olentangy Liberty. Coach White is impressive and seems the have Burg going in the right direction. Liberty depends on if they can win 2 of 3 against the Big 3 in the Central.
I agree, WS killed themselves many times last year with mistakes. This year WS has experienced big time weapons on offense and I believe 8 returning starters on defense. Before the Levy came about expectations were very high at South. With or without Rocky ( if all players stay) WS could be scary with the talent they have in place. I also agree with you on Darby it's going to be interesting to see what they bring to the table against Davidson. Reynoldsburg and Liberty are on the outside looking in.IMO
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I think while PC is certainly not as explosive as last year , you can't assume that the back-ups from last year are going to struggle , thier offense is going to take a stpe back and a new QB is always a transition but there is talent over there we haven't seen yet , although in the next few years they won't be getting some of R-Burg's best athletes like they did for a few years and benifitted from.
If you didn't see the backups why do you think they're the team to beat? I didn't see enough from the backups other than #4 Walton, #8 Whitner Soph to be, and up and coming junior #20 Pieczynski. I think it's going to depend on how fast they mature and adjust to their roles. Last season the majority of PC's replacements at key positions were seniors this year it's several underclassman. I think it's going to be a struggle early on. If, PC split one of two games against Colerain and MF, I like their chances to make the playoffs. If not, I think PC could be in big trouble this time with a younger and less experienced football team.
WS could be scary with the talent they have in place.
This is true almost every year at Westerville South. If they could play up to their potential every week, they would be scary good. There's never been a talent problem at Westerville South.
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If, PC split one of two games against Colerain and MF, I like their chances to make the playoffs. If not, I think PC could be in big trouble this time with a younger and less experienced football team.
I also agree with you here. Even with a loaded team last year, the Tigers were 36 seconds away from a loss to Picktown North and not making the playoffs at all.
This is true almost every year at Westerville South. If they could play up to their potential every week, they would be scary good. There's never been a talent problem at Westerville South.
I also agree with you here. Even with a loaded team last year, the Tigers were 36 seconds away from a loss to Picktown North and not making the playoffs at all.
Just a PC until someone in the region beats them , not really THE TOP DOG as I beleive there really isn't one this year for the first time in a while .
Most years you have a pretty good idea of the top 2-3 teams and then there is mostly a drop -off a bit after that , not this year though a lot of factors still be to be determined .
As for Wash's targets for Coffman, Senior to be Austen Rankin had some moments last year and will be someone Walsh will look for , Tony Woodforde saw some action last year and will be more prodcutive next year if he is on the field more and in a more featured role. a few Juniors to be have potential and a Soph to be Gage Hisey is an excellant athlete who could contribute next year .
Chang can play reciever as well , I would like to see the offense do something to get the ball to both Chang and Williamson for that matter in space near the line of scrimmage besides on regular rushing plays may be some short throws and traditional screens and may be creative flips and shovel passes , not just the staple Bubble screens. Both those kids are very shifty , Williamson is about 25-30 pounds heavier than Chang, so if healthy he is the workhorse rushing the ball , but Chang needs to be utilized in space , he is small but very shifty and slippery , he can get the crucial 5-10 yard gains in key spots by making people miss.
Hisey could be an interesting Soph to watch as a reciever , Walsh's running ability is excellant adn is a big key and hard to conmtrol at times , but ideally you don't want him running all the time for obvious reasons
HD has only 6 returning lettermen who aren't kickers, but if they're as good as the parents of the juniors-to-be are confident, they'll win the region.
Darby will be solid but until the can "walk the walk" and win a game against a team with a playoff pedigree, I am not sold on them.
Understandable. It took a win over UA in 2010 to put the Panthers in the playoffs. UA didn't make the playoffs in '10, but finished with a 6-4 record and consistently contends for the playoffs. 12008 was the most recent year that Darby beat a team that made the playoffs (Dublin Jerome).
"Playoff pedigree" teams on this year's schedule include Davidson and Westerville South. Toledo St. John's consistently posts a winning record and has a couple of playoff appearances in the last 5 years or so. Darby will need to win at least one of those three (maybe two) and hold serve against the rest of the schedule to contend for the playoffs.
Troy has some good young athletes and will have an inexperienced QB. I think they benefit from a weak schedule. I wouldnt count out a 6-4 or 7-3 season. They have a good RB who did not play last year in Freddy Whitson and also a track guy Miles Hibbler who wlll also play a lot of RB and maybe WR. Also some stud lineman led by future high division 1 player Alex Dalton. Dalton is already on the radar of many of the high profile colleges and will only be a Junior. While they do have a new coach, he has been in the system for a while and knows it inside and out. I look for them to open it up a little bit more, as coach Nolan was a ground and pound Wing T coach. Not sure about Springfield.
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