Reserve has a lot coming back, especially at quarterback and the o-line. If they didn't, they wouldn't have scheduled Cuyahoga Heights and Malvern to start the season.
Just curious, the MJ has a story today about the United board authorizing their admins to look at leaving the league. In the story it says at least 6 other current schools are looking at the same option but were not named because their boards haven't taken any action yet. Anybody have any inside info on this or any thoughts as to what may happen? My guess would be most of the original TCL teams (not including Sebring) would be included in that group of 6 others.
Just curious, the MJ has a story today about the United board authorizing their admins to look at leaving the league. In the story it says at least 6 other current schools are looking at the same option but were not named because their boards haven't taken any action yet. Anybody have any inside info on this or any thoughts as to what may happen? My guess would be most of the original TCL teams (not including Sebring) would be included in that group of 6 others.
I thought it was very interesting to see this in the paper too. From what I am hearing, with JM leaving, the rest of the league cannot come to an agreement on what team, if any, should replace them.
In my opinion which doesn't count for much, I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of the ITCL as we know it.
What a crock! United wouldn't have made the football playoffs if it wasn't for the ITCL and then for their administration to complain about the league is incredible! I can understand the Lower Tier schools complaining about travel, but the Upper Tier has a pretty good set-up. The league isn't perfect, but it is a heck of a lot better than anything else out there.
who is matt seitz...and why is he the best quarterback in the league?
Seitz is an excellent young basketball player for the Blue Devils. However he is just a sophomore, and I disagree with bluedevil41 that he would be the BEST QB in the league. He is very athletic, but he will need a season to "mature" into the position. Besides, I think Rusinowski might have something to say about who is the Blue Devils starting QB in 2012.
Seitz is an excellent young basketball player for the Blue Devils. However he is just a sophomore, and I disagree with bluedevil41 that he would be the BEST QB in the league. He is very athletic, but he will need a season to "mature" into the position. Besides, I think Rusinowski might have something to say about who is the Blue Devils starting QB in 2012.
Best qb in the lower tier will be Luke Griffith from Southern Local. Outstanding passer and very much the leader of the team.
What a crock! United wouldn't have made the football playoffs if it wasn't for the ITCL and then for their administration to complain about the league is incredible! I can understand the Lower Tier schools complaining about travel, but the Upper Tier has a pretty good set-up. The league isn't perfect, but it is a heck of a lot better than anything else out there.
Make room for Beaver Local? You cannot say that the ITCL helped United into the playoffs, East Palestine made them as D4 with a D5- D6 schedule in '02. So I believe your point is moot.
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Make room for Beaver Local? You cannot say that the ITCL helped United into the playoffs, East Palestine made them as D4 with a D5- D6 schedule in '02. So I believe your point is moot.
Good point bulldog. I for one have never really cared too much for the current setup, and would be quite happy to see the old leagues restored. The whole concept of the tiers just creates a whole lot of problems IMO and doesn't produce the benefit many thought it would. Remember, the old TCL tried splitting into divisions once before, and it didn't last very long. I highly doubt you would have seen much of a difference as far as # of teams making the playoffs under the old two leagues as have under the new league.
I actually like how the two leagues came together and set up two tiers due to enrollments? what is the problem? what don't people like about it? Isn't United D4 - do they really miss playing D6 teams? I am not attacking United. I just don't understand what people dont like about the deal. Seems like things were highly competitive. Can anyone explain this?
To be fair, I don't live in the area anymore, but I've never liked the ITCL setup. It's just always felt forced to me, and I think too many of the old rivalries and traditions were sacrificed for something that honestly doesn't produce the benefit everyone thought it would. The league was formed to produce more harbin points, and IMO, the benefit just isn't there. The old TCL and ICL were competitive leagues too, so the merger didn't have to happen for that reason, and, as I already said, I don't think any more or less teams would have made the playoffs under the current system vs. the old leagues. Call me a traditionalist or a sentimental fool, but I miss the old TCL. It's just one man's and TCL alum's opinion, but bigger is not always better.
In summation, it is time to ressurrect the old TCL with C-view, Range, Columbiana, Springfield, Lisbon, East Palestine, Southern and bring in Beaver Local since United wants out!
Just my opinion.
I actually like how the two leagues came together and set up two tiers due to enrollments? what is the problem? what don't people like about it? Isn't United D4 - do they really miss playing D6 teams? I am not attacking United. I just don't understand what people dont like about the deal. Seems like things were highly competitive. Can anyone explain this?
United is barely a D5, almost D6........Sooooo, if any schools do reach D4 again, it will be: Range or East Palestine, the two largest D5 in the upper. Quite frankly, Range will hit D4 with the location of their new campus just south of Canfield. Look for some defectors from Cardinal land.
To be fair, I don't live in the area anymore, but I've never liked the ITCL setup. It's just always felt forced to me, and I think too many of the old rivalries and traditions were sacrificed for something that honestly doesn't produce the benefit everyone thought it would. The league was formed to produce more harbin points, and IMO, the benefit just isn't there. The old TCL and ICL were competitive leagues too, so the merger didn't have to happen for that reason, and, as I already said, I don't think any more or less teams would have made the playoffs under the current system vs. the old leagues. Call me a traditionalist or a sentimental fool, but I miss the old TCL. It's just one man's and TCL alum's opinion, but bigger is not always better.
From 1994 (when playoffs expanded to six divisions) to 2005 there were 35 teams from the ICL and TCL combined to qualify (2.9 per year).
In the seven years of the ITCL, 30 teams have qualifed, an average of 4.3 per year.
Just throwing it out there.
From 1994 (when playoffs expanded to six divisions) to 2005 there were 35 teams from the ICL and TCL combined to qualify (2.9 per year).
In the seven years of the ITCL, 30 teams have qualifed, an average of 4.3 per year.
Just throwing it out there.
Yes, but from '94-'00 (I think), only 4 teams per region made the playoffs as opposed to the 8 now. I could be wrong on the year, but I believe the change came in 2001.
Gotcha - it was 1999 when they expanded to eight (I also had a miscalculation above) ...
From 1999-2005 (7 years) there were 26 qualifiers (3.7 per year)
From 2006-2011 (6 years) there have been 30 qualifiers (5.0 per year)
In today's Review, BL officially is getting out of the AAC because [there were concerns from parents and some coaches regarding their teams' readiness to face such challenging adversaries. "We didn't think we were ready for the division we were put in," he said.]
In today's Review, BL officially is getting out of the AAC because [there were concerns from parents and some coaches regarding their teams' readiness to face such challenging adversaries. "We didn't think we were ready for the division we were put in," he said.]
Press Release from the ITCL Commissioner. Kind of sounds like the United principal was stating his own personal agenda and not the league.
I think the Crestview, and South Range wouldn't mind Beaver Local in the league. Not sure how some of the smaller schools in the Upper Tier would feel about that.
Make room for Beaver Local? You cannot say that the ITCL helped United into the playoffs, East Palestine made them as D4 with a D5- D6 schedule in '02. So I believe your point is moot.
And it took an exceptionally good Bulldog team to make it that year, a 9-1 record in a strong 2002 TCL. How many times did United have winning records and make the playoffs in the TCL? None. Yet they go 7-3 in 2010 and make it.
And it took an exceptionally good Bulldog team to make it that year, a 9-1 record in a strong 2002 TCL. How many times did United have winning records and make the playoffs in the TCL? None. Yet they go 7-3 in 2010 and make it.
Please tell me who the strong teams were back then since you know so much.
Please tell me who the strong teams were back then since you know so much.
I try to give your Bulldogs credit and you want to dis-credit them.
I know Dewe (sp?) broke his ankle that year, Jordan Reynolds was a Fresh. or Soph, so Crestview only won one or two games. But if I reremeber right, Leetonia went to the playoffs, and Columbiana and Lisbon both had winning records, and battled for league and playoff spots. Was it MAC strong, no. Was it a strong year for the TCL, in my opinion I think so.
I try to give your Bulldogs credit and you want to dis-credit them.
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