All of those coaches listed got booted to the curb. Incredible to me that Coach O did it. Oh, well, I think there is going to be a hard time at for next year, and maybe for the next few if Coach O cannot get some guys in there. Anyone know who he is bringing in, other than O'Neil? Truth be told, I like O'Neil as a guy, but I am not certain as to how much he will bring to the staff over there. I mean, he never had much success where ever he's been, but that it not always indicative of how things always are.
All of those coaches listed got booted to the curb. Incredible to me that Coach O did it. Oh, well, I think there is going to be a hard time at for next year, and maybe for the next few if Coach O cannot get some guys in there. Anyone know who he is bringing in, other than O'Neil? Truth be told, I like O'Neil as a guy, but I am not certain as to how much he will bring to the staff over there. I mean, he never had much success where ever he's been, but that it not always indicative of how things always are.
It's really hard to coach high school compared to grade school. You almost have to be a teacher, own a business, or work a crazy shift with work. 9-5 is not going to cut it compared to Pee Wee or CYO.
No offense but if you are any City Series coach (like O'Neil), you won't do well unless if you are Buchtel. You know deep inside as a head coach at any other school your best players are transferring to Buchtel next year.
Just wondering here on this schedule do you anticipate to be the toughest to win?
Since the 05 season and other than Mooney in 06/07, Lake Catholic is always the toughest game to win all season. Rivalry games are always tough as well.
Jones is the one left? I guess that is what we should expect from Hoban these days. Fire the good coaches and keep the clown, unbelievable.
Well rumor has it they kept Jones because he has the money. I believe he and his wife are attorneys. I was told this happened because the AD is also in charge of getting money for the school. Can this be true? If so why would a school put the same person in those positions? Seems like it will cause problems. Talk about "pay to play"
I don't buy your argument, DB4. While Buchtel does have carte-blanche to do whatever it wants within the City Series like recruit, have practice all spring and summer while calling it a flag football camp, which is still agaisnt OHSAA rules, I believe many schools can still compete, and do.
As for Hoban, it has always been about money there, and always will be. They need the money to get the athletes from Akron to go there because they cannot usually afford the tuition, so the alums pay for it. And don't tell me that if McMullin or Hawkins was a chess player or a tennis player they would have been at Hoban. Heck, McMullin basically lived at a football coach's house for his first 2-3 years there, if not longer.
I hope for the best--but Im seeing only 3-4 wins with this schedule. Kent will be very good-I heard Hoban will have stud QB from Hudson on frosh team so maybe future is bright?
I don't buy your argument, DB4. While Buchtel does have carte-blanche to do whatever it wants within the City Series like recruit, have practice all spring and summer while calling it a flag football camp, which is still agaisnt OHSAA rules, I believe many schools can still compete, and do.
As for Hoban, it has always been about money there, and always will be. They need the money to get the athletes from Akron to go there because they cannot usually afford the tuition, so the alums pay for it. And don't tell me that if McMullin or Hawkins was a chess player or a tennis player they would have been at Hoban. Heck, McMullin basically lived at a football coach's house for his first 2-3 years there, if not longer.
Any private school it is about money, otherwise the school shuts down and the only existance of the school will be in T shirt form. You can see what is going on with some of the private schools that are close to being toast.
Here is why schools like Xavier, Moeller, Iggy, Eds, LaSalle, and Elder will never shut down because they follow these principles:
Academics + Athletics + alumni donations + people in the stands + enrollment = money and survival
It looks like 3 or 4 NCL teams might be in the playoffs this year. I can bet Lake Catholic, and Walsh will be in. Do you guys think NDCL will get in this year? It's been a few years for them and they return a lot.
I honestly think Hoban could be in playoff contention if they play with unity of purpose. I suspect that having a new group of coaches will bring forth unity since they are all starting out in the same boat. Also, I imagine that having new coordinators on offense and defense will lead to new schemes better tailored for the present talent - having new eyes to see things should help. Also, with installing new systems, things tend toward simplicity of scheme and also with better teaching of the whys and hows involved. I hope this allows the players to play smart, quickly, and effectively. Basically, keeping things simple eliminates mistakes and teaching properly will allow the players to play confidently. I see some good things. And even though I was opposed to such wholesale changes, I now can look past my gut emotion in order to find much potential for success. Recall, that during Hoban's playoff run the offense and defense were pretty simple and standard with intelligent wrinkles thrown in week to week and exceptional unity was within the program.
Not to intrude, but why does Buchtel's name keep getting used in comparison when the word "recruit" is thrown around. Is everyone gonna keep ignoring the fact, Norton's quaterback just transferred to Firestone, but he is still residing at the same address! Of course it was all on the up and up because that is the pristine Firestone run by the great Tim Flossie!
Well, the reason Buchtel keeps coming up is because it happens year anfter year anfter year at Buchtel. Yes, a QB has supposedly transferred to Firestone, but we had 5 players trying ot ILLEGALLY go to Buchtel last year (and for Powers to say he didn't even know who any of them were, like McGuiness, sp., is a total LIE because everyone in the city knew who that rb was), had a player transfer back to Buchtel the year before that after he was a discipline transfer out for abuse of a teacher 2 years prior to that, and the list goes on. King Ricky said he was going to clean up the program and the bad rap it had from when CB was there, but it hasn't changed. THOSE are just a few of the reasons that Buchtel's name keeps coming up on threads when recruiting gets brought up.
Now, back to the topic.....I look for Hoban to win 3 games. I do not know which 3 they will be, but I see tham getting 300% better than last year!
Truth be told, every school in the state gets transfers, but whenever Buchtel gets them they are referred to as "recruits". Stain, i get it now(sarcasm). Now back to the topic: Hoban isn't going anywhere with that murderous schedule! Unless they have a fair amount of new "transfers" to go with those new coaches.....
HEck, Buck, one of the 2 DE's only played in barely 1 game last year before hgot hurt. The other one hardly ever started the year playing in the first game of the year because he was always dinged up, so I don't think that them losing 2 D1 DE's has anything to do with their supposed improvement on D. I am actually surprised that they have fallen as hard as they have, sonsidering the numbers and the athletes they have in the building at a private school.
I do think that they could grab 3 wins this year. Once again, though, do not ask me which ones they might be. Just know that there wil probably be 3.
HEck, Buck, one of the 2 DE's only played in barely 1 game last year before hgot hurt. The other one hardly ever started the year playing in the first game of the year because he was always dinged up, so I don't think that them losing 2 D1 DE's has anything to do with their supposed improvement on D. I am actually surprised that they have fallen as hard as they have, sonsidering the numbers and the athletes they have in the building at a private school.
I do think that they could grab 3 wins this year. Once again, though, do not ask me which ones they might be. Just know that there wil probably be 3.
That one D1 player who played all season was a load and offensive coaches had to account for him on just about any play. Trying to replace him will be just about impossible. To tell the truth, thought Hoban's D last year was pretty darn good.
ANd, the 1 D1 player that played all season was not the better of the 2. Hawkins is a much better player. He never takes plays off, he is total hustle from whistle to whistle and doesn't need to be babysitted.
The majority of 2011 starters were underclassmen, and I figure they will be ready for 2012. Not sure what the talk of upcoming young players is about since I suspect many starters this year will be returning starters (but with new coaches and new eyes all players will be getting a fair scrutiny).
Right now, the only thing on the radar is week one - Kent Roosevelt. And no doubt Jones and Corrigall have access to a lot of film on the Rough Riders; defense will be prepared. I'm sure the offense will be much improved. Why are people so negative towards the new OC when no one has seen what he'll be doing with Hoban's squad?
More importantly, I think that team unity will be what drives the potential for success (which could include playoffs - but one week at a time). Starting out the season with a win in week one will be key.
The majority of 2011 starters were underclassmen, and I figure they will be ready for 2012. Not sure what the talk of upcoming young players is about since I suspect many starters this year will be returning starters (but with new coaches and new eyes all players will be getting a fair scrutiny).
Right now, the only thing on the radar is week one - Kent Roosevelt. And no doubt Jones and Corrigall have access to a lot of film on the Rough Riders; defense will be prepared. I'm sure the offense will be much improved. Why are people so negative towards the new OC when no one has seen what he'll be doing with Hoban's squad?
More importantly, I think that team unity will be what drives the potential for success (which could include playoffs - but one week at a time). Starting out the season with a win in week one will be key.
Kent Roosevelt is a true test. Only reason they are playing Hoban, is that they are confident they will beat Hoban. They will want to return the favor after the last 2001 31-0 win for the Knights in their house. Believe me, if they want to run up the score and have the opportunity to do it, they will. This time will be one of the easier teams on Hoban's schedule, but they will be a possible regional final team....yes, I'm saying Hoban's schedule is that nasty.
Surprises me that they will come and play Fitch and Boardman but refuse to play Mooney
No offense to Hoban but I'd rather Boardman was playing Ursuline. Bigger draw with local opponent , somewhat of a rivalry from svc days, and more possible computer points most years. Also With Boardman being in the Stark county based Federal League they should be looking at local opponents as much as possible. I'd be fine with Fitch, Mooney, Ursuline, and Harding every year non conference. And I think those schools would be up for it, assuming no scheduling issues.
But if we have to look outside the Ytown area for games Hoban isn't a bad choice. They've been a good opponent and no complaints on their fan base. I'll be pulling for them every weak except week 3.
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