I usually kick this off on New Years Eve, but I will have to start early because the Herbies of today are just out of control. Herb, once you get your pool pass at the school, let us all know and you can kick off a St.Edward thread.
Now herbs and alums, people of all ages, your Big Green Machine thread for the 2012 St.Edward football season has officially been started.
I am going to have Yappi send the 2011 thread to the Yappi Archives where it will give St.Edward 8 of the top 10 viewed threads in Yappi History.
Offensive line?
Defensive line?
Running backs all returning
Wide receivers few returning but really good athletes coming up next Year
Quarterback Returning.With Shurmur in the waiting
Defensive backs Loaded and Stacked up behind them
Linebackers Loaded and with off season workouts should be Stacked
Fri 8/24 7:30PM vs Glenville (@ Lakewood, for now?)
Week 2 Open
Week 3 Open (Schedule still say Bedford)
Week 4 Open (Don Bosco should be here, but not sure)
Sat 9/22 7PM @ Elder
Sat 9/29 7PM vs. Ursuline
Sat 10/6 7PM vs. Cardinal Mooney (may be a road game?)
Sat 10/13 2PM vs. St. Xavier
Sat 10/20 2PM @ Archbishop Moeller
Sat 10/27 7PM @ St. Ignatius
Going forward, we will really struggle in 2012 putting together acceptable offensive and defensive lines. The kids just aren't there to plug in. It's going to take some work.
There are a couple kids returning, but after three years of high quality line play on both sides of the ball, outside of those returning, the well is now dry.
Football is a major commitment. A lot of kids are playing other sports. In addition, the academic demands at St. Edward are not chopped liver. Especially with Dr. Good now on staff. And as a parent of a student I'm not complaining. St Edward academic demands are increasing at a rigorous pace. And that's a good thing.
I look at kids like Hamilton playing basketball or McNamara playing rugby and realize they would be dominate football players, but they are excelling in another sport that they love. This is a major problem for the St. Ed football program. More and more, kids are looking at "other" sports and enjoying those sports at the expense of football. Why? Because football requires the biggest commitment in time and training of all sports. Senior John Webb is going to play rugby this spring and they should be a dominate team. There are four or five kids on that rugby team that would have started at football had they played. The rugby program clearly has some of the better athletes. That's just the way it is.
Certainly, if they can find three decent linemen on "D" and go to a 3-5-3 that will compliment their talent, they'll be ok. On "O" they need to find five guys that can block long enough to get the ball in the hands of the many playmakers they have coming back.
This assumes these coaches figure out that they have to move into the 21st century with their "O". Time will tell if they figure it out.
Just relax about the line thing already. We were blessed with some prolific guys the last two years. However, it's also possible to win with a bunch of 6-2, 220 pound lineman.
While maybe there's the occasional kid who doesn't play football who could, it's not a big deal, and it's the same everywhere. Baseball coaches want their kids playing fall and summer leagues. Basketball coaches want their kids playing AAU in the spring and summer. Hockey and wrestling kids are both nuts in their own ways. Pretty much any sport at the highest level takes almost year round participation.
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Going forward, we will really struggle in 2012 putting together acceptable offensive and defensive lines. The kids just aren't there to plug in. It's going to take some work.
There are a couple kids returning, but after three years of high quality line play on both sides of the ball, outside of those returning, the well is now dry.
Football is a major commitment. A lot of kids are playing other sports. In addition, the academic demands at St. Edward are not chopped liver. Especially with Dr. Good now on staff. And as a parent of a student I'm not complaining. St Edward academic demands are increasing at a rigorous pace. And that's a good thing.
I look at kids like Hamilton playing basketball or McNamara playing rugby and realize they would be dominate football players, but they are excelling in another sport that they love. This is a major problem for the St. Ed football program. More and more, kids are looking at "other" sports and enjoying those sports at the expense of football. Why? Because football requires the biggest commitment in time and training of all sports. Senior John Webb is going to play rugby this spring and they should be a dominate team. There are four or five kids on that rugby team that would have started at football had they played. The rugby program clearly has some of the better athletes. That's just the way it is.
Certainly, if they can find three decent linemen on "D" and go to a 3-5-3 that will compliment their talent, they'll be ok. On "O" they need to find five guys that can block long enough to get the ball in the hands of the many playmakers they have coming back.
This assumes these coaches figure out that they have to move into the 21st century with their "O". Time will tell if they figure it out.
Boone Signs Extension Through 2015
Posted by Alex Espinoza on December 8, 2011 – 6:30 PM
The San Francisco 49ers today announced they have signed T Alex Boone to a contract extension through the 2015 season.
“We are very pleased with the progress that Alex has made since joining the team in 2009,” said General Manager Trent Baalke. “He really is a great example of what hard work, dedication and focus can do to further a young player’s career. The 49ers are very happy for Alex and look forward to him capitalizing on this opportunity.”
Boone (6-8, 300) was originally signed by the 49ers as an undrafted free agent in April of 2009, and went on to spend the entire season on San Francisco’s practice squad. In 2010, he made the opening day 53-man roster and was inactive for the first 15 games before making his NFL debut vs. Arizona (1/2/11). This season, Boone has played in all 12 games, seeing action in short-yardage situations and on special teams.
A 24-year old native of Lakewood, OH, Boone starred collegiately at Ohio State, where he earned All-America honors as a senior. He played in 46 games (33 starts) and was a two-time All-Big Ten selection.
And he'd look real good on the Browns right side, but of course, like so many others, he wasn't good enough to play in Cleveland.
Just relax about the line thing already. We were blessed with some prolific guys the last two years. However, it's also possible to win with a bunch of 6-2, 220 pound lineman.
While maybe there's the occasional kid who doesn't play football who could, it's not a big deal, and it's the same everywhere. Baseball coaches want their kids playing fall and summer leagues. Basketball coaches want their kids playing AAU in the spring and summer. Hockey and wrestling kids are both nuts in their own ways. Pretty much any sport at the highest level takes almost year round participation.
The point is this isn't kids being told "you can't play (whatever) if you want to play football. It's kids saying I'm not playing football because I've decided to play... (name the sport). Big difference. Times are changing.
Boone Signs Extension Through 2015
Posted by Alex Espinoza on December 8, 2011 – 6:30 PM
The San Francisco 49ers today announced they have signed T Alex Boone to a contract extension through the 2015 season.
“We are very pleased with the progress that Alex has made since joining the team in 2009,” said General Manager Trent Baalke. “He really is a great example of what hard work, dedication and focus can do to further a young player’s career. The 49ers are very happy for Alex and look forward to him capitalizing on this opportunity.”
Boone (6-8, 300) was originally signed by the 49ers as an undrafted free agent in April of 2009, and went on to spend the entire season on San Francisco’s practice squad. In 2010, he made the opening day 53-man roster and was inactive for the first 15 games before making his NFL debut vs. Arizona (1/2/11). This season, Boone has played in all 12 games, seeing action in short-yardage situations and on special teams.
A 24-year old native of Lakewood, OH, Boone starred collegiately at Ohio State, where he earned All-America honors as a senior. He played in 46 games (33 starts) and was a two-time All-Big Ten selection.
And he'd look real good on the Browns right side, but of course, like so many others, he wasn't good enough to play in Cleveland.
Congratulations to Alex Boone. He probably didn't have too many people left on his bandwagon when he was having all those problems. Think of what this means...pension, the opportunity to bank a small fortune. And, really, he deserves all the credit for growing up. Change (for anyone) isn't easy. A great story.
And, I think that's a reasonable decision for a lot of kids. 30 kids out of 100 plus 10-12th graders get significant minutes in football. There's a a lot of good athletes who don't get to see the field at good football schools.
And don't diminish the effect the coaches in other sports have in the decision making process.
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The point is this isn't kids being told "you can't play (whatever) if you want to play football. It's kids saying I'm not playing football because I've decided to play... (name the sport). Big difference. Times are changing.
I suppose I'll re-post this in the "official" 2012 thread...
I'll be interested to see how the staff adjusts to their strengths for next season. Unlike these past two years where we have been blessed with dominating offensive and defensive fronts, the bulk of the returning talent for 2012 will be in the offensive and defensive backfields. I don't recall too many underclassman lineman logging many varsity minutes other than sophomore defensive lineman Tyler King. There were a couple sizeable underclassman o-lineman on the varsity roster: sophomores Gage Blair (6'2, 250) and Jackson Kirby (6'2, 300). Lets hope that coach Conochan can chisel these guys into specimens after another year in the weight room.
If I recall correctly, coach Finotti ran the 3-3-5 when he was at Mayfield which catered to his undersized, but speedy personnel. When he came here he went to the 4-3 given the number of quality defensive lineman we had. Is it possible we see a return to the 3-3-5 (or a similar look) with the number of quality DB's we will have next year? I'd like to see Abounader, Warfield, Thomas, Clark, and Crawford all on the field. Abounader seems like the perfect player to be that extra defensive back who is physical enough to offer run support in the box and athletic enough to drop into coverage.
Offensively, the competition between the incumbent Fallon and the "super sophomore" Shurmur should be interesting. We also return two solid backs in Aaron and Butler. Young will be our lead returning receiver, and with some polish on his route running could be very lethal. I also think we need to find ways to get the ball in the hands of Shaun Crawford on offense. The kid is electric. I'm sure he will at least be returning kicks and punts along with Young.
Tim Warsinskey, The Plain Dealer, December 16, 2011
Q: Hey, Tim: With all the talk of Ohio State getting football recruits who were supposed to go to other schools, what about the one who got away? What about Kyle Kalis? Is he still going to Michigan?
— Laura David, Lakewood
A: Hey, Laura: As was the case on the field all season, the St. Edward offensive tackle hasn’t budged in his commitment to the Wolverines. Kalis (6-5, 304) committed to Ohio State earlier this year, but de-committed when Jim Tressel was fired. It’s not as though Ohio State hasn’t tried to get him back. Incoming coach Urban Meyer called Kalis the day he got the job last month, and current coach Luke Fickell called, too. Kalis took the calls, but didn’t back off his commitment to Michigan, didn’t agree to meet with Meyer or schedule a visit to Columbus. Some wonder if Michigan backing off Brush end Pharaoh Brown after the former Wolverines commitment visited Oregon recently was a shot across the bow to Kalis, warning him not to look elsewhere. But Kalis is Michigan’s only current five-star recruit, and as such, if he were to visit another school, I doubt very much the Wolverines would be foolish enough to pull the scholarship offer. If he stays healthy, Kalis has a chance to be a mainstay on Michigan’s line for three or four years.
Interesting article on Kalis. I wish him well at UM... that is until they play OSU.
Re our Eagles, I am very encouraged by what could be in 2012. The young Eagles appear to be working hard in the off season and one year of maturity could help this "skilled player" laden team fair well next season.
This upcoming year would have been one where I wish the schedule was a "tad" easier to navigate. Going against 7-8 state ranked teams (regardless of Division) each season is very difficult. Prepared well because of the same...yes. But nonetheless difficult!
Going forward, we will really struggle in 2012 putting together acceptable offensive and defensive lines. The kids just aren't there to plug in. It's going to take some work.
There are a couple kids returning, but after three years of high quality line play on both sides of the ball, outside of those returning, the well is now dry.
Football is a major commitment. A lot of kids are playing other sports. In addition, the academic demands at St. Edward are not chopped liver. Especially with Dr. Good now on staff. And as a parent of a student I'm not complaining. St Edward academic demands are increasing at a rigorous pace. And that's a good thing.
I look at kids like Hamilton playing basketball or McNamara playing rugby and realize they would be dominate football players, but they are excelling in another sport that they love. This is a major problem for the St. Ed football program. More and more, kids are looking at "other" sports and enjoying those sports at the expense of football. Why? Because football requires the biggest commitment in time and training of all sports. Senior John Webb is going to play rugby this spring and they should be a dominate team. There are four or five kids on that rugby team that would have started at football had they played. The rugby program clearly has some of the better athletes. That's just the way it is.
Certainly, if they can find three decent linemen on "D" and go to a 3-5-3 that will compliment their talent, they'll be ok. On "O" they need to find five guys that can block long enough to get the ball in the hands of the many playmakers they have coming back.
This assumes these coaches figure out that they have to move into the 21st century with their "O". Time will tell if they figure it out.
D'amico mcnamara thomas and tennant would have beneficial additions to the team this fall. they would have been the difference between losing in the regional finals and winning the state championship this season. rugby team vs. football team atlantic city, Tajma Hall
D'amico mcnamara thomas and tennant would have beneficial additions to the team this fall. they would have been the difference between losing in the regional finals and winning the state championship this season. rugby team vs. football team atlantic city, Tajma Hall
Losing in the regional semi-finals. If you can't win with the talent you guys had this year than you just can't win. I don't think kids choosing rugby over football had that much of an effect on the outcome of this years football team. What'd you have 7...8 D-I recruits this year?
Losing in the regional semi-finals. If you can't win with the talent you guys had this year than you just can't win.
Well, we know that's not true.
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I don't think kids choosing rugby over football had that much of an effect on the outcome of this years football team. What'd you have 7...8 D-I recruits this year?
I believe 6 from the senior class will sign D1 scholarships.
I love watching st eds play. They beat us the last two years but I think it will be a better game this year. Plus we will be probably be at home which we weren't for the past two games. The player I can't wait to see is #51 the linebacker. He delivers some pretty hard hits
Tim Warsinskey, The Plain Dealer, December 16, 2011
Q: Hey, Tim: With all the talk of Ohio State getting football recruits who were supposed to go to other schools, what about the one who got away? What about Kyle Kalis? Is he still going to Michigan?
— Laura David, Lakewood
A: Hey, Laura: As was the case on the field all season, the St. Edward offensive tackle hasn’t budged in his commitment to the Wolverines. Kalis (6-5, 304) committed to Ohio State earlier this year, but de-committed when Jim Tressel was fired. It’s not as though Ohio State hasn’t tried to get him back. Incoming coach Urban Meyer called Kalis the day he got the job last month, and current coach Luke Fickell called, too. Kalis took the calls, but didn’t back off his commitment to Michigan, didn’t agree to meet with Meyer or schedule a visit to Columbus. Some wonder if Michigan backing off Brush end Pharaoh Brown after the former Wolverines commitment visited Oregon recently was a shot across the bow to Kalis, warning him not to look elsewhere. But Kalis is Michigan’s only current five-star recruit, and as such, if he were to visit another school, I doubt very much the Wolverines would be foolish enough to pull the scholarship offer. If he stays healthy, Kalis has a chance to be a mainstay on Michigan’s line for three or four years.
I saw Kalis play in three games this year and I feel the hype about this young man was not accurate. Maybe I didnt see his best games, not sure but I was not impressed. To hear that Michigan landed him after he was once commited to Ohio State only shouts volumes about this player. If he once again flips loyalty and comes back to the bucks... I really dont think he is a player I would want.
Not coming from a Ed's or OSU/Mich perspective, he sure looked great against us. Congrats to Kalis and I am glad we won't be seeing him this year when we play St. Ed's.
Don't worry. He's not coming back to the Bucks. Even if he wanted to, ignorant redneck OSU fan did a good job of removing that as an option given the slander he and his family has had to put up with over a kids personal life-altering decision. Plus, it's hard to blame a kid for questioning Ohio State given all of the nonsense that has gone on over the last 18 months. Also, just because a kid lives in Ohio doesn't make them the pre-ordained property of TOSU.
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I saw Kalis play in three games this year and I feel the hype about this young man was not accurate. Maybe I didnt see his best games, not sure but I was not impressed. To hear that Michigan landed him after he was once commited to Ohio State only shouts volumes about this player. If he once again flips loyalty and comes back to the bucks... I really dont think he is a player I would want.
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