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Old 11-27-11, 09:18 PM
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Cincinnati St. Xavier Bombers 2012

Now that they're season is over, it can be discussed:

Anyone can jump in and add who they think can step up and fill in all the open spots?

I have only entered 4 players who did not appear on the varsity roster to start the season (Koesterman, Huber, Glines, Hundley). Otherwise, these are all seniors next year besides Frey and Hilliard.

QB:
Kilgore, Mooney, Domhoff, Koesterman, Tensing, Huber

RB:
Hilliard, Glines, Dunn, Merchant, Murphy, Nutt, Rudy

WR/TE
Bowman, Brinkmann, Burke, Cameron, Carroll, Dunn, Fitzpatrick, Fogarty, Frey, Hart, Huhn, Johnson, Kilgore, King, Milligan, Rankin, Reilly, Sander, Shaw, Zerbe

OL:
Campbell, Grace, Muskopf, Ruter, Wittrock

PK:
Berry

DL:
Birchak, Dorger, Hamad, McCurren, Mersman, O'Toole, Stair, White

LB:
Armbruster, Bruemmer, Caldwell, Hamad, M. Jacob, Lair

DB:
Barrett, Berning, Berry, Brown, Day, Hundley, Iori, J. Jacob, Kroeger, Lair, Pensyl, Reagan, Ries, Schad, Shirk, Trimble, Waddell, York

CB:
Carroll, Fryer

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Old 11-28-11, 08:39 AM
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I think Specht will use some of the oversized sophomores of next year (Frosh) for the O-line, as some of them are already above the 220 mark and stand above 6'1. He'll have to bulk some up on weights and then find useable corners, as only 2 on the varsity return. I'm not sure how big the JV is but can guarantee more than just Frey, Hundley, Hilliard and Carroll will play as juniors.
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Old 11-28-11, 11:12 AM
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I got to figure that Milligan needs to be considered in the QB spot. he looked awefully good running the wildcat at the end of this season - no reason the Bombers can't run more of this next year...
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Old 11-28-11, 11:24 AM
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I think Specht will use some of the oversized sophomores of next year (Frosh) for the O-line, as some of them are already above the 220 mark and stand above 6'1. He'll have to bulk some up on weights and then find useable corners, as only 2 on the varsity return. I'm not sure how big the JV is but can guarantee more than just Frey, Hundley, Hilliard and Carroll will play as juniors.
younger brother?
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Old 11-28-11, 11:27 AM
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younger brother?
Yes
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Old 11-28-11, 02:29 PM
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Yes, Steeler is a little taller and will likely play safety. BB94. I know there are some good guys who will be juniors next year outside of the 4 from this year, but most of the holes will be filled by guys who will be seniors.
I understand Specht would like the more seasoned (have practiced with varsity) players but there may be better guys to fill those spots. Look at the 2006 St. X team. They were 50-60% juniors on that team. Now, that may be the case in 2013 but I'm not going to get ahead of ourselves. My concern is the O-line. As much of a weakness X had in the OL, they now have 4 huge spots to fill. Although they have 5 OL seniors next year, I am certain only one saw any playing time. I believe the defense will be stellar once again with many returners and plenty of potentials for fill-ins.

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Old 11-28-11, 02:59 PM
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Yes, Steeler is a little taller and will likely play safety. BB94. I know there are some good guys who will be juniors next year outside of the 4 from this year, but most of the holes will be filled by guys who will be seniors.
cool...absolutely loved the way Connor (sp?) plays (ed)...if the younger brother is half as tough as the older brother, he'll be just fine. I know Connor Hundley was banged up much, if not all, of this season. I got to see 4 X games this year, and he never, ever, took a play off. Great football player; hope he continues to play somewhere next fall...will enjoy watching the younger one just as well
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Old 11-28-11, 03:11 PM
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I got to figure that Milligan needs to be considered in the QB spot. he looked awefully good running the wildcat at the end of this season - no reason the Bombers can't run more of this next year...
I see Kilgore and Milligan both getting some time in the Wildcat, but I would be very surprised to see either of them as the primary quarterback. Kilgore had a grand total of 12 passes for the year and 34 rushes (which I assume are almost all from Wildcat); I don't think Milligan had any passes. I don't see X going that run-heavy on offense.
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Old 11-28-11, 04:48 PM
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Agreed. I think Milligan threw the ball once or twice last year on end-around passes. I seem to recall a big TD toss at some point?? The kid has an awefully fast 1st step...
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Old 11-29-11, 06:48 AM
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Agreed. I think Milligan threw the ball once or twice last year on end-around passes. I seem to recall a big TD toss at some point?? The kid has an awefully fast 1st step...
Danny and Kevin are both very elusive.
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Old 11-29-11, 09:57 AM
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I think Specht will use some of the oversized sophomores of next year (Frosh) for the O-line, as some of them are already above the 220 mark and stand above 6'1. He'll have to bulk some up on weights and then find useable corners, as only 2 on the varsity return. I'm not sure how big the JV is but can guarantee more than just Frey, Hundley, Hilliard and Carroll will play as juniors.
Keep an eye on John Bergman to compete for a spot on the OL. He will be a Soph next year and was one of the 4 Frosh called up to Varsity this year. He stood out this year.
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Old 11-29-11, 10:13 AM
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Cole Jones will compete for the middle linebacker position. He's pushing 200 pounds and will be a Soph next year. Good combination of speed and strength. Earned a starting spot on special teams after call up to Varsity.
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Old 11-29-11, 08:02 PM
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Now that they're season is over, it can be discussed:

Anyone can jump in and add who they think can step up and fill in all the open spots?

I have only entered 4 players who did not appear on the varsity roster to start the season (Koesterman, Huber, Glines, Hundley). Otherwise, these are all seniors next year besides Frey and Hilliard.

QB:
Kilgore, Mooney, Domhoff, Koesterman (sp?), Huber

RB:
Hilliard, Glines, Dunn, Merchant, Murphy, Nutt, Rudy

WR/TE
Bowman, Brinkmann, Burke, Cameron, Carroll, Dunn, Fitzpatrick, Fogarty, Frey, Hart, Huhn, Johnson, Kilgore, King, Milligan, Rankin, Reilly, Sander, Shaw, Zerbe

OL:
Campbell, Grace, Muskopf, Ruter, Wittrock

PK:
Berry

DL:
Birchak, Dorger, Hamad, McCurren, Mersman, O'Toole, Stair, White
LB:
Armbruster, Bruemmer, Caldwell, Hamad, M. Jacob, Lair

DB:
Barrett, Berning, Berry, Brown, Day, Hundley, Iori, J. Jacob, Kroeger, Lair, Pensyl, Reagan, Ries, Schad, Shirk, Trimble, Waddell, York

CB:
Carroll, Fryer
Look for Tensing at QB and Fovel at linebacker as part of jr class in the mix
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Old 11-30-11, 04:02 PM
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Aside from Huber (QB) and Glines (RB), take a look at the rest of the freshman who might find a spot on varsity next year as sophomores.

Cole Jones LB
5'11, 190 lbs

Jon Bockhorst DL
6'1, 195 lbs

Stephen O'Leary OL
5'11, 200 lbs

Zach Wood OL
6'0, 200 lbs

Simeon Lane DL
6'0, 265 lbs

John Bergmann DL
6'2, 175 lbs
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Old 12-01-11, 06:57 AM
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Rice will start at NT, leaving 1 open spot at DE. I think Brian OToole could join Hamad and Rice on the line, but Im not positive. Just guessin. There is one open LB spot. I wouldn't be surprised to see Glines/Cole Jones join Mark Jacob and Pat Armbruster. I doubt any of these soon-to-be sophomores take a spot on the OL unless they put on 50-60 lbs.
At 265 and probably topping 275 by next year, you don't think Specht will put Rice on the anemic OL? He's bigger than some of the seniors.
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Old 12-01-11, 01:35 PM
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He could, but we need a solid NT
I notice the DL usually doesn't top over 230 very often. Many freshman do not play the same position on varsity. They need good OL and I think he'd be a better fit there IMHO. We shall see where "the anointed one" places him. He'll be put where it benefits the team most no doubt, whether it be OL or DL.
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Old 12-01-11, 11:30 PM
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I understand Specht would like the more seasoned (have practiced with varsity) players but there may be better guys to fill those spots. Look at the 2006 St. X team. They were 50-60% juniors on that team. Now, that may be the case in 2013 but I'm not going to get ahead of ourselves. My concern is the O-line. As much of a weakness X had in the OL, they now have 4 huge spots to fill. Although they have 5 OL seniors next year, I am certain only one saw any playing time. I believe the defense will be stellar once again with many returners and plenty of potentials for fill-ins.

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Who's coaching OL now? Sully used to be a friggin' magician who squeezed every last drop out of his players. Alspach was good, too, but is he OC now? It's hard to keep tabs being away.

Size is definitely important, but it's as much if not more about coaching and coachability. If next year's team doesn't get good OL play, then they're dead in the water because, while I may be wrong, next year's offense doesn't strike me as ready to air the ball out. Though neither did this year's and Dolle still threw 25+ a game sometimes...
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Old 12-05-11, 06:50 AM
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Who's coaching OL now? Sully used to be a friggin' magician who squeezed every last drop out of his players. Alspach was good, too, but is he OC now? It's hard to keep tabs being away.

Size is definitely important, but it's as much if not more about coaching and coachability. If next year's team doesn't get good OL play, then they're dead in the water because, while I may be wrong, next year's offense doesn't strike me as ready to air the ball out. Though neither did this year's and Dolle still threw 25+ a game sometimes...
I think it'll be Coach Keith. He played OL at X. He's probably the only one capable of taking that position. Banker played QB, TE and LB but I think he coaches the TEs, unless I'm mistaken. I know Keith was sending showing the board to the offense during the playoffs (sometimes late) but he's not OC.
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Old 12-05-11, 07:13 AM
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I think the bigger question is who is going to be the HC?

I know this topic got another thread shut down (not sure why), but seriously, what is the word on Specht and him potentially going to OSU?
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Old 12-05-11, 10:01 AM
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I think the bigger question is who is going to be the HC?

I know this topic got another thread shut down (not sure why), but seriously, what is the word on Specht and him potentially going to OSU?
It got closed because it was just a joke. The guy was obviously kidding. Do you think Specht would really leave St. X with his son being an incoming freshman? Give me a break! Hello! Can you say free tuition for 4 years and saving over $50,000? He won't leave!
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Old 12-05-11, 01:21 PM
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I will reiterate what I had said during the Moeller playoff thread. I sat next to a man whose son will be attending St. X next year with Specht's son. He plays RB and is 6'1, 170 lbs of all boy. This kid looked like a beast when he came and sat down next to his dad. It'll be interesting whether he stays RB or is put on defense if he's as fast as his dad boasted (pulls away from defense and was never caught from behind last year).
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Old 12-05-11, 03:01 PM
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I will reiterate what I had said during the Moeller playoff thread. I sat next to a man whose son will be attending St. X next year with Specht's son. He plays RB and is 6'1, 170 lbs of all boy. This kid looked like a beast when he came and sat down next to his dad. It'll be interesting whether he stays RB or is put on defense if he's as fast as his dad boasted (pulls away from defense and was never caught from behind last year).
It's funny how much of that happens (position switching) during the Freshman year....since you dont see kids playing both ways when they get to high school. Tall QB's end up at TE or OL. Big thick RB's in grade school make excellent LB's in high school etc etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens. He'll get a chance to see where he stands against Colerain and the GCL in his freshman year. It's a whole new level of talent.
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Old 12-05-11, 05:09 PM
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I will reiterate what I had said during the Moeller playoff thread. I sat next to a man whose son will be attending St. X next year with Specht's son. He plays RB and is 6'1, 170 lbs of all boy. This kid looked like a beast when he came and sat down next to his dad. It'll be interesting whether he stays RB or is put on defense if he's as fast as his dad boasted (pulls away from defense and was never caught from behind last year).
I heard he's a lovechild of Deion-Neon? Confirm? Does ESPN have the source?
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Old 12-05-11, 06:35 PM
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I heard he's a lovechild of Deion-Neon? Confirm? Does ESPN have the source?
LOL! Not quite, he's the wrong shade of skin for one!
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Old 12-05-11, 08:22 PM
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If X would ever get a respectable QB and a stud tailback to compliment their always top rank D they would start bringing trophies to SWO, were they should be
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Old 12-05-11, 11:46 PM
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They had both of those this year. Poor decision making by the OC is what did them in.
Give it up.
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Old 12-08-11, 06:57 AM
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Give it up.
It's somewhat true but also Dolle wasn't Hurley or Scherer. He made some poor choices and their O-line was not exactly protecting him. But some really bad play choices were made from the sidelines as well.
PC had a vulnerable secondary, which Iggy took full advantage of. St. X only went to the air about 6-7 times a quarter. More airtime might have helped send them to the bigtime. With the speed of Kilgore and Milligan going long, X could have won. If X's WRs caught with their hands and not their chest, they might have been able to win too. Turnovers also killed X.
Heck, X beat Iggy with their #2 QB and #2 RB for crying out loud, and Iggy took care of PC. But PC came in with something to prove and they did so. I'm not trying to discredit PC's great win, which they earned and deserved by playing great football, but I believe X didn't do what they had done well in the past.

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Old 12-08-11, 10:49 AM
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Looks like 2012 schedule is all set and is identical to 2011. Anyone have a guess as their record? Only about 1/2 their starters return.

Saturday 8/25 7:30PM @ Nippert Crosstown Showdown
Friday 8/31 7:30PM @ Indianapolis Cathedral or Herbie
Friday 9/7 7:30PM vs. Colerain High School
Friday 9/14 7:30PM @ Louisville Trinity High
Friday 9/21 7:30PM vs. Archbishop Moeller
Friday 9/28 7:30PM @ Elder High School
Friday 10/5 7:30PM @ La Salle High School
Saturday 10/13 2:00PM @ St. Edward High School
Saturday 10/20 2:00PM vs. St. Ignatius High School
Friday 10/26 7:30PM vs. Louisville St. Xavier
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Old 12-08-11, 03:22 PM
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It's somewhat true but also Dolle wasn't Hurley or Scherer. He made some poor choices and their O-line was not exactly protecting him. But some really bad play choices were made from the sidelines as well.
PC had a vulnerable secondary, which Iggy took full advantage of. St. X only went to the air about 6-7 times a quarter. More airtime might have helped send them to the bigtime. With the speed of Kilgore and Milligan going long, X could have won. If X's WRs caught with their hands and not their chest, they might have been able to win too. Turnovers also killed X.
Heck, X beat Iggy with their #2 QB and #2 RB for crying out loud, and Iggy took care of PC. But PC came in with something to prove and they did so. I'm not trying to discredit PC's great win, which they earned and deserved by playing great football, but I believe X didn't do what they had done well in the past.
The playing calling may have been a little suspect. However, the players failed to execute the offense primarily in the second half. If the offense had executed properly and they eliminated the dropped balls, misreads, broken assignments , poor blocking, the play calling would have been brilliant. No one stepped up and made a play when X needed it. It was a total offensive team let down. No way x should lose giving up 14 points. Got give credit to Pickerington defense. They played with a lot of heart and effort.
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Old 12-08-11, 08:08 PM
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Looks like 2012 schedule is all set and is identical to 2011. Anyone have a guess as their record? Only about 1/2 their starters return.

Saturday 8/25 7:30PM @ Nippert Crosstown Showdown
Friday 8/31 7:30PM @ Indianapolis Cathedral or Herbie
Friday 9/7 7:30PM vs. Colerain High School
Friday 9/14 7:30PM @ Louisville Trinity High
Friday 9/21 7:30PM vs. Archbishop Moeller
Friday 9/28 7:30PM @ Elder High School
Friday 10/5 7:30PM @ La Salle High School
Saturday 10/13 2:00PM @ St. Edward High School
Saturday 10/20 2:00PM vs. St. Ignatius High School
Friday 10/26 7:30PM vs. Louisville St. Xavier
anyone have final 2011 schedule difficulty rankings? I believe X was top 5 at one point.
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