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Old 01-26-12, 07:30 PM
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Tatum will never be permitted to coach anywhere. He was convicted of a felony. Automatic disqualifier!
Yea - let's hire him as East's coach and Kelly Williams-Bolar can be an assistant coach
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Old 01-26-12, 09:12 PM
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Aren't these the same names that apply for every coaching job that opens in the City?

I'm pretty sure Brophy is done coaching due to the benefits that he's getting from the NFL. My guess is Jake Thompson will be a front runner. He teaches at East CLC in the middle school and would be great with recruiting those students to play football. He's been out of coaching for a year or so working with the Thanks4giving all-star game but I'm sure he would like to get back into coaching.

What other names are people hearing? Are any high schools closing? If so I could see those coaches applying.
No high schools are closing next year per the APS school board pres. If the levy fails look for a high school or 2 to close within the next 3 to 10 years. It looks like North will be first. East, Buchtel and Firestone are all safe and I can't see any way that Ellet would close. The future of a STEM high school is on hold right now.
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Old 01-27-12, 07:09 AM
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Mitchell should get the job but it will go to Flossie or Thompson!
Agreed. Mitchell is the best candidate. Other two are not capable of doing the job, IMHO, and would leave East in worse shape than they found it.
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Old 01-27-12, 08:22 AM
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Another person who would be a good candidate is Marques Hayes. He is a teacher in the building and coached the last two years at East. Akron, why would East get worse if Flossie or Thompson got the job? I don't think either of them have been a head coach before.
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Old 01-27-12, 08:59 AM
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I hope the East job goes to a younger coach. I feel that's what the city really needs right now. The Lacktash kid is doing good things at North right now, let's get some new blood in the districts coaching ranks.
It's going to take someone that is highly motivated to get things turned around at East. A younger guy like Thompson would be perfect for that. Look what he's done to help build the Thanks4giving game. Another young coaches' name that I have been hearing thrown around is Bob Manchester. He's also interviewed for other HC jobs. He's currently DC at North under Laktash. It wil be interesting to see who all applies.
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Old 01-27-12, 09:39 AM
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Thompson seems like a pretty good guy, but I do not think that because the guy worked for the past few years on an al-star game committee qualifies someone as a perfect fit. I do agree that it needs to be a younger guy, but then again, look what Coach Peltz has done at kenmore, and he is no spring chicken!

As for the Tatum comment, I was not sure of his status. I thought he was still teaching in the APS. Must not be, then huh?!
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Old 01-27-12, 12:05 PM
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Gatorade - If they're smart, the Administration will cut all ties with anyone that was on the previous staff.
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Old 01-27-12, 12:44 PM
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1.) No one from the Beasley's staff have a chance. Nor should they.

2.) Thompson and Flossie have been on lots of staffs and neither have been promoted to a coordinator except Thompson getting to call plays for his buddy Brophy at D5 Sebring.

3.) Lets not get excited about anyone on Lacktash's staff or Lacktash yet. He has one win in two years and that one is the reason we are having a conversation about East. This year is their test to see if they have improved.
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Old 01-27-12, 01:18 PM
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I think Flossie has only been on the staffs at Garfield and at Firestone. Thompson, on the other hand, I think he has been with Tim Flossie at Barberton, Central-Hower, and Firestone, and then with Broph at Sebring.
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Old 01-27-12, 01:33 PM
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Flossie has been at Garfield, Firestone, and is currently at Springfield. Thompson has been at St. V with Brophy, Central Hower, Firestone, Revere, back to Firestone, Sebring, and out of coaching.
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Old 01-27-12, 02:57 PM
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EAST coaching job is really difficult. Eligibility is always going to be a problem. In addition, getting commitment from the players is also difficult. the only two people i see being able to do anything at East are Mitchel and Brophy. Thompson and flossie dont stand a chance of being able to turn things around. the kids at East wont even give them a chance. Broph could probably really do some great things because East always has talent, and Broph knows how to talk to kids, he could light a fire under the East Orientals and really make them competitive. I think if Broph really wanted to do it and the administration reached out to him, he could Make East a POWER.

I really thought J Bird did all he could at East. If he could have brought in a few qualified assistants, instead of Joe Butts, and others he might have been able to really do a few things. Bottum line is the penalty fiasco they had this past year and lack of discipline on the sidelines over the past couple of years, probably did east the cookie monster Beasly in! I still love you JBird!
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Old 01-27-12, 03:08 PM
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^^^^

Agreed
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Old 01-28-12, 07:15 AM
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It is a very tough job. I'm not an Eric Mitchell fan. He didn't do much at Brush with players such as Roy Hall. IMHO, East wouldn't change much with him as coach. I think that Thompson would do a good job and have a quality staff.

The Flossie brothers would do well, but I think they are both too busy right now for either of them to be a head coach. I think that they could put together a good staff.
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Old 01-28-12, 10:23 AM
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I think that any of the younoafoaches that were mentioned would do a fine job. Ricky Powers had no coordinator experience and look at the good job he has done at Buchtel. Whether people like it or not Powers coached with Flossie and Brophy before he got his big chance. Flossie and Thompson has coached with Brophy and Tim Flossie for awhile. Who knows if given a fair chance they could get it going over at East. The city needs some new coaching blood and the mentors that these younger coaches come from are good coaches. I'm not saying they are going to be world beaters but at least give them a chance.

Sonil Haslam would be a good candidate as well. I think more importantly he is an East High alum. He has a good coaching background as well. This could get interesting.
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Old 01-30-12, 09:00 AM
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You might as well add Marter to the list too. Most of the names I'm seeing are candidates that have previously applied and/or interviewed for other City jobs. I'm looking forward to see who else applies. Are there any East CLC staff that will apply other than Thompson and Hayes?
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Old 01-30-12, 12:48 PM
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Yes, Marrter may very well apply also. He is a good coach who knows his stuff, my only complaint with him is that he needs to start getting some gray hair. He has to be in his early 50s, and dealing with these city kids for as long as he has, it's amazing he still has hair at all, let alone no gray ones!!He must use some type of hair dye or oil and grease from Chinese food restaurnats to keep that hair as black as it is!
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Old 01-30-12, 02:18 PM
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Old 01-30-12, 02:42 PM
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Yes, Marrter may very well apply also. He is a good coach who knows his stuff, my only complaint with him is that he needs to start getting some gray hair. He has to be in his early 50s, and dealing with these city kids for as long as he has, it's amazing he still has hair at all, let alone no gray ones!!He must use some type of hair dye or oil and grease from Chinese food restaurnats to keep that hair as black as it is!
knows his stuff? Didnt he coach at Kenmore for a couple years and do poorly? I think you need to be serious when you put names out there. Obvously ability to rate koney dogs and there makers dont help pick good coaching canidates.
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Old 01-30-12, 03:05 PM
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Yes, Marrter may very well apply also. He is a good coach who knows his stuff, my only complaint with him is that he needs to start getting some gray hair. He has to be in his early 50s, and dealing with these city kids for as long as he has, it's amazing he still has hair at all, let alone no gray ones!!He must use some type of hair dye or oil and grease from Chinese food restaurnats to keep that hair as black as it is!
Marter is a Great Coach! No one knows more about the game (some may know as much). Any coach that takes the East job must get staff members that are all on the same page. One of the big problems with finding a staff is so many young coaches want to do it their own way. They think they should have autonomy right out of the gate. ANYONE that takes the East job needs to have a staff that is together. Finally, A great coach once told me never take a job where the best you can be is 5-5. I think its gonna take someone really special to make East better than 5-5. If i was on the committee i would reach out to Brophy, if he says no then Mitchell and or Marter. If they all say no then i would look to the Flossies or Thompson, or Haslem. After that i would suggest East drop football because then they would be finished.
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Old 01-30-12, 03:12 PM
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knows his stuff? Didnt he coach at Kenmore for a couple years and do poorly? I think you need to be serious when you put names out there. Obvously ability to rate koney dogs and there makers dont help pick good coaching canidates.
When Marter was the coach at Kenmore it was a dismal situation, The talent pool was shallow, I would say they didnt even have 15 "real" football players on the team. In addition, there was a complete lack of commitment from the players, consequently he went 2-18 in two years. Grimes followed those two seasons with and 0-10 opening. And this is when Central Hower was in the league, you had to be horrible to lose to CH. They didnt even have enough kids to really field two teams (Jv and varsity). Marter is older and wiser and if he could get the staff he would be competitive.
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Old 01-30-12, 03:24 PM
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Tom Hannan.
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Old 01-30-12, 04:10 PM
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Tom Hannan.
Would he come to Akron? Mite be a good choice.
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Old 01-30-12, 05:11 PM
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No way Tom Hannan would come coach in the city league... 4040 you said East could be a power and then you said they could only be at best 5-5?
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Old 01-30-12, 06:22 PM
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I think this question was asked.
Firestone opens at GlenOak.
Buchtel opens with Massillon both games are on Thursday night.
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Old 01-31-12, 07:17 AM
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I stand by my opinion that Coach Marter knows football. It didn't work out at Kenmore for him, but does that mean he can't be successful? Look at Belichick, he has won 3 SB and everyone said the same about him when he was in Cleveland. There are just some situations that are tough, and all City Series schools are tough.
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Old 01-31-12, 08:43 AM
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Combine East and North football teams and maybe they just might have a chance to be 5-5 depending on their out of league games. That is a stretch though. A big one! Neither school will be 5-5 anytime soon. The best start to the coaching solution is to hire someone that can establish a good rapport and build positive relationships with the players and teachers in the building. Support from the staff will play a big role in rebiulding the program. Staff support has basically been non-existent. Obvioulsy having a teacher in the building helps. Are there any APS employees at other schools that will be applying? Maybe they can transfer them to teach at East.
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Old 01-31-12, 11:04 AM
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No way Tom Hannan would come coach in the city league... 4040 you said East could be a power and then you said they could only be at best 5-5?
I said Broph could turn them into a power because of his exp. and Charisma, anyone that has coached with Broph knows his kids will run throught the wall for him. Anyone else 5-5 is the best they will ever be.
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Old 01-31-12, 12:39 PM
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Which 5-5 might be like winning the Super Bowl for East!
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Old 01-31-12, 02:27 PM
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B.S.!! There is no reason East can't be competitive. None! People were saying the same stuff about Central Hower, Firestone, and Kenmore. The right coach changed that. Does anyone think that there was some huge influx of talent at Kenmore? No! Disapline, game plan, commitment all played huge factors in Kenmore's resurgance this year and all that happened with Peltz running what apears to be a late 80's pee-wee offense.
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Old 01-31-12, 02:53 PM
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B.S.!! There is no reason East can't be competitive. None! People were saying the same stuff about Central Hower, Firestone, and Kenmore. The right coach changed that. Does anyone think that there was some huge influx of talent at Kenmore? No! Disapline, game plan, commitment all played huge factors in Kenmore's resurgance this year and all that happened with Peltz running what apears to be a late 80's pee-wee offense.

Two things. #1 Peltz is the right coach for Kenmore, been there a long time, but he also has a staff that is all on the same page. Brophy would be the right coach for East.

#2 what was kenmore's record last year?
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