Forget the neighborhood crap. It's about winning, the playoffs, and money. In hoops everybody makes the playoffs. There are 20 games. In football it is a struggle to make the playoffs. SL teams can't risk losing to the Griffs. Also, nobody makes money on the game. The SL crowd will be down, and they don't pay out like a Massillon anyways. Buchtel would make some money at home, but the SL team isn't going to risk the L and not get paid!
Oh ok I understand what you mean. But i wasnt just talking SL teams though. If we could get a home and home contract with teams we play now then that would be good too!
There is a big difference in night games in a gymnasium in the winter and a night game outside when it is warmer. There is a reason why crime goes up in the summer months, because more and more people are outside. Things crank up when the weather gets nice, hence the shooting in the middle of the afternoon a few months ago.
There really is no reason to even discuss a night game on Copley Road, because if a reason why no one would show up has to be explained, you are absolutely oblivious to the Copley Road issues.
Oh ok I understand what you mean. But i wasnt just talking SL teams though. If we could get a home and home contract with teams we play now then that would be good too!
Steubenville would never play at Buchtel. It is too small. Their fans were upset at SVSM because of how small it is. Buchtel should try and play Big Red at InfoCision Stadium.
With all due respect, you guys are being drama queens about Copley Rd. and a night game. Hoban plays night games. I'd feel safer going to my car after a game at Buchtel than going out on the side streets around Hoban.
Steubenville would never play at Buchtel. It is too small. Their fans were upset at SVSM because of how small it is. Buchtel should try and play Big Red at InfoCision Stadium.
That's an excellent idea. Big Red already plays home and home with Ursuline that uses YSU's stadium.
There is a big difference in night games in a gymnasium in the winter and a night game outside when it is warmer. There is a reason why crime goes up in the summer months, because more and more people are outside. Things crank up when the weather gets nice, hence the shooting in the middle of the afternoon a few months ago.
There really is no reason to even discuss a night game on Copley Road, because if a reason why no one would show up has to be explained, you are absolutely oblivious to the Copley Road issues.
I am oblivious to streets I ride on EVERYDAY?? You have no idea how it really is on the westside. Several shootings have happened all over Akron but thats the one you remember? The paper tells you what it wants you to know and you take it and run with it. I grew up in KENMORE and went to BUCHTEL and never had any issues. I bet the paper doesnt let you know every time they bust in a Meth lab in kenmore. You sir obviously dont know what its really like on the westside or you wouldnt put post like these. Spend a day on the westside and form your opinion, thats if your not too scared!
If the vision of a renovated stadium with lights comes true at Buchtel there are plenty of teams suburban and private who would play there and bring a crowd. The Hoban analogy is a valid one. Hell U of A is a dangerous place to walk down the street on Friday night.
Why should Buchtel get lights and new turf when East didn't even get iots own locker room during their renovation? It doesn't seem fair to me.
Because APS would not be paying for it....a Buchtel initiated fundraising effort would do that like Lightfoot did with Firestone's baseball field because APS would not do squat to upgrade it.
It's not that APS won;t do anything, its more a case of not being able to do anything. the cupboards are empty and there is no money to sepnd on stadiums. The state building fund does noot allow for the funds to be used for stadiums. If the levy does not pass in November, there will be only 5-6 high schools in the city.
It's not that APS won;t do anything, its more a case of not being able to do anything. the cupboards are empty and there is no money to sepnd on stadiums. The state building fund does noot allow for the funds to be used for stadiums. If the levy does not pass in November, there will be only 5-6 high schools in the city.
Cruiseman - it is a matter of priorities with APS. It is a bad administrative team led by David James. The priority is keeping 7 unnecessary high schools instead of making tough decisions like closing East years ago. If they had closed schools and gone down to 5 high schools then they could possibly sell to the public the idea of a central athletic facility Collinwood style. We are more concerned with STEM schools, IB programs, and artsy fartsy VPA schools.
There are other issues at work. The money the schools use that are from the state are not to be used on athletic facilities. It makes it difficult to do more than the sad situation East football got in terms of a lockeroom.
Does anyone know how many games the other APS schools have at Infocision? Buchtel only has 1 game at Infocision(Firestone), but they have 4 games at Kenmore. I heard East has 4 games at Infocision. If that is true, i sure would like to know how that happened
With all due respect, you guys are being drama queens about Copley Rd. and a night game. Hoban plays night games. I'd feel safer going to my car after a game at Buchtel than going out on the side streets around Hoban.
Thank you!!! My thoughts exactly, but coming from me,,,,,
Cruiseman - it is a matter of priorities with APS. It is a bad administrative team led by David James. The priority is keeping 7 unnecessary high schools instead of making tough decisions like closing East years ago. If they had closed schools and gone down to 5 high schools then they could possibly sell to the public the idea of a central athletic facility Collinwood style. We are more concerned with STEM schools, IB programs, and artsy fartsy VPA schools.
I don't propose to have an answer to any of this mess, but shouldn't the answer be more about what is in the best interests of the kids and the school system, as opposed to what's best for an athletic program that a small minority of the students participate in? Studies show that small schools are generally more effectice than large schools. Also, the kids in the "STEM schools, IB programs, and artsy fartsy VPA schools" deserve the same attention and funding from APS as the defensive lineman who will be serving them their fries in 5 years. I know that's blaspheme on a sports related forum.
As for the safety concerns, I can't think of many stadiums in the City of Akron that I feel entirely safe going to at night.
I don't propose to have an answer to any of this mess, but shouldn't the answer be more about what is in the best interests of the kids and the school system, as opposed to what's best for an athletic program that a small minority of the students participate in? Studies show that small schools are generally more effectice than large schools. Also, the kids in the "STEM schools, IB programs, and artsy fartsy VPA schools" deserve the same attention and funding from APS as the defensive lineman who will be serving them their fries in 5 years. I know that's blaspheme on a sports related forum.
As for the safety concerns, I can't think of many stadiums in the City of Akron that I feel entirely safe going to at night.
Without the STEM school and all of the other special educational and arts programs APS would be dead like Cleveland and Youngstown.
Because APS would not be paying for it....a Buchtel initiated fundraising effort would do that like Lightfoot did with Firestone's baseball field because APS would not do squat to upgrade it.
I did not realize that it would be as the result of fundraising.
I don't propose to have an answer to any of this mess, but shouldn't the answer be more about what is in the best interests of the kids and the school system, as opposed to what's best for an athletic program that a small minority of the students participate in? Studies show that small schools are generally more effectice than large schools. Also, the kids in the "STEM schools, IB programs, and artsy fartsy VPA schools" deserve the same attention and funding from APS as the defensive lineman who will be serving them their fries in 5 years. I know that's blaspheme on a sports related forum.
As for the safety concerns, I can't think of many stadiums in the City of Akron that I feel entirely safe going to at night.
Yes - the key here is whats best for ALL the kids not just the few who are chosen for VPA, STEM, and IB programs. There are far more kids in APS who participate in athletics than who participate in these elitist programs. Whay are these kids the chosen ones? I also have a philosophical issue with these types of programs. Education is actually real simple but educators and politicians like a flavor of the month mentality instead of educating all kids thoroughly.
Viking - Cleveland does have a School for the Arts and Magnet schools like STEM and is "dead" anyway. Cant speak for Youngstown.
Yes - the key here is whats best for ALL the kids not just the few who are chosen for VPA, STEM, and IB programs. There are far more kids in APS who participate in athletics than who participate in these elitist programs. Whay are these kids the chosen ones? I also have a philosophical issue with these types of programs. Education is actually real simple but educators and politicians like a flavor of the month mentality instead of educating all kids thoroughly.
Viking - Cleveland does have a School for the Arts and Magnet schools like STEM and is "dead" anyway. Cant speak for Youngstown.
I think we can agree on one thing- APS has no long term or comprehensive plan.
Buchtel and Steuby have zero reason to play a regular season game at Infocision or anywhere besides Death Valley. Buchtel gets a hefty paycheck for going down there and Steuby gets another home game and another large home gate.
Buchtel and Steuby have zero reason to play a regular season game at Infocision or anywhere besides Death Valley. Buchtel gets a hefty paycheck for going down there and Steuby gets another home game and another large home gate.
Buchtel and Steuby have zero reason to play a regular season game at Infocision or anywhere besides Death Valley. Buchtel gets a hefty paycheck for going down there and Steuby gets another home game and another large home gate.
The crowd would be big at InfoCision Stadium, especially if the games was on a Thursday or a Saturday night. InfoCision Stadium is state of the art. It would be a treat for the Big Red kids and fans and a chance for Reno to play at his alma mater.
I've never been to a night game at Buchtel (nor has anyone else), but I don't feel comfortable leaving a Hoban game when I am not in a large crowd. There aren't may places in Akron I feel safe after dark any more. Hoban does however do a good job with employing a large contingent of APD officers, many of them parents of Hoban students.
The crowd would be big at InfoCision Stadium, especially if the games was on a Thursday or a Saturday night. InfoCision Stadium is state of the art. It would be a treat for the Big Red kids and fans and a chance for Reno to play at his alma mater.
And it makes no financial sense as Big Red would bring 2,000 fans instead of a home game that guarantees Buchtel a check and brings 5-9,000 Big Red fans. Reality is APS teams need the money from the Massillon, Steubenville, etc. games to keep their programs afloat.
I'm sure the Steubenville and Massillon booster clubs feed the visiting players as well after the game.
And it makes no financial sense as Big Red would bring 2,000 fans instead of a home game that guarantees Buchtel a check and brings 5-9,000 Big Red fans. Reality is APS teams need the money from the Massillon, Steubenville, etc. games to keep their programs afloat.
I'm sure the Steubenville and Massillon booster clubs feed the visiting players as well after the game.
The Buchtel boosters would feed Big Red. Let Buchtel keep all of the gate. The 'Ville would get the funds from pre-sale. The Griffs could still play a "money game" on the road. Let the Big Red kids and hardcore fans enjoy InfoCision Stadium! Coach Tressel could visit the kids before the game.
Stubenville and Massillon do NOT feed the visiting players before or after the games. Stubenville has the WORST visitor sideline i have ever seen! There is only 8 feet of space between the sideline and the stands!
4 games at Kenmore. I heard East has 4 games at Infocision. If that is true, i sure would like to know how that happened
Did a Buchtel fan do something to you?
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