I hope they don't leave the district. I think the next couple of years will be very interesting. And usually, Tallmadge is the only team to give Walsh a game in the district.
Your completely wrong about Tallmadge being the only team giving Walsh a game in the district. Actually, it's quite the opposite. Last year, Walsh crushed Tallmadge and their so-called Little League All Stars. In 2006 Walsh mercied Tallmadge in the district. The team that Walsh and everyone else in the district needs to keep an eye on if Field. Field gave the game away against Walsh in the district last year, leading 1-0 going into the last inning.
The pitcher for Field (forget his name) was great, and he's back again this year. All it takes is one great pitcher, and Field has one.
Your completely wrong about Tallmadge being the only team giving Walsh a game in the district. Actually, it's quite the opposite. Last year, Walsh crushed Tallmadge and their so-called Little League All Stars. In 2006 Walsh mercied Tallmadge in the district. The team that Walsh and everyone else in the district needs to keep an eye on if Field. Field gave the game away against Walsh in the district last year, leading 1-0 going into the last inning.
The pitcher for Field (forget his name) was great, and he's back again this year. All it takes is one great pitcher, and Field has one.
In the regular season, who is the only local team to beat Walsh two years in a row?
Answer: STVM! Actually STVM was beating Walsh, I think 6-1 when the 2007 game was rained out. It was never completed. Technically a STVM win?
Hey Devil fan, you can only hope so for Tallmadge's sake. Until they leave, Tallmadge will never advance out of that district.
Hmmmm that's interesting. Last time I checked, in order to make it to the state finals three years in a row, you needed to make it out of your district? No?
Your completely wrong about Tallmadge being the only team giving Walsh a game in the district. Actually, it's quite the opposite. Last year, Walsh crushed Tallmadge and their so-called Little League All Stars. In 2006 Walsh mercied Tallmadge in the district. The team that Walsh and everyone else in the district needs to keep an eye on if Field. Field gave the game away against Walsh in the district last year, leading 1-0 going into the last inning.
The pitcher for Field (forget his name) was great, and he's back again this year. All it takes is one great pitcher, and Field has one.
Sorry the "Little League All Stars", being sophomores didn't put the rest of the team on their backs and carry them to victory. What do you have against them anyway? I've seen you post something else negative about them before. By the way, the pitcher from Field is Cody Umbright, and hes pretty dam* good. Only a junior this year too.
Your completely wrong about Tallmadge being the only team giving Walsh a game in the district. Actually, it's quite the opposite. Last year, Walsh crushed Tallmadge and their so-called Little League All Stars. In 2006 Walsh mercied Tallmadge in the district. The team that Walsh and everyone else in the district needs to keep an eye on if Field. Field gave the game away against Walsh in the district last year, leading 1-0 going into the last inning.
The pitcher for Field (forget his name) was great, and he's back again this year. All it takes is one great pitcher, and Field has one.
Hmmmm that is almost as interesting. Dating back to 1998, Tallmadge has only missed the District Finals once, MAYBE twice. I guess Walsh should still worry about Field more than Tallmadge though. It's not like Tallmadge and Walsh go at it every year. Sheesh, you are off.
All Day, my point was that Tallmadge HAS NOT been a formidable opponent is this district in recent years. Yes, they have advance to the district final, but they did not give Walsh a game. In 2006 they were mercied and in 2007 they were beat pretty bad by Walsh. It's just my opinion, but I believe Field and their pitcher (I believe he is a senior this year) offer more of a threat to Walsh in a one game situation than Tallmadge will. Of course, Field would have to not already burned that pitcher before the district final. I know Tallmadge believes that they have the team this year, and perhaps next with that Little League group, but as a casual observer, I just have not seen the talent with that group that will carry them past Walsh.
Umbright from Field is a junior. He is very tough. As for Walsh they are always tough and probably will be the team to beat again this year. Not to start a big debate but I do have to say, and I know alot of people are tired of hearing this, Tallmadge and Field are kids from within their community not a travel team as Walsh. I am not taking anything from Walsh as they are the premier High School team in area.
Kzr0 I agree with you. We all know that there is always going to be the public vs. private school debate, but I for one get sick of reading about it.
The situation is what it is, but I will say this with regard to baseball. When your in a one and out playoff situation, it is very possible for any team, public or private to take a powerhouse team out. We've all seen it. You get one stud pitcher, or you get one crafty pitcher throwing junk, and you never know. As I said before, Ellet did this to Walsh last year. That is what makes the high school game fun.
Kzr0 I agree with you. We all know that there is always going to be the public vs. private school debate, but I for one get sick of reading about it.
The situation is what it is, but I will say this with regard to baseball. When your in a one and out playoff situation, it is very possible for any team, public or private to take a powerhouse team out. We've all seen it. You get one stud pitcher, or you get one crafty pitcher throwing junk, and you never know. As I said before, Ellet did this to Walsh last year. That is what makes the high school game fun.
Exactly, as Norton did vs. Walsh 3 or 4 years ago. That Walsh team was predicted to win the SC.
I hate to use it as an excuse but Tallmadge and Field were and are still very young teams. As Bluedevil41 said, you can't expect a group of mostly sophomores and juniors to carry a team past some one like Walsh. How many sophomore starters did Walsh have? Because I know Tallmadge had 6 or 7 a game. So where you are getting your thought that Tallmadge will never give Walsh a game i don't know.
I guess were getting a little off the topic here. To get back to the subject, I have not heard anything or read anything about Walsh leaving their district. What they need to work on with that district is the following: 1. Get the games out of Summit Lake. The city maintenance crew (or lack of it), is a joke. It seems every year the games get rescheduled at the last minute due to the field conditions, or they back up the games, and you have teams ending games around midnight, then having to go to school the next day, and play again the following day. That is unfair to these kids, especially in a one and out tournament. 2. Get some of the city teams in their own district. Every year you see scores like 20-2 when Walsh play Akron East. What is the point? 3. Get some young umpire crews to work these games (This might be a whole seperate topic, especially in the NEO area). I have nothing against the elderly, but some of these guys just cannot physically do the things required by an umpire. I'm getting off the topic again, but since we were talking about this district, I thought I would share my opinion.
I think that summit lake although it has a rich history, it's time to either upgrade that field, or keep it only for our 40+ friends who participate in the men's softball leagues. That field just degrades high school competition. it's always out of whack.
As for the Akron Aeros thing- genius. I think all district and regional games, if this is possible, which i don't see why it wouldnt be, should be played at the premier venues around the state such as college fields and the professional fields as well. Keep the State Title game at Cooper's Stadium in C-Bus, obviously, and then move it into whatever their new stadium will be called.
p.s.- back to the topic and to answer the question- I'll believe it when i see it. pretty smart-assish but eh.
I hate to use it as an excuse but Tallmadge and Field were and are still very young teams. As Bluedevil41 said, you can't expect a group of mostly sophomores and juniors to carry a team past some one like Walsh. How many sophomore starters did Walsh have? Because I know Tallmadge had 6 or 7 a game. So where you are getting your thought that Tallmadge will never give Walsh a game i don't know.
Starting 6/7 soph.'s a little stretch.I believe that # is closer to 4.
Not to many teams from 1 zip code assemble 20 win seasons, year after year.
Tallmadge will continue to be a force and have had some good games against Walsh that could have gone either way the last 5/6 years.
Don't count Hoban out off this mix because they are loaded this year and may have the most complete pitching/cathching staff around.
"Sophomore's starting" I'm not sure how many soph's started for Tallmadge last year. Regarding how many Walsh starters were soph's, it doesn't matter. Most of their JV kids would be starting on varsity at most other schools. That's just the way the program is. Your elite varsity players at Walsh normally do not see much time until their junior season.
"Not to many teams from 1 zip code assemble 20 win seasons, year after year". Very True.
"Tallmadge will continue to be a force and have had some good games against Walsh that could have gone either way the last 5/6 years". Somewhat agree, although the last two years 06 and 07 have not been close contests. Walsh mercied Tallmadge in 06, 13-3, and beat Tallmadge pretty good last year 8-2. Tallmadge has always had a great feeder program from their Little League program. Not sure if their bringing through the same talent. Their very successful little league group (09 class) seems to have talent that has not translated to on the field success yet. Perhaps their best years are coming in 08 and 09.
"Don't count Hoban out off this mix because they are loaded this year and may have the most complete pitching/cathching staff around". Very True. They have some very good talent this year. I think it also helps that Gustoff is gone. His teams never seemed to respond to him on the field.
Their very successful little league group (09 class) seems to have talent that has not translated to on the field success yet. Perhaps their best years are coming in 08 and 09.
20+ W against one of the toughest schedules around. Suburban League Champions. District Finalist. No success?
I truly think that a lot of posters here on yappi enjoy listening to themselves talk, even though they know absolutely nothing about the topics they're addressing.
Time to move onto another topic. I did not mean to offend the Tallmadge followers. I only point out the facts. Regardless of your 20+ wins, and your so called tough schedule, your ultimate success will be determined with how you can do coming out of the district. The last several years Tallmadge has not advanced to the Regional. Until they do that, they will always be viewed as a very good program, just not amongst the elite.
Time to move onto another topic. I did not mean to offend the Tallmadge followers. I only point out the facts. Regardless of your 20+ wins, and your so called tough schedule, your ultimate success will be determined with how you can do coming out of the district. The last several years Tallmadge has not advanced to the Regional. Until they do that, they will always be viewed as a very good program, just not amongst the elite.
As one sportswriter said:
"There is a difference between a winning program and a championship program".
He was NOT referring to high school baseball, but a pro football team.
Walsh returns a ton of starters from last year . . .
Walsh should be able to boast having a line-up of starters from last year (varying degree's) at every single position but 2B plus three very good pitchers. Here's my take . . . anxious to see how close I come . . .
1B will either be a returning SR or a Soph returning letterman (Emmendorfer or Berry with the other "DH" ing), 2B is wide open with four returning lettermen battling with no real clear cut leader, SS is locked in with KSU signee Brunello who has started there for the past two years ans was member of the Varsity as F and 3B is Fasola, Soph who started 8 or 9 games as a true Frosh last year there, OF loaded with talent and set with some combo of Charles, Ferrara and Ontko, two SR's and a very talented Soph with all having started multiple games last year. C is two yr starter and very experienced JR Toland and key pitchers are SR's L Starn last year's No. 2 and Bellaire a KSU recruit and up and comer righty Soph Skulina will be a hoss as he was Newcomer of the year in the CVRC last year.
They also have tons of backup players who will push these guys but that appears what they will look like comin' out and they really should be tough as apparently so will Tallmadge and Hoban.
Time to move onto another topic. I did not mean to offend the Tallmadge followers. I only point out the facts. Regardless of your 20+ wins, and your so called tough schedule, your ultimate success will be determined with how you can do coming out of the district. The last several years Tallmadge has not advanced to the Regional. Until they do that, they will always be viewed as a very good program, just not amongst the elite.
I disagree, success can be determined by seasons and also by looking at the state final four the last 7 years.
There were 7 teams that made it twice, Belfontaine, Canfield, Lakewood Hebron, Notre Dame Cathedral Latin, Stubinville, Walsh and yes Tallmadge.
5 of those won State titles and yes Tallmadge was one of them.
I think you can classify all the above teams as elite.
Please, engage brain before opening mouth.Just the facts