Voted for Moeller because of the following pitchers:
Ross Oltorik- RHP:7-2 career record (2 yrs); ERA 1.79;90-94 MPH; committed to The Ohio State University
Greg Williams-LHP: 8-0 career record (1yr); ERA 0.15; 86-89 MPH; committed to Marshall University
Patrick Curtin-LHP: 4-1 career record (1.5 yrs); ERA 1.77;81-83 MPH; looking at several D1 schools but limited to visits because of football
Brent Suter-LHP: 1 yr of varsity; only pitched 9 innings because of basketball; ERA 3.89; 83-86 MPH; looking at several Ivy League Schools;
all of them are seniors however Williams and Oltorik will be getting the call late in the year because of experience of pitching in the postseason. I know some will say West has the best pitching staff but if you matchup up the two teams pitching staffs then I pretty sure you will see the superior talent is favoring Moeller with being able to throw two pitchers who can just dominate the game with their stuff. It is not very often when you can throw out 4 pitchers, 3 being left LH, all being seniors and throwing at least in the mid-80's
Nastold cannot even finish his own game that he starts. He throws so many pitches because its all about k's with him that he can only go 4 or 5 innings. Look what Moeller, West and Mentor did to him. He lost those 4 games because they forced his pitch count up. He threw like 130 in each of those games while only throwing 4 or 5 innings. Ok so what you strike out 10-15 kids you also walked 13 and you give up runs and you team loses. The purpose of a pitcher is to let your team behind make the plays. One thing Nastold better do is be able to control the strike zone. I don't think many pro teams will put up with it. (making teams not want to draft him)
Don't get me wrong I like Mike, I have played with him before and he is a good friend. I just don't think just because you have him makes your team have the best staff. Obviously he is not untouchable because he only went 7-4 and had a ERA around 1.5.
Here is one of Mike's lines from the Moeller game at WCBO
NO Name IP: 4.2 H:5 ER:4 BB:8 SO:10 TB:61 TS:63 TP:124
1 Nastold, Mike
Well, while Moeller is impressive, I think Glen Este is the class of the pitching in cincy. Strong up the middle, with Jeffers as catcher and Jones in center, I am predicting great things for them,, maybe all the way.
The best staff in the city based upon all star games this fall,, is certainly glen este, not only that but they are strong up the middle with jeffers and jones,,, maybe the sky is the limit for them
Moeller has the best staff...4 senior pitchers with that can get it done, 2 good catchers..Elder a close second
Agree...Moeller's staff should be awesome.Any of their top 3... (Oltorik, Williams, Curtin) would be the number 1 starter on the majority of teams. As far as Elder goes, hopefully Nastold can return to form after recovering from the broken leg he has suffered.
Agree...Moeller's staff should be awesome.Any of their top 3... (Oltorik, Williams, Curtin) would be the number 1 starter on the majority of teams. As far as Elder goes, hopefully Nastold can return to form after recovering from the broken leg he has suffered.
Mason's staff isn't over powering but is solid and will get the job done
Jimmy Williams~81-83 topping 85
Cody Saylor~82-85 topping 86
Ben Lause~81-83 topping 84
Josh Stolz~80
Derek Cox~80-81
Brian Apking~82-85 topping 86
Along with a couple of other arms coming out of the pen
Agree...Moeller's staff should be awesome.Any of their top 3... (Oltorik, Williams, Curtin) would be the number 1 starter on the majority of teams. As far as Elder goes, hopefully Nastold can return to form after recovering from the broken leg he has suffered.
It would be hard to find a better staff than Moeller. Williams was one of the best I saw last year. Tall, hard-throwing lefties are nice to have around. If Oltorik is healthy (hope so) he can dominate as well. Haven't seen Curtin much but he looked very solid the little I did see him. They have a few more (Seeger, Suter and I bet some young guys coming up from JV) that would probably be among the top pitchers at most schools. I always wonder if some of these good pitchers that are further down the list at Moeller regret going to a school with such a good baseball program.
Elder should be well stocked with Nastold, Bernsden, Reilly, and Ernst. Rother and Hollstegge at St. X (I have to be missing some guys there). I'm not sure what LaSalle has in the pitching department.
I'm sure the schools above will also have some young guys step up and have great years.
I always wonder if some of these good pitchers that are further down the list at Moeller regret going to a school with such a good baseball program.
I don't think those kids should regret going to good high schools that produces college players like a factory. If you think about not every kid is ready for varsity as a sophomore. They need that extra year at JV to get them preped for varsity. There is no shame in not playing varsity as a sophomore at schools like Moeller and Elder. Kids at the lower end of the rotation will get their time to shine sometime during the season and chances are some school is always there to watch someone play. I know a lot of kids who played JV as juniors and still went to school with an athletic scholarship.
moeller may have a good staff but they dont have what glen este has and they have a deep staff at glen este
Moeller has 4 D1 pitchers compared to 0 D1 pitchers for Glen Este. I don't think you need 10 pitchers for a season. You only need 5 or 6 pitchers. When you get to the tourney you need two (Williams and Oltorik>> any Glen Este pitcher). Just because the did good in the champions fall ball league doesn't mean anything. Williams played for St. Louis Cardinals Scout Team (Oltorik turned down the offer b/c of football) I do not think any Glen Este pitcher got that recognition.
Glenn Este does have a very nice staff, especially with marksberry. I've played against some of them and they are good... but its a whole different game playing in the GCL
Moeller has 4 D1 pitchers compared to 0 D1 pitchers for Glen Este. I don't think you need 10 pitchers for a season. You only need 5 or 6 pitchers. When you get to the tourney you need two (Williams and Oltorik>> any Glen Este pitcher). Just because the did good in the champions fall ball league doesn't mean anything. Williams played for St. Louis Cardinals Scout Team (Oltorik turned down the offer b/c of football) I do not think any Glen Este pitcher got that recognition.
Glen Este= OVERRATED
Marksberry and Fuller are both juniors. i have seen them both pitch and they both have great stuff and could definately D1 pitchers in college. I know they have a couple seniors who have pretty good stuff too but not sure of their names. Ive just plaed against those 2. I think it's a reach to say there staff will be better than Moellers this year though they will be good. Moellers staff will be the best in the city. And Xslugger,the gcl is not everything. I believe West won a state championship last year.
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