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Old 12-11-18, 09:04 AM
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'you guys " umm You realize it's not the Dems but the Feds? he's already politically been a bit bloodied. Look at al the defections the turnover the indictments the pleadings the sentencing. Lay a glove? yeah everyone think s Donny is clean as a whistle. NO damage done at all the man is as pure and clean as un peed upon driven snow.
All the indictments...…. how many had anything at all to do with the actual campaign? None. You've got some Russians who were cited for making Facebook posts and generating fake ads regarding the election itself, but nothing linking them to any candidate.

I don't think Trump is as clean as a whistle, I don't think Clinton is clean either. Compared to Clinton, Trump is probably virginal in appearance and actions, but that's not really what the Mueller witch hunt is about.
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Old 12-11-18, 09:13 AM
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We will still hear about 'You can keep your doctor decades later. Trumps thousands of lies all blend in and are a warped speed conveyor belt of lies no one can possibly keep up.
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Obama told some whoppers:

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/obamas-whoppers/
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Old 12-11-18, 10:59 AM
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I still have my same doctor.

You cannot whataboutism this one. Trump lies are in a different stratosphere and about verifiable things....sometimes contradicting what he has already said.
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Old 12-11-18, 11:18 AM
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Trump out does Obama on this topic. (realizing he just says and tweets stuff and it doesn't really matter...)

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”
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Old 12-11-18, 11:59 AM
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Trump out does Obama on this topic. (realizing he just says and tweets stuff and it doesn't really matter...)

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”
How is that a lie?
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Old 12-11-18, 12:26 PM
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Trump out does Obama on this topic. (realizing he just says and tweets stuff and it doesn't really matter...)

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”
Blame congress on that. He can't sign a bill he never receives.
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Old 12-11-18, 12:37 PM
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Trump out does Obama on this topic. (realizing he just says and tweets stuff and it doesn't really matter...)

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Happygoluckky follows Trumps Tweets Since when did Twitter become the place to write Laws and Executive Orders?

President Trump's Tweets accomplish exactly what he wants. It ruffles the feathers of people like you while he's busy pushing Congress and signing new Executive Orders that are Making America Great Again. While he's moving the US ahead Trump Haters like you are forever stuck reading Twitter and ignoring what's really going on in the real world. It's comical just watching people like you recite Trump' latest Tweet.
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Old 12-11-18, 01:33 PM
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Trump out does Obama on this topic. (realizing he just says and tweets stuff and it doesn't really matter...)

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”
I've got health insurance. If I didn't have health insurance I could go out and buy exactly what I needed and work on the price to fit my budget - something I couldn't do 24 months ago. I would have to take what someone else chose for me and pay the price that they negotiated for that coverage whether it fit my needs or not.

The cost of healthcare has indeed dropped for some elements as some of Obamascams taxes have been eliminated. With the tax cuts and renewed optimism, I'm much better off than I was 24 months ago. What point is it you want to make?
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Old 12-11-18, 01:45 PM
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I still have my same doctor.

You cannot whataboutism this one. Trump lies are in a different stratosphere and about verifiable things....sometimes contradicting what he has already said.
I have mine as well. But my insurance plan wasn't eliminated by Obamascam, I know quite a few people that lost their doctor because they lost their insurance and their doctor chose not to participate in the replacement cut-rate political insurance that essentially put more people in the Medicaid bucket.

There were 2 parts to the lie, if you like your insurance you'd be able to keep it and if you liked your doctor you'd be able to keep him/her. That wasn't exactly true for millions of people (almost 9 million people LOST their insurance coverage due to Obamascam in the 1st 18 months) and I don't know what the number was for people that lost their doctor as they dealt with the issue. I know my doctor considered moving to concierge service when Obamascam was implemented and I was going to stay with him and only use insurance for hospitalization/pharmacy.
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