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Old 09-17-18, 07:47 PM
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Old 09-18-18, 08:00 AM
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Eastisbest, they still have the big Shoreman. Sadly, the band has changed from a marching show band to a competition band. The band is half the size that it once was. The uniforms can be charitably described as the marching busboy look.

The team however has transitioned to a modern offense with a balanced attack. No more three yards and a cloud of field turf pebbles.
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Old 09-18-18, 08:36 AM
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Eastisbest, they still have the big Shoreman. Sadly, the band has changed from a marching show band to a competition band. The band is half the size that it once was. The uniforms can be charitably described as the marching busboy look.

The team however has transitioned to a modern offense with a balanced attack. No more three yards and a cloud of field turf pebbles.
This is not the first time AL has ever been a strong passing team. They had a good passing attack when Ronnie Willoughby was at WR, and they ran a spread when Larry Laird was head coach.
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Old 09-18-18, 10:25 AM
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Our TRAC and NLL teams will have good experience against college capable QBs. It will be the line work that will determine the game.

Sad to hear about that AL Band (I know, we're not supposed to talk about bands, don't care). They were fun. I'd still look forward to seeing a game there again though.
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Old 09-18-18, 11:42 AM
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This is not the first time AL has ever been a strong passing team. They had a good passing attack when Ronnie Willoughby was at WR, and they ran a spread when Larry Laird was head coach.
Wasn't that your father's Avon Lake that hoisted the state title trophy in 2003?
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Old 09-18-18, 11:56 AM
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Wasn't that your father's Avon Lake that hoisted the state title trophy in 2003?
That was an exceptionally talented team, with D1 players at both WR positions (Stross and Means) and even the back up TB (Doyle). They could beat teams any way required, though the preference was to pound teams with the run (Schroeder and a big line).
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Old 09-18-18, 12:36 PM
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Week 3 provided a shake up in the region, as Avon Lake took down Avon and Sandusky pretty much put the nail in Ross' coffin. TCC recorded an impressive win and is the heavy favorite in the region, as I believe they are on another level from everyone else.There are a few 2-1 teams in the region I didn't include in this week's picks because I don't believe they are true contenders for a playoff spot yet (Northview, Valley Forge, Normandy, St. Francis). Other 2-1 and 3-0 teams have easily winnable games this week, so I picked the few games of impact in Week 4.

Winners in bold.

Waite (3-0) at Lima CC (3-0 D6) -- The Indians will lose this game, but it might wind up being their only loss of the season.

North Olmsted (2-1) at Avon (2-1) -- Avon was blindsided by the loss of their star RB before facing Avon Lake. They will have time to adjust before facing North Olmsted and will get back on track in the battle of the Eagles.

Bowling Green (2-1 D3) at Springfield (2-1) -- This NLL early test could go either way, but I like Springfield at home and with the big play potential.

Whitmer (2-1 D1) at St John's Jesuit (2-1) -- I really don't have SJJ as a top eight threat, but this is a big intra-Toledo TRAC game so it merits inclusion in what is a pretty easy week for the true contenders in R6. I like the Panthers to roll.
Other than the close game between Toledo SJJ and Whitmer, last week went as expected...though I did think North Royalton would sneak by Stow. They didn't.

Winners in bold.

Valley Forge (3-1) at Elyria Catholic (3-1 D5) -- This could be a close game, but I think EC gets the home win and pretty much ends the playoff hopes of the Patriots.

Berea-Midpark (3-1 D1) at Amherst (4-0) -- This is a very tough game to pick. The Comets are playing with great confidence and are rounding into a complete team. Just a gut feeling, but I think B-M's offense will prove too much too handle for the Comets D.

Springfield (3-1) at Northview (3-1) -- I'm not a believer in Northview as a playoff team, and I see the Blue Devils exposing them.

Detroit (MI) Leadership Academy (2-2 D7) at Waite (3-1) -- This is a must-win for the Indians, and a win could set them up for a later game with Scott that could sneak them into the playoffs at 9-1. Should be close, but I'll take Waite at home to keep the dream alive.

Findlay (1-3 D1) at St Francis (3-1) -- I see TSF's playoff hopes taking a hit, as Findlay gets a much needed win after a couple close losses.

St John's Jesuit (2-2) at Fremont Ross (2-2) -- This is likely an elimination game, though not for certain. The winner is certainly in much better shape than the loser, though. SJJ played Whitmer very tough, so this is a toss-up, but I'm going with Ross and the better overall resume.
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Old 09-18-18, 01:17 PM
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I'm pleasantly surprised by Toledo St. Francis. To be sure their wins are against some weaker teams, but they are winning and winning big. I can see them going 7-3 with losses to TCC and Whitmer.

I used to coach their linebacker way back when he was in 2nd grade in basketball. Even then he was a workout freak. He would do pushups on his knuckles. He didnt start playing football until his freshman year. He is a beast out there.

Even though I am a TCC guy, I wish St. Francis the best after a long several years of subpar results.
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Old 09-18-18, 08:18 PM
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Friday's Ross-St. Johns game will be the 16th all-time between the two programs in a series that began in 1978. Ross leads the series 9-6. Friday should be a wild one between the two, but I believe in the Little Giants.
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Old 09-18-18, 09:23 PM
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I watched Mogadore ( albeit a very good D6 team) take apart Elyria Catholic last week. Game might be close but I would pick Valley Forge.
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Old 09-22-18, 10:34 AM
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Well officially, the pressure is off for Ross. Try to play for pride. Actually, I wouldn't hold it against the coaching staff if they started to play for the future, and go more with underclassmen.
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Old 09-22-18, 10:37 AM
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Old 09-22-18, 11:12 AM
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Detroit (MI) Leadership Academy (2-2 D7) at Waite (3-1) -- This is a must-win for the Indians, and a win could set them up for a later game with Scott that could sneak them into the playoffs at 9-1. Should be close, but I'll take Waite at home to keep the dream alive.
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I still think Start is the team to beat. Waite, Scott are competitive with the bottom of the NLL. Northview was a well played game for Waite but penaltywise, they've regressed every game, even while other execution is getting better. Start, transitively speaking, could at least give Anthony Wayne a game. Start has played the much tougher OOC, hence the 1-4 record. Good games played againt Clyde, Columbian and Bellview.

The refs in the Detroit game didn't put up with things. One drive, Waite had 3 facemask penalties and someone finally told the coach to stay off the field. It was well handled. Flag picked up. Coach responded great. Didn't see him on the field once after that. One of the smarter Waite teams I've seen and they will hit you but they just do not have any size. I've never seen a team so small. Small in the backfield and small on the line. QB keeps getting better. Downfield passing still a little but of a guessing game but they're getting closer to synching up.


Waite will need many fewer penalties and be able to get quick hits with the passing game (and hopefully the starting RB back) in order to beat Start next week.
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Old 09-22-18, 11:18 AM
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Bellevue and Clyde are down this year as well
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Old 09-22-18, 12:51 PM
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Old 09-23-18, 02:36 PM
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Other than the close game between Toledo SJJ and Whitmer, last week went as expected...though I did think North Royalton would sneak by Stow. They didn't.

Winners in bold.

Valley Forge (3-1) at Elyria Catholic (3-1 D5) -- This could be a close game, but I think EC gets the home win and pretty much ends the playoff hopes of the Patriots.

Berea-Midpark (3-1 D1) at Amherst (4-0) -- This is a very tough game to pick. The Comets are playing with great confidence and are rounding into a complete team. Just a gut feeling, but I think B-M's offense will prove too much too handle for the Comets D.

Springfield (3-1) at Northview (3-1) -- I'm not a believer in Northview as a playoff team, and I see the Blue Devils exposing them.

Detroit (MI) Leadership Academy (2-2 D7) at Waite (3-1) -- This is a must-win for the Indians, and a win could set them up for a later game with Scott that could sneak them into the playoffs at 9-1. Should be close, but I'll take Waite at home to keep the dream alive.

Findlay (1-3 D1) at St Francis (3-1) -- I see TSF's playoff hopes taking a hit, as Findlay gets a much needed win after a couple close losses.

St John's Jesuit (2-2) at Fremont Ross (2-2) -- This is likely an elimination game, though not for certain. The winner is certainly in much better shape than the loser, though. SJJ played Whitmer very tough, so this is a toss-up, but I'm going with Ross and the better overall resume.
Well, the first two games on my list last week went opposite of the way I picked. Not surprised by Amherst winning, as that game was a true toss up. A little surprised Valley Forge handled EC's passing attack as well as they did. Kudos to Firestone Fan for his views on that game.

Week 6 has some big battles!

Winners in bold.

Toledo CC (5-0) at Whitmer (4-1 D1) -- The Panthers are very good, but I don't see any team beating the Irish until very deep into the playoffs.

Amherst (5-0) at Olmsted Falls (4-1) -- The Comets have become an offensive juggernaut with a powerful running game and a good enough passing attack. That's too much for the Bulldogs, though this should be a close game.

Garfield Hts (5-0 D2) at Valley Forge (4-1) -- I don't think either team is as good as their record, but I like the Bulldogs better than the Patriots.

St Francis DeSales (3-2) at St John's Jesuit (3-2) -- The loser is in a precarious playoff position, while the winner keeps hope alive. I like the Titans in this Catholic battle of Toledo.

Toledo Start (1-4 D1) at Toledo Waite (4-1) -- I agree with Eastisbest. Start has faced a much tougher schedule and should win...but they won't. The Indians dream season continues.
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Old 09-23-18, 02:54 PM
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Toledo Start (1-4 D1) at Toledo Waite (4-1) -- I agree with Eastisbest. Start has faced a much tougher schedule and should win...but they won't. The Indians dream season continues.
Hope so. Always nice to have a smile on the walk home.

We've had a terrific home schedule. Rival, most in contention and the final game. Big game for Coach, he went to Start. But now that league has started, I do hope they have found a way to avoid problems, with everyone sitting on the same side and taking the same tunnel to concessions. Even the Detroit game got a bit rowdy under the stands. I think they need to find a temporary way to hold concessions in the other endzone, for the Waite fans. One problem and Waite loses a chance at the championship like they did a couple years ago.
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Old 09-23-18, 02:59 PM
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Old 09-27-18, 09:46 PM
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Waite and Valley Forge both lose tonight expect to see a shakeup next week. The winner of St. Johns and St. Francis should slide into top 8.
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Old 09-27-18, 09:47 PM
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Got my money on St. Francis btw
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Old 09-28-18, 07:48 AM
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Toledo Start (1-4 D1) at Toledo Waite (4-1) -- I agree with Eastisbest. Start has faced a much tougher schedule and should win...but they won't. The Indians dream season continues.
Waite lost QB due to hand injury on first series. It was going to be tough to win against a senior laden (30+) Start team and that injury sealed the deal. The Indians never gave up but the dream season is likely over. 8-2 is still a real possibility but the playoffs would take a mathematical miracle.
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Old 09-28-18, 12:00 PM
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Waite lost QB due to hand injury on first series. It was going to be tough to win against a senior laden (30+) Start team and that injury sealed the deal. The Indians never gave up but the dream season is likely over. 8-2 is still a real possibility but the playoffs would take a mathematical miracle.
Loss of the RB hurt more than the loss of the QB. That was not just a good runner but also a good blocker. I measured this one right in my earlier comments.

Thing I also mentioned early, this thread I think, the QB's best shot at a higher division is at the slot. Can't teach height and that family ain't got it. If he could get to 5'9" and up his passing game A LOT he'd have a shot at QB but as is... Looks like they had a fairly capable QB back-up. That bodes well for next year.

Waite is young all through but they seem very knowledgible. It's been the most fun I've had watching a team since mid-2000s. Speed has always been a rare commodity on this side of town but they at least used to have bulk. If they can keep it classy and build some depth and find about 12 guys a year for the lines with a non-McDonald's weight more the 180, they might be able to build a program. A track program wouldn't hurt. Hell, a track wouldn't hurt.
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Old 09-28-18, 09:01 PM
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Fremont Ross beats Lima Senior tonight, 45-28.
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Old 10-01-18, 06:07 PM
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Well, the first two games on my list last week went opposite of the way I picked. Not surprised by Amherst winning, as that game was a true toss up. A little surprised Valley Forge handled EC's passing attack as well as they did. Kudos to Firestone Fan for his views on that game.

Week 6 has some big battles!

Winners in bold.

Toledo CC (5-0) at Whitmer (4-1 D1) -- The Panthers are very good, but I don't see any team beating the Irish until very deep into the playoffs.

Amherst (5-0) at Olmsted Falls (4-1) -- The Comets have become an offensive juggernaut with a powerful running game and a good enough passing attack. That's too much for the Bulldogs, though this should be a close game.

Garfield Hts (5-0 D2) at Valley Forge (4-1) -- I don't think either team is as good as their record, but I like the Bulldogs better than the Patriots.

St Francis DeSales (3-2) at St John's Jesuit (3-2) -- The loser is in a precarious playoff position, while the winner keeps hope alive. I like the Titans in this Catholic battle of Toledo.

Toledo Start (1-4 D1) at Toledo Waite (4-1) -- I agree with Eastisbest. Start has faced a much tougher schedule and should win...but they won't. The Indians dream season continues.
Week 6 was interesting, and all but one game went as expected. I know, I picked Waite...but I really didn't think they would win. Eastisbest was correct in that Start's record was a reflection of a much tougher schedule. I went with Waite just because I wanted to send some positive vibes their way...but it didn't work. The Amherst loss to Olmsted Falls truly surprised me, though. Not just because Amherst lost, as I knew that was a possibility, but it was shocking to me that Falls dismantled them.

Not a many impact games this week. I just figure TCC will beat up Ross and several other contenders will not be challenged. But here are the impact games for Week 7, IMO.

Winners in bold.

Avon Lake (6-0) at Amherst (5-1) -- This now looks like Amherst needs a win over Avon or Avon Lake to feel completely secure about a playoff spot. Not going to happen this week, though.

Napoleon (4-2 D4) at Springfield (5-1) -- The Wildcats haven't beaten anyone of note, and I see the Blue Devils running them off the field.

Toledo SJJ (4-2) at Findlay (3-3 D1) -- I don't see SJJ upsetting TCC again in Week 10, so this is a must-win for the Titans if they are to be a playoff team. Findlay, unfortunately, lost their starting QB...so I see SJJ coming back to Toledo with a victory.

Rocky River (4-2 D3) at Valley Forge (4-2) -- I'm just not sold on the Patriots. I could be, if they get the win this week over the Pirates, though.

Olmsted Falls (5-1) at Berea-Midpark (4-2 D1) -- The Bulldogs showed their mettle with a pounding of Amherst, but can they keep the potent B-M offense off the field enough to secure another big win? Yes, but this could truly go either way.
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Old 10-01-18, 08:01 PM
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Toledo SFS finishes 5-5 at best. They still got Whitmer and Central.

Waite can still go 8-2. Does 8-2 get them in? One of those wins would include Toledo Scott which would give them some decent points.

OF goes 8-2 and gets in. A loss to BMP and they go 7-3 and MAYBE get in?

Valley Fraud finishes 7-3. MAYBE 6-4

Toledo SJJ goes 7-3 and gets in. That BG snafu almost cost them but I believe they get in.
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Old 10-06-18, 09:52 AM
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Week 6 was interesting, and all but one game went as expected. I know, I picked Waite...but I really didn't think they would win. Eastisbest was correct in that Start's record was a reflection of a much tougher schedule. I went with Waite just because I wanted to send some positive vibes their way...but it didn't work. The Amherst loss to Olmsted Falls truly surprised me, though. Not just because Amherst lost, as I knew that was a possibility, but it was shocking to me that Falls dismantled them.

Not a many impact games this week. I just figure TCC will beat up Ross and several other contenders will not be challenged. But here are the impact games for Week 7, IMO.

Winners in bold.

Avon Lake (6-0) at Amherst (5-1) -- This now looks like Amherst needs a win over Avon or Avon Lake to feel completely secure about a playoff spot. Not going to happen this week, though.

Napoleon (4-2 D4) at Springfield (5-1) -- The Wildcats haven't beaten anyone of note, and I see the Blue Devils running them off the field.

Toledo SJJ (4-2) at Findlay (3-3 D1) -- I don't see SJJ upsetting TCC again in Week 10, so this is a must-win for the Titans if they are to be a playoff team. Findlay, unfortunately, lost their starting QB...so I see SJJ coming back to Toledo with a victory.

Rocky River (4-2 D3) at Valley Forge (4-2) -- I'm just not sold on the Patriots. I could be, if they get the win this week over the Pirates, though.

Olmsted Falls (5-1) at Berea-Midpark (4-2 D1) -- The Bulldogs showed their mettle with a pounding of Amherst, but can they keep the potent B-M offense off the field enough to secure another big win? Yes, but this could truly go either way.
Well, we had a lot of toss-up games in Week 7...and I blew the picks on most of them (haha). But...the region did get sorted, for the most part. Back to the games, though...Amherst had Avon Lake on the ropes, but the Shoremen drove at the end to win, as they did vs Avon. Berea-Midpark's offense is scary when it's all clicking, and I believe Olmsted Falls playoff hopes now depend on upsetting Avon Lake. Valley Forge did what they needed to do and should make the playoffs, even with losing to Bay in Week 10. Springfield really hurt themselves, but likely will make the playoffs.

What I'm seeing is nine teams left for eight spots, and barring any unexpected results...it will be some order of the top eight of today that will be the top eight to end the regular season. The only thing to change it, IMO, would be an Olmsted Falls upset of Avon Lake. That would put Falls in, and knock Toledo SJJ out.

On to the defining games of Week 8! Winners in bold.

Berea-Midpark (5-2 D1) at Avon Lake (7-0) -- This one should have plenty of offensive fireworks! The Shoremen dodged bullets vs Avon and Amherst. Can the Titans be the team that finally deals the Shoremen a loss? Yes. Will they? Yes.

Amherst (5-2) at North Olmsted (3-4) -- I include this game because the Comets have suffered two tough losses in a row, and the Eagles are capable of beating Amherst if the Comets are looking ahead to Avon in Week 9. I think Amherst bounces back, though.
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By the way, I've seen seven of the nine playoff contenders either in person or on TV (have not seen Valley Forge or Springfield), and I'm very comfortable predicting that it will take a team's near flawless A-game, combined with a subpar game from Toledo CC, for anyone to knock off the Irish in this region. It can be done, of course, but I don't like the chances of it happening. The Irish won't face an equal until they see Hoban. Well, not really an equal. Hoban is a notch above.
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Old 10-07-18, 11:46 AM
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I think defensively Anthony Wayne can slow TCC down. On the other hand TCC is dominant defensively as well. IMO the region goes through those two with TCC having a huge edge athlete wise.
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