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Old 06-20-19, 02:44 PM
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Pre-season favorites? Will Turpin bump off W. Clermont?
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Old 06-21-19, 07:43 AM
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Turpin has a lot of talent this year, I think they win the ECC
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Old 06-21-19, 08:51 AM
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Pre-Season Top 3: Turpin, Walnut Hills, and West Clermont
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Old 06-21-19, 12:05 PM
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Turpin will be very good. They can shoot and have some good size on their team.
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Old 06-22-19, 05:52 PM
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Agree on Turpin, will be better this coming year. What does Milford return?
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Old 06-24-19, 05:06 PM
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All Turpin...
unless...they stick with the zone only D
unless... Walnut gets new recruits
unless...WC gets some dudes around THEIR big man
Milford: could be VERY good.
Kings and Loveland BOTH have huge and solid good groups of juniors
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Old 06-24-19, 06:01 PM
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All Turpin...
unless...they stick with the zone only D
unless... Walnut gets new recruits
unless...WC gets some dudes around THEIR big man
Milford: could be VERY good.
Kings and Loveland BOTH have huge and solid good groups of juniors
Saw kings this summer and they looked really bad. Maybe they were missing some guys...
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Old 06-24-19, 06:25 PM
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Good time to look and see how much the ECC varsity teams return for the 2019-20 season (based on playing in at least 10 games and averaging at least 1 ppg). Doesn't count schools who have transfers:

#1-- Turpin 35.9 ppg--Holt 15.1, Spencer 7.2, Bell 4.4, Shetler 3.5, Cantrella 3.2, Tyszkiewicz 1.3

#2-- Walnut Hills 28.4--Smith 12.6, Grant 7.8, Miller 3.8, Murphy 1.7, Poynter 1.3, Borgmann 1.2

#3-- Withrow 28.1--Mason 11.7, Whatley 8.2, Edwards 4.1, Diop 2.1, Lamb 2.0

#4-- W. Clermont 24.7--Ames 10.2, Vianello 9.6, Turner 2.5, Wilzbach 2.4

#5-- Loveland 19.3--Foust 7.0, Cox 5.8, Hedgepeth 3.8, Soth 1.9, Towle 1.8

#6-- Anderson 17.6--Camden 9.0, Kelly 4.0, Overbeek 3.6

#7-- Milford 8.1--Liles 8.1

#8-- Kings 6.8--Barnett 4.9, Connaroe 1.9

Obviously JV players moving up may contribute right away and the unexpected transfer player that arrives over the summer can alter outcomes--appears that Turpin will be the pre-season favorite after going 11-3 and 2nd place this past year. Walnut and Withrow should be the top challengers for Turpin next season. West Clermont (must replace 29 ppg), Loveland (replace 36 ppg)and Anderson (replace 25 ppg) will likely be in the 4th-6th range. Milford and Kings have to replace major graduation losses with Milford losing 43 ppg of scoring and Kings 39 ppg--gonna need massive help from JV squads.
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Old 06-25-19, 12:11 PM
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I would favor Turpin as the preseason favorite. Although I am anxious to see how Holt plays without Haddad, who received a lot of attention. I would say Walnut will probably be my 2nd choice with Smith and Grant inside, plus they played a lot of freshman and sophomores last year. Plus their JH program is the best in the ECC. I think Milford and WC will round out the top 4.
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Old 06-25-19, 12:24 PM
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I would favor Turpin as the preseason favorite. Although I am anxious to see how Holt plays without Haddad, who received a lot of attention. I would say Walnut will probably be my 2nd choice with Smith and Grant inside, plus they played a lot of freshman and sophomores last year. Plus their JH program is the best in the ECC. I think Milford and WC will round out the top 4.
i forgot about smith at Walnut...the guy can put the ball in the bucket!
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Old 06-25-19, 06:09 PM
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Turpin, Walnut, and West Clermont are easily the class of the league. My money's on Turpin. Walnut inevitably will find a transfer (or two) to complement their inside strength. Does WC have enough to surround the big guy? A lot of their scoring and depth graduated last year, and their JV and freshman teams were pretty bad last season.

Loveland, Withrow, Milford are in the next tier. Loveland has five rising seniors coming back and all of them played heavy varsity minutes last year. Withrow has size and plenty of experience coming back. Milford lost a lot from last year but their JV was decent, and they're always solid.

Kings and Anderson are gonna be terrible again.
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Old 07-13-19, 01:55 PM
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Will Anderson ever be good? Can this guy coach at all?
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Old 07-13-19, 04:33 PM
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Will Anderson ever be good? Can this guy coach at all?
I actually think heís a solid coach, talent at Anderson has been terrible. And lost a stud incoming 9th grader to cov cath for next year.
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Old 07-13-19, 07:38 PM
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What makes you think he's solid? He's been there how long 4-5 yrs.? 3 straight seasons with a losing record. Maybe 1 year they had a winning record. Turpin is now ruling that district.
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Old 07-13-19, 08:52 PM
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AHS since 2015 had 11 wins, 14 wins, 10 wins, 10 wins, 2 wins = 47 wins (9.4 per year)

Turpin since 2015 had 17 wins, 7 wins, 6 wins, 5 wins, 18 wins = 53 wins (10.6 per year)

Turpin averaging 1 more win per year and AHS won more games than Turpin 3 of the 5 years. Pretty even performance overall.

Two small D-1 schools in the same district splits the talent on a very cyclical basis. Combining 2 high schools (Glen Este and Amelia) has made quite a difference for West Clermont the past two years in the ECC and overall--maybe Forest Hills does that someday--until then it's very tough for Turpin, Anderson and Kings to compete year in and year out vs. much bigger D-1 schools in the ECC.
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Old 07-13-19, 08:57 PM
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Turpin trending up with a young coach who appears to be pretty good. I'm just asking because this guy has been at Anderson how long? They don't appear to be getting better. Turpin obviously had very good talent last year and back this year. Their coach has been there just 2-3 years I think?
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Old 07-13-19, 09:04 PM
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Kid from Anderson to Cov. Catholic, they are recruiting everywhere.
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Old 07-13-19, 10:32 PM
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Kid from Anderson to Cov. Catholic, they are recruiting everywhere.
You must not know much about Cov Cath or that family. They donít have to recruit- have one of the best coaches and programs around. the parents shop their kids around. Donít be surprised if he winds up at West Clermont or elsewhere at some point in the next couple of years.
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Old 07-13-19, 10:45 PM
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Umm, know zero about the family. CC recruits, agree he is a good coach.
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Old 07-13-19, 10:49 PM
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Hey Comet, Anderson coach Detell came from your staff correct?
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Old 07-14-19, 08:49 AM
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Hey Comet, Anderson coach Detell came from your staff correct?
Carl--Coach D was on the staff at Mason for 5 years--Coach Richards staff!
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Old 07-14-19, 12:19 PM
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Thanks Comet, wasn't Ries at Loveland also part of Coach Richard's program?
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Old 07-14-19, 12:21 PM
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Where did Turpin's coach come from?
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Old 07-15-19, 12:40 AM
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Umm, know zero about the family. CC recruits, agree he is a good coach.
They really donít have to recruit- Kids come to great programs.
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Old 07-15-19, 12:50 PM
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They really donít have to recruit- Kids come to great programs.
Right. We know Moeller doesnít recruit either.
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Old 07-15-19, 10:02 PM
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Right. We know Moeller doesnít recruit either.
Right- because no one wants to play for a back to back state champion team. The struggle is real...
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Old 07-16-19, 05:58 AM
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AHS since 2015 had 11 wins, 14 wins, 10 wins, 10 wins, 2 wins = 47 wins (9.4 per year)

Turpin since 2015 had 17 wins, 7 wins, 6 wins, 5 wins, 18 wins = 53 wins (10.6 per year)

Turpin averaging 1 more win per year and AHS won more games than Turpin 3 of the 5 years. Pretty even performance overall.

Two small D-1 schools in the same district splits the talent on a very cyclical basis. Combining 2 high schools (Glen Este and Amelia) has made quite a difference for West Clermont the past two years in the ECC and overall--maybe Forest Hills does that someday--until then it's very tough for Turpin, Anderson and Kings to compete year in and year out vs. much bigger D-1 schools in the ECC.
Turpin/Anderson losses a lot of talent to Mcnicholas also who seems to beat both more often than not. WC probably has lost a few as well.
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Old 07-16-19, 12:38 PM
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Right- because no one wants to play for a back to back state champion team. The struggle is real...
Letís not act like kids just started going to Moeller from public schools the last couple years.
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