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View Poll Results: Who wins?
Hoban by 15+ 52 57.14%
Hoban by 8-14 22 24.18%
Hoban by 1-7 2 2.20%
Avon by 1-7 12 13.19%
Avon by 8-14 0 0%
Avon by 15+ 3 3.30%
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Old 11-16-18, 10:13 PM
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D II State Semifinal: Avon (12-1) vs Archbishop Hoban (13-0)

What can Avon do to pull the upset?
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Old 11-16-18, 10:14 PM
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What can Avon do to pull the upset?
How do you know that is the semifinal?

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Old 11-16-18, 10:15 PM
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Old 11-16-18, 10:19 PM
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Massillon vs Hoban are the 2 closest teams. The extra mileage between WW and Avon is negligible compared to massillon and Winton woods. It is actually a longer drive from Massillon to cincy than Avon to cincy.

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Old 11-16-18, 10:28 PM
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Massillon vs Hoban are the 2 closest teams. The extra mileage between WW and Avon is negligible compared to massillon and Winton woods. It is actually a longer drive from Massillon to cincy than Avon to cincy.

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Itís an extra 15 min to Columbus from Avon then Massillon.
It will be the same pairings as last year.
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Old 11-16-18, 10:31 PM
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The OHSAA is waiting for my posting to determine the pairings.



Hoban vs Massillon.



Knock one of the cheaters out now. Don't give them both a shot at the title.

Sp, you donít think Winton Woods is taking advantage of their proximity to the Cincy urban core?


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Old 11-16-18, 10:34 PM
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Avon needs to trap and counter to win this game. ON defense make them pass to beat you. Go man to man and bring the house. If they pass to beat you, so be it. But I would sell out. Have more guys than they can block.
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Old 11-16-18, 10:34 PM
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Avon v. Hoban in southern Cuyahoga County and Massillon v. Winton Woods in Columbus is my call.
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Old 11-16-18, 10:39 PM
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I’d like to see this game at Brunswick again but minus those winds from last year. That really set Avon back by making Elder go for it on 4th down a couple times inside the 20. Avon had chances to put Hoban down but couldn’t get it done in that 1st quarter.
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Old 11-16-18, 10:47 PM
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Just announced on Spectrum. Massillon vs Winton Woods... Hoban vs Avon
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Old 11-16-18, 11:07 PM
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Hoban by a bunch. Can we start talking about Week 15 Massillon vs Hoban?
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Old 11-16-18, 11:18 PM
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Well, here we are again. After the game last season I felt there was a very good chance of a rematch. It happened. Hoban is obviously the favorite, but Avon will make them earn it. I can’t imagine there have been too many times in history where the same state final four match ups in any division occurred in back to back seasons.
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Old 11-16-18, 11:22 PM
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How does this Avon team compare to last year's?
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Old 11-16-18, 11:23 PM
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Well, here we are again. After the game last season I felt there was a very good chance of a rematch. It happened. Hoban is obviously the favorite, but Avon will make them earn it. I canít imagine there have been too many times in history where the same state final four match ups in any division occurred in back to back seasons.
Tonight was a very impressive win for Avon. Looks like they are peaking at the right time. I donít know much about Avon, how are they compared to last yearís team. Bigger, smaller, faster?
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Old 11-17-18, 02:44 AM
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I dont have stats or anything, but my feeling is their lines are bigger, and strong and more mature this year. The QB i think started last year as well....seems to be getting used more in the run game than last year from my memory......but he is throwing really well in the last few games.....he has made some nice plays in the past couple of weeks. Running back (actually the backup) he is a workhorse and seems to find the gaps well.......
Was really surprised they beat TCC tonight!!! They won that game tonight because of their line play....especially on Ofense. I like their receivers as well........
Will still be a tall order for them on Friday....but hey who knows!!!!

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Old 11-17-18, 06:24 AM
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Of course they are. It's a magnet like flies on poopoo. But they're not throwing nike shoes out of helicopters and buying coaches and facilities. And putting up billboards on I-77. They don't have cash to throw around.

I think a more logical sorting of your gripes would go a long way to taking the two-year old out of them. Faulting a community for investing their own money in the facilities? Massillon isn't exactly Bexley, spending their own money is pretty much without controversy and fair game. It's commendable. If someone moves in to the community, regardless the enticements, the system is mandated to provide every opportunity. If "the reason" can't be proven to be athletics (if that's even against a rule), what's to be done?

I do however agree, more are probably going to be pulling for Avon than for Hoban. But that could probably be said for almost all schools in the state, regardless public or private. I don't know Hoban personally, never seen them play and do not know how they build their team. I'm rooting for Avon just because they seem to bring a nice, respectful fan base and they play hard.
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Old 11-17-18, 06:49 AM
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Hoban comes in on a string of 7 straight "running clock" games. The region they came out of had 5 of the 7 games "running clock", three by Hoban and two by Maple Heights.
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Old 11-17-18, 11:52 AM
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Calpreps, which is fun to look at but doesn’t mean much, has it Hoban 38-24. Last year they had it something like 48-3 prior to last year’s game. I think 24 is quite generous, considering what Hoban has done the last few years.
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Old 11-17-18, 11:55 AM
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Calpreps, which is fun to look at but doesn’t mean much, has it Hoban 38-24. Last year they had it something like 48-3 prior to last year’s game. I think 24 is quite generous, considering what Hoban has done the last few years.
I will be impressed as hell if Avon can manage to score 24 on Hoban. Hoban has not been scored on in the second half of any game since week 7. That’s crazy.

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Old 11-17-18, 12:15 PM
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I'm going to say that Avon doesn't have a chance and is going to get pounded. It worked the last time.
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Old 11-17-18, 12:50 PM
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Avon does not stand a chance. They will not be able to defend Hoban's lethal attack. Unless Hoban turns the ball over a bunch, does not play well, and Avon converts all this into points, I see Hoban running away with this one.
Hoban - 28
Avon - 3
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Old 11-17-18, 12:59 PM
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Good luck Avon! Pull the upset! Great coach, consistently great program.
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Old 11-17-18, 04:31 PM
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Was at the game last year. Avon started strong but they struggled as the game went. I don’t think this is Avon’s most talented team, but their qb has willed them through this playoff run.
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Old 11-17-18, 04:36 PM
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Neither team will be permitted within 20 yards of the 50 yard line in pre-game warmups.
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Old 11-17-18, 04:50 PM
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Good luck Avon! Pull the upset! Great coach, consistently great program.
Good luck to the Tigers, as well. No disrespect to Hoban, Winton Woods or the people clamoring for a Hoban versus Massillon final, but Iíve wanted to see an Avon versus Massillon final ever since the two began opening each season as a first scrimmage. Those are fun, but very controlled. I would love to the two go at it for all the marbles. Begin the season hitting each other and end the season hitting each other. Symmetry.
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Hoban comes in on a string of 7 straight "running clock" games. The region they came out of had 5 of the 7 games "running clock", three by Hoban and two by Maple Heights.
I believe Hoban has put a running clock on 11 of 13 opponents this year. A couple have been able to stop the clock from running with some late game scores against the JV.
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Old 11-17-18, 08:59 PM
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Thought venues weren't announced until Sunday afternoons.
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Old 11-17-18, 09:12 PM
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Thought venues weren't announced until Sunday afternoons.
They are all on ohsaa.org

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