LOL........... well I think we can now see the truth. Wayne fans can only justify this <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">game</a> because of a hopefully big "gate" and an easy win. Pretty sad if you ask me.
And if you try to point this out to them, they will just taunt and attack you.
That is what people do when they know they are wrong.
And I am still laughing. Can you really not see that you are the only one that is wrong about this. You have posted on at least 2 other threads about this topic and have written paragraphs on top of paragraphs trying to prove your point. Its hilarious because you are spending all this time trying to convince us that you are right and you tell everyone that replies to your comments that they are wrong and that they know they are wrong. Even funnier thing is not one single person has agreed with you despite all the posts you have made. No one has said yeah he has a good point or yeah that makes sense, no one agrees with you but yet everyone else is wrong and you are right. Am I getting this straight? Think about it man you cant be that dumb.
And I am still laughing. Can you really not see that you are the only one that is wrong about this. You have posted on at least 2 other threads about this topic and have written paragraphs on top of paragraphs trying to prove your point. Its hilarious because you are spending all this time trying to convince us that you are right and you tell everyone that replies to your comments that they are wrong and that they know they are wrong. Even funnier thing is not one single person has agreed with you despite all the posts you have made. No one has said yeah he has a good point or yeah that makes sense, no one agrees with you but yet everyone else is wrong and you are right. Am I getting this straight? Think about it man you cant be that dumb.
And I am still laughing. Can you really not see that you are the only one that is wrong about this. You have posted on at least 2 other threads about this topic and have written paragraphs on top of paragraphs trying to prove your point. Its hilarious because you are spending all this time trying to convince us that you are right and you tell everyone that replies to your comments that they are wrong and that they know they are wrong. Even funnier thing is not one single person has agreed with you despite all the posts you have made. No one has said yeah he has a good point or yeah that makes sense, no one agrees with you but yet everyone else is wrong and you are right. Am I getting this straight? Think about it man you cant be that dumb.
so you don't think that a top level prigram in Ohio with 800 boys playing a team who has mostly been under .500 for several years and has 400 boys is unfair? Is that what you are telling me? You also think it is OK for a state power like Centerville with their 1100 boys to play down and out Greenville and their 350 boys?
Seriously, you think those are good games that are fair for BOTH sides? Seriously, you really want to tell me those are good games and there is nothing wrong with playing those?
You are right. These are terrific games. In fact, I don't know why Greenville is not playing against Wayne as well as Centerville. Shocking that Wayne did not pick up Greenville in a nonleague game to be honest. Also, Wayne and Tecumseh would be a great rivalry. I don't know why those two do not play every single year.
To be honest, I don't know why the OHSAA playoffs are not all just one division. It is stupid to divide them up by how many kids they have. I mean, you just need 11 kids. There is no reason that Northridge and Bethel should not be playing against Wayne and Centerville. Thanks for opening my eyes Ugotboomed. You have made it all so clear to me now.
so you don't think that a top level prigram in Ohio with 800 boys playing a team who has mostly been under .500 for several years and has 400 boys is unfair? Is that what you are telling me? You also think it is OK for a state power like Centerville with their 1100 boys to play down and out Greenville and their 350 boys?
Seriously, you think those are good <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">games</a> that are fair for BOTH sides? Seriously, you really want to tell me those are good games and there is nothing wrong with playing those? Wow............ I didn't realize people were as dumb as you seem to be. My bad.
You are right. These are terrific <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">games</a>. In fact, I don't know why Greenville is not playing against Wayne as well as Centerville. Shocking that Wayne did not pick up Greenville in a nonleague game to be honest. Also, Wayne and Tecumseh would be a great rivalry. I don't know why those two do not play every single year.
To be honest, I don't know why the OHSAA playoffs are not all just one division. It is stupid to divide them up by how many kids they have. I mean, you just need 11 kids. There is no reason that Northridge and Bethel should not be playing against Wayne and Centerville. Thanks for opening my eyes Ugotboomed. You have made it all so clear to me now.
Wait................. my bad. I got mixed up there. You are a moron. Sorry.
You know what you are absolutely right. The biggest and best schools in Ohio should play each other all 10 weeks of every football season. Wayne should play the GCL-South for all non league games. But no wait your also right there should be no OHSAA division Wayne should play Bethel Northridge Milton Union and Stebbins because they are all surrounding schools. It is shocking that Wayne didnt pick up a valuable game against Greenville would of done wonders for the Harbins. I also believe that Ohio State play Moorehead State, Wittenberg, Mount Union and Ohio Domincan in football every year cuz hell all ya need is 11 guys right? Now in closing, everyone on here is a moron, I am right about everything I say..No one elses opinion matters but mine, Miamisburg is the greatest sports school in Ohio which is what has given me my great education, self esteem and confidence to post on yappi and call everyone who stands in my way wrong. Now, after your done reading this post you will know what you sound like.
You know what you are absolutely right. The biggest and best schools in Ohio should play each other all 10 weeks of every football season. Wayne should play the GCL-South for all non league games. But no wait your also right there should be no OHSAA division Wayne should play Bethel Northridge Milton Union and Stebbins because they are all surrounding schools. It is shocking that Wayne didnt pick up a valuable game against Greenville would of done wonders for the Harbins. I also believe that Ohio State play Moorehead State, Wittenberg, Mount Union and Ohio Domincan in football every year cuz hell all ya need is 11 guys right? Now in closing, everyone on here is a moron, I am right about everything I say..No one elses opinion matters but mine, Miamisburg is the greatest sports school in Ohio which is what has given me my great education, self esteem and confidence to post on yappi and call everyone who stands in my way wrong. Now, after your done reading this post you will know what you sound like.
When you get the chance, just answer the question. That would be nice of you.
So what! Public vs public or private vs private, what difference does it make? Moeller is not a state power, by the way. The last time they won R4 was 1997 and last state was 1985.
Moeller won 44-7 in 2010. So, it's not every year but they do play and have before.
Blue this is a losing argument. Mooney has played moeller once in the last seven years which is the same amount middletown has played them in the same time frame
Blue this is a losing argument. Mooney has played moeller once in the last seven years which is the same amount middletown has played them in the same time frame
Once I looked into it more, they didn't play as often as I thought. For some reason, I remembered them playing several years but I'm apparently having the same problem as my dad who remembered Elder defeating Massillon years ago (nope). Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. But many tried that with me and I'm still here. Maybe I can try not to be such a jasckbutt all the time and research before each post, instead of just sometimes. But so many people are too easy to irritate...sad.
Once I looked into it more, they didn't play as often as I thought. For some reason, I remembered them playing several years but I'm apparently having the same problem as my dad who remembered Elder defeating Massillon years ago (nope).
I hear ya lol. Maybe they played more in the 70s and 80s. I cant believe middletown even scheduled moeller in the 70s and 80s when one loss knocked you out of the playoffs and princeton wasnt easy to beat either
When you get the chance, just answer the question. That would be nice of you.
If both schools agree to play these crossover league games, then yes they are fair. For the smaller schools, playing against these big state powers may help them in the long run for their season. But you would never think of it that way.
If both schools agree to play these crossover league games, then yes they are fair. For the smaller schools, playing against these big state powers may help them in the long run for their season. But you would never think of it that way.
How does losing to a state power make your team better? You are right, I do not think of it that way. If you are going to post the idea, then tell me how that works. How does a whippin make your team, who is half the size and normally below .500, a better team?
How does losing to a state power make your team better? You are right, I do not think of it that way. If you are going to post the idea, then tell me how that works. How does a whippin make your team, who is half the size and normally below .500, a better team?
And what if both schools did not agree?
Well for one, let's say the said state power is having a down year. Clearly you aren't giving these smaller schools any credit at all as you think it will be a blowout, but I'm sure the kids and staff go into every game thinking they'll win. So let's say the small school somehow beats the state power. That's a huge confidence booster, plus a lot of Harbins. What if the smaller school loses, as you so confidently predict, if they play the team tough and do some good things in all phases of the game, you can point these good things out. As a smaller school, if you move the ball and get a few scores, then you should be able to do that against teams in your own division, effectively at that. So in a way, it can be a moral victory. Now if they get a "whippin" as you put it, they can still dwell on the positive things they did in films, point out the things they did bad, work on them and get better as the season wears on. Even D1 teams, like Wayne will get a "whippin" from time to time, the key is to learn from it and get better.
Oh and if both schools do not agree to play, then I'm sure the games would not be played. Duh!
Well for one, let's say the said state power is having a down year. Clearly you aren't giving these smaller schools any credit at all as you think it will be a blowout, but I'm sure the kids and staff go into every game thinking they'll win. So let's say the small school somehow beats the state power. That's a huge confidence booster, plus a lot of Harbins. What if the smaller school loses, as you so confidently predict, if they play the team tough and do some good things in all phases of the game, you can point these good things out. As a smaller school, if you move the ball and get a few scores, then you should be able to do that against teams in your own division, effectively at that. So in a way, it can be a moral victory. Now if they get a "whippin" as you put it, they can still dwell on the positive things they did in films, point out the things they did bad, work on them and get better as the season wears on. Even D1 teams, like Wayne will get a "whippin" from time to time, the key is to learn from it and get better.
Oh and if both schools do not agree to play, then I'm sure the games would not be played. Duh!
Wayne has not had a "down year" in a LONG time. Yeah, they have had teams that did not make the playoffs. However, they were still very good and talented. As for this year, look at the title of this thread. Wayne feels they can make a run at the state title. Butler lost a ton of talent off of last years team. This isn't hard to figure out here.
What about the Greenville vs Centerville game? When was the last time Greenville fielded a solid team? We are talking about a program that has been down for years. They just hired a coach last month. Again, this one is not hard to figure out.
Last year Northmont was pretty down. They went 4-6, their worst record in years. Yet, they still beat Sidney 62-5. This one REALLY is easy to figure out.
So, when you tell me that one of the small schools could win, I understand that. In this case, I don't see any of these teams have much of a chance.
As for when I typed what if both teams do not agree, what I meant was looking at it this way: What if one team, say the small school, wanted out of the game but the big school would not agree to get out of the contract? I don't see how that is right or fair at all.
Wayne has not had a "down year" in a LONG time. Yeah, they have had teams that did not make the playoffs. However, they were still very good and talented. As for this year, look at the title of this thread. Wayne feels they can make a run at the state title. Butler lost a ton of talent off of last years team. This isn't hard to figure out here.
What about the Greenville vs Centerville game? When was the last time Greenville fielded a solid team? We are talking about a program that has been down for years. They just hired a coach last month. Again, this one is not hard to figure out.
Last year Northmont was pretty down. They went 4-6, their worst record in years. Yet, they still beat Sidney 62-5. This one REALLY is easy to figure out.
So, when you tell me that one of the small schools could win, I understand that. In this case, I don't see any of these teams have much of a chance.
As for when I typed what if both teams do not agree, what I meant was looking at it this way: What if one team, say the small school, wanted out of the game but the big school would not agree to get out of the contract? I don't see how that is right or fair at all.
This country called the United States is getting soft. I can understand the larger school pulling out of the game, especially if they can schedule something that would appear to be more competitive. But for the smaller team to not want to compete because the odds are against them and they might get smashed sends the wrong message. No matter what the odds, you line up and give it your all. That goes for life as well as the sports arena. I like to think that athletics help prepare young men and women for challanges in life and for adults to express "we dont want to compete because we are overmatched and will lose" is not preparing our young people. Boy, if only the Chinese knew how soft some people in this country is getting, they would come over here and kick our butts. Luckily, most people dont agree with his opinion.
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This country called the United States is getting soft. I can understand the larger school pulling out of the game, especially if they can schedule something that would appear to be more competitive. But for the smaller team to not want to compete because the odds are against them and they might get smashed sends the wrong message. No matter what the odds, you line up and give it your all. That goes for life as well as the sports arena. I like to think that athletics help prepare young men and women for challanges in life and for adults to express "we dont want to compete because we are overmatched and will lose" is not preparing our young people. Boy, if only the Chinese knew how soft some people in this country is getting, they would come over here and kick our .
Wayne has not had a "down year" in a LONG time. Yeah, they have had teams that did not make the playoffs. However, they were still very good and talented. As for this year, look at the title of this thread. Wayne feels they can make a run at the state title. Butler lost a ton of talent off of last years team. This isn't hard to figure out here.
What about the Greenville vs Centerville game? When was the last time Greenville fielded a solid team? We are talking about a program that has been down for years. They just hired a coach last month. Again, this one is not hard to figure out.
Last year Northmont was pretty down. They went 4-6, their worst record in years. Yet, they still beat Sidney 62-5. This one REALLY is easy to figure out.
So, when you tell me that one of the small schools could win, I understand that. In this case, I don't see any of these teams have much of a chance.
As for when I typed what if both teams do not agree, what I meant was looking at it this way: What if one team, say the small school, wanted out of the game but the big school would not agree to get out of the contract? I don't see how that is right or fair at all.
This thread was started by a Northmont poster. There is not one Wayne fan on here that is saying that Wayne will win state. We are though excited about this season and feel we can make a run at region 4.
Wayne does have down years, they are just defined differently. A down year at Wayne is:
-Any year they lose to Centerville*
-Any year they do not win the GWOC-C*
-Any year that they beat Centerville and win the GWOC-C but fail to make the playoffs.
* winning region 4 makes it a successful season and nullifies the previous statements.
The GWOC-N and GWOC-S are aware of the cross-over games. They had a chance back in the beginning not to join the GWOC and could of formed there own leagues. Greenville was the only team that left.
Wayne has not had a "down year" in a LONG time. Yeah, they have had teams that did not make the playoffs. However, they were still very good and talented. As for this year, look at the title of this thread. Wayne feels they can make a run at the state title. Butler lost a ton of talent off of last years team. This isn't hard to figure out here.
What about the Greenville vs Centerville game? When was the last time Greenville fielded a solid team? We are talking about a program that has been down for years. They just hired a coach last month. Again, this one is not hard to figure out.
Last year Northmont was pretty down. They went 4-6, their worst record in years. Yet, they still beat Sidney 62-5. This one REALLY is easy to figure out.
So, when you tell me that one of the small schools could win, I understand that. In this case, I don't see any of these teams have much of a chance.
As for when I typed what if both teams do not agree, what I meant was looking at it this way: What if one team, say the small school, wanted out of the game but the big school would not agree to get out of the contract? I don't see how that is right or fair at all.
If the small school wants out of the game I would assume they would need to take that up with the GWOC since it's a crossover game. Why would it be fair for the small school to back out and leave the bigger school with only nine or even eight games depending on the team. That doesn't seem very fair.
This thread was started by a Northmont poster. There is not one Wayne fan on here that is saying that Wayne will win state. We are though excited about this season and feel we can make a run at region 4.
Wayne does have down years, they are just defined differently. A down year at Wayne is:
-Any year they lose to Centerville*
-Any year they do not win the GWOC-C*
-Any year that they beat Centerville and win the GWOC-C but fail to make the playoffs.
* winning region 4 makes it a successful season and nullifies the previous statements.
The GWOC-N and GWOC-S are aware of the cross-over games. They had a chance back in the beginning not to join the GWOC and could of formed there own leagues. Greenville was the only team that left.
That and there are dues you have to pay every year to stay in the gwoc. So I guess they don't feel it's that bad
Wrong is wrong? This game is stupid? You've got to be kidding me. There's nothing wrong with this whole thing whatsoever. Hilarious.
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