Hoover hasn't played McKinley anywhere near as well as Massillon has. Try getting your warped facts straight, Mr. 41-0....Maybe that's why you continue to duck the Tigers.
hey you forgot one, here ill help you out...49-14 care to post the score from two years ago when a 3 win Hoover team visited Fawcett to play a playoff bound #1 seed Bulldog team and was forced to play a soph backup QB for a half? man that game must have gotten ugly.
still waiting for you to tell me how badly you beat us ahead 34-2 at the half...
Hoover has been in the playoffs as much as anyone in the area. weve had some tough losses and weve won our share. weve played in the final game. and if that game had gone 3 points our way instead of theirs youd find some way to belittle it anyway. again theres no shame in Hoovers tradition.
Hoover may have been in the play-offs alot but they still have a losing record in the play-offs.That's nothing to brag about.All that shows is when they play the Big Boys they lose more than they win.
BTW-I was screaming my lungs out for Hoover when they played in the State Finals against Toledo St Francis.I still think Hoover had the best team in the State that year.You blew out the first two teams you played in the play-offs that year,and they were both real good teams.
You dodged my question.What is Hoovers record against McKinley? Are you ashamed to post it? And what is Hoovers record in the play-offs when they play the Big Boys?
i wasn't bringing up anything until the other knucklehead showed up with his arrogance. Hoover has traditionally played Mck as well as anyone around here. Viking fans have nothing to hang our heads about.
Hoover has traditionally played McK as well as anyone around here? WHAT
Hoover has traditionally played McK as well as anyone around here? WHAT
BTW-What is your record against Massillon?
what is your record vs Massillon? and each time they have beaten us they have been region champs and that also includes a state runner up season. so we havent exactly lost to just any Tiger teams.
you can roll your eyes all you want...go back and look at the scores. sure youve blown us out a few times, a couple vs our worst teams, but more often than not you were in a game and knew it.
what is your record vs Massillon? and each time they have beaten us they have been region champs and that also includes a state runner up season. so we havent exactly lost to just any Tiger teams.
you can roll your eyes all you want...go back and look at the scores. sure youve blown us out a few times, a couple vs our worst teams, but more often than not you were in a game and knew it.
What is our record vs Massillon? Since the play-offs started were just about even over the last 40 years.I would hate to see your record against the tigers if you played them every year.Keep making excuses excuses and more excuses about your record against Massillon.
With your losing record in the play-offs,it gives us a pretty good idea about what your record would be against the tigers.Why don't you schedule them? Like GlenOak has? I think we know the answer to that.
BTW-Do you want to compare our play-off record(When it counts) against Massillon's play-off record? We easily have a better play-off record than Massillon does with our 34-17 play-off record.That's not even to mention our 3 State Championships to there ZERO NONE NADA,just like Hoovers.Hey,you got something in common with Massillon
I wouldn't be bragging about your games and record against McKinley if I were you.It's nothing to brag about that more than often you were in the game against McKinley. You got BEAT and like you said sometimes BEAT BAD!!
What is our record vs Massillon? Since the play-offs started were just about even over the last 40 years.I would hate to see your record against the tigers if you played them every year.Keep making excuses excuses and more excuses about your record against Massillon.
With your losing record in the play-offs,it gives us a pretty good idea about what your record would be against the tigers.Why don't you schedule them? Like GlenOak has? I think we know the answer to that.
BTW-Do you want to compare our play-off record(When it counts) against Massillon's play-off record? We easily have a better play-off record than Massillon does with our 34-17 play-off record.That's not even to mention our 3 State Championships to there ZERO NONE NADA,just like Hoovers.Hey,you got something in common with Massillon
I wouldn't be bragging about your games and record against McKinley if I were you.It's nothing to brag about that more than often you were in the game against McKinley. You got BEAT and like you said sometimes BEAT BAD!!
its not an excuse its a fact, look it up. i love that you ripped jaf for posting Mcks playoff record as a member of the Fed(which is relevant given the context of the conversation) yet you quantify your record with Massillon over just the playoff era. then you go on a tangent about Massillon which really has nothing to do with what we are talking about. but then who am i to get in the way of a a Massillon bash. and i said Hoover has played as well as anyone not won more so the quality of the games is relevant.of course the object is to win but if you listened to some of your fanbase youd think youve won every game in the series by 6 TDs. everybody gets beat bad sometime even the mighty Pups .
its not an excuse its a fact, look it up. i love that you ripped jaf for posting Mcks playoff record as a member of the Fed(which is relevant given the context of the conversation) yet you quantify your record with Massillon over just the playoff era. then you go on a tangent about Massillon which really has nothing to do with what we are talking about. but then who am i to get in the way of a a Massillon bash. and i said Hoover has played as well as anyone not won more so the quality of the games is relevant.of course the object is to win but if you listened to some of your fanbase youd think youve won every game in the series by 6 TDs. everybody gets beat bad sometime even the mighty Pups .
Lets cut to the chase.You started this by saying Hoover plays McKinley as tough as anyone around this area.That's a fantasy of yours.MASSILLON has played the Bulldogs tougher than Hoover.That's a FACT.
Since I thought you knew the answer was Massillon,I thought I would ask you how Hoover has faired against the tigers? My point was both Massillon and McKinley have winning records against big bad Hoover.And both teams have over twice the wins over Hoover than vise-versa.Those are FACTS brother.You need to learn how to live with it.
Lets cut to the chase.You started this by saying Hoover plays McKinley as tough as anyone around this area.That's a fantasy of yours.MASSILLON has played the Bulldogs tougher than Hoover.That's a FACT.
Since I thought you knew the answer was Massillon,I thought I would ask you how Hoover has faired against the tigers? My point was both Massillon and McKinley have winning records against big bad Hoover.And both teams have over twice the wins over Hoover than vise-versa.Those are FACTS brother.You need to learn how to live with it.
this thing started with Bobs fantasy that Mck today, not 20, 30, 40 years ago, is miles ahead of the Fed. its just not so. im sorry to be the one to break it to you guys that there are other quality programs in the area beyond Mass and Mck but you have to stop believing in Santa and the Easter bunny sometime.
this thing started with Bobs fantasy that Mck today, not 20, 30, 40 years ago, is miles ahead of the Fed. its just not so. im sorry to be the one to break it to you guys that there are other quality programs in the area beyond Mass and Mck but you have to stop believing in Santa and the Easter bunny sometime.
13-5,Is that a FACT or Santa? Hoover has a losing record in the play-offs,is that a FACT or the Easter bunny?
Is 1997 and 1998 20,30,40 years ago as you said? NO,i hate to be the one to break it to you.But again FACTS ruin your fantasy or your Santa and Easter bunny.That's 2 State Championships not 20,30,or 40 years ago as YOU said.Hoover still has ZERO State Championships in any years you want to talk about.
Is 2011 20,30,or 40 years ago? Is 41-0 Santa or the Easter Bunny?
Remember that Hoover was Federal League Champions in 1997.Was 40-8 Santa or the Easter bunny? Was 1997 20,30,or 40 years ago? Again I hate to ruin your fantasy with FACTS.
Bob's so called fantasy included last year,the year before,the last 10 years.But it also included McKinley's ENTIRE football program that is one of the best in the State and the NATION!! Something that you are jealous of.
Once more,I need to educate you with FACTS.1997 and 1998 are not 20,30,or 40 years ago.Sorry,but those are the years that YOU used.I'm going by the years that you chose and still McKinley is miles ahead of Hoover.I quess you better choose different years.
Hoover has a nice football program.A better footbal program than GlenOak.But you wouldn't know that listening to GlenOak fans.That's because they pick and choose the years that favor them.Heck,we both know that Hoover has ALOT better football program than Johnny come lately-GlenOak.But your doing the same thing as GlenOak fans "cherry picking" years that benifit Hoover when comparing your football program to McKinley's.
Again,Hoover has a very good football program.But please don't do what GlenOak fans do when comparing football programs.Deal?
this thing started with Bobs fantasy that Mck today, not 20, 30, 40 years ago, is miles ahead of the Fed. its just not so. im sorry to be the one to break it to you guys that there are other quality programs in the area beyond Mass and Mck but you have to stop believing in Santa and the Easter bunny sometime.
i agree with you y2h.this is not the 60s anymore and a lot of programs have caught up with mckinleys.but some people believe it is still the 50s 60s
But your doing the same thing as GlenOak fans "cherry picking" years that benifit Hoover when comparing your football program to McKinley's.
And you're not? You said "Since the play-offs started were [sic] just about even [with Massillon] over the last 40 years." Given that McKinley has played Massillon for over 100 years is that not "cherry picking?"
Transfers were brought up on here at other fed schools so it is a valid question. If Milligan or Brahler would've said the same quote as her, would I still be a racist?
In a word, yes.
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What guys, and what exactly do you mean by that?
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You're creepin' me out, dude! Freud would have a field day....
Oh Bob. You and Freud need to go help Ryan Brahler. He is melting down as we speak. Looks like his attempt to remake "We Are The World" ain't going to take place.
Make fun of me all you want. God has a special place for you...
And you're not? You said "Since the play-offs started were [sic] just about even [with Massillon] over the last 40 years." Given that McKinley has played Massillon for over 100 years is that not "cherry picking?"
Maybe it's because his playoff time reference happened to, more or less coincide with the creation of a new, city- wide McKinley Senior High, with kids from the former Lehman and Lincoln Highs as well as the traditional old McKinley High district kids. McKinley became a bigger school with greater football depth.
Massillon's series lead constitutes a whopping 9% of over a century's worth of encounters, sooo the deficit is actually relatively small. They also have more state and national titles than us, and the winningest football program in Ohio history. I respect their accomplishments, and I believe there is a mutual respect for ours by them.
Oh Bob. You and Freud need to go help Ryan Brahler. He is melting down as we speak. Looks like his attempt to remake "We Are The World" ain't going to take place.
Make fun of me all you want. God has a special place for you...
And I'm pretty certain Satan has a special place for you in mind. You still haven't answered my questions now, have you? I know...the answers would be too revealing, and you would slink away in utter embarrassment, as you should.
Brahler was simply a Johnson guy who saw the light, and it is KILLING your stupid gig. The crude way in which he was treated by the fatsofuhrer over there was indicative of the lack of civility that is common fare amongst the wal-mart set. Shameless...
Maybe it's because his playoff time reference happened to, more or less coincide with the creation of a new, city- wide McKinley Senior High, with kids from the former Lehman and Lincoln Highs as well as the traditional old McKinley High district kids. McKinley became a bigger school with greater football depth.
Massillon's series lead constitutes a whopping 9% of over a century's worth of encounters, sooo the deficit is actually relatively small. They also have more state and national titles than us, and the winningest football program in Ohio history. I respect their accomplishments, and I believe there is a mutual respect for ours by them.
LOL, you're going to try to suggest that he was thinking of the consolidation of high schools when he said "Since the play-offs started"...really? That's pathetic!
I respect Massillon's accomplishments too....but, what does that have to do with my post?
LOL, you're going to try to suggest that he was thinking of the consolidation of high schools when he said "Since the play-offs started"...really? That's pathetic!
I respect Massillon's accomplishments too....but, what does that have to do with my post?
The playoffs began in '72 and McK Sr. '76...close enough in my book.
You were the one who brought the Tigers into this...there's your nexus....
Any reasonable Massillon or Mckinley fan realizes that each team has made the other great.when you play Mass/
Mckinkey your not just playing another team,your playing over 100 years of tradition and continuous success that transcends the current coach or any of us fans.i guess thats what makes some of you guys jealous..sure every now and then another fed team will out play Mass/Mckinley,but any team that wants to be mentioned in the same breath with these two storied programs has to earn it.Glenoak seems to be the flavor of the month in the fed,but what will their legacy be in 100 years?
The playoffs began in '72 and McK Sr. '76...close enough in my book.
The phrase BigBulldog used was "since the playoffs started," not "since McKinley opened it's new school." It really doesn't matter....BigBulldog has accused several people of "cherry picking" years and he did the very same thing....that was the point!
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You were the one who brought the Tigers into this...
LOL, no I'm not....I didn't say anything about Massillon until responding to BigBulldog's comment about McKinley's record against Massillon.
The phrase BigBulldog used was "since the playoffs started," not "since McKinley opened it's new school." It really doesn't matter....BigBulldog has accused several people of "cherry picking" years and he did the very same thing....that was the point!
LOL, no I'm not....I didn't say anything about Massillon until responding to BigBulldog's comment about McKinley's record against Massillon.
Alright then; but, I'll be keeping an eye on you just the same.
You've finally convinced me. McKinley will go 10 - 0 in the regular season against inferior Federal League opponents. In the playoffs, the Bulldogs will beat five Catholic teams by a combined score of 250 - 0, and will win yet another State Championship. You'll show everyone that thinks you morons are idiots. I can't wait!
You've finally convinced me. McKinley will go 10 - 0 in the regular season against inferior Federal League opponents. In the playoffs, the Bulldogs will beat five Catholic teams by a combined score of 250 - 0, and will win yet another State Championship. You'll show everyone that thinks you morons are idiots. I can't wait!
Only a moron like you would post this kind of nonsense.... Good luck with your clueless life. BTW we don't play 10 Fed teams this year, birdbrain. However, I'll bet you your next five welfare checks that McKinley wins yet another state crown before you guys even sniff a final. Wanna bet?
And I'm pretty certain Satan has a special place for you in mind. You still haven't answered my questions now, have you? I know...the answers would be too revealing, and you would slink away in utter embarrassment, as you should.
Brahler was simply a Johnson guy who saw the light, and it is KILLING your stupid gig. The crude way in which he was treated by the fatsofuhrer over there was indicative of the lack of civility that is common fare amongst the wal-mart set. Shameless...
Wait for it Bob........C'mon........HISTORY...HA HA HA HA HA HA.
HISTORY!!!! HA HA HA 110 years!!!!!!!! HISTORY!!!!! 110 Years!!!!!!!!!
You've finally convinced me. McKinley will go 10 - 0 in the regular season against inferior Federal League opponents. In the playoffs, the Bulldogs will beat five Catholic teams by a combined score of 250 - 0, and will win yet another State Championship. You'll show everyone that thinks you morons are idiots. I can't wait!
I NEVER said how I think the Bulldogs will do in 2012.I have said many times that new coaches deserve a pass the first year.It is 2013 that I predicted great things for the pups.
So get your facts straight genius.You just proved you are the moron.
I NEVER said how I think the Bulldogs will do in 2012.I have said many times that new coaches deserve a pass the first year.It is 2013 that I predicted great things for the pups.
So get your facts straight genius.You just proved you are the moron.
did you give kerry hodakievic a pass in his FIRST year in 1998 when he won a state title?filtz should not be given a pass and with all that talent and the greatest coaching staff ever[according to the blob]mckinley should a state title in his first season.NO EXCUSES
did you give kerry hodakievic a pass in his FIRST year in 1998 when he won a state title?filtz should not be given a pass and with all that talent and the greatest coaching staff ever[according to the blob]mckinley should a state title in his first season.NO EXCUSES
Your putting words in my mouth again.
ALL first year coaches are given a pass,not just at McKinley but everywhere.
Do you have a hard time reading? Or are you just stupid? I told you 10 times that I did not say I expect great things in 2012.
Keep cheering against the McKinley KIDS you sick old senile apostate.
You just lost 3 State Championships running to Massillon.
Now how do you feel with ZERO NONE NADA State Championships?
care to post the score from two years ago when a 3 win Hoover team visited Fawcett to play a playoff bound #1 seed Bulldog team and was forced to play a soph backup QB for a half? man that game must have gotten ugly. 
and i said Hoover has played as well as anyone not won more so the quality of the games is relevant.of course the object is to win but if you listened to some of your fanbase youd think youve won every game in the series by 6 TDs. everybody gets beat bad sometime even the mighty Pups .
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