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Old 04-03-12, 08:25 AM
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I was there. Elder's outside's seemed to be the opposite of clutch down the stretch, and that hurt. The big middle for Darby ran train at points, but where Darby really took advantage was running those 12 balls for their outsides, Elder's middles were late getting outside very often, leaving Darby's outsides with one blocker, and they took advantage.

Elder's problem is that they still won't (and probably never will w/ Tierney) run any plays. High outs, 1 balls, and high backs, with an occasional back 1. Darby's quick offense won the game IMHO.
You have to play with what you have. Like berry said, with C. Wessels they ran a real quick offense, that was because they had the tools to do so. They had the middles like Neiheisel and Malone that could run a 32/31 or a quick slide. They had the outsides in Gay and A. Wessels that could also run the 32 or the shoot/go ball. Now, Elder is faced with middles that are not as quick as a Neiheisel or a Malone. You cant force something upon your guys that they cant do. Elder thrives on having a dominate middle. Look at their championship teams (Neiheisel, Malone, Harpenau). If Elder wants to get back in this, their middles must put it in their hands
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Old 04-03-12, 12:50 PM
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04-03 5:00 PM Delaware Hayes - : - Mt. Vernon
04-03 5:30 PM Worthington Kilbourne - : - Hilliard Davidson
04-03 5:30 PM Gahanna Lincoln - : - Hilliard Bradley
04-03 5:30 PM Bishop Watterson - : - Licking Heights
04-03 6:00 PM Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin - : - Walsh Jesuit
04-03 6:00 PM Medina - : - Archbishop Hoban
04-03 6:00 PM St. Charles - : - Whetstone
04-03 6:30 PM Dublin Scioto - : - Westerville Central
04-03 6:30 PM Centerville - : - Beavercreek
04-03 6:30 PM Westerville South - : - Dublin Jerome
04-03 6:30 PM Kent Roosevelt - : - Jackson
04-03 6:45 PM Wayne - : - Fairborn
04-03 7:00 PM Olentangy Liberty - : - Westerville North
04-03 7:00 PM Oak Hills - : - Middletown
04-03 7:00 PM St. Ignatius - : - Brecksville-BH
04-03 7:00 PM Sycamore - : - Fairfield
04-03 7:00 PM Lakota East - : - Edgewood
04-03 7:00 PM Loveland - : - Holy Cross (KY)
04-03 7:00 PM Archbishop Moeller - : - Archbishop Alter
04-03 7:00 PM Chaminade Julienne - : - Elder
04-03 7:00 AM Northmont - : - Kettering Fairmont
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Old 04-03-12, 11:49 PM
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Hilliard Davidson def Worthington Kilbourne 25-20, 20-25, 25-11, 25-16
Watterson def Licking Heights 25-8, 25-5, 25-11
Gahanna Lincoln def Hilliard Bradley 21-25, 25-23, 22-25, 26-24, 15-5
Walsh Jesuit def Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin 22-25, 25-16, 27-25, 25-18
Dublin Scioto def Westerville Central 19-25, 25-19, 25-15, 25-19
Fairborn def Wayne 3-0
Moeller def Alter 25-22, 25-18, 19-25, 30-32, 16-14 (sounds like a great match!)
Elder def Chaminade Julienne 25-20, 25-11, 25-9
Oak Hills def Middletown 25-19, 25-14, 18-25, 25-21
Fairfield def Sycamore 25-13, 25-14, 25-17
Northmont def Kettering Fairmont 25-13, 27-25, 23-25, 25-15
St Charles def Whetstone 3-0
Olentangy Liberty def Westerville North 25-11, 31-29, 23-25, 25-22

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Old 04-04-12, 11:45 PM
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4/4 Results

Upper Arlington def Dublin Scioto 25-17, 25-27, 25-16, 25-21
Chaminade Julienne def Purcell Marian 25-17, 25-19, 25-18
Fairfield def Oak Hills 24-26, 25-14, 25-16, 21-25, 15-12
LaSalle def Fenwick 25-22, 25-22, 25-14
Lakota West def Edgewood 25-5, 25-9, 25-12
Watterson def Dublin Coffman 25-15, 25-10, 25-14
Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin 2-0
St Xavier def Alter 25-18, 25-20, 25-19 (were they gassed from the Moeller match the night before or X that good?)
Westerville North def Westerville South 25-23, 25-15, 21-25, 25-19

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Old 04-05-12, 08:30 PM
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You have to play with what you have. Like berry said, with C. Wessels they ran a real quick offense, that was because they had the tools to do so. They had the middles like Neiheisel and Malone that could run a 32/31 or a quick slide. They had the outsides in Gay and A. Wessels that could also run the 32 or the shoot/go ball. Now, Elder is faced with middles that are not as quick as a Neiheisel or a Malone. You cant force something upon your guys that they cant do. Elder thrives on having a dominate middle. Look at their championship teams (Neiheisel, Malone, Harpenau). If Elder wants to get back in this, their middles must put it in their hands
You're telling me Bertke and Morman aren't athletic enough to run shoots and 31/2s?

My opinion is that they stick to the way they have always done it which doesn't always work...

Like you said, Elder's middles have always led them when the've been successful, (whether thats true or not). Maybe Vater and Dorsey can't shoulder the load, so they need to change something. Idk. The offense seemed stagnant against Darby.
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Old 04-05-12, 11:16 PM
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St X beat Alter in 3 games. 25-18, 25-20, 25-19
Yeah that game wasn't up last night as I updated. I've updated the rest of the scores from last night.
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Old 04-05-12, 11:21 PM
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Results from 4/5

Hilliard Davidson def Mt Vernon 25-21, 17-25, 21-25, 25-15, 16-14
Northmonth def Centerville 22-25, 26-24, 25-15, 25-23 (ouch the Elk are really struggling this year.)
Olentangy Liberty def Westerville South 25-11, 25-14, 25-10
Dublin Coffman def Whetstone 25-19, 25-9, 25-11
Beavercreek def Fairborn 3-0
Kettering Fairmont def Wayne 25-21, 25-18, 25-18
Lakota West def Sycamore 25-6, 25-10, 25-8
Mason def Lakota East 25-17, 23-25, 25-16, 25-19

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Old 04-05-12, 11:27 PM
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You're telling me Bertke and Morman aren't athletic enough to run shoots and 31/2s?

My opinion is that they stick to the way they have always done it which doesn't always work...

Like you said, Elder's middles have always led them when the've been successful, (whether thats true or not). Maybe Vater and Dorsey can't shoulder the load, so they need to change something. Idk. The offense seemed stagnant against Darby.
What in the world does that mean?

Didn't see the Dary match, but Morman got some 32s/shoots against X and Fletcher just sat on them and roofed him twice. From where I was sitting I couldn't tell if the set was tight or if Morman just slammed it hoping it would go through. Either way, I would tend to agree, the offense is pretty vanilla, but then again it was only the 2nd weekend of the season. No need to show off everything this early, if they even have worked on tandems or those quick plays at all to this point.

You also have to remember Bertke is very new to the OH position. I realize coming in and hitting a 32/shoot isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, but you do have to time it up with the setter and work those things out. It isn't all natural reaction.

I say give it time, they'll figure it out. Elder always seems to play its best ball at the end of the season, and the calender just flipped to April, I'm not worried.
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Old 04-06-12, 10:50 AM
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Who has been playing well for the top teams thus far? I know it's early, but any POY favorites from each region?

Besides North being McAndrews, the rest seem pretty wide open
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Old 04-06-12, 02:56 PM
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Fletcher has been playing well for X. Not sure who's stood out on Moe or Darby.
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Old 04-08-12, 12:37 AM
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Results from Saturday:

Gahanna Lincoln def Olentangy Liberty 25-21, 22-25, 25-20
Oletangy Liberty def Mason 15-25, 25-22, 25-14
Mason def Gahanna Lincoln 31-29, 25-20
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Old 04-09-12, 09:26 AM
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You're telling me Bertke and Morman aren't athletic enough to run shoots and 31/2s?

My opinion is that they stick to the way they have always done it which doesn't always work...

Like you said, Elder's middles have always led them when the've been successful, (whether thats true or not). Maybe Vater and Dorsey can't shoulder the load, so they need to change something. Idk. The offense seemed stagnant against Darby.
No i did not say anything like this. My argument was that Elder's middles need to continue to improve. Dorsey runs a real quick one ball, but that is all I have seen from either of the two middles thus far. Going back to the argument of having Neiheisel, Harp etc, with thier presence, the blocking on the other side of the net seemed to follow them a lot more, opening up single blocks/no blocks for the outsides and weaksides. Dorsey did that a few times for Morman but that was it. Establishing middle is a lot more important than you think
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Old 04-09-12, 10:54 AM
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Matches tonight:

Hilliard Davidson def Delaware Hayes 25-20, 25-15, 25-15
Mt Vernon vs Upper Arlington 25-16, 25-18, 25-16
Purcell-Marian vs Roger Bacon
Jackson vs Canton McKinley

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Old 04-10-12, 01:44 PM
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I think McAndrews (Eds), Flesner (X), Fletcher (X), Kanetzke (Moe), and Pieper (Moe) are among the top contendors for POY right now. Moe has started off the season well, as had X, so that puts them at the top of the state list right now for me. McAndrews is obviously a force to be reckoned with as well. Flesner is a great outside as he has been for three years and Fletcher is an excellent setter, having not played the role consistently before for X. Pieper and Kanetzke seem to have a similar connection, though I have not seen much of them yet this year. Overall, I think McAndrews, Flesner, and Fletcher are at the top right now.
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Old 04-10-12, 05:28 PM
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Matches tonight:

Hilliard Darby def Hilliard Davidson 25-12, 25-14, 25-18
Thomas Worthington def Upper Arlington 25-21, 25-15, 26-24
Mt Vernon def Pickerington Central 25-10, 25-13, 25-9
Gahanna Lincoln def Pickerington North 25-18, 25-10, 25-12
VASJ def Medina 25-5, 25-19
VASJ def Stow-Munroe Falls 25-13, 25-10
Westerville South def Westerville Central 25-18, 26-24, 25-21
Centerville def Fairmont 25-15, 21-25, 22-25, 25-20, 15-9
Lakota East def Hamilton 25-10, 25-11, 25-16
Lakota West def Fairfield 27-25, 19-25, 25-18, 25-13 (sounds like a good match in the GMC)
Westerville North def Dublin Scioto 25-20, 20-25, 25-19, 25-19
Hilliard Bradley def Delaware Hayes 25-10, 25-16, 25-13
Beavercreek def Wayne 25-11, 25-10, 25-13
Northmont def Fairborn 25-6, 25-6, 25-10
Olentangy Liberty def Dublin Jerome 25-17, 25-13, 25-16
Milford def Loveland 3-2

McNicholas vs Carrol
Fenwick vs Roger Bacon
Medina vs Stow-Munroe Falls
Oak Hills vs Mason

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Old 04-11-12, 10:49 AM
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Hilliard Darby def Hilliard Davidson 25-12, 25-14, 25-18


Darby must be pretty doggone good this year.
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Old 04-11-12, 11:13 AM
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They took out Elder at Elder in 5 games as well. Darby will be up there at the end of the year
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Old 04-11-12, 02:49 PM
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That or Davidson isn't as good as they've been in previous years. Darby was absolutely spanked by X twice in the St Charles Tournament. It is still April, so who really knows?
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Old 04-11-12, 02:55 PM
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Matches tonight:

Kent Roosevelt vs Walsh Jesuit
Fairmont vs Princeton
Northmont vs Beavercreek (big game in DI West)
Hamilton vs Milford
Sycamore vs Loveland
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Old 04-11-12, 08:14 PM
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That or Davidson isn't as good as they've been in previous years. Darby was absolutely spanked by X twice in the St Charles Tournament. It is still April, so who really knows?
At least the last couple of seasons, it seems like Darby starts out slow and then gets better as the season wears on.

Last year, Darby lost to a pretty decent (but hardly great) Bradley team early in the season. This year, they were beaten handily by St. X. Since then, they've beaten Elder in 5 and won most of their other matches pretty easily. As you seemed to indicate, April results are nice, but there's a lot of volleyball to be played before the tournament starts. Of course, as a Darby fan, I like to see the Panthers notch a big "W" over our rivals.
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Old 04-12-12, 01:51 PM
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Elder usually plays throughout the season in a similar fashion. Slow start, but things click and turn it on at the end of the season, when it matters. Wish I was there for the Elder-Darby match, sounded like a good one.
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Old 04-12-12, 02:23 PM
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Few big matches tonight:

St Edwards vs St Ignatius
Mt Vernon vs Hilliard Bradley
Elder vs Moeller
Roger Bacon vs McNicholas
St Edwards vs Hoban

Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin vs Stow Munroe Falls
Gahanna Lincoln vs Pickerington Central
Hilliard Davidson vs Upper Arlington
Delaware Hayes vs Pickerington North
Thomas Worthington vs Dublin Coffman
Jackson vs Walsh Jesuit
Loveland vs Northmont
Olentangy Liberty vs Westerville Central
Westerville South vs Dublin Scioto
Hudson vs Medina
Wayne vs Centerville
Lakota East vs Fairfield
Princeton vs Lakota East
Oak Hills vs Sycamore
Middletown vs Mason
Westerville North vs Dublin Jerome
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Old 04-12-12, 07:11 PM
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Game 1 Elder down 17-10, fights back to 20-19 but loses 25-20.

Elder led Game 2, 19-17, but blew the game losing 25-19. Terrible.
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Old 04-12-12, 07:28 PM
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Panthers lead Game 3, 18-10. Not counting Moe out of the game but they just look off this game.

Moe cuts in half, 21-17 Panthers looking flustered.
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Old 04-12-12, 07:37 PM
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Panthers win game 3. 25-21. Think Moe is gonna take care of it in 4 though. Elder lost a lot of momentum giving up those points in Game 3.
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Old 04-12-12, 08:01 PM
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Not so sure, they let Alter take them to 5 and almost lost it...
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Old 04-12-12, 09:39 PM
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Final?
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Old 04-12-12, 11:04 PM
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Moeller wins in 4, 25-18.

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Old 04-13-12, 12:08 AM
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Results from Thursday 4/12

Gahanna Lincoln def Pickerington Central 25-6, 25-10, 25-7
Hilliard Davidson def Upper Arlington 25-17, 25-17, 25-17
Thomas Worthington def Dublin Coffman 18-25, 20-25, 25-18, 25-16, 15-9
Pickerington North def Delaware Hayes 25-18, 25-22, 16-25, 25-19
St Ignatius def VASJ 22-25, 25-17, 25-18, 25-23
Northmont def Loveland 25-11, 25-15, 25-14
Dublin Scioto def Westerville South 25-18, 25-15, 20-25, 26-24
Lakota West def Princeton 25-16, 25-16, 25-10
Fairfield def Lakota East 25-16, 25-19, 25-22
Hilliard Darby def Worthington Kilbourne 25-10, 25-13, 25-20
Moeller def Elder 25-20, 25-19, 21-25, 25-18
Hilliard Bradley def Mt Vernon 3-1
Olentangy Liberty def Westerville Central 25-11, 25-15, 25-16
Centerville def Wayne 25-12, 25-12, 25-17
Westerville North def Dublin Jerome 25-18, 25-22, 13-25, 25-15
Roger Bacon def McNicholas 25-18, 25-19, 25-12
St Edward def Hoban 25-17, 25-27, 25-17, 25-21

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Old 04-13-12, 08:40 AM
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St. Edward defeated Archbishop Hoban 25-14, 26-28, 25-17, 25-21
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