This race earlier today was very interesting. Congrats to the four teams cincinnati teams who did make it to state. There were bests and their was surprises at the meet. Everybody post what u think.
Here are just a few thoughts.
Busts-
Lakota west- who ended up getting sixth place many people believed they would place third at regionals and move on to state
Fairmont- They had potential this season but i believe they ended up getting 11th
Surprises-
Congrats to Lasalle making it to state and placing third and beating elder
Oak Hills- Many people thought they were a joke and dissing them on this site but they ended up coming in fifth without a great preformance from lacewell and without some of their key runners cuz of sickness
Choke job here.... is this is M.O?.... even my beloved beavercreek beavers defeated fairmont..
I know i boldly said my beavers were going to go to state, but sometimes heart talks more than common sense... I think the beavers ran well, regardless.
But look at Fairmont, choked at the conference then at the regional, where they should have been at least in front of both centerville and beavercreek.
They really miss their old coach, because this Pat Miller guy is not very good, and frankly, that's ashame for the runners on that team, who deserve better.
Others that i vote for as choke would be the milton union team for d2, melko of miamisburg (what happened with him, maybe he was sick)
best of luck to all at state, to the fairmont runners, sorry your season ended abruptly, hopefully you ll do well in the spring during track
Choke job here.... is this is M.O?.... even my beloved beavercreek beavers defeated fairmont..
I know i boldly said my beavers were going to go to state, but sometimes heart talks more than common sense... I think the beavers ran well, regardless.
But look at Fairmont, choked at the conference then at the regional, where they should have been at least in front of both centerville and beavercreek.
They really miss their old coach, because this Pat Miller guy is not very good, and frankly, that's ashame for the runners on that team, who deserve better.
Others that i vote for as choke would be the milton union team for d2, melko of miamisburg (what happened with him, maybe he was sick)
best of luck to all at state, to the fairmont runners, sorry your season ended abruptly, hopefully you ll do well in the spring during track
lol seriously right now? how can you say all of this about a coach that you dont know anything about his coaching style at all
Choke job here.... is this is M.O?.... even my beloved beavercreek beavers defeated fairmont..
I know i boldly said my beavers were going to go to state, but sometimes heart talks more than common sense... I think the beavers ran well, regardless.
But look at Fairmont, choked at the conference then at the regional, where they should have been at least in front of both centerville and beavercreek.
They really miss their old coach, because this Pat Miller guy is not very good, and frankly, that's ashame for the runners on that team, who deserve better.
Others that i vote for as choke would be the milton union team for d2, melko of miamisburg (what happened with him, maybe he was sick)
best of luck to all at state, to the fairmont runners, sorry your season ended abruptly, hopefully you ll do well in the spring during track
It is pretty sad that you come on here and blast a HIGH SCHOOL cross country coach. If you look at what Fairmont had done coming into the regional meet, they had little to no chance of advancing...no Dayton team did.
Also, in case you didn't know, coaches can't run the race for the runners. Don't blame coaches when the runners "choke" at big races.
Note about Mariemont team. 5th runner runs 40 seconds better than his personal best.....that really helps....
Running a PR - Good
Running a BIG PR - Better
Running a BIG PR in the regional tournament meet - PRICELESS!
I love to see runners improve like that! That's what makes the sport exciting. Everyone can have a goal, and everyone's goals can be tailored to them. I'm betting he beat his goal!
Someone had a uniform violation with their tights. It was black with a wiggly white line on it, which isn't allowed.
Apparently it was a very small line, making it a bit of a d*** move on the scorers/whoever turned him in part, especially because he is now DQ'ed for the state meet too. On the other hand, this is reason I don't ever wear underarmor or tights in a race.
It's a dumb rule, but its a dumb rule that is applied to all, some get caught, some don't. Don't take any chances and buy solid black or solid white compression shorts and solid black or solid white under shirt. Its not hard to find solid colors, but you may have to get an "off" brand to do so.
I know i boldly said my beavers were going to go to state, but sometimes heart talks more than common sense... I think the beavers ran well, regardless.
I have to disagree. A runner who has been in the top 5 for them consistently all year (Wetzel) ran over minute slower than his PR and was their 6th runner. The Troy course is slower than some but not that slow. Menchaca was also over a minute slower than his PR. Hay and Gossel were both over 30 seconds slower from their PRs. Their number one runner (Leiher) for the meet was usually their number 4 or 5. Looking at last years results Beavercreek had runners at about the same times they did this year. They may have improved some but there was certainly not a marked improvement compared to those who ran the regional meet last year and this year. A pack is all well and good but when your first runner continues to come in at the 40s there is no hope of advancing to state.
There was no possible way for beavercreek to make it to state if they ran the regional meet 100 times they wouldnt ven make it once they had no chance. They were 120 points away from 4th place and came in 9th. Beavercreek is a decent team not a good team.
There was no possible way for beavercreek to make it to state if they ran the regional meet 100 times they wouldnt ven make it once they had no chance. They were 120 points away from 4th place and came in 9th. Beavercreek is a decent team not a good team.
Never said there was. In fact I have never said they had a chance to make state. I was simply stating that they did not run as well as beastie boy assumed they did.
Back to the LaSalle DQ. I don't believe he would be DQed from the state meet. He was DQed in the Regional meet, the State meet is a different meet. The team qualified, he's on the eligibility list therefore eligible. Am I wrong on this?
Back to the LaSalle DQ. I don't believe he would be DQed from the state meet. He was DQed in the Regional meet, the State meet is a different meet. The team qualified, he's on the eligibility list therefore eligible. Am I wrong on this?
He is allowed to race at the state meet.
The only reason he would be disallowed would be for a flagrant penalty: cussing, pushing, fighting, or a red card. And yes red cards are given in cross country and track. Few officials carry them anymore.
The only reason he would be disallowed would be for a flagrant penalty: cussing, pushing, fighting, or a red card. And yes red cards are given in cross country and track. Few officials carry them anymore.
The situation has been resolved and you are correct. The official at Troy informed the La Salle coach that the DQd runned was NOT eligible to run at state. However, today an official from the Troy regional contacted the AD at La Salle and informed him that the DQd runner was indeed eligible to run at state. So, they corrected the mistake.
I don't think the mistake should have been made in the first place. I think it's a case where the official was perfectly willing to exercise his full authority, yet did not know the rules well enough to give a proper interpretation on this pretty basic rule.
At least they finally made it right after causing some anxiety. Maybe somebody of authority is reading chat boards?????
Clayton Cardinal, LaSalle's 6th/7th. It wouldn't have mattered at that meet for LaSalle, however he finished ahead of Oak Hills' 6th and Lakota West's 5th, I believe, so it would have mattered for those two.
Last edited by brotherin : 11-03-09 at 05:18 PM.
Reason: clarification
Fairmont actually has a thin squad. So if one goes down to flu, they are doomed. Plus neither of their other top 4 did well.(O'Malley, Davies, and Timmer way above their PRs) Look at Centerville. They have about 12 guys who run in the 17s, so they can plug in another guy and not suffer too much. Fairmont has nobody to push the top 7. The statebound teams all have packs who can run varsity on most other schools. Judging by Oak Hills 7th man finish they are thin too. Every dog has his day, still not good enough for State, but congratulations on a strong effort that day.
Last edited by dayxcfan55 : 11-04-09 at 11:32 AM.
Reason: added another word
Fairmont actually has a thin squad. So if one goes down to flu, they are doomed. Plus neither of their other top 4 did well.(O'Malley, Davies, and Timmer way above their PRs) Look at Centerville. They have about 12 guys who run in the 17s, so they can plug in another guy and not suffer too much. Fairmont has nobody to push the top 7. The statebound teams all have packs who can run varsity on most other schools. Judging by Oak Hills 7th man finish they are thin too. Every dog has his day, still not good enough for State, but congratulations on a strong effort that day.
so pretty much farmont just sucks. all talk, no action.
real cool cashmoney. i guess slamming another cross country team just makes you feel better about yourself. all i ever said was that i didnt think you guys would make state and you blow up at me and now you hate my school for some reason...
all talk, no action.
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