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Sports_Fan_ 07-10-18 01:41 PM

Fall Season
 
Now that club is over (not really interested in DA) what are the opinions on the upcoming high school season? I know we have the same at the top, but can Cincinnati sweep the state in Div 1,2,3 again? Can anyone stop Loveland in Cincinnati?

EXPRESS 07-11-18 08:51 AM

The new Mercy Mcauley HS is loaded with talent. 16+ elite players from CUP, TFA and KH. If the new coaching staff can figure out team selections they'll be an immediate power out of the gate.

270SC 07-11-18 04:59 PM

Cincinnati and Cleveland usually fare pretty well at D1 simply because their enrollments are much larger. Most Columbus schools are closer to a D2 level sized school, they need redistribute the way classifications are made. Mason has twice as many kids as anyone in Columbus.

Loveland is a solid program but Pick North And Olentangy Orange should be really good from CMH this year.

Irwin20 07-11-18 05:39 PM

We don't need 4-5 Divisions in Girls HS Soccer. When was the last time Mason won State or even been in the title game? Loveland is 1/3 the size of Mason.

Sports_Fan_ 07-12-18 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EXPRESS (Post 7067146)
The new Mercy Mcauley HS is loaded with talent. 16+ elite players from CUP, TFA and KH. If the new coaching staff can figure out team selections they'll be an immediate power out of the gate.

Who ended up getting the head coaching job between the schools? I figured they would be good grabbing 2 schools with kids that play soccer. I know Hamilton plays them this fall so we get to see them.

soccerjunkie77 07-13-18 07:39 AM

Mike Rust

MichaelPat 07-13-18 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EXPRESS (Post 7067146)
The new Mercy Mcauley HS is loaded with talent. 16+ elite players from CUP, TFA and KH. If the new coaching staff can figure out team selections they'll be an immediate power out of the gate.

I'd like to see MMHS do well. Individually they've been pretty mediocre in the recent past.

MichaelPat 07-13-18 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Fan_ (Post 7066904)
Now that club is over (not really interested in DA) what are the opinions on the upcoming high school season? I know we have the same at the top, but can Cincinnati sweep the state in Div 1,2,3 again? Can anyone stop Loveland in Cincinnati?

Does Loveland have a lot returning? They've had a nice run the last 3 years but to my knowledge were just ok for a long time prior to that.

Look for Indian Hill to be strong again in D2. McNick has a lot returning. Probably Badin will be good again.

270SC 07-15-18 10:07 AM

Any results from the summer tourneys? Believe Lakota was hosting one. Of course lots of players missing.

I’ve heard Loveland lost a lot.

Indian Hill is D2 good, but would like to see them try to play with the big girls sometime. Don’t think they could go three rounds deep in D1, their schedule has more cupcakes than the your average five year olds birthday party.

Irwin20 07-15-18 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 270SC (Post 7068530)
Any results from the summer tourneys? Believe Lakota was hosting one. Of course lots of players missing.

Iíve heard Loveland lost a lot.

Indian Hill is D2 good, but would like to see them try to play with the big girls sometime. Donít think they could go three rounds deep in D1, their schedule has more cupcakes than the your average five year olds birthday party.

Last year IH could probably have advanced pretty far in D1. No idea about this coming season. I know they have a couple of very good girls but not sure about their depth. You are right the conference is pretty weak but in the past they have tried to play a good non conference schedule.

EXPRESS 07-16-18 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelPat (Post 7068131)
I'd like to see MMHS do well. Individually they've been pretty mediocre in the recent past.

MMHS will be decent if they get the teams right. They had independent evaluators in from CUP to do evaluations but there were some very questionable selections between varsity and JV that the head coach will need to get figured out. If he does it right they'll be fine, if he leaves it as is they will under perform.

Sports_Fan_ 07-16-18 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EXPRESS (Post 7068848)
MMHS will be decent if they get the teams right. They had independent evaluators in from CUP to do evaluations but there were some very questionable selections between varsity and JV that the head coach will need to get figured out. If he does it right they'll be fine, if he leaves it as is they will under perform.

So the head coach pretty much had someone else set the team? I know I bash club all the time and the reasons are for times like these. These big club coaches with their little licenses think they have the keys to the sport. It's not rocket science if a kid can play or not, that's the worst decision I've heard. I don't want to hear about bias from one school to the next excuse either, if you are the coach and you were picked to the job, pick your own team.

kmac57 07-16-18 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Irwin20 (Post 7068539)
Last year IH could probably have advanced pretty far in D1. No idea about this coming season. I know they have a couple of very good girls but not sure about their depth. You are right the conference is pretty weak but in the past they have tried to play a good non conference schedule.

Agree last year's IH team was very very strong only blemish tie to Alter. IH played a good schedule and it showed in playoff run. IH has another tough schedule in 2018. Play McNick, Alter, Summit Country Day, Carroll, Madeira, Badin. Hope Podjil makes full recovery, they will need her.

jtk 07-16-18 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Fan_ (Post 7068864)
So the head coach pretty much had someone else set the team? I know I bash club all the time and the reasons are for times like these. These big club coaches with their little licenses think they have the keys to the sport. It's not rocket science if a kid can play or not, that's the worst decision I've heard. I don't want to hear about bias from one school to the next excuse either, if you are the coach and you were picked to the job, pick your own team.

i didn't know tryouts already took place? would be odd if teams were picked already. i do know that two girls that wouldve played varsity are out with acl injuries.

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EXPRESS 07-17-18 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Fan_ (Post 7068864)
So the head coach pretty much had someone else set the team? I know I bash club all the time and the reasons are for times like these. These big club coaches with their little licenses think they have the keys to the sport. It's not rocket science if a kid can play or not, that's the worst decision I've heard. I don't want to hear about bias from one school to the next excuse either, if you are the coach and you were picked to the job, pick your own team.


Yeah its a bizarre situation. I think its being done to give the new head coach a way to deflect from his decisions. The CUP coaches that put on the camp made some odd decisions. For example, there are several high level elite players on JV and they are playing behind rec and low level players on varsity. Also, there was a heavy emphasis on grade level as opposed to talent level. We'll see how it plays out but hopefully the head coach does the right thing as he stated he would in the off season.

jtk 07-17-18 10:50 PM

bizarre is a nice way to put it. can't believe a hs coach would allow a club coach to determine his teams. especially when he lost a great goalie and defender to acl's. those CUP coaches never even seen those two. hopefully this isn't the norm for all sports throughout the first year of competition.

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belied dat 07-18-18 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EXPRESS (Post 7068848)
MMHS will be decent if they get the teams right. They had independent evaluators in from CUP to do evaluations but there were some very questionable selections between varsity and JV that the head coach will need to get figured out. If he does it right they'll be fine, if he leaves it as is they will under perform.

I don't know abbreviations well, but if it is an Ohio school that did this, then it's a violation of OHSAA rules. No tryouts can take place before August 1.

EXPRESS 07-18-18 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by belied dat (Post 7069976)
I don't know abbreviations well, but if it is an Ohio school that did this, then it's a violation of OHSAA rules. No tryouts can take place before August 1.

Not considered a practice or "tryout" as it was a recommended paid camp held by CUP, final decisions are to be made by head coach once organized practices are allowed.

fearthekeeper 07-18-18 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EXPRESS (Post 7068848)
MMHS will be decent if they get the teams right. They had independent evaluators in from CUP to do evaluations but there were some very questionable selections between varsity and JV that the head coach will need to get figured out. If he does it right they'll be fine, if he leaves it as is they will under perform.

If they are picking teams now, they are in clear violation of OHSAA rules. Mercy and McAuley have both been average at best for years. I donít see that changing just because they combined two average schools.

CitrusCrunch 07-18-18 09:12 PM

i don't see this ending well

soccerjunkie77 07-19-18 07:21 AM

In my experience, head coaches know 85-90% of their varsity roster before official tryouts starts.

Irwin20 07-19-18 11:27 AM

I doubt they are picking teams now. CUP coaches may have been asked for input based on what they saw at the camp. If the new coach was formerly a coach at one of the 2 schools then he should have a pretty good idea about the talent of the players since he coached one and played against the other. Nothing to see here.

CitrusCrunch 07-19-18 12:24 PM

not like it matters even if they did

EXPRESS 07-19-18 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Irwin20 (Post 7070509)
I doubt they are picking teams now. CUP coaches may have been asked for input based on what they saw at the camp. If the new coach was formerly a coach at one of the 2 schools then he should have a pretty good idea about the talent of the players since he coached one and played against the other. Nothing to see here.

Head coach is new and hasn't seen or know background on players.

swofan 07-20-18 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Irwin20 (Post 7068539)
Last year IH could probably have advanced pretty far in D1. No idea about this coming season. I know they have a couple of very good girls but not sure about their depth. You are right the conference is pretty weak but in the past they have tried to play a good non conference schedule.

Are you serious about the CHL being a weak conference? They are all public schools, 3 of which have been to a D2 State Title game (4 total games) and 2 state champions. If you could list me a better D2 public conference in Ohio that year in and year out wins district and regional titles and does it the right way please let us know. I guess if you don't beat the system or draw from all over the city you are considered a weak group of schools. Indian Hill is a HEAVY favorite to repeat in D2 and it won't be close.

Schmitt 07-20-18 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swofan (Post 7070809)
Are you serious about the CHL being a weak conference? They are all public schools, 3 of which have been to a D2 State Title game (4 total games) and 2 state champions. If you could list me a better D2 public conference in Ohio that year in and year out wins district and regional titles and does it the right way please let us know. I guess if you don't beat the system or draw from all over the city you are considered a weak group of schools. Indian Hill is a HEAVY favorite to repeat in D2 and it won't be close.

A conference with Taylor, Finneytown, Reading and Deer Park cannot be considered a strong conference. I'll give you that the top 4 are usually pretty good. The best d2/d3 conference in the State is the GCL Coed multiple state championships in the last 10 years...Fenwick, Alter, McNick, Badin (more than once) there are no weak sisters now that Purcell hasn't had a team for the past 3 years. IH has supplemented their non conference schedule with some strong teams so thats to their credit. How many Seniors did they lose last year? Saying it won't be close might be a stretch. i think any of the four teams above could give them a run not to mention CJ,Carroll.

MichaelPat 07-20-18 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmitt (Post 7070884)
A conference with Taylor, Finneytown, Reading and Deer Park cannot be considered a strong conference. I'll give you that the top 4 are usually pretty good. The best d2/d3 conference in the State is the GCL Coed multiple state championships in the last 10 years...Fenwick, Alter, McNick, Badin (more than once) there are no weak sisters now that Purcell hasn't had a team for the past 3 years. IH has supplemented their non conference schedule with some strong teams so thats to their credit. How many Seniors did they lose last year? Saying it won't be close might be a stretch. i think any of the four teams above could give them a run not to mention CJ,Carroll.

IH needs to mix a few D1 schools in to step up their schedule. Mcnicholas and Alter play teams like St Ursula, MND, McAuley-Mercy, Ursuline, Turpin, Seton, Anderson, Centerville, Loveland yearly.

kmac57 07-20-18 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swofan (Post 7070809)
Are you serious about the CHL being a weak conference? They are all public schools, 3 of which have been to a D2 State Title game (4 total games) and 2 state champions. If you could list me a better D2 public conference in Ohio that year in and year out wins district and regional titles and does it the right way please let us know. I guess if you don't beat the system or draw from all over the city you are considered a weak group of schools. Indian Hill is a HEAVY favorite to repeat in D2 and it won't be close.

Nothing against the conference, it has some good teams. IH plays good schedule. It's your last statement you might want to think about. IH star player coming off knee injury, losing Jackson to graduation will hurt.

IH will be in the mix but many strong DII teams stand in their way. Let's not forget CSCD steps up into DII they have the talent of DI team. As Alter found out last year, repeating is not an easy feat

ammtd34 07-23-18 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmitt (Post 7070884)
A conference with Taylor, Finneytown, Reading and Deer Park cannot be considered a strong conference. I'll give you that the top 4 are usually pretty good. The best d2/d3 conference in the State is the GCL Coed multiple state championships in the last 10 years...Fenwick, Alter, McNick, Badin (more than once) there are no weak sisters now that Purcell hasn't had a team for the past 3 years. IH has supplemented their non conference schedule with some strong teams so thats to their credit. How many Seniors did they lose last year? Saying it won't be close might be a stretch. i think any of the four teams above could give them a run not to mention CJ,Carroll.

The bulk of Carroll's production will be from sophomores and juniors this year. With any improvement, they'll be good.

jed the fish show 07-31-18 09:12 AM

Not sure why the link got removed yesterday but here is the season preview show link = https://www.spreaker.com/episode/15376277


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