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Belly35 06-17-19 02:43 PM

Report to Duty
 
Should the USA reinstate the draft?

queencitybuckeye 06-17-19 02:58 PM

Absolutely not.

ronnie mund 06-17-19 03:00 PM

No.

OhioBobcatFan06 06-17-19 03:08 PM

Taxation is theft

arizonawildcat 06-17-19 04:01 PM

Any reinsatement of the draft would now by law have to include women: Can you imagine a father letting the army take his precious little Ashley or Ashleigh or Ashlee or any other way you to want to spell it? Not his little princess, no way, no how.

Purplemojo 06-17-19 04:11 PM

If it were not overly cumbersome given the large numbers, I would support universal conscription. Everybody does their bit as in Israel or Switzerland. Not practical in the US though. So, under the circumstances, we do not need a draft currently.

vamp2syd 06-17-19 04:27 PM

100 Percent YES

irish_buffalo 06-17-19 07:03 PM

yes

eastisbest 06-17-19 08:05 PM

Scripted Service? Maybe. Military Draft? No way.

bob22 06-17-19 08:10 PM

What for?

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vamp2syd 06-17-19 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob22 (Post 7327411)
What for?

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Discipline
Training

so at least if a war does come and it hits our shores we would be some what prepared. It is just a matter of time that war will not be watching it on the TV but actually happening in our back yards.... these kids are the future and they need to know more than how to text and drive.

fortfan 06-18-19 05:25 AM

Would there be a citizenship requirement? That's racist.

ohiopup 06-18-19 05:33 AM

The little piss-ants and their helicopter parents would do a complete melt down....

================================================== ========

SELECTIVE SERVICE SYSTEM

ORDER TO REPORT FOR INDUCTION

The President of the United States,

To

Your-Name-Here

Greeting:

You are hereby ordered for induction in to the Armed Forces of the United States, and to report
at _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

https://www.pbase.com/image/57202071

:>---

SF

ohiopup 06-18-19 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortfan (Post 7327499)
Would there be a citizenship requirement? That's racist.

Yes ~ sort of...

You can join-up if you have a green-card

Don't be bitter ~ reconsider
Jump on your scooter, and see the recruiter!

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SF

bob22 06-18-19 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7327471)
Discipline

Training



so at least if a war does come and it hits our shores we would be some what prepared. It is just a matter of time that war will not be watching it on the TV but actually happening in our back yards.... these kids are the future and they need to know more than how to text and drive.

Seems like a mighty big if.



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chs1971 06-18-19 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7327471)
Discipline
Training

so at least if a war does come and it hits our shores ...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

eastisbest 06-18-19 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7327471)
Discipline
Training

so at least if a war does come and it hits our shores we would be some what prepared. It is just a matter of time that war will not be watching it on the TV but actually happening in our back yards.... these kids are the future and they need to know more than how to text and drive.

We can't pay for everything and the chances of that type of war are way slim that they can't be handled with present set-up. Wars on this land will begin internal and you've just trained their army. Wars on this land from outside will be electronic, will go after the economy.

There are enough enticements to join the military for those willing to risk combat. Education paid for. Job training. Preferential employment whether you went to combat or stay stateside picking at your nails or whatever. If that doesn't get a kid in, no mandate is going to make them take it seriously. It would be more welfare.

Selective services does your goal and more. But we're probably way past any point of mandating people "serve the state." Too fascist. If we're to live up to ideals and still include socialist agendas like conscription, we're providing opportunities that feed back to the community now and in the future, not mandates.

MickeyMantle 06-18-19 07:49 AM

No.

MickeyMantle 06-18-19 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp2syd (Post 7327471)
they need to know more than how to text and drive.

I'm not sure I've ever rolled my eyes more than while reading this.

thavoice 06-18-19 08:36 AM

NO.


Unless voluntary enlistment falls so far that it is needed. I can only see it if we would get into a WWIII sort of scenario but even at that I wholeheartedly believe that Americans would enlist, and reenlist, in flocks to fight for our country and it wouldn't be needed.


I also think it would work too slowly to get soldiers through BCT and become proficient in their MOS's.

queencitybuckeye 06-18-19 08:48 AM

Only by limiting a young adult's choice to military service or prison can we remain free.

Zunardo 06-18-19 09:15 AM

It's hard enough now to get in the military voluntarily, they're a lot more picky about who they allow to sign up - kinda like how it's almost impossible to get into Ohio State and take classes on the main campus right out of high school unless your SAT (or ACT?) is a certain level or such

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortfan (Post 7327499)
Would there be a citizenship requirement? That's racist.

I checked the Selective Service registration requirements - it does say nearly all male immigrants are required to register, with excepts for visitors, student visas, and diplomatic visas. Women, both citizens and non, are currently exempt. Conclusion: NOT racist, but definitely sexist.

https://www.usa.gov/selective-service

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Originally Posted by ohiopup (Post 7327501)
You can join-up if you have a green-card
[/B]

I spent time on a Tiger Cruise in 1994 on a flat-top. One of my buddy's fellow sailors in the control tower was an Iranian citizen. The guy told me his parents were affiliated with the Shah and had to flee the country before the overthrow. Until that day I had no idea a non-citizen could be in the U.S. military.

ohiopup 06-18-19 01:34 PM

Military Service Obligation...

18 years of age (17 years of age with parental consent) for male and female voluntary service; maximum* enlistment age 42 (Army), 27 (Air Force), 34 (Navy), 28 (Marines); service obligation 8 years, including 2-5 years active duty (Army), 2 years active (Navy), 4 years active (Air Force, Marines)

Those that are unfit for military duty and conscientious objection status may be inducted in service to the country thru Civilian Public Service (CPS) such as Corps of Engineers, U.S.
Forest Service, Certain Health Medical/Mental Services (etc...).

Notes:
The maximum age may be extended by Congress and also for those that have previous
military service the age can increase by the number of years served prior to separation
from active duty.

The 8 obligation may also extended during time of National Emergency to duration

~~~~

It should also be noted that Members of the 'Ready' Reserve ('weekend warriors') and
National Guard would be called up; as well as the Stand-by Reserve (inactive members that
have served active duty for less than the 8 year obligation) / this would fill gap (time
lag) for 'draftee' training.

Former Officers (with special talents) would be recalled.

example - Ted Williams (baseball) pilot (WW-II) recalled for Korea.

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EGA

NewOldBlood 06-18-19 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zunardo (Post 7327644)
It's hard enough now to get in the military voluntarily, they're a lot more picky about who they allow to sign up - kinda like how it's almost impossible to get into Ohio State and take classes on the main campus right out of high school unless your SAT (or ACT?) is a certain level or such

Good point. It took my nephew three years to finally get accepted to the Marines out of high school. All that and he has spent his time basically as a shipping clerk at a base in San Diego.

clarkgriswold 06-18-19 07:14 PM

Fast track to becoming a citizen for military service?

bob22 06-18-19 07:30 PM

Maybe we should put the forgotten phrase of the 2nd amendment to use and conscript gun owners.

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queencitybuckeye 06-18-19 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob22 (Post 7327968)
Maybe we should put the forgotten phrase of the 2nd amendment to use and conscript gun owners.

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The phrase has nothing to do with the military of the state. Just the opposite, actually.

thavoice 06-18-19 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zunardo (Post 7327644)
It's hard enough now to get in the military voluntarily, they're a lot more picky about who they allow to sign up - kinda like how it's almost impossible to get into Ohio State and take classes on the main campus right out of high school unless your SAT (or ACT?) is a certain level or such



I checked the Selective Service registration requirements - it does say nearly all male immigrants are required to register, with excepts for visitors, student visas, and diplomatic visas. Women, both citizens and non, are currently exempt. Conclusion: NOT racist, but definitely sexist.

https://www.usa.gov/selective-service



I spent time on a Tiger Cruise in 1994 on a flat-top. One of my buddy's fellow sailors in the control tower was an Iranian citizen. The guy told me his parents were affiliated with the Shah and had to flee the country before the overthrow. Until that day I had no idea a non-citizen could be in the U.S. military.

One of the big issues the military has is such a large segment of the population cannot meet the height/weight standard and now with many state legalizing marijuana that likely will hurt it as well. They physical standard is pretty easy especially if you played sports and the ASVAB score shouldn't be a problem either, but it can be.

As you know, they relax standards when we are at a large scale war and they waived quite a few indescretions.

irish_buffalo 06-19-19 06:48 AM

Just as I figured. So many quick to call for war, unless it is them fighting it.

Raymo 06-19-19 07:18 AM

The cycle of war will bring the draft if needed,no stopping these idiots that are elected.


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