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MasonComet
01-10-09, 03:30 PM
MasonComet thinks Tim Tebow is not too different Brett Favre. His throwing motion is longer sure, but that's pretty minor when you consider all of Tebow's intangibles. If Brett Favre can be considered one of the greatest NFL QBs of all time and break several NFL records, Tim Tebow can at least start of an NFL team. Let's not forget that there are are not just bad quarterbacks in the NFL, but bad quarterbacks who start. And he can't even make an NFL roster?!?! His competitive spirit is second to none which is something all great NFL quarterbacks have. Also, he has played the best defenses in college for over two seasons, something Brett Favre never did at Southern Miss. Tim Tebow learned a lot while waiting for Chris Leak in college and can do the same in the NFL.

I know the media is teaching everyone that he has no chance, but I'm not sold. With all of the bums on NFL rosters, if he's available and I need a QB, I'm taking a chance. BTW, Vince Young's career isn't over (unless he is unable to overcome his mental problems). Keep in mind VY started his rookie season with no break-in period like some QBs benefit from (Carson Palmer). Not a Hall of Famer, but I think he could still be decent and the facts are 1) his throwing motion is MUCH worse than Tim Tebow's 2) Mentally Tim Tebow is light years ahead of him.



My point is not to say Tim Tebow will or won't be a good NFL QB. No one is able to predict that (Reggie Bush, Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich, etc) but I'm just of the opinion it is ridiculous to not even give him a chance.



May the bashing begin...

BRICKtamland
01-10-09, 04:25 PM
Bad post (opinion).

AccordingToMe
01-11-09, 11:31 AM
The problem is that draft experts are already saying he'd likely be drafted as a full back/H back player. :shrug:

I can't really see him as anything but what he is now though, which just won't work in the NFL.

MasonComet
01-11-09, 12:03 PM
Bad post (opinion).Worse post (opinion).

seahawks4life
01-11-09, 12:46 PM
MasonComet thinks Tim Tebow is not too different Brett Favre.


May the bashing begin...

seahawksman thinks you are outta your mind, in your first sentance you are even wrong, the two have completely different throwing motions..lol

brett is a rb playing quarterback, isnt as big, and favre is his own player and noone ever will match his ability to create plays outta nothing

brett was a once n a lifetime QB who constantly took chances (shown by most career int's...lol) and those chances are argueabley what made him one of the best of all time

you are gonna get bashed because comparing anyone to brett favre (let alone someone who's potential as a successful nfl QB are very small) is crazy....brett is in the category of elway montana marino and the best of all time so the player being compared better be d@mn good IMO

O-H-I-O12
01-11-09, 12:56 PM
I'll back you up Mason, I really hate how people are counting him out already of not being able to play QB in the NFL. He deserves a chance and atleast see what he can do.

RHSfootball05
01-11-09, 01:13 PM
The nfl needs to go to the shotgun more

recently
01-11-09, 01:25 PM
Nice to see the return of (opinion).

(opinion)

MasonComet
01-11-09, 01:27 PM
seahawksman thinks you are outta your mind, in your first sentance you are even wrong, the two have completely different throwing motions..lolAlready addressed that...thanks for not reading.

seahawks4life
01-11-09, 02:22 PM
Already addressed that...thanks for not reading.

you said it was a tad longer, thanks for not making a point at all:rolleyes:

brett favre and tim tebow alike:eek:

AccordingToMe
01-11-09, 02:28 PM
brett favre and tim tebow alike:eek:

I hate to agree with you, but I tend to think the same thing.

MasonComet
01-11-09, 03:29 PM
you said it was a tad longer, thanks for not making a point at all:rolleyes:

brett favre and tim tebow alike:eek:You're still missing the point. There is no such thing as "an NFL qb has to be exactly like this." We're caught up in height/weight, throwing motion, etc to the point that we discount intangibles. Time and time again we see good players emerge who were drafted in later rounds. Brett Favre and Tim Tebow are alike in the sense that neither one "fit the mold" of how a QB "should" play the game but they both find ways to will their team to win. Bernie Kosar was different from both of them in the sense that he was very nonathletic. He also had what most experts would say is a horrific throwing motion. Yet somehow he manged to play in the NFL for 12 season. Again, they all do it it differently than each other but all go outside of the prototype.

In the 4th quarter of the SEC Championship game, Tim Tebow led two phenomenal drives to help his team to victory.That's when wide receiver Carl Moore got a feeling about his quarterback.

"I knew [ Tim Tebow] was going to step up big time, I just knew it," said Moore, who caught the first touchdown pass of Florida's 31-20 victory against Alabama. "Everyone in our locker room knew that he was going to win this for us at the end of the game." But people won't even give him a chance because they don't like the way he throws.

BRICKtamland
01-11-09, 03:35 PM
Worse post (opinion).

Agree to disagree.

Tebow's throwing motion is WAY too long. Unless the team he plays for has the greatest o-line ever, he has no shot to be a successful NFL QB. It has been proven time and again that college QB's in gimmick offenses don't translate to the NFL.

buckfan1017
01-11-09, 03:39 PM
He's going to need to fall into a perfect situation to succeed as a QB imo. He's got a future in the NFL, but it's as Chris Cooley, not Brett Favre. Maybe he gets to throw in a Wildcat look, but that's about it.

BRICKtamland
01-11-09, 03:41 PM
You're still missing the point. There is no such thing as "an NFL qb has to be exactly like this." We're caught up in height/weight, throwing motion, etc to the point that we discount intangibles.

You can't rate intangibles on a draft board. How do you prove a player has "intangibles?" I don't think Tebow finds ways to win games, I just think the team he plays for is more talented than the team he plays against. He had a great year last year, but Florida lost four games...where was he? The team wins and loses the games, not him.

seahawks4life
01-11-09, 03:51 PM
Bernie Kosar was different from both of them in the sense that he was very nonathletic. He also had what most experts would say is a horrific throwing motion. Yet somehow he manged to play in the NFL for 12 season.


In the 4th quarter of the SEC Championship game, Tim Tebow led two phenomenal drives to help his team to victory. But people won't even give him a chance because they don't like the way he throws.

bernie kosar succeed in the nfl because he could read ANY defense and was one of the smartest QB's in the history of the nfl detecting what the defense was running, tebow doesnt have this, besides kosar could actually throw the ball

in the nfl the primary job is to throw the ball is it not?:shrug:
not run

tebow isnt a great thrower(not jst cause of his throwing style)

he's not even the number one QB coming into the draft if he enters...great college QB yes, but no way he succeeds as an nfl QB like brett favre did

MasonComet
01-11-09, 03:52 PM
You can't rate intangibles on a draft board. How do you prove a player has "intangibles?" I don't think Tebow finds ways to win games, I just think the team he plays for is more talented than the team he plays against. He had a great year last year, but Florida lost four games...where was he? The team wins and loses the games, not him.Fair enough. But just to clarify, I never said he should go in the first or second round, either.

MasonComet
01-11-09, 03:58 PM
besides kosar could actually throw the ball

in the nfl the primary job is to throw the ball is it not?:shrug:
not runObviously, you give him zero chance which is fine and I respect your opinion. But the running part of his game gets a little too much credit...he threw 30 touchdown passes and 4 INTs this season.

gclbaseball1
01-11-09, 05:18 PM
I wouldn't doubt Tim Tebow, he seems very determined to prove people wrong. I think he would be a fine nfl QB. GO BUCKS!!!

seahawks4life
01-11-09, 05:59 PM
Obviously, you give him zero chance which is fine and I respect your opinion. But the running part of his game gets a little too much credit...he threw 30 touchdown passes and 4 INTs this season.

i dont give him zero chance i jst dont think he will be great as a nfl QB, jst my opion doesnt mean he wont

and 30 td's to 4 ints doesnt matter at all...college stats dont transfer over to nfl

you saw what he did in the nat'l championship game with 2 ints

mbgumby28
01-11-09, 09:01 PM
What Tim Tebow has that could carry him over to the NFL is the ability to push his teammates to do their best and to make himself work hard.

BRICKtamland
01-11-09, 09:31 PM
What Tim Tebow has that could carry him over to the NFL is the ability to push his teammates to do their best and to make himself work hard.

Every player that gets to the NFL works hard.

O-H-I-O12
01-11-09, 11:04 PM
:laugh:

Good one.

Tim Tebow will be fine.

Everyone thinks this Wildcat fad will come and go in just a couple seasons...well you're wrong. Almost every team will have something like this in their offense next year and eventually the NFL is going to go to a predominately single-wing based league. This will happen to simply get rid of the tenacious DBs in the league. Teams will have to start going to 6 or 7 man fronts to defend such offenses or they will get smoked.

Tebow is the man. He has heart which is something lacked in approximately 75% of players in the NFL (IMO). He'll get it done.

He has the ability to pass too, give him an NFL QB coach and he'll be fine. Did anyone not see the 4th quarter passes in the championship game?

Basically, if little players like Sproles from the Chargers can survive getting destroyed by the likes of Ray Lewis and James Farrior, Tebow should be able to take a blow.He should be able to deliver them too.

recently
01-11-09, 11:10 PM
His determination and work ethic will be enough to land him on a roster somewhere. I'd play him. The guy is crazy, like Mike Tyson but in a good way.

Hurri-Comet
01-12-09, 01:06 PM
Yes, I can't wait to see a Tebow-Polamolu clash...

After seeing some of the hits Tebow dished out past three years that would be 18 wheeler smash-up! As it is, I hear he is coming back to play senior season.