What a self important jerk!!!!!

[gobluetom]

Obama also fielded a pointed personal question during an ABC News town hall at the White House on Wednesday. The prime-time program was the latest in a string of events designed to build public support for his plan to slow the rise in health care costs and expand coverage to the nearly 50 million uninsured.

Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist at the New York University Langone Medical Center, challenged Obama: What if the president's wife and daughters got sick? Would Obama promise that they would get only the services allowed under a new government insurance plan he's proposing. Obama wouldn't bite.

If "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care," Obama said

[O-H-I-O12]

We get it, you don't like Obama, as LCD would say, "Quit your damn crying".

[gobluetom]

We get it, you don't like Obama, as LCD would say, "Quit your damn crying".

You don't think his position is wrong? He is saying I want my family to have the best health care, but not everyone else. If you agree with him, then you have issues.

[concha]

This is typical liberal elite BS.

MY family will have the best private schools and the best private health care. YOU send YOUR family to the crap schools and health care options I provide you with other people's money. But no way MY family is waiting for rationed care and on lists for important surgeries for weeks and months. No way MY family isn't getting the best chemo medication because a bureaucrat says it's too expensive.

[eastisbest]

But, he can afford it, it's his own money. Not sure I see your point.

[WykidWytch]

As long as anyone else that can afford care above and beyond what is offered is permitted to purchase it, then I don't see the big deal here.

If I get a free steak dinner, I'm not going to be pissed if it's not prime rib. I would expect to pay for prime rib and if I can't afford it on my own, then I have to be happy with what I've been given. If I'm not happy with what I'm given, then I need to rise above and do what it takes to reach my own level of satisfaction.

[MOUNT-UNION82]

I don't blame Obama for wanting the best for his family, who doesn't?

I have a good memory though. It was saying things like this that made the left despise Dick Cheyney (or so they shaped it so). The press and the left media (and this board) would have literally eaten Bush or Cheyney alive for that kind of "Republican" comment. That's one of the things that bothers me the most, the blatant double standard of media outrage and criticism (or total lack of). The media creates the perceptions that many people languish in...

One of the great mysteries to me, is how the media turned Dick Cheyney into such an evil and horrible individual to fit the leftist agenda. What did Cheyney ever really do? Not much is REAL answer, but as I said, the media can make anyone into anything they wish.

But they give a total and complete pass to Obama, no matter what he says, does or doesn't do.

[Best in the West]

But, he can afford it, it's his own money. Not sure I see your point.

Of course he can afford it. Obama's doesn't pay out of pocket for his own (and family) healthcare. It's covered by his employer, the citizens of the United States.

[Buck1974]

But, he can afford it, it's his own money. Not sure I see your point.

Then you need to think about it a little more. Gobluetom has a very valid point. Obama is essentially admitting that government health care may be second rate (which in every nation that has it, it is second rate or worse, the wealthy go to private care facilities). The problem if this new plan is forced through which I hope it is not, most Americans except the very wealthy like, Obama, Pelosi, etc... who will be able to afford private health care, will be forced to go under the government plan. Most employers are going to drop their health care coverage for employees if this goes into effect and thus pretty much everyone will be on the government plan which will provide inferior service by limiting medical tests, procedures and medications if some bureaucrat in Washington does not think the treatments are cost effective. In Britain, women are being denied Breast Cancer treatments to save money and if anyone thinks the same think won't happen here they are truly delusional.

This again is typical of the liberals in this nation, do as I say, not as I do. Obama and pretty much every congressman send their children to private schools while they want to repeal a voucher system that lets inner city kids go to private schools in Washington. I guess they don't want those inner city kids at the same private schools as their own kids. This is the pure definition of hypocrisy.

[SLCDad]

We lived in England for a couple of years. All of the best hospitals and best doctors are private and are NOT in their national health system. In England the rich have one health system and the poor have another.

If you live in Canada and need the best healthcare, you come to the United States.

In the United States today even the poor get great health service (even if they can't pay). Nobody is denied healthcare. Obama's plan will change that so the quality of healthcare goes down for almost everybody.

[eastisbest]

Of course he can afford it. Obama's doesn't pay out of pocket for his own (and family) healthcare. It's covered by his employer, the citizens of the United States.

Doesn't matter who his employer is, if he can afford it, he has a right to it. Good for him for getting a job with good benefits. There's a reason we want our President to be healthy.



Then you need to think about it a little more. Gobluetom has a very valid point. ... problem if this new plan is forced through which I hope it is not, most Americans except the very wealthy like, Obama, Pelosi, etc...

Your chioce of "wealthy" Americans leads me to suspect a political spin to your comments, but still seems worth looking up and reading more. Competition for health care networks is thin enough. If this would change significantly the number of players by than I would agree, this is not worthwhile. At the same time, I feel it important that working poor have access to "reasonable" health care beyond workmanscomp.

It's always about where to draw the line I guess.

[BRICKtamland]

This is typical liberal elite BS.

MY family will have the best private schools and the best private health care. YOU send YOUR family to the crap schools and health care options I provide you with other people's money. But no way MY family is waiting for rationed care and on lists for important surgeries for weeks and months. No way MY family isn't getting the best chemo medication because a bureaucrat says it's too expensive.

Would you not do the same. If you could afford it? :shrug:

[MOUNT-UNION82]

I've thought about this a bit and the problem is, we haven't seen a real leader in the whitehouse for some time now, so we don't even know what one looks like anymore. Leadership today unfortunately means, little more than reading a pretty speech...

A real leader that believed in his health care plan, would develop a health care plan and then utilize it himself. And we would mandate all those under his charge, utilize it as well. (congress, senate etc).

But as I said, we've forgotten how real leaders could and should respond. So we find all these ambiguities in our leaders (using the word loosely), as acceptable...

Note: I'm still strongly against government ran nationalized health care; spending other people's money is becoming way too easy.

[SternRulz]

Where I work we have 3 or 4 choices for medical coverage and a couple each for vision and dental coverage. The most expensive out-of-pocket gives you the most coverage, the least expensive OOP gives you the least coverage. Same providers, same quality of care, it's just the OOP cost that's different. You choose the plan that you can afford or that you think will benefit you the most.

The statement is a non-issue. As MU stated, who doesn't want the best for their family?

[LittleCardsDad]

As long as anyone else that can afford care above and beyond what is offered is permitted to purchase it, then I don't see the big deal here.

If I get a free steak dinner, I'm not going to be pissed if it's not prime rib. I would expect to pay for prime rib and if I can't afford it on my own, then I have to be happy with what I've been given. If I'm not happy with what I'm given, then I need to rise above and do what it takes to reach my own level of satisfaction.

But that isn't how it works in this Country. If you can't afford food, we give you food stamps. If you can't afford your rent, we pay it for you. What makes you think once we put the Government in charge of health care, the same pervasive attitude won't apply?

[Norman Dale]

But that isn't how it works in this Country. If you can't afford food, we give you food stamps. If you can't afford your rent, we pay it for you. What makes you think once we put the Government in charge of health care, the same pervasive attitude won't apply?

BINGO! (Oh, you forgot to mention public education...)

[SternRulz]

But that isn't how it works in this Country. If you can't afford food, we give you food stamps. If you can't afford your rent, we pay it for you. What makes you think once we put the Government in charge of health care, the same pervasive attitude won't apply?

You get health care now if you can't afford it. Comes along with the food and housing you mentioned. And don't forget daycare too.

[LittleCardsDad]

You get health care now if you can't afford it. Comes along with the food and housing you mentioned. And don't forget daycare too.

You get medicaid now which is about as lousy as it gets. If you're lucky enough to find a real doctor to accept it, the restrictions on covered services are steep. However, most doctors don't accept it which is why they end up using clinics or ER's as a primary source of care. The problem is what will happen to the costs when those people are no longer restricted to the confines of medicaid? You know they're going to demand to be put onto the same public medical system as everybody else and do you seriously think liberal bed wetters like Bwaney Fwank and Henry Waxman are going to tell them no? This is going to be a castastrophe if the Pub's can't kill it. Or we can just keep watching the Democrat circular firing squad going on over the matter and hope they never get it together. Odds of passing a sweeping health care initiative with a public option right now, 40% and falling.

[concha]

Would you not do the same. If you could afford it? :shrug:

I can afford it now because there is a viable private insurance industry.

Spending trillions to get the government involved wil slowly but surely drive private insurance out of business and more and more people to "the public option". Rationed care. Bureaucrats determining what medications people can have. Bureaucrats determining how much doctors can make - thus driving the cream of the crop away from medical careers.

The president will never have to worry about this. Neither does Congress (I'll have to look it up, but I believe they will maintain their primo elite government paid-for health coverage - good at private hospitals).

[Buck1974]

Your chioce of "wealthy" Americans leads me to suspect a political spin to your comments, but still seems worth looking up and reading more.

My choice of "wealthy" Americans is to prove a point, they, meaning very liberal democrats not republicans, are the ones forcing this down our throats yet they know they never have to worry about an inferior public health care systems since they will have the money to pay high quality private doctors, while the other 95% of Americans won't.

[eastisbest]

My choice of "wealthy" Americans is to prove a point, they, meaning very liberal democrats not republicans, are the ones forcing this down our throats yet they know they never have to worry about an inferior public health care systems since they will have the money to pay high quality private doctors, while the other 95% of Americans won't.

Fair enough.