View Full Version : Colerain baseball season in the tank
What happened to this team that started out 4-0 ? Possibly just a lucky start because I saw this team setup for a failure from the begining.
The coach is mearly the AD's puppet and it looks like his main focus for the year was to have the AD's son not only play, but start on varsity.
Funny because I had heard the freshman was on the JV team. But, that all changed after the coach told him he was on JV and then the player had a tantrum and slammed the door on the coach. Nice. I've also heard he's had tantrums on the field as well this year.
Funny too that a starting pitcher throws a no hitter and get's no ink in the paper. The freshman knocks in a run ( on an error...not an RBI) and get's an article in the paper. Question is...who wrote it ? AD or coach... we'll never know but we know one thing. The coaches job is safe for at least the next three season,win or lose...and that's a sad thing especially for a program that has some talent that's not going to get a chance.
Colerain baseball 2009 is the epitome of politics and what is so wrong with so many sports today.
KnightsDad#1
04-25-09, 10:14 PM
It is a shame. The season looked promising in the begining.
I happend to be at the Northwest game where Northwest beat Colerain. Poor coaching on the Colerain side. That was definitely the start of a slide for the team and the season is in real jeopardy.
As for your talk about Bolden's son... what do you expect. That's just the way it was going to be. Just like football. The kid has no business sniffing the Varsity field. Play Freshmen ball or even prove yourself on JV but from what I saw the kid has no business playing Varsity baseball. From what I know I can definitely see the AD controlling the coaches decisions. That's just the way the guy is.
It's a shame for the talented sophomore's and juniors playing JV that deserve a spot on the Varsity. I don't know why and how the parents in the program put up with this favortism...nepotism.... It's really a shame but you better just get used to it, it's not going to change unless there is a change in the AD position.
I'm certainly glad my kids are done with high school sports.
MasonComet
04-26-09, 09:15 PM
Wow, if I were a player on a team just a 1/2 game out of first place, I'd hate to hear my "fans" proclaiming that "the season is in the tank". :wallbang:
pumpkin
04-28-09, 12:07 AM
What happened to this team that started out 4-0 ? Possibly just a lucky start because I saw this team setup for a failure from the begining.
The coach is mearly the AD's puppet and it looks like his main focus for the year was to have the AD's son not only play, but start on varsity.
Funny because I had heard the freshman was on the JV team. But, that all changed after the coach told him he was on JV and then the player had a tantrum and slammed the door on the coach. Nice. I've also heard he's had tantrums on the field as well this year.
Funny too that a starting pitcher throws a no hitter and get's no ink in the paper. The freshman knocks in a run ( on an error...not an RBI) and get's an article in the paper. Question is...who wrote it ? AD or coach... we'll never know but we know one thing. The coaches job is safe for at least the next three season,win or lose...and that's a sad thing especially for a program that has some talent that's not going to get a chance.
Colerain baseball 2009 is the epitome of politics and what is so wrong with so many sports today.
Sounds like someone is jealous. As far as talent goes in the program, probably should check that. Looks like with the exception of a couple of players, nobody is doing that great swinging the bat. As far as Bolden playing on the freshman team, that is ridiculous. He is where he needs to be.
gocards
04-28-09, 12:53 AM
Sounds like someone is jealous. As far as talent goes in the program, probably should check that. Looks like with the exception of a couple of players, nobody is doing that great swinging the bat. As far as Bolden playing on the freshman team, that is ridiculous. He is where he needs to be.
Looking at the GMC stats to date the kid is hitting .250 and has 1 error in 13 games. That would indicate to me that he belongs where he is.
not as smart as you
04-28-09, 10:54 AM
Looking at the GMC stats to date the kid is hitting .250 and has 1 error in 13 games. That would indicate to me that he belongs where he is.
I don't make many baseball games so I can only go off what I witnessed at Badin. I was there watching a particular Badin Football player and thought I was at a Colerain / Badin Pigskin Classic.
From where I stand, the Colerain freshman in question DOES NOT belong at the Varsity level, in fact I don't think he really fits in the game of baseball too well, Very unnatural looking.
Take stats and through them out the window, even if his batting average was better than it is, what I saw was resentment from people wondering why this kid was in the game and why he stayed in the game?
In case some of you don't know what happened, there was a pop-up hit by the Colerain Fresh and the Badin first baseman was ready to catch the ball, completely looking up in the air when the Fresh leveled the him. No they didn't "run in to each other" this was a head hunt. The umpire called the Fresh out for intentional interference.
If I remember right Colerain was winnning the game by a couple runs in the 5th or so. After the Fresh did what he did Badin woke up and pounded Colerain.
From what I hear there are players who can't stand this kid and parents who are crying foul, they think this kid should earn his spot, not bat a mere .250, talk back to coaches (from what I read on here) and generally bring down the team by getting a free pass like at the Badin game.
BTW the Fresh stayed in the game even after the Badin players and fans loudly protested the violent act long after it was over.
I don't make many baseball games so I can only go off what I witnessed at Badin. I was there watching a particular Badin Football player and thought I was at a Colerain / Badin Pigskin Classic.
From where I stand, the Colerain freshman in question DOES NOT belong at the Varsity level, in fact I don't think he really fits in the game of baseball too well, Very unnatural looking.
Take stats and through them out the window, even if his batting average was better than it is, what I saw was resentment from people wondering why this kid was in the game and why he stayed in the game?
In case some of you don't know what happened, there was a pop-up hit by the Colerain Fresh and the Badin first baseman was ready to catch the ball, completely looking up in the air when the Fresh leveled the him. No they didn't "run in to each other" this was a head hunt. The umpire called the Fresh out for intentional interference.
If I remember right Colerain was winnning the game by a couple runs in the 5th or so. After the Fresh did what he did Badin woke up and pounded Colerain.
From what I hear there are players who can't stand this kid and parents who are crying foul, they think this kid should earn his spot, not bat a mere .250, talk back to coaches (from what I read on here) and generally bring down the team by getting a free pass like at the Badin game.
BTW the Fresh stayed in the game even after the Badin players and fans loudly protested the violent act long after it was over.
If it was such a violent intentional interference why did the umpire not throw him out of the game?
not as smart as you
04-28-09, 02:01 PM
If it was such a violent intentional interference why did the umpire not throw him out of the game?
If you seen what happened you would wonder the same, it was the most blatant disregard for sportsmanship you could imagine.
To answer your question....maybe cuz his (Colerain Fresh) dad pays some of his checks / schedules him? Maybe not, Who knows but it created the same question buzzing through the stands the rest of the night.
No way the Kid is playing Varsity baseball under normal circumstances!
SMARTY22
04-28-09, 02:18 PM
wow! of course the seasons in the tank if hitting .250 means u should play everyday on varsity. errors for HS are hard to judge unless u r present for them. most teams have a parent or "friend of program" keeping score. mayb AD keeps score.
gocards
04-28-09, 03:23 PM
wow! of course the seasons in the tank if hitting .250 means u should play everyday on varsity. errors for HS are hard to judge unless u r present for them. most teams have a parent or "friend of program" keeping score. mayb AD keeps score.
There is another freshman on the varsity with much worse stats. Why is no one questioning him being on the varsity?
not as smart as you
04-28-09, 03:29 PM
There is another freshman on the varsity with much worse stats. Why is no one questioning him being on the varsity?
Colerain has two freshman playing everyday? Good point if that's true.
gocards
04-28-09, 03:32 PM
Colerain has two freshman playing everyday? Good point if that's true.
That's not what I said.
not as smart as you
04-28-09, 03:46 PM
That's not what I said.
Hey even though I know the Badin player he hit, BTW he is a Big kid and was down for awhile...
The Colerain Fresh is a tough son of a gun and will probably do it again, problem is...
It was a cheap shot and has no place in High School BASEBALL!!
gocards
04-28-09, 03:59 PM
Hey even though I know the Badin player he hit, BTW he is a Big kid and was down for awhile...
The Colerain Fresh is a tough son of a gun and would probably have done it again, problem is...
It was a cheap shot and has no place in High School BASEBALL!!
I wasn't at the game and I'm not responding to and incident that I was not a witness to. I'm responding to the allegation that the only reason that he is on the team is because he is the AD's son. You always have people that feel that way when a coaches son plays sports no matter how good he is.
I want to start by saying northwest played amazing against colerain... They deserved to win that game.
Colerain took them so lightly it was ridiculous the lack of respect they showed towards Roberts and his players. Colerains coach is also a very disrespectful loser, he was rude towards Roberts and argued once he realized they were defeated
Daddy ball also had a costly catchers interference, which allowed the inning to continue and NW to take the lead and win.
The interference was such a FRESHMAN mistake, and I don't think forrester would make that costly of a mistake
Ridethepine
04-28-09, 09:37 PM
Why not focus on the good or bad of the program and not just one student/athlete? If you are adults on this thread talking about a 15 year old kid you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. It's amazing how everyone is a coach, but when it's time to step up and take time out to do just that, many back away. If you are kids on this thread, grow-up!
If he can't handle the heat and criticism why's he at this level
pumpkin
04-28-09, 11:45 PM
I want to start by saying northwest played amazing against colerain... They deserved to win that game.
Colerain took them so lightly it was ridiculous the lack of respect they showed towards Roberts and his players. Colerains coach is also a very disrespectful loser, he was rude towards Roberts and argued once he realized they were defeated
Daddy ball also had a costly catchers interference, which allowed the inning to continue and NW to take the lead and win.
The interference was such a FRESHMAN mistake, and I don't think forrester would make that costly of a mistake
Badin player in question was at the bag when the popup came down, it was a situation where both players were moving to the same intended spot and there was a collision. Difference was that the Badin player was exposed because he was looking up and not at the runner. Could the runner have moved out of the way, maybe, but then people would have questioned whether he was playing hard or soft for avoiding contact. He is in a can't win postion. BTW, I believe he had 2 really good AB's, one a sac fly for an RBI and then a drive to centerfield that should have scored a run except the upperclassman did'nt get to third on a ball that was in the right field corner. Have to question all the players, not just the one with the popular name.
Badin player in question was at the bag when the popup came down, it was a situation where both players were moving to the same intended spot and there was a collision. Difference was that the Badin player was exposed because he was looking up and not at the runner. Could the runner have moved out of the way, maybe, but then people would have questioned whether he was playing hard or soft for avoiding contact. He is in a can't win postion. BTW, I believe he had 2 really good AB's, one a sac fly for an RBI and then a drive to centerfield that should have scored a run except the upperclassman did'nt get to third on a ball that was in the right field corner. Have to question all the players, not just the one with the popular name.
no idea why you quoted my post? ha didnt really comment on anything i talked about? But i was stating just a fact never bashed on him, but thought that was a costly FRESHMAN mistake. Im sure people would agree on who saw it or read correctly
not as smart as you
04-29-09, 10:48 AM
Badin player in question was at the bag when the popup came down, it was a situation where both players were moving to the same intended spot and there was a collision. Difference was that the Badin player was exposed because he was looking up and not at the runner. Could the runner have moved out of the way, maybe, but then people would have questioned whether he was playing hard or soft for avoiding contact. He is in a can't win postion. BTW, I believe he had 2 really good AB's, one a sac fly for an RBI and then a drive to centerfield that should have scored a run except the upperclassman did'nt get to third on a ball that was in the right field corner. Have to question all the players, not just the one with the popular name.
Lets get one thing straight, the Colerain Fresh smoked the Badin vulnerable 1st baseman, in no way was it (the intentional collision) necessary to avoid being considered soft!
It was cheap and I believe cost Colerain the game!
GMCGUY15
04-30-09, 07:50 PM
They can always turn things around
soasfan
04-30-09, 08:08 PM
Is there a freshman baseball team at Colerain?
BiggMann
04-30-09, 08:16 PM
How is the Atkins kid doing? His father talks very highly of him.
canes03
05-01-09, 12:41 AM
How is the Atkins kid doing? His father talks very highly of him.
dad speakes highly of both kids remember he is/was a football coach with the a.d.
BiggMann
05-01-09, 09:00 AM
dad speakes highly of both kids remember he is/was a football coach with the a.d.
Interesting. I didn't know that. I'm not from the area.
colerainFRbball
05-01-09, 09:36 PM
How is the Atkins kid doing? His father talks very highly of him.
Are you talking about Atkinson? and yes there is a freshmen team at colerain. oh yeah one more thing the no hitter made it into the paper finally... the big Northwest Press, only being two weeks late.
GMCGUY15
05-02-09, 01:36 AM
who honestly cares about the no hitter.. the next time out the kid laid an egg colerain is playing better and thats all they will need going into the playoffs
colerainFRbball
05-02-09, 09:23 PM
who honestly cares about the no hitter.. the next time out the kid laid an egg colerain is playing better and thats all they will need going into the playoffs
how bad did the kid do?
Baseball is my fav
05-04-09, 11:34 AM
Sounds like someone is jealous. As far as talent goes in the program, probably should check that. Looks like with the exception of a couple of players, nobody is doing that great swinging the bat. As far as Bolden playing on the freshman team, that is ridiculous. He is where he needs to be.
It's not jealously. The Bolden freshman needs to be on the freshman team and prove himself. EVERYONE knows this but can't speak up because of his dad being the AD. Let the kids who worked hard and earned that spot play. That is the way it should be. You work hard and earn it, not handed to him on a silver platter. If Barber is afraid of Bolden AD, Barber needs to find another job, one that he can make his own decision and not worry if he'll have a job if he would have put Bolden on freshman. Bolden needs to EARN baseball and football privledges. That's just ridiculous and leave it Colerain.
Baseball is my fav
05-04-09, 11:38 AM
Is there a freshman baseball team at Colerain?
Yes, coached by Adam Hull. Awesome coach. My son had him 5 years ago.
stayflyyy22
05-04-09, 12:46 PM
Colerains catcher has a piss cannon.
Colerains catcher has a piss cannon.
Huh?
stayflyyy22
05-04-09, 02:13 PM
Colerains catcher has an extremely good arm "piss cannon"
SMARTY22
05-04-09, 02:39 PM
There is another freshman on the varsity with much worse stats. Why is no one questioning him being on the varsity?
then he shouldnt b on team either! who's he related 2? thats pathetic for a school with that many kids to have 2 start or even play consistently 2 freshman on Varsity. Sounds like the coach is not seeking best talent in his school? record now?
GMCGUY15
05-04-09, 11:08 PM
Colerains catcher has an extremely good arm "piss cannon"
what game(s) did u watch
frznrope
05-05-09, 08:37 AM
Colerains catcher has a piss cannon.
yeah,thats why he keeps throwing the ball into the outfield. his arm is so strong he cant help but overthrow the infielders.
colerain has let a chance for good season go down the tubes again. what a waste. i know hundley is not back to 100 % yet but they do have other pitchers who can throw (shock,seger,green). there are some good hitters on the team(preisman,foster,forester) and the defense is not bad, so why cant they win? any ideas???? i agree with the original thread, the season is in the tank
stayflyyy22
05-05-09, 08:44 PM
Well if the catcher can pitch it then catch and then field it, they might win.
colerainFRbball
05-05-09, 09:24 PM
Well if the catcher can pitch it then catch and then field it, they might win.
This might be the most dumb post i have ever read. First of all the guy said he OVER throws the ball EVERY time, then why would they want him to be pitching? Honestly dumbest thing i have ever read. Think about what you say first.
GMCGUY15
05-06-09, 10:50 PM
who are talkin about... bolden?
stayflyyy22
05-07-09, 12:44 PM
This might be the most dumb post i have ever read. First of all the guy said he OVER throws the ball EVERY time, then why would they want him to be pitching? Honestly dumbest thing i have ever read. Think about what you say first.
Sorry frosh.
colerainFRbball
05-07-09, 07:55 PM
Sorry frosh.
This was a much better post than your last one. Why would i be talking about bolden?
Football Guy
05-07-09, 08:36 PM
who are talkin about... bolden?
No, the catcher is Forrester. He's got to be leading the league in over throws and passed balls. Look for Bolden to be the starting catcher next year.
stayflyyy22
05-07-09, 09:08 PM
Bolden will be leading the league in one hoppers down to second next year.
GMCGUY15
05-07-09, 09:43 PM
haha thats funny :)
Baseball is my fav
05-08-09, 11:27 AM
No, the catcher is Forrester. He's got to be leading the league in over throws and passed balls. Look for Bolden to be the starting catcher next year.
Real funny. My guess is he will be head coach the way it's going..........so sad, he's not even that good. (Not Forrester, but Bolden)
stayflyyy22
05-08-09, 12:51 PM
At least Forrester puts something on the ball instead of throwing lolli pops down to second.
colerainFRbball
05-08-09, 07:29 PM
At least Forrester puts something on the ball instead of throwing lolli pops down to second.
Yeah but too bad you cant throw people out in center field or right, but hey i guess accuracy is over-rated...
GMCGUY15
05-08-09, 09:38 PM
thts why he throws out kids like ricky finley
colerainFRbball
05-08-09, 10:51 PM
thts why he throws out kids like ricky finley
So if you would count right now how many kids do you think the catcher has thrown out. Im pretty sure its one person.
WOGreen
05-10-09, 08:39 PM
So if you would count right now how many kids do you think the catcher has thrown out. Im pretty sure its one person.
I'd say his "throw out" percentage is in the range of 5% to 10%. Not very good. In fact, errors, throws and passed balls certainly cost them games against Oak Hills. A strong arm is useless unless there is accuracy.
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