View Full Version : Westside Little League
outsideview
12-02-08, 08:34 AM
Who are the coaches this year for the 11 - 12 yrs. olds?
bambam30
12-02-08, 01:05 PM
From what I understand, all coaches will be the same except for the Dodgers.
kentucky fan 12
12-02-08, 11:15 PM
BamBam- I believe they are referring to the 11-12 year old all-stars. Once again it gets started before the season begins. My guess is it would be the 11 year old all-star coach from last year. I would imagine batman and robin will have the tens next year. Who knows.
Shouldn't it be robin and robin.
bambam30
12-03-08, 08:15 AM
Shouldn't it be robin and robin.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
bambam30
12-03-08, 08:16 AM
BamBam- I believe they are referring to the 11-12 year old all-stars. Once again it gets started before the season begins. My guess is it would be the 11 year old all-star coach from last year. I would imagine batman and robin will have the tens next year. Who knows.
I hope no one is worried about all-stars already.
What a difference a year makes. Last year at this time we were annointing the 12's another trip to Williamsport. However I totally agree with you. What time are open workouts this weekend by the way?
BlueFan82
12-03-08, 10:15 AM
I'm just chugging some of that Jim Jones Kool-Aid. :D
kentucky fan 12
12-03-08, 11:12 AM
I wonder who thought the 12's from last year would have been a sure thing to go to williamsport? I will admit I thought we would make it to regionals but further than that is a stretch. I watched MT. Vernon play up in Southpoint and they were not that good, but they did what they had to do to win.
My bad, I must have misread those statements then. If so I apologize. How about there were a lot of posters pondering the trip to Williamsport? Lets admit that you have to be really talented and real well coached to get there. At least 2 big guns on the hill and then some hitting 1-6 at the minimum. The WSLL thread is like crack or something, I need non-celebrity rehab.
Bam-just playing, don't go ripping through any tank tops or anything.
outsideview
12-03-08, 01:08 PM
BamBam- I believe they are referring to the 11-12 year old all-stars. Once again it gets started before the season begins. My guess is it would be the 11 year old all-star coach from last year. I would imagine batman and robin will have the tens next year. Who knows.
I was interested in the coaches of the regular season teams. My grandson is moving up and I am interested in knowing who all the coaches are going to be.
YouWishYouKnew11
12-03-08, 03:03 PM
My bad, I must have misread those statements then. If so I apologize. How about there were a lot of posters pondering the trip to Williamsport? Lets admit that you have to be really talented and real well coached to get there. At least 2 big guns on the hill and then some hitting 1-6 at the minimum. The WSLL thread is like crack or something, I need non-celebrity rehab.
Bam-just playing, don't go ripping through any tank tops or anything.
now that is funny. i have a mental image of it now. lol. incredible hulk style :D
kentucky fan 12
12-03-08, 04:16 PM
I was interested in the coaches of the regular season teams. My grandson is moving up and I am interested in knowing who all the coaches are going to be. Looking at your post it seemed to be aimed at the all-stars, remember there are ten year olds in little league also, when that wasn't mentioned in your post it threw me off. My bad.
kentucky fan 12
12-03-08, 04:21 PM
GCPRO- If you are serious about the posters I didn't see any. If there was posters made they have to feel pretty dumb now.
BlueFan82
12-03-08, 06:33 PM
Kentucky fan 12---I think he may have been referring to moi. I do believe the topic was brought up about the possibility of last year's 12's making a return appearance to Williamsport. I also believe many of the posters felt it would be very difficult because of the lack of pitching. I think most of us believed they could get to Indianapolis, but it was the luck of the draw that we had to face Dover's stud twice. The only times he pitched at South Point, btw.
They did nothing when he wasn't on the mound. I really thought they could have beaten Mt. Vernon...but it's over and the kids have put it behind them.
My point was, is and will be that you have to have your own "stud" to beat that "stud". Not to diminish any young man's baseball abilities but to win tournament baseball at any level, a good team must be able to win that 2-0 ballgame. That game where scoring opportunities are very rare. From LL @ Williamsport to the MLB playoffs, winning those games played "close to the vest", if you will, determine the haves from the have nots. The team 2 seasons ago had two of those guys in Kyle and Tyler. Last year's team, IMO, had none. They had some very good players, just not those type of kids. Sometimes it comes down to more than just skill level.
I guess in my opinion to lose twice to Dover and then for Dover to not even win the thing, maybe you were further away than you all thought.
As you so eloquently stated, what's done is done and it is good the kids have moved on. Again, what time is that open workout.
kentucky fan 12
12-04-08, 09:42 AM
Open workouts were yesterday I believe.
Heck, my sons missed them again. Maybe next time.
BlueFan82
12-04-08, 02:44 PM
Again, GC---I think we're saying the same things in different ways. Maybe you're left brained and I'm right brained or vice-versa because I do not disagree with you on any of the points. Well, except maybe the overall assesment of the team. The 12's two years ago also won because they FACED Richards and Cotcamp all season long, and knew how to handle the 70MPH and the nasty C ball. Last year the kids saw nothing like that in game action, and were not able to break Dover's big kid (who also beat a very good North Canton team in the districts). I know you have much more experience than I at assessing talent, but I will continue to believe we had a team that could have gone to Indianapolis. We beat one of the best baseball programs in the country in South Lexington, 2-1. Things just didn't work out in South Point. It is what it is. Gotta love the Pizza Hut Lunch Bar.
I think you may be missing my point and it has nothing to do with my knowledge or lack thereof. I believe in the two games your team lost to Dover you gave up somewhere around 6 runs in each game. To beat that type of pitcher, you need to have the arms to keep you in a close game. Win a 2-1 type ballgame. I believe the 07 team won the regional in a 2-0 ballgame against a very good pitcher from Kentucky, if my memory is correct. When you give up 3 or more runs against a quality opponent and pitcher, your team is in trouble. It was not so much your lack of offense but rather your lack of stellar arms. All those home runs and multiple hit games go out the window against good pitching and good defense. A couple walks, an infield error and a "seeing eye" single and you are down 3 runs, it is like that at any level.
There is no doubt that last year's team had the ability to get to Indy, they were a nice group of kids. Put a kid like the big kid from EH on that team and they are very good. The 07 team probably didn't face a comparable group of players like theirs until they got to Williamsport, or regional semifinals at the minimum. Players win, plain and simple.
BlueFan82
12-04-08, 08:18 PM
I agree with everything you said. Again, must be a right brained left brained type of thing. There's a real truth to that. One of my accounting profs geared the first half of the lecture toward the left brain and the other toward the right brain. I pulled an A that semester and made the dean's list at the mighty MUH. All that without a baseball scholly or signing day! :angel:
By the way, the regional final in 2007 was 6-1 over New Albany, Indiana. They beat Indiana 2-0 earlier in the tournament.
They also beat Kentucky 13-2 in the semi.
You make my point by naming those scores, 1, 0 and 2 runs allowed. Superior pitching and defense on behalf of that team. It wasn't the offense at all, or shall I say a stud pitcher on the opposing mound. I think our little children are lulled into thinking they are pretty good against our group of kids at Leshners and then the not so competitive district tournament. I was not intending to bash any of your group, just is what it is.
outsideview
12-05-08, 01:10 PM
We seem to have gotten off track. I was inquiring as to who the coaches of the 11-12 year old regular season teams?
Fielders Choice
12-05-08, 01:42 PM
We seem to have gotten off track. I was inquiring as to who the coaches of the 11-12 year old regular season teams?
Red Sox- Coomer
Indians- Sams
White Sox- Robinson
Orioles- Sheffstall
Yankees- Combs
Reds- Robbins
Mets- Maus
Pirates- ?
Dodgers- ?
kentucky fan 12
12-05-08, 01:44 PM
Once again there are 10 year olds playing in the same league as the 11 and 12 year olds if they make little league after trying out. All-stars are for 11 and 12 year olds only, so when you said you wanted to know who the 11 and 12 year old coaches were it was easy to think you were referring to all-stars. Basically so you can understand that the regular season coaches are about the same exept two and they will be coaching 10,11 and 12 year olds. Then at the end of the season there will be a all-star team for 11 and 12 year olds only which there will be two coaches for that team. I bet you know this already and you are just:stirthepot:
outsideview
12-05-08, 02:55 PM
Once again there are 10 year olds playing in the same league as the 11 and 12 year olds if they make little league after trying out. All-stars are for 11 and 12 year olds only, so when you said you wanted to know who the 11 and 12 year old coaches were it was easy to think you were referring to all-stars. Basically so you can understand that the regular season coaches are about the same exept two and they will be coaching 10,11 and 12 year olds. Then at the end of the season there will be a all-star team for 11 and 12 year olds only which there will be two coaches for that team. I bet you know this already and you are just:stirthepot:
Not stirring anything, but thanks for the breakdown. I'll remember that next time.
Can Jim S. manage now that he is President of the league? I thought that was a rule, not that rules are ever followed over there.
outsideview
12-05-08, 02:58 PM
Red Sox- Coomer
Indians- Sams
White Sox- Robinson
Orioles- Sheffstall
Yankees- Combs
Reds- Robbins
Mets- Maus
Pirates- ?
Dodgers- ?
Thank You
Outsideview-don't take that the wrong way, we have a lot of WSLL posters that have trouble keeping track of their screen names. My guess is that KYfan12 was under the impression you may have been one of those. Welcome!
RED LEGS 80
12-05-08, 05:19 PM
Red Sox- Coomer
Indians- Sams
White Sox- Robinson
Orioles- Sheffstall
Yankees- Combs
Reds- Robbins
Mets- Maus
Pirates- ?
Dodgers- ?
I thought Maus was coaching a 13 year old team. Can he do both? I don't see how when travel ball plays 50 plus games. My oldest son played 75 games last year as a 13 year old.
kentucky fan 12
12-05-08, 07:19 PM
Outsideview-don't take that the wrong way, we have a lot of WSLL posters that have trouble keeping track of their screen names. My guess is that KYfan12 was under the impression you may have been one of those. Welcome!
I apologize if I'm wrong, GCPRO is right there are alot of people that post under multiple screen names. :shrug:
kentucky fan 12
12-05-08, 07:27 PM
I thought Maus was coaching a 13 year old team. Can he do both? I don't see how when travel ball plays 50 plus games. My oldest son played 75 games last year as a 13 year old.
Good question, and I thought we were supposed to start practicing in december, december is here and I haven't heard anything. Don't see the sense in it anyway but I heard it from the meeting at HHS. Don't really want my son to play for anybody else but Mr. Maus next year but we will see how it unfolds.
BlueFan82
12-05-08, 07:47 PM
Can Jim S. manage now that he is President of the league? I thought that was a rule, not that rules are ever followed over there.
From Little League International.....
"The president presides at league meetings, and assumes full responsibility for the operation of the local league. The president receives all mail, supplies and other communications from the Little League Headquarters. A president may manage, coach or umpire, provided he/she does not serve on the protest committee, nor serve as tournament team manager or coach."
Have to give it up to the Bluefan, thank you, I stand corrected once again. As for the 13 yr. old team, not aware of those December practices, must be one of those open deals, certainly you'll can relate.
To circumvent the many rumors, all will be good. Don't believe this group is gonna play 70 plus games, they actually might try to practice, not the indoor type. The WSLL Mets should be fine as well, have good people surrounding him, afterall, that is the mark of a good organization. All- Stars should be in capable hands with Fielders Choice and the City Champion.
kentucky fan 12
12-06-08, 11:27 AM
If it's a open deal that's why I haven't heard anything, now it all makes sense.
bambam30
12-10-08, 02:26 PM
Does anyone know when the WSLL draw down is this year?
Fielders Choice
12-11-08, 05:14 PM
Does anyone know when the WSLL draw down is this year?
March 14th at the FOP Lodge
Fielders Choice
12-12-08, 01:36 PM
When are sign ups for this season?
And how do the teams work? Do all the teams have to start from scratch and pick players, or some stay the same? What about new players?
Sign-ups are Feb. 7th, 14th and 21st.
Teams stay the same except for replacing last years 12 year olds. New players need to sign up and go through try outs.
Are you a new player? If so you will need to go through Coomers personal workout before tryouts. ( I'm kidding Coom.)
bambam30
12-12-08, 03:27 PM
Sign-ups are Feb. 7th, 14th and 21st.
Teams stay the same except for replacing last years 12 year olds. New players need to sign up and go through try outs.
Are you a new player? If so you will need to go through Coomers personal workout before tryouts. ( I'm kidding Coom.)
All Coomer needs to know is if he can throw a curve ball.
(Not kidding Coom.)
BlueFan82
12-12-08, 06:44 PM
Who gets to bat in that vaunted 6 hole for the Pirates this year?
:stirthepot:
Must be an inside joke-BF82.
Havent been on here in a while,this is good stuff:)
BlueFan82
12-14-08, 11:57 AM
Must be an inside joke-BF82.
It was.
Throwing Strikes
12-17-08, 11:51 AM
So who has the team to beat this year?? Is Coomer going to make it without Nichting?? Just a few questions....
So who has the team to beat this year?? Is Coomer going to make it without Nichting?? Just a few questions....
Reds,RedSox,WhiteSox in no particular order
kentucky fan 12
12-21-08, 03:11 PM
daddy j- What about the Indians? I am going with the pirates this year.
Throwing Strikes
12-22-08, 06:49 PM
daddy j- What about the Indians? I am going with the pirates this year.
Thanks..I'm glad someone thinks we are in the mix...
bambam30
12-23-08, 12:02 PM
Thanks..I'm glad someone thinks we are in the mix...
I don't think he said we were in the mix. He just asked Daddy J about the Indians. I think we'll be in the mix.
I don't think he said we were in the mix. He just asked Daddy J about the Indians. I think we'll be in the mix.
indians should be okay if there pitching holds up.
Throwing Strikes
12-23-08, 11:36 PM
indians should be okay if there pitching holds up.
I think they have more pitching than they have had in the last couple years and with that I mean depth. They have four 12's that all should throw alot of innings this year. And could very possibly have the biggest arm in the league with Heckman kid. He was throwing gas in fall ball.
YouWishYouKnew11
12-24-08, 04:20 PM
I think they have more pitching than they have had in the last couple years and with that I mean depth. They have four 12's that all should throw alot of innings this year. And could very possibly have the biggest arm in the league with Heckman kid. He was throwing gas in fall ball.
good thing you added the depth part in there. lol. i was about to disagree until i read that. the last couple years your mound has had some pretty good pitchers on it.
BlueFan82
12-27-08, 12:43 AM
I think they have more pitching than they have had in the last couple years and with that I mean depth. They have four 12's that all should throw alot of innings this year. And could very possibly have the biggest arm in the league with Heckman kid. He was throwing gas in fall ball.
That Heckman kid has all the tools to be the top player in the league. I've been impressed since he was 10....Indians will compete again.
The Reds should be in the mix to defend their crown.
The Red Sox will be in the mix once again....With a team full of All-Stars, one of the best players in the league, and one of the top minor leaguers coming over for a coach's pick.
A dark horse could be the Yankees and the Mets.
But the team I pick to win it all this year......(drum roll)
The White Sox...They lost a great arm and bat in Zach Bane, but they are loaded with the Snyder kid and the Robinson boys.
Can't wait to read the updates on here and catch a game or two this summer.
kentucky fan 12
12-28-08, 11:39 PM
Don't see the yankees even in the top 5 sorry, but I have to agree with the whitesox being in the mix. But I have to go with the reds number 1 and the redsox number 2. The Indians top pitching prospects will have to throw strikes, from what I've seen they had trouble in fall ball. I'm sure batman and robin will have it all figured out by time season starts.
red sox the team to beat
reds white sox indians and mets all should be very good
dodgers yankees orioles and pirates will have to prove themselves
now we might not have enough players to keep all 9 teams (we won't know till sign ups) but if we drop a team and those kids go back into the draft, that could help out a team or 2
RED LEGS 80
01-05-09, 12:38 AM
Why are the redsox the team to beat? They have only one proven pitcher from last year. I know they will hit very well. Don't see them beating the reds this year, not to mention they pick last i believe in the draft, by then all the top kids coming up will be done picked.
The Red Sox have finished first, second and first in the league the past 3 years. So have picked last or near last in each of those years, yet they continue to succeed, cannot argue with that kind of success.
The Reds have probably the best returning pitcher but will miss N. Moore greatly, he was fantastic last season.
Should be an interesting year, obviously the Dodgers will now be in the mix. Still some big unknowns, it always nice to see how kids mature and their abilities evolve.
Still don't understand the thought behind adding a team in 08 only to drop a team in 09. It seems they have trouble finding managers as it is, so never quite understood it, but again none of my business.
Good luck to all.
RED LEGS 80
01-05-09, 11:33 AM
You may be right, i think they may have the only left hander that will be pitching that i can think of. Are there any good pitchers or players coming up this year? I didn't get to see hardly any minor league games last year.
i think b. couch will pitch quite a bit for the red sox and he is a lefty. not impressed with the reds lefty for what its worth. red sox will have 3 good arms, have to agree with others assessment of the indians staff, but j. heckman could be lights out. I thought the indians had the best talent in the league last year, though the orioles were also plenty talented. J. morrison will be good for the dodgers, i see b. richards helping the reds on the mound. the white sox, with the coach's sons will for sure be in the mix. not sure of any of the kids moving up but there is always plenty of good players.
kentucky fan 12
01-05-09, 09:00 PM
The Red Sox should be pretty good, they will hit and if they get some pitching from the 11 year olds they could be the team to beat. As for some minor players coming up there are a few that will be good and gone by time the Red Sox pick this year. They picked towards the bottom last year and picked up some good players don't see why this year wouldn't be any different. All the 10 year olds that move up this year will need some work but have alot of potential for their 11 and 12 year old seasons.
Throwing Strikes
01-11-09, 09:36 AM
who coaches the Red Sox?
Kenny Coomer.....
kentucky fan 12
01-16-09, 12:09 AM
Who's that?
gottaluvtheblue
01-16-09, 12:24 PM
I think he may be the new guy that took over the Red Sox when Nichting
took the Dodgers.
kentucky fan 12
01-17-09, 12:01 AM
Must be.
vBulletin® v3.6.4, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.