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basesloaded
11-12-08, 10:32 AM
In no particular order I think these will be the top 10 D1 teams in Cincy. What is yours?
Oak Hills
West
Milford
Glen Este
Moeller
St.X
East
Hamilton
Anderson
Mason
In no particular order I think these will be the top 10 D1 teams in Cincy. What is yours?
Oak Hills
West
Milford
Glen Este
Moeller
St.X
East
Hamilton
Anderson
Mason
No Elder or LaSalle? Interesting...
basesloaded
11-12-08, 11:37 AM
No Elder or LaSalle? Interesting...
I was waiting for that. I would have had Lasalle in there if they had Matt Brown....they have some good returning players (especially Lehman), I just don't know who will pitch for them. Brown would have been their number 1 not to mention the offense they lose with him gone.
Elder lost a ton on the mound....not much experience coming back. It will be a down year in the GCL. X lost everything except Hollstegge and Basil and Moeller lost everyone except for Cisper and sunderman.
I was waiting for that. I would have had Lasalle in there if they had Matt Brown....they have some good returning players (especially Lehman), I just don't know who will pitch for them. Brown would have been their number 1 not to mention the offense they lose with him gone.
Elder lost a ton on the mound....not much experience coming back. It will be a down year in the GCL. X lost everything except Hollstegge and Basil and Moeller lost everyone except for Cisper and sunderman.
I would not count Elder out of a top 10 discussion. I actually think the 2008 year was a down year for the Panthers. Other than Nasty ( who because of injury did not live up to the lofty expectations given him after his sophomore year) I think the 2008 year was not up to normal Elder expectations. Look for them to rebound nicely.
What happened to Matt Brown at La Salle? I agree with not knowing who is going to pitch for them this year.
basesloaded
11-12-08, 11:51 AM
I would not count Elder out of a top 10 discussion. I actually think the 2008 year was a down year for the Panthers. Other than Nasty ( who because of injury did not live up to the lofty expectations given him after his sophomore year) I think the 2008 year was not up to normal Elder expectations. Look for them to rebound nicely.
What happened to Matt Brown at La Salle? I agree with not knowing who is going to pitch for them this year.
You may be right...elder could be top 10, but they certainly have a lot of innings to replace in Nastold and Ernst.
From what I understand, Brown will be playing at Finneytown.
gclbaseball1
11-12-08, 04:10 PM
Oak Hills
Moeller
LaSalle
Glen Este
Hamilton
Lakota East
Lakota West
Milford
Mason
Anderson
rampanther
11-12-08, 11:51 PM
In no particular order I think these will be the top 10 D1 teams in Cincy. What is yours?
Oak Hills
West
Milford
Glen Este
Moeller
St.X
East
Hamilton
Anderson
Mason
Badin may be DII but they are better than most of these teams.
basesloaded
11-13-08, 07:31 AM
Badin may be DII but they are better than most of these teams.
Badin will be very tough with Mckinney on the mound, no question qbout it...BUT, 6 or 7 of those 10 teams I listed have #1's that would lock up in a good old pitchers duel with Mckinney and have 2's and 3's better then Badin. These D1 teams consistantly face better pitching day in and day out. Badin appears to beat up on the weak pitching of the GCL North and Central and get shut down when they face good pitching. Now, could they beat some of those top 10 D1 teams....sure.....but to say they are better than MOST of the teams on that list is ridiculous.
in no order
ST.X
ELDER
MOELLER
HAMILTON
WEST
EAST
FAIRFIELD
OAK HILLS
PRINCETON
GLEN ESTE
Both X and Moe lose ALOT!
West and East lose their leaders in Cattani and Brennaman (sp)
Princeton Loses most of their guys (and Ware?)
Elder loses some Pitching....
With all that being said, top 10 in no particular order,IMO:
West (still have a very good team)
Colerain (I think they return both of their good pitchers?)
Milford
Glen Este
Anderson
Oak Hills
Hamilton
Moeller
Elder
Xslugger19
11-13-08, 04:18 PM
Both X and Moe lose ALOT!
West and East lose their leaders in Cattani and Brennaman (sp)
Princeton Loses most of their guys (and Ware?)
Elder loses some Pitching....
With all that being said, top 10 in no particular order,IMO:
West (still have a very good team)
Colerain (I think they return both of their good pitchers?)
Milford
Glen Este
Anderson
Oak Hills
Hamilton
Moeller
Elder
no colerain lost Henn. They only have Hundley. But i heard he had arm surgery, hopefully he gets back to 100% before the season starts.
Both X and Moe lose ALOT!
West and East lose their leaders in Cattani and Brennaman (sp)
Princeton Loses most of their guys (and Ware?)
Elder loses some Pitching....
With all that being said, top 10 in no particular order,IMO:
West (still have a very good team)
Colerain (I think they return both of their good pitchers?)
Milford
Glen Este
Anderson
Oak Hills
Hamilton
Moeller
Elder
Hundley returns for Colerain pitching but Henn is at Wright St. and Vice is at Xavier.
Hundley returns for Colerain pitching but Henn is at Wright St. and Vice is at Xavier.
Then I'm not sure who should fill that spot...either Mason or East but I don't know enough about their Senior classes....maybe Fairfield?
rampanther
11-13-08, 11:50 PM
Badin will be very tough with Mckinney on the mound, no question qbout it...BUT, 6 or 7 of those 10 teams I listed have #1's that would lock up in a good old pitchers duel with Mckinney and have 2's and 3's better then Badin. These D1 teams consistantly face better pitching day in and day out. Badin appears to beat up on the weak pitching of the GCL North and Central and get shut down when they face good pitching. Now, could they beat some of those top 10 D1 teams....sure.....but to say they are better than MOST of the teams on that list is ridiculous.
Over the past few years Lakota West, Moeller, and Elder have been the class of SW Ohio, no doubt. Badin would beat the remainder at least as often as not.
Over the past few years Lakota West, Moeller, and Elder have been the class of SW Ohio, no doubt. Badin would beat the remainder at least as often as not.
So.....I'm not sure what this post is trying to say (at least as often as not:shrug: )? What are your top 10? You have yet to list one...other than saying that Badin will beat most of them (and still not listing why). We can tell you think that Badin will be good, but do you know about other teams of Cincinnati? As of now, I don't get the impression that you do, so you just another homer... please explain why Badin wins over these teams.
(IMO top 10 cincinnati)
West
Milford
Glen Este
Anderson
Oak Hills
Hamilton
Moeller
Elder
Mason
East
rampanther
11-14-08, 04:41 PM
Lakota West - until someone around here beats them
Moeller
Elder
Mason
Milford
Badin
Princeton
St X
Anderson
Turpin
gclbaseball1
11-14-08, 05:28 PM
Lakota West - until someone around here beats them
Moeller
Elder
Mason
Milford
Badin
Princeton
St X
Anderson
Turpin
Badin is not D1. They are DIII
Lakota West - until someone around here beats them
Moeller
Elder
Mason
Milford
Badin
Princeton
St X
Anderson
Turpin
Ok heres why I'm a little bit iffy on your teams...
1. Badin is D II (this is a D I forum, and i expected for you to do this).
2. There is no Oak Hills team, that returns some VERY good players (Proctor and Malloy Off the top of my head)
3. St. X loses 11 players...a lot of key contributers (Lamping, Issler, Rumpke, Ollier just off the top of my head)
4. Turpin Loses 12 guys, and return a young team of only 2 seniors and a lot of underclassmen.
5. Princeton loses 8 guys, if not 9 (not sure if Ware will be playing for them this year) and two of those were D I athletes (maybe three?)
6. Moeller loses 14 guys, many of whom were DI players
While I'm sure Moeller, X and GCL company will do fine this year, losing that many players of that caliber and longevity on the team will hurt this year. Thats lost leaders, expierence and talent. They do have a deep pool to choose from though so shouldnt hurt too bad.
I really think that this years class is just as strong as last years, but the jr class behind it isnt nearly as strong so it should be an overall less competitive year in cincinnati. Still some good baseball out there!
Still have yet to see why Badin is better than these mentioned teams though? :shrug:
gclbaseball1
11-14-08, 06:43 PM
Badin is D 3!!!
rampanther
11-14-08, 08:59 PM
Ok heres why I'm a little bit iffy on your teams...
1. Badin is D II (this is a D I forum, and i expected for you to do this).
2. There is no Oak Hills team, that returns some VERY good players (Proctor and Malloy Off the top of my head)
3. St. X loses 11 players...a lot of key contributers (Lamping, Issler, Rumpke, Ollier just off the top of my head)
4. Turpin Loses 12 guys, and return a young team of only 2 seniors and a lot of underclassmen.
5. Princeton loses 8 guys, if not 9 (not sure if Ware will be playing for them this year) and two of those were D I athletes (maybe three?)
6. Moeller loses 14 guys, many of whom were DI players
While I'm sure Moeller, X and GCL company will do fine this year, losing that many players of that caliber and longevity on the team will hurt this year. Thats lost leaders, expierence and talent. They do have a deep pool to choose from though so shouldnt hurt too bad.
I really think that this years class is just as strong as last years, but the jr class behind it isnt nearly as strong so it should be an overall less competitive year in cincinnati. Still some good baseball out there!
Still have yet to see why Badin is better than these mentioned teams though? :shrug:
I can't count the number of years that I have heard that Moeller graduated too many good players. When you have so many good players, you graduate alot of good players. Just watch, they will be very good. That's what the great programs do. West also lost alot but their program is getting to the state as Moeller's
Turpin lost alot but I believe they have many good young players in the program. They are in an easier league and that will help them as they mature.
I may be overestimating Princeton. They will need some pitching but will have athletes.
Badin has most of their team back. They lose their middle infielders but get one back from injury who would have started over the good infielders they lost.
St X may have a down year but with 200 baseball players that will come out, their down year still gets them into the top 10.
In no order
West
Oak Hills
East
Glen Este
Anderson
Milford
Moeller
Elder
X
Hamilton
baseball2011
11-15-08, 03:45 PM
IMO top ten:
west
Oak Hills
moeller
milford
Lasalle
Mason
anderson
Colraine
Elder
Hamilton
Turpin will not have a chance... Losing a lot of their starters from last year,, and alot of their returning seriors played JV last year as juniors
I can't count the number of years that I have heard that Moeller graduated too many good players. When you have so many good players, you graduate alot of good players. Just watch, they will be very good. That's what the great programs do. West also lost alot but their program is getting to the state as Moeller's
Turpin lost alot but I believe they have many good young players in the program. They are in an easier league and that will help them as they mature.
I may be overestimating Princeton. They will need some pitching but will have athletes.
Badin has most of their team back. They lose their middle infielders but get one back from injury who would have started over the good infielders they lost.
St X may have a down year but with 200 baseball players that will come out, their down year still gets them into the top 10.
While I'm not arguing that Moeller replaces a lot of good players year in and out...this is the second year in a row that they graduate several DI players. This will be a down year for them, and I dont expect them to do as well as in the past few years. Same goes for X.
I'm not sure how you can also say that West is becoming like these schools? Yes they have had two good years in a row (well one and a half very good, they went on an extremely strong run to win the championship two years ago and returned several of their players for last years great team), but they dont have 1200 + boys to choose from like the GCL south teams.
It all comes down to pitching, and the teams with the best returning pitchers are going to be in the top 10 when the season ends.
Badin is DII baseball if i am correct...? Still havnt heard how they would beat most of the teams though? But thanks for your insight for some of the teams.
Cincinnati will not be as strong as it was last year, where the 08 and 09 classes are very good. This year, the 09 class is still very good, but arent accompanied with a good 10 class. This should prove for less good top 10 teams, but still should leave a few much better than the others.
IMO top ten:
west
Oak Hills
moeller
milford
Lasalle
Mason
anderson
Colraine
Elder
Hamilton
Turpin will not have a chance... Losing a lot of their starters from last year,, and alot of their returning seriors played JV last year as juniors
While Turpin loses a lot of seniors, they are still in a very weak confrence, and return a good group of young players who played last year. I dont think they will do as well in the playoffs this year, but they should do well in confrence.
AnUnbiasedOpinion
11-15-08, 09:53 PM
...I'm not sure how you can also say that West is becoming like these schools? Yes they have had two good years in a row (well one and a half very good, they went on an extremely strong run to win the championship two years ago and returned several of their players for last years great team), but they dont have 1200 + boys to choose from like the GCL south teams. ...
Do you realize that West is much bigger than LaSalle, Elder, and Moeller? And they have been growing tremendously. I wouldn't be surprised if they catch X in a few years.
West should have the pitching this year with Smith and Beaver returning after already having two outstanding seasons on the mound.
X and Elder will have below average years for them. They weren't very good last year. Elder lost a lot of pitching. X lost a lot of position players and all their pitching besides Hollstegge. Moeller lost more than anyone but will simply reload. Their JV pitchers could've started anywhere in the state but were behing too many seniors. LaSalle returns a lot of experienced pitchers. They will be tough.
bonafideplayer
11-15-08, 11:12 PM
How is mckinneys shoulder, he going to be ok this year?? Badin not as good a team without him
gclbaseball1
11-15-08, 11:53 PM
How is mckinneys shoulder, he going to be ok this year?? Badin not as good a team without him
No one knows for sure yet.
Sportsopinion
11-16-08, 12:26 PM
IMO top ten:
west
Oak Hills
moeller
milford
Lasalle
Mason
anderson
Colraine
Elder
Hamilton
Turpin will not have a chance... Losing a lot of their starters from last year,, and alot of their returning seriors played JV last year as juniors
so how can you leave Glen Este out of the top 10 in cincinnati...they beat 5 of these 10 teams you have listed and lost to 2 of them by 1 run and they bring back a strong junior class from last year
baseball2011
11-16-08, 07:53 PM
all of my listed teams have great talent in the senior and junior classes, and milford has a few stud sophomores
basesloaded
11-16-08, 09:23 PM
i think what sportsopinion meant to say is Glen Este brings back a strong senior class this year. There are 4 seniors who have been a varsity starter since they were sophomores. They have there entire infield back and 3 of their top 4 pitchers along with the number 2-5 hitters in the batting order. Senior catcher Gerber will probably bat leadoff and he was probably the hottest hitter on the team the last few weeks of last season. Sophomore Matt Jones had a great year as a freshman before he got hurt and will be another force in the lineup. All of this coming back for a team that was 20-7 last year....I dont think you can talk about top 10 without them being in it.
baseball2011
11-19-08, 10:21 PM
i saw a few games of theres and wasn't entirely impressed, thats why i based my decision like this. if the thread was top 15 Glen Este would deffinatley be in it. i was unnaware of how many people are returning :shrug:
ballplayer10
11-21-08, 06:18 PM
turpin will not be that good this year........take them outta ur top
i saw a few games of theres and wasn't entirely impressed, thats why i based my decision like this. if the thread was top 15 Glen Este would deffinatley be in it. i was unnaware of how many people are returning :shrug:
looking at your screen name you must be in class of 2011 meaning that you were a freshman last year so how much do you really know about VARSITY baseball in cincy? obviously not much if you think there are more than 10 d1 teams better than glen este. anyone who is familiar with varsity baseball knows what they have coming back and they will be very solid. milford and anderson return several top players also and will be very good. favc buckeye will be another dogfight.
RedskinPride15
11-24-08, 08:45 AM
While Turpin loses a lot of seniors, they are still in a very weak confrence, and return a good group of young players who played last year. I dont think they will do as well in the playoffs this year, but they should do well in confrence.
Who else is there for Turpin Ingram, Schmidt, Carney, Rosell, last time i checked none of those guys could hit run or throw! :confused: :confused: Ingram thinks he is the S--- What? he played for midland when he was 12 as far as im concerned midland (the real midland) is 16-18. He still wears those yellow worn out midalnd shirts. you guys dont stand a chance this year winning maybe, maybe, 12-15 games coming in second behind Kings.
RedskinPride15
11-24-08, 08:48 AM
This is possibly the top ten in no order
Oak Hills
La salle
Anderson
Glen Este
X
Elder
West
East
Moeller
Milford (only B/C i know who is there and know what talent they possibly have)
Who else is there for Turpin Ingram, Schmidt, Carney, Rosell, last time i checked none of those guys could hit run or throw! :confused: :confused: Ingram thinks he is the S--- What? he played for midland when he was 12 as far as im concerned midland (the real midland) is 16-18. He still wears those yellow worn out midalnd shirts. you guys dont stand a chance this year winning maybe, maybe, 12-15 games coming in second behind Kings.
The fact that you bring up these guys, and leave out even mentioning Martin who had a phenonminal freshmen year pitching last year leaves me to beleive that you don't know much about what your talking about. I'm sure you know these kids on a personal level (and from your language dont care for them too much). I also take it from your name and hatred of Turpin that you come from anderson; just because you are rivals doesn't mean you cant respect them. Face it, they play in a weak confrence, and have some young guys returning...while i doubt they will be one of the best teams in the area, there is no reason to beleive they won't be competitive.
gclbaseball1
11-25-08, 03:39 PM
Turpin will be competitive with pitchers Eric Martin and Joe Cronin but Anderson is a lot better this year.
Turpin will be competitive with pitchers Eric Martin and Joe Cronin but Anderson is a lot better this year.
Never argued that, but Anderson does play in a lot tougher division (especially this year with GE, and Milford, and Harrison does have a few pitchers with a little help could upset some teams...and don't forget loveland and how they seem to be competitive everyyear dispite less talent). Like i said, Turpin will do well in their confrence, but I highly doubt they will do well in the playoffs.
mcnbaseball
11-26-08, 12:39 AM
I think GE will win the league this year but both Anderson and GE are very good should be fun to watch them play.
RedskinPride15
11-29-08, 05:50 PM
GE is good on the pitching lvl no doubt, personally know marksburry and fuller along with gerber, but IMO i dont see much depth in there field and hitting who is there for them not familar with anyone else form Este
RedskinPride15
11-29-08, 05:53 PM
IMO---- Andersons schedule is ten time tougher than you believe lets see, this following 09 season it will be
St. X
moe
west
east
c-rain
La Salle
elder (possibly)
Glen este
Milford ( with nestroff and mcfarland)
Harrison
Hamilton (who i dont see as a threat)
Loveland (who i also dont see as anythreat what so ever to the favc title)
gclbaseball1
11-29-08, 06:09 PM
IMO---- Andersons schedule is ten time tougher than you believe lets see, this following 09 season it will be
St. X
moe
west
east
c-rain
La Salle
elder (possibly)
Glen este
Milford ( with nestroff and mcfarland)
Harrison
Hamilton (who i dont see as a threat)
Loveland (who i also dont see as anythreat what so ever to the favc title)
I would add Turpin and McNick. Those are usually good games. Didn't McNick beat Anderson pretty soundly last year to?
RedskinPride15
11-29-08, 09:02 PM
ya they did but it wasnt as sound as everyone thinks we had lost are shortstop and 4 of are best hitters were injured that game and combined went i think like 1-10 that game, mcnick would include that list however i dont think turpin will be a game.
IMO---- Andersons schedule is ten time tougher than you believe lets see, this following 09 season it will be
St. X
moe
west
east
c-rain
La Salle
elder (possibly)
Glen este
Milford ( with nestroff and mcfarland)
Harrison
Hamilton (who i dont see as a threat)
Loveland (who i also dont see as anythreat what so ever to the favc title)
never said their schedule was soft?
Sportsopinion
12-04-08, 10:33 PM
GE is good on the pitching lvl no doubt, personally know marksburry and fuller along with gerber, but IMO i dont see much depth in there field and hitting who is there for them not familar with anyone else form Este
returning starters are
Greg Jones-Can hit for Power
Andrew Gerber-very fast and good bat
Brandon Fuller-6'4'' will be a top hitter in the favc this year
Tyler Godfrey-Has a good stick can hit for power
Matt Jones-returning freshman varsity player who can hit
Nate Bromagen-can rope the ball and very solid at short
Andy King-should do well this year
Matt Marksbury-yes he is not just a pitcher and he hit very well in summerball this year
watch out for gleneste this year they will definetley be a top 10 team in the city coming from a 20-7 season last year
returning starters are
Greg Jones-Can hit for Power
Andrew Gerber-very fast and good bat
Brandon Fuller-6'4'' will be a top hitter in the favc this year
Tyler Godfrey-Has a good stick can hit for power
Matt Jones-returning freshman varsity player who can hit
Nate Bromagen-can rope the ball and very solid at short
Andy King-should do well this year
Matt Marksbury-yes he is not just a pitcher and he hit very well in summerball this year
watch out for gleneste this year they will definetley be a top 10 team in the city coming from a 20-7 season last year
King is the only player that did not start out of those who were named (he did however play some, and hit the game winning homer against anderson), but he would be an asset and top player on many of the other teams around the area.
The only problem with GE is they are senior loaded, with a pretty weak Jr. class unlike last year that had an even mixture of both. However, they do have a pretty good sophmore baseball class which after the initial learning curve could help.
T-penn17
12-11-08, 01:57 PM
Hamilton is definately top ten.. few good seniors and couple of juniors who started as sophomores. Got a transfer from ross =]. they could make some noise.
bpdawg32
12-11-08, 02:23 PM
the only statement that I can stand bye is that alot of the top teams mentioned have some very good players that have continually dominated at every age level so look for them to do the same as seniors.........
my personal pick for D1 Top 5
St. X
Oak Hills
Harrison
Hamilton
Colerain
D2 and Rest
Badin
Mcnicholas
CHCA
Madison
on limb here but look for big things out of 2nd year coach and senior loaded New Miami
We have a BPDawg siting. My goodness.
TheKid08
12-12-08, 09:01 AM
the only statement that I can stand bye is that alot of the top teams mentioned have some very good players that have continually dominated at every age level so look for them to do the same as seniors.........
my personal pick for D1 Top 5
St. X
Oak Hills
Harrison
Hamilton
Colerain
D2 and Rest
Badin
Mcnicholas
CHCA
Madison
on limb here but look for big things out of 2nd year coach and senior loaded New Miami
harrison hamilton and colerain aint worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin it on
YouWishYouKnew11
12-14-08, 05:08 PM
harrison hamilton and colerain aint worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin it on
the second you count out coach bowling and his squad is the second they beat you. i dont care if theyre young, inexperienced, whatever you wanna call them, they ALWAYS find a way to win. for you to write them off with the tradition of winning they have is a mistake. watch an see, they may not win the GMC, but will definitely be in contention at the end.
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