SWBL Southwestern Div. Predicitions for 2009

[swbl478]

Here are some of my thoughts for 2009.

1. Valley View- Returns everyone but Brian Blasik, last years POY. This is a big loss. I really thought he was the difference maker on that team. Harshberger is the Ace on that staff I believe. They still are the favorite in my opinion.

2. Eaton - They just seem to reload. Still have Chase Hood, who I think is the best player in the league, and Jesse French as their number one. Will they have enough pitching?

3. Franklin- Return a nice group of seniors with Saporito and Bray leading the way. If Blackford returns to form they could win the whole thing.

4. Bellbrook- Loss of Stratis hurts but they return a young team led by Sr. Seger, Jr.’s Thacker & Morgan with Soph. Demko. Pitching will be strength if Thacker can return to the mound. May surprise.

5. Oakwood- Loss of 3 college players in Carpenter, Hardy and Parrish really hurt. They also lost their coach in the off season. Too many question marks to put them any higher in my opinion.

6 & 7 Brookville and Milton Union. I don’t know much about these teams except they didn’t win many games last year. Any input is appreciated.

I would love to hear about some players moving up from JV that I haven’t heard about or current Varsity players that I missed. Lets keep this as positive as possible.

[baseball03]

franklin has junior Jordan pergrem back on varsity this year very strong pitcher infielder big write up in paper with Chicago cubs scout with him and blackford they will be very strong in pitching

[swbl478]

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[Iluvbaseball]

swbl478,

Let me start by saying that I really agree with your assessment of the league. I will try to add a few things to the discussion. Last year I watched most of Eaton's games, close to half of Valley View's, and a few others when I was able to make it to another game.

VV and Eaton will be the class of the league this year. Franklin will be able to surprise and could be the only other team in the league that could be there in the end. Bellbrook has some interesting talent and should be the best of the rest and capable of upsetting any of the three front runner on any given night. Oakwood, Brookville and Milton should round out the remaining teams and really shouldn't be near the top at the end. Brookville does have a decent pitcher, can't remember his name, that is capable of throwing a gem anytime.

I'll take VV over Eaton and Franklin in a close race.

Eaton - They have lost their top three hitters in the line-up and their #1 pitcher. However, French is a very similar pitcher and Chase Hood was their best hitter. Jake Hood will be another solid bat in the line-up and the replacements will be good solid baseball players. I bet we will be talking about several of their younger players as the season progresses.

VV - They lose only the one player you mentioned (Blasik). I think they can replace him by everyone just picking it up just a little. Eaton fans will be glad to see him gone because he willed his team to win some big games (I can't seem to forget the game he had at Eaton last year). They have a solid offense who will be lead by Josh Allen. Their #2 hitter, Cottingham??, was a surprise getting tons of big hits. Their pitching will determine how successful they eventually are with Harshberger and Rash. Rash was more of a dominate pitcher as a sophomore and needs to work to regain that form for them to have any chance of advancing beyond the league.

Franklin - This team has all the elements to be a great one. They have two pretty good pitchers (Blackford and Peegram??). Blackford was more effective in the beginning of the year. I heard on several ocasions that the other kid might be even better. Two good pitchers can take you a long way. Bray and Saporito will lead the offense. Saporito hit some bombs last year (and I mean BOMBS).

Bellbrook - Thacker, Seger and Morgan will lead the team. I agree that pitching is their strength. Their defense is weak and hurt them several times last year. Thacker keeps improving as a hitter and should provide some valuable innings from the mound. I was impressed with Morgan when I saw him pitch last year.

Oakwood - Lost too much from last years team to be a serious contender.

Brookville - One pitcher can't pitch every game.

Milton-Union - They were awful last year and will need a ton of help to just compete.

[swbl478]

Iluvbaseball,

Who do you think moves up for Eaton? I am pretty sure they lost their whole middle infield and centerfielder. Do they have replacements for them?

Oakwood will have Philo(sp) back and Greg Ambrose up from JV to do some of their pitching I believe. They are no replacements for their graduated seniors.

Is it possible VV can repeat with out Blasic? You seem to know more than I about VV, but I really thought he was the straw that stirred the drink. I think it will be more difficult for them this year without him. I guess they only bring up 1 kid from JV to replace him. Any idea who it might be? Who is thier new SS?

I didn't see many JV games last year so I'm interested in what might be coming up this year.

[Iluvbaseball]

swbl478,

I didn't really see any JV games so it is tough for me to project.

I believe Eaton will replace the seniors with some of the players that were already on the varsity. French already played center when Norton pitched. Positions may rotate a bit to account for the loss. Jordan Duda?? and other younger players will be asked to do more. The youngsters are very athletic!!

VV can survive without Blasik. I would think they will move John Day in from the outfield to fill the void at SS. I then think they will move a young player to the outfield. Not sure about any JV players here as well. Since Blasik was the only Senior and didn't pitch they should be able to replace him and make a run. I really think the key will be their pitching. Can Rash?? step up and be a dominate pitcher??

[ftballdad10]

VV - Raisch, I heard is going to have to have surgery, so he might not even play baseball, They will be O.K. with Harshbarger, Jones, leading the staff. I also think they will be O.K. without Blasik, Day has to move back into the infield. Agreed Blasik stirred the drink but shouldn't seniors do that. This years team will be loaded with seniors. The View also has a couple of young players that could see Varsity action this year.

Eaton - They are always scary, because of the way they are coached to play the game. French will be their ACE but is hittable.

Franklin - Has alot of talent Saporito, Bray, Martin, Blackford (if he is healthy)

Rest of league will be weak! do like Bellbrooks ,Thacker.

[swbl478]

There is alot of good information here. I'm sorry to hear about Raisch. I think I've seen him pitch since he was 10 years old.

ftballdad made a great point. Eaton has GREAT coaching in my opinion. They always have a good squad.

I am not familiar with Jones of VV. How did he do last year? I don't think I have ever seen him pitch. Was Harshbarger their #1 guy last year?

On Blasik and VV, he always seemed to get the big hits for them. I assume Blue Day will fill his position in the lineup.

One of you made a point about Bellbrooks defense. I think it will be much improved this year. It was much better later in the year, after some guys got situated, and was very good when they made their tournament run. I don't think they made an error in 4 games.

[Iluvbaseball]

What happened to Raisch?? Was it football related?? I hope he doesn't miss the entire baseball season.

Jones would be defined as a crafty lefty. He pitched alot last year and probably had the lowest ERA on the team. Harshberger got the ball during most of the big games.

Footballdad - You make it seem replacing Blasik will be easy. It won't be easy he was a four year starter at short. Blue hit 5th last year so he won't be replacing him. The returners just need to each pick it up a little. Oh and by the way, some seniors don't stir the drink they spike the punch.

swbl478 - I saw Bellbrook several times and they were pretty bad defensively. I am glad to hear they may have corrected the problem at the end. That alone will make them somewhat stronger.

[4theluvofthegame07]

swbl478,

Let me start by saying that I really agree with your assessment of the league. I will try to add a few things to the discussion. Last year I watched most of Eaton's games, close to half of Valley View's, and a few others when I was able to make it to another game.

VV and Eaton will be the class of the league this year. Franklin will be able to surprise and could be the only other team in the league that could be there in the end. Bellbrook has some interesting talent and should be the best of the rest and capable of upsetting any of the three front runner on any given night. Oakwood, Brookville and Milton should round out the remaining teams and really shouldn't be near the top at the end. Brookville does have a decent pitcher, can't remember his name, that is capable of throwing a gem anytime.

I'll take VV over Eaton and Franklin in a close race.

Eaton - They have lost their top three hitters in the line-up and their #1 pitcher. However, French is a very similar pitcher and Chase Hood was their best hitter. Jake Hood will be another solid bat in the line-up and the replacements will be good solid baseball players. I bet we will be talking about several of their younger players as the season progresses.

VV - They lose only the one player you mentioned (Blasik). I think they can replace him by everyone just picking it up just a little. Eaton fans will be glad to see him gone because he willed his team to win some big games (I can't seem to forget the game he had at Eaton last year). They have a solid offense who will be lead by Josh Allen. Their #2 hitter, Cottingham??, was a surprise getting tons of big hits. Their pitching will determine how successful they eventually are with Harshberger and Rash. Rash was more of a dominate pitcher as a sophomore and needs to work to regain that form for them to have any chance of advancing beyond the league.

Franklin - This team has all the elements to be a great one. They have two pretty good pitchers (Blackford and Peegram??). Blackford was more effective in the beginning of the year. I heard on several ocasions that the other kid might be even better. Two good pitchers can take you a long way. Bray and Saporito will lead the offense. Saporito hit some bombs last year (and I mean BOMBS).

Bellbrook - Thacker, Seger and Morgan will lead the team. I agree that pitching is their strength. Their defense is weak and hurt them several times last year. Thacker keeps improving as a hitter and should provide some valuable innings from the mound. I was impressed with Morgan when I saw him pitch last year.

Oakwood - Lost too much from last years team to be a serious contender.

Brookville - One pitcher can't pitch every game.

Milton-Union - They were awful last year and will need a ton of help to just compete.

As far as Franklin goes the strength of the pitching staff is Blackford,Martin, and Bray. Pergram is good but not at the level of the 3 seniors. On any given day Blackford and Martin can be as good as anybody around, and Bray has proven to be a very good relief/closer. The big question mark for Franklin is who steps up and plays outfield(only one returning starter) and at catcher.
The race should come down to VV,Eaton and Franklin.

[cats22]

Franklin-may be in trouble in the outfield there only returning starter who played left field tore his knee up pretty bad against Oakwood in week 10. Franklin is very deep in pitching pergrem is the best they got i believe you all will see hes a good one if blackford gets back to the way he was his sophmore year then franklin will win the league. Have 2 other good pitchers in dustin martin and macklin bray. Franklin also has the most dangerous hitter in the league in Chris Saporito the kid drops bombs they need to move him to catcher though. If they sure up the catching position they could make a long run when it comes playoff time. Outfield and catching are their weaknesses Losing right fielder Zak young hurts really bad the kid was an amazing outfielder.

Eaton-has the best coaching in the league and a heck of a catcher and hitter in chase hood. They always get alot of calls at home to its tough to go into eton and get a win the umps. are god awful over there.

Valley View- will be good there pitching is weak but they hit the ball as a team better than anyone in the league. Also they play super tough at that tiny field in the middle of the cornfields.

Bellbrook- worst defensive baseball team in the league they boot the ball around everywhere lost their best player in mark stratis the only real pitcher they had.

Brookville- dont know alot about them they did have one decent pitcher last year. their new field is awful the infield is so bad but has some nice dugouts should be a decent firld in a few years.

Milton- by far the worst team in the league they field a really bad team and have an awful field proably the worst field in the league.

Oakwood- is done when it comes to baseball they will be competing with brookville and milton for last place in the league lost so much in carpenter parrish and hardy.

My predicitions:
Franklin
Valley View
Eaton
bellbrook
Oakwood
Brookville
milton

[ftballdad10]

Cats22, the Spartans won a share of the league with 3 Jr. pitchers all of which have been pitching varsity since their freshman year. Weak? I don't think so.
I agree that the title will be up for grabs for the View, Franklin or Eaton.
Can't wait til Spring!

[cats22]

and not one of those pitchers has dominating stuff they have no ace like franklin has blackford eaton has french. who does valley view have they are decent pitchers but not a kid on the staff that u can throw out there and know if hes on that day your going to get a W. trust me valley views weakness is pitching

[JrOhio78]

Brookville is better than you think. They are young but talented. There catcher is tough, I think he is only a sophmore. There infield is solid & they can hit. That is my view of Brookville from coaching against them last summer.

[Iluvbaseball]

Cats22,

Just because a team doesn't have a dominate pitcher doesn't make their staff weak. They return their entire staff if Raisch returns from an injury, (Does anyone know anything about this??). What constitutes a dominate pitcher in your mind?? I saw Blackford 5 times last year and Franklin only registered one win in those games. So just putting him on the mound was no guarantee of a W for Franklin. Does that mean he is not a dominating pitcher?? I think he is very good!!!!!! He could be even better if he is not over pitched!!!!!

That same staff was good enough for VV to share the league title with Eaton. Harshberger is better than you give him credit for. Also, look out for Blue. He logged many innings last year as a freshman and will probably improve this year.

Blackford is a better pitcher at home where he gets to use the height of the mound to his advantage. I am not sure why he struggled at the end of last year but if he regains his sophomore form Franklin will be in the hunt for the title.

[ftballdad10]

First thing "Blue" was a Sophomore last year and yes he will contribute to the pitching staff in a big way. Last year he was the closer. Have not heard an update on Raischs left shoulder surgery (hurt in football). Sophomore Roberts (side armer) is also going to contribute. Harshbarger did get the ball in all the big games so that must tell you something about him and his stuff. Jones got the ball against the good teams from the other Div. threw a one hitter and beat Carlisle also beat Madison and came in in relief to shut down Eaton. Raisch was not as dominate as his sophomore year.

Pergrem would like to hear more about this kid, haven't seen him pitch

[ftballdad10]

Iluvbaseball are you saying that Franklins mound is above regulation height to give Blackford and Martin an advantage?? They wouldn't do that would they???:shrug:

[Iluvbaseball]

Iluvbaseball are you saying that Franklins mound is above regulation height to give Blackford and Martin an advantage?? They wouldn't do that would they???:shrug:

Let me just say that the mound looks a little high :stirthepot:

[Iluvbaseball]

ftballdad10,

Thanks for the update on Raisch and the correction on Blue. One of these two have to be a factor for VV to do any damage beyond the SWBL. Raisch has the most potential but he needs more command of his pitches. He throws pretty hard. Jones could be a wildcard for the staff. He closed out VV's win at Eaton and his curve was money.

[swbl478]

Bellbrook- worst defensive baseball team in the league they boot the ball around everywhere lost their best player in mark stratis the only real pitcher they had.

I think Defense will actually be a strength this year for the Golden Eagles. Thacker will move to first base this year. Zach Guess will play second, So. Christian Demko will be at short and Mike Morgan will play 3rd. Thats 3 Jr's and a Soph in the infield. This will be the best infield that Bellbrook has had in a while. This will be a young team again with only 2 Seniors in the starting lineup. Stratis had a nice year on the mound last year for Bellbrook, but they have a stable of other pitchers. Jonny Thacker, if healthy, is clearly the #1. Stratis never threw above 77 last year. Thacker hits 83-84 regularly. Morgan throws about the same speed as Stratis did last year, but with much better off speed pitches. He shut down, and got the win over, #1 Seed Hamilton Ross in the playoffs last year. Sr. Brian Seger will probably get the ball a ton this year. He's a lefty that when he's on will make you look bad. Even So. Demko can hit 80 on the gun. The future looks bright.

[anonymousfan2008]

Is this just a thought of your own, or do you have something to base this on? Didn't he play MI last year for Bellbrook and he played 2B for the Classics. I could see him at 3B but 1B would surprise me! I don't know who else they have but moving him out of the MI makes sense.

[swbl478]

Is this just a thought of your own, or do you have something to base this on? Didn't he play MI last year for Bellbrook and he played 2B for the Classics. I could see him at 3B but 1B would surprise me! I don't know who else they have but moving him out of the MI makes sense.

His arm was sore for much of the season last year. He DH'd and played 2nd Base some. The guys playing MI are both better than him, IMHO. It makes sense for him to move to 1B. He plays 2B for the Classics to get his bat in the lineup. He is not a 2nd baseman. He doesn't have the speed to play MI at the next level, which I think is his goal. Morgan is a better 3B than him. Again, IMHO. He has purchased a 1B mitt and been working out with it.

[viperbball]

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[Baseballfan31]

footballsad10 pergrem is real deal seen him pitch for first time this summer in Cincinnati flames tournament my sons team played against them and they couldn't touch him he has several pitches and great speed I agree with cats 22 once you see him he will be the best his school team has.

[swbl478]

footballsad10 pergrem is real deal seen him pitch for first time this summer in Cincinnati flames tournament my sons team played against them and they couldn't touch him he has several pitches and great speed I agree with cats 22 once you see him he will be the best his school team has.

Was Pergrem on Varsity last year? I dont remember seeing him. What other positions does he play?

[jacksbaseball8]

After seeing these rankings I would have to agree with them. Oakwood will have to dig deep into their underclassman to see if they are going to be a good team in the next few years. Look for Charbat, Lamb and Ambrose to be the top 3 for oakwood next season. The catcher from last year was injured in a soccer game. Won't be back for baseball. A Sophomore is going to take his place. concerns??!

[Baseballfan31]

swbl478 I believe pergrem was on varsity last year if he wasn't it was a bad call by his coach. The only other game I seen him play he was at 2nd and was very strong there also.

[swbl478]

After seeing these rankings I would have to agree with them. Oakwood will have to dig deep into their underclassman to see if they are going to be a good team in the next few years. Look for Charbat, Lamb and Ambrose to be the top 3 for oakwood next season. The catcher from last year was injured in a soccer game. Won't be back for baseball. A Sophomore is going to take his place. concerns??!

Sorry to hear about their catcher. Has Oakwood decided on a new coach? Why was he not renewed? If the catcher is Munn(sp) there should be concern. I saw him at a tryout this summer and wasnt impressed. But it could have just been a bad day.

[Dew man]

Pergrem was on the varsity last year, he was a back up to Jabo at 2nd. He did pitch some also. He was lucky to get 10-15 at bats all year. It will be interesting to see where he will fall this year.

[jacksbaseball8]

they decided on Nathan Hyatt, guy out of Vandalia Butler. Class act, great guy. graduated from oakwood in like '97. When did you see munn tryout? because thats the kid

[swbl478]

they decided on Nathan Hyatt, guy out of Vandalia Butler. Class act, great guy. graduated from oakwood in like '97. When did you see munn tryout? because thats the kid

Sounds like a good choice. I saw him at a Dayton Dodgers tryout I believe.

[jacksbaseball8]

Yeah he's decent. Hopefully he'll turn some heads this year.

[Dew man]

Franklins strong point this year will be there pitching, in no order Blackford, Bray, Martin, Pergerm, Matthes, Atkins, Davis and a couple others. They are deep in pitching this year. Offense will be good with Bray and Saporito at the top, you still have Martin, Simpson, Matthews and others in there.

I think the league is a 3 team race between Franklin, Valley View, and Eaton(that is in on order). It's going to come down to good pitching, timely hitting and good defense. This is going to be fun to watch this year.

[ehshood25]

yup yup, its about that time.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Cats22,

Just because a team doesn't have a dominate pitcher doesn't make their staff weak. They return their entire staff if Raisch returns from an injury, (Does anyone know anything about this??). What constitutes a dominate pitcher in your mind?? I saw Blackford 5 times last year and Franklin only registered one win in those games. So just putting him on the mound was no guarantee of a W for Franklin. Does that mean he is not a dominating pitcher?? I think he is very good!!!!!! He could be even better if he is not over pitched!!!!!

That same staff was good enough for VV to share the league title with Eaton. Harshberger is better than you give him credit for. Also, look out for Blue. He logged many innings last year as a freshman and will probably improve this year.

Blackford is a better pitcher at home where he gets to use the height of the mound to his advantage. I am not sure why he struggled at the end of last year but if he regains his sophomore form Franklin will be in the hunt for the title.
Franklin`s whole pitching staff struggled last year or better yet their catcher. 50+ passed balls, he struggled catching strikes, blocking anything in the dirt out of the question. It`s hard to step on the mound with confidence as a pitcher knowing your catcher is struggling. The catcher was only a soph. last year with limitted catching experience so hopefully he worked on his game and has matured since last year. Catching is the key for Franklin this year, they could be sub .500 or battling for the title only time will tell.

[cats22]

Talking about franklin mound for blackford and martin being tall. Lets talk about the thing you call a field over in valley view. wind always blowing out and is about 330 dead center. Valley View is bad away from home because they hit routine pop ups at t bigger field look at the last 2 years when they played at franklin they got run ruled both games. Being said franklin always struggles at valley view and i dont believe they have won a game there since joining the swbl.

Then you have Eaton. Field is bad number one but the thing you run into over at eaton is the umpires are always umpires who only do SWBL games involving eaton due to the location of Eaton so it seems they always get every close call.

Those are by far the hardest two places to go play in the SWBL. For anyone to win league you usually have to go 10-2 and that will get you the league title. IN 2007 when Franklin won league they went 6-0 at home 4-2 on the roads with loses at the View and Eaton. So for Franklin to win it this year going undefeated at home is a must and winning against the lesser teams on the road and then they will be fine but stumble at home and then you get in trouble having to win a game at eaton or vallley view.

[Iluvbaseball]

Talking about franklin mound for blackford and martin being tall. Lets talk about the thing you call a field over in valley view. wind always blowing out and is about 330 dead center. Valley View is bad away from home because they hit routine pop ups at t bigger field look at the last 2 years when they played at franklin they got run ruled both games. Being said franklin always struggles at valley view and i dont believe they have won a game there since joining the swbl.

Then you have Eaton. Field is bad number one but the thing you run into over at eaton is the umpires are always umpires who only do SWBL games involving eaton due to the location of Eaton so it seems they always get every close call.

Cat22,

Ok let me address two of your points in your post. VV was 5-1 at home and 5-1 on the road last year to share the league title with Eaton. Eaton won on VV's field and VV returned the favor winning at Eaton. I guess 5-1 is a bad road record for VV, huh?? As for the dimensions of the field, I believe that it is approximately 350 all the way around. Maybe a VV poster can give us the exact details. True Centerfield is short by field standards but the real tiny field in the SWBL is at Oakwood where left and leftcenter measure around 280 at best.

As for the comment on the umpires at Eaton, I will leave that alone because it doesn't deserve a comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cats22]

I was not talking about just last year number one. Number two for the big three to win this league they need to take care of business at home and take care of business against Bellbrook, Brookville, Milton, and Oakwood on the road leaving room for a loss or two against Eaton Valley View or Franklinon the road. Its alot easier to get a win against a good team at home then have to go into another teams field and have to get the W.

In regards to Valley Views Field i know that field is now where near 350 down the lines. Ill give it 320 to the lines 330 in the alleys and prolly 350 in center and ive played there 3 times and never has the wind not been blowing hard and and blowing out making that a field where the ball flies out of. Oakwoods field is the smallest in regards to left field but the wind isnt as much of afactor and there is not fence from a little right of center.

Im not getting in a pissing match with you over this. You just seem to be a little thick headed and take some of my comments personal.

The league will in no doubt of my mind be between Valley View Franklin Eaton.

Eaton has the best coaching by far , and the best catcher which i personally think is a key for winning the league. Franklin has the best pitching and return alot of good players. Valley View returns everything but imho lose their "guy" he was the heart of that team. Its gonna be hard for them to replace him. if they have someone step up and do what he did last year they should be the favorite to win it.

[Iluvbaseball]

OK, I will agree that it is a little easier to win at home in big games. That is why they call it the home field advantage. Franklins may be the size of the mound, VV may be the size of the park, and Eatons may be the uniqueness of the outfield fence.

I didn't take anything you said personally. I just addressed your comment that VV is a bad road team. Their only road loss was the smoking Franklin put on them on your field!! Please explain your comment that they are a bad road team.

I agree they lost a key player but so did the other contenders. I also heard that one of their pitchers is not returning this season. I will still take them because of all the other key players returning. BTW, VV's catcher is pretty good as well. Eaton will be a close 2nd and Franklin will be a close 3rd. Your point may be correct that the catching could be the main difference between the big three.

[cats22]

THe two times i played against valley view at home they were a bad hitting team u go to their place and play them they hit like the best team in the league their offense is suited very well for that small field. They hit alot of pop ups that turn into home runs at their field. Fraklins field is the biggest field in the league making valley views pop up homers become routine fly balls.

Chase Hood is definatly better than Allan but they are both good Chase hood will play D1 ball kid has the whole package from frame to the stick.

Playing at all the fields multiple times and pitching off a majority of the mounds i would say franklin has the nicest field and i myself did not like the tall mound. Didnt trip my trigger at all maybe becauseim not 6'4or because i just wasnt a very good pitcher lol...

[swbl478]

I'm interested in knowing if many schools in the SWBL actually have cuts for Baseball? Fielding a full JV/Varsity seems like it might be difficult for many schools. I know at Bellbrook we only cut 1 player. Just interested in what other schools do.

[eagles09]

Eaton only cut 3 players this year. Fielding a freshman team may be the hardest

[Shangri-la]

I haven't heard much about Oakwood. What do they have returning? Who will be some of the new faces?

[Shangri-la]

Any scrimmage results?

[ehshood25]

Any scrimmage results?


Eaton scrimmaged fairborn. Eaton won 19-7
Also they scrimmaged Versailles. Eaton won 5-3

[cats22]

ehshood25 If you are who i think you are you shouldnt be posting on here for your own benefits.

[ehshood25]

ehshood25 If you are who i think you are you shouldnt be posting on here for your own benefits.

im not. He asked scrimmage results and i posted it.
im not talking about me or anything.

[cats22]

okay your are fine player and have a huge upside keep playing the game the way it should be played..

[ehshood25]

okay your are fine player and have a huge upside keep playing the game the way it should be played..

Thanks, i will.

[jacksbaseball8]

oakwood didnt drop anyone.. 3 sophs on varsity. beat clinton massie 12 to 2 yesterday, not looking too bad. anybody else play yesterday? the jacks play eaton today.

[cats22]

So far the records I know in league
Franklin 1-0
Eaton 1-0
Brookville 0-1
Valley View 0-1

Need some help with this so we can have up to date league standings. Franklin has got off to a good start and will prolly go into their Florida trip 3-0. Blackford looked solid giving up one hit on an infield single and striking out nine. Also Blackford has signed to play baseball at division II Tiffin.

[jacksbaseball8]

oakwood is 2-0
eaton is 1-1

[swbl478]

oakwood is 2-0
eaton is 1-1

Oakwood's playing well to start the season. Looks like they might surprise like football.

[PeterGammons]

Call me crazy (i have been before) but Eaton and Franklin, 2way tie for first this year.

[Shangri-la]

How did the teams do that went to Florida last week?

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin went 4-1 down in Ft Walton`s beach bash

[ftballdad10]

Valley View 3-2 in Fort Walton Beach.

[cats22]

Franklin beat Milton tonight 10-0
2 pitchers combined for no hitter

[cats22]

4-16 franklin 6
milton 1
4-17 franklin 13
bellbrook 3

[swbl478]

Bellbrook defeated Eaton tonight 3-2

They have Brookville at home tomorrow and are at VV on Friday. Their league record is (1-1) A ton of league games to be played in the next 3 weeks.

[cats22]

Franklin 7
Valley View 2

Blackford pitches well. And some timely hitting by the wildcats. Cats remain undefeated in league play.

[swbl478]

Franklin 7
Valley View 2

Blackford pitches well. And some timely hitting by the wildcats. Cats remain undefeated in league play.

Cats,

Has Franklin played Oakwood yet? What is the Wildcats league record now?

[swbl478]

Bellbrook Defeats Brookville 11-4

[cats22]

Oakwood game got rained out i think they play them twice next weet.Franklin is 5-0 i believe in league. they have beat milton twice bellbrook once brookville once and valley view once. They are @ Eaton tomorrow.

[cats22]

Franklin 5
Little Miami 3
Warren County Tournament game. Franklin plays the winner of Springboro and Kings on Saturday. Franklin is now 12-2.

[cats22]

Franklin 6
Eaton 1
Franklin moves to 13-2 on the season. 6-0 in the league.

[cats22]

Franklin Beat Springboro this morning to advance to the warren county tournament championship against Mason.
Franklin 10
Springboro 2

[cats22]

Mason 7
Franklin 5
Franklin Takes 2nd In The Warren County Champioship. Franklins Record Is 14-3 Now..

[swbl478]

Bellbrook Defeated Oakwood tonight 8-2. Bellbrook moves to 11-3. 3-2 in the league.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin 6
Brookville 4
Franklin improves to 15-3 7-0 SWBL

[cats22]

looks like oakwood may have been holding back their pitcher for franklin and got caught by a decent Bellbrook team.

[Shangri-la]

looks like oakwood may have been holding back their pitcher for franklin and got caught by a decent Bellbrook team.

I have seen Oakwood play several times and I really don't think they are very good. I know their record is 13-2 but I expect Franklin to dominate.

[cats22]

Franklin 16 16-3 (8-0)
Oakwood 10

Blackford gets the W. Bray hits 2 homers. Saporito and Davis hit 1.

They play again tommorrow. This time at Franklin.

[ohio4462]

Hopefully tonight Oakwood will do better against Franklin with Oakwood's senior pitcher and longer fences. Franklin can hit well though and plays a solid game, but Oakwood is scrappy though and never gives up.:blush:

[ohio4462]

Franklin squeaked by Oakwood 6-4 on Wednesday night. Oakwood Senior Pitcher Tyler Philo held Franklin to only 2 earned runs for the entire game pitched, but the unearned runs made the difference. These two teams should meet again deep in the tournament.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin squeaked by Oakwood 6-4 on Wednesday night. Oakwood Senior Pitcher Tyler Philo held Franklin to only 2 earned runs for the entire game pitched, but the unearned runs made the difference. These two teams should meet again deep in the tournament.

squeaked? What`s your point? Good teams find ways to win. franklin 9-0 Oakwood 6-3? in league play. Enough said

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin squeaked by Oakwood 6-4 on Wednesday night. Oakwood Senior Pitcher Tyler Philo held Franklin to only 2 earned runs for the entire game pitched, but the unearned runs made the difference. These two teams should meet again deep in the tournament.

You just lost twice to Franklin`s number one and two starters, who maybe had their "c" stuff. You better hope you don`t meet Franklin in the "tourney" and have to face either Blackford or Pergram with their "A" game. I would predict a run rule shutout in Franklin`s favor.

[cats22]

Idk all the talk about the run rule and a shutout. But if these two teams meet up again Franklin will be very tought to beat. There just so deep and show up everygame. But i look for Franklin to get the 1 seed in the draw and oakwood will prolly get a 3 or 4 seed. But best of luck the rest of the way Oakwood.

[munoz45]

Isn't Franklin d-2 and Oakwood d-3?

[swbl478]

Isn't Franklin d-2 and Oakwood d-3?

No they are both D2

[swbl478]

Bellbrook defeated MU tonight at 5/3 field 10-0. They move to 12-4 overall 4-3 in the league.

[swbl19]

Idk all the talk about the run rule and a shutout. But if these two teams meet up again Franklin will be very tought to beat. There just so deep and show up everygame. But i look for Franklin to get the 1 seed in the draw and oakwood will prolly get a 3 or 4 seed. But best of luck the rest of the way Oakwood.

I disagree. Franklin did not show up for the second Oakwood game on Wed. They had two earned runs and only about 5 or 6 hits. Oakwood lost that game all by themselves committing around 6 errors which gave Franklin the win in the end. And with the comment saying that Bradford and Pergram had their "c" stuff against Oakwood? Disagree as well. It may have seemed like that simply because those two are not as overpowering and amazing as everyone had earlier thought in the beginning of the season. Coincidental that Pergram and Bradford BOTH brought their "c" stuff to the Oakwood games? I think not.

[cats22]

I disagree. Franklin did not show up for the second Oakwood game on Wed. They had two earned runs and only about 5 or 6 hits. Oakwood lost that game all by themselves committing around 6 errors which gave Franklin the win in the end. And with the comment saying that Bradford and Pergram had their "c" stuff against Oakwood? Disagree as well. It may have seemed like that simply because those two are not as overpowering and amazing as everyone had earlier thought in the beginning of the season. Coincidental that Pergram and Bradford BOTH brought their "c" stuff to the Oakwood games? I think not.

Nice first post:shrug:.Bradford?? Its Blackford there is why your whole post is ignorant. Good teams find ways to win when they dont bring their best game. If you are saying at all that Oakwood is on the level of Franklin talent wise you are crazy. Your SS and 3rd basemen have no arms. They barely get the ball accross the field. If Oakwood would have made some plays kast night they may have won. But when you boot the ball aorund the field against a good team you arent going to win. The record in the league speaks for itself. Franklin 9-0 in league Oakwood 6-3.

Im not saying at all that Oakwood cant beat Franklin. They have a nice club and will prolly end up 2nd or 3rd in league. But they are just not as physically talented as Franklin.

[swbl478]

Nice first post:shrug:.Bradford?? Its Blackford there is why your whole post is ignorant. Good teams find ways to win when they dont bring their best game. If you are saying at all that Oakwood is on the level of Franklin talent wise you are crazy. Your SS and 3rd basemen have no arms. They barely get the ball accross the field. If Oakwood would have made some plays kast night they may have won. But when you boot the ball aorund the field against a good team you arent going to win. The record in the league speaks for itself. Franklin 9-0 in league Oakwood 6-3.

Im not saying at all that Oakwood cant beat Franklin. They have a nice club and will prolly end up 2nd or 3rd in league. But they are just not as physically talented as Franklin.

As much as I hate to admit it everything said here is true. Oakwood is bad defensively and good teams find a way to win. I think Oakwood is in for more of the same when they play good teams. I think VV and Bellbrook will get higher seeds in the tournament.

[swbl19]

Nice first post:shrug:.Bradford?? Its Blackford there is why your whole post is ignorant. Good teams find ways to win when they dont bring their best game. If you are saying at all that Oakwood is on the level of Franklin talent wise you are crazy. Your SS and 3rd basemen have no arms. They barely get the ball accross the field. If Oakwood would have made some plays kast night they may have won. But when you boot the ball aorund the field against a good team you arent going to win. The record in the league speaks for itself. Franklin 9-0 in league Oakwood 6-3.

Im not saying at all that Oakwood cant beat Franklin. They have a nice club and will prolly end up 2nd or 3rd in league. But they are just not as physically talented as Franklin.

I never once said that Oakwood was a good team defensively. I just said that their defense cost them the game, and Franklin didn't find a way to win, Oakwood showed them the way to win with costly errors. Yes, Franklin is a great team, but they are definitely beatable if teams don't just give the game away

[4theluvofthegame07]

I disagree. Franklin did not show up for the second Oakwood game on Wed. They had two earned runs and only about 5 or 6 hits. Oakwood lost that game all by themselves committing around 6 errors which gave Franklin the win in the end. And with the comment saying that Bradford and Pergram had their "c" stuff against Oakwood? Disagree as well. It may have seemed like that simply because those two are not as overpowering and amazing as everyone had earlier thought in the beginning of the season. Coincidental that Pergram and Bradford BOTH brought their "c" stuff to the Oakwood games? I think not.

First of all Blackford didn`t have his best stuff Tuesday night, why not? Who knows. Maybe it was the fact he was a little tired from throwing 10 innings in a 4 day stretch and then getting two days rest before Oakwood. I think, the home plate umpire was terrible( for both teams), all the pitchers who threw that night had to groove the ball to get strike calls. Which explains why the score was 16-10 after 6 innings. Second of all, how many times have you seen Blackford pitch to say whether or not he had his best stuff? I`ve seen him throw all year and I can say for a fact, that wasn`t his best stuff. Not even close. I don`t know what his game by game stats are, but I do know he has taken two perfect games into the fourth innings and didn`t give up an earned run until after about 15 innings or so. He has thrown two 1 hitters and didn`t give up a BB until his 20th inning or so. Now for Pergram, I don`t know what his deal was Wednesday night, at times he looked in control and other times he looked like he didn`t really want to be out there. Again I can say I`ve seen him pitch all year and that wasn`t his best stuff.
Franklin is better, I don`t know what else to say, sorry. I`m not saying I think Oakwood is terrible but Franklin is better all around. Oakwood, Valley View and Bellbrook are all solid teams and I wish them all the best of luck the rest of the regular season and the tourny.

[cats22]

I never once said that Oakwood was a good team defensively. I just said that their defense cost them the game, and Franklin didn't find a way to win, Oakwood showed them the way to win with costly errors. Yes, Franklin is a great team, but they are definitely beatable if teams don't just give the game away


What your saying was they gave it away? Why did they show up then? You make no sense you never said they were good defensively but you said thats why they lost. Franklin beat them twice they are obviously the better team my friend. Thats why you play the game to see whos win and who loses. When you look in the record book franklin is 2-0 against Oakwood. I guesss oakwood just didnt play hard or they made those errors on purpose. Next post make a valid statement please. I never said franklin was unbeatable i said they have more talent and talent will do alot for you buddy in high school baseball.

Post number 3 please put some thought into. Or just dont post at all ive never said franklin was unstoppable their obviously not 3 teams have found a way to beat them. Maybe you should be working on your game instead of posting on here about your team. Good luck the rest of the way please dont give anymore games away:shrug: :shrug:

[Dew man]

Franklin has had great starting pitching all year with Blackford, Pergrem and Martin, but they have all had good defense behide them. When the team avg. 8 runs in a game doesn't hurt either. Bray, Pergrem, Saporito, Martin, Matthews, Simpson and the rest of the team are giving alot of offense, to help the pitcher for wins.

[swbl19]

What your saying was they gave it away? Why did they show up then? You make no sense you never said they were good defensively but you said thats why they lost. Franklin beat them twice they are obviously the better team my friend. Thats why you play the game to see whos win and who loses. When you look in the record book franklin is 2-0 against Oakwood. I guesss oakwood just didnt play hard or they made those errors on purpose. Next post make a valid statement please. I never said franklin was unbeatable i said they have more talent and talent will do alot for you buddy in high school baseball.

Post number 3 please put some thought into. Or just dont post at all ive never said franklin was unstoppable their obviously not 3 teams have found a way to beat them. Maybe you should be working on your game instead of posting on here about your team. Good luck the rest of the way please dont give anymore games away:shrug: :shrug:

Of course. You are right. Who am I to share my opinion on things when i have only posted two things. I mean u obviously didn't have a 3rd post in your life, so I understand why you can think that other people's opinion don't matter. All I'm going to say is that I don't think that Franklin is as good as you think because you are 100% blinded to the world by the saying "Good teams find a way to win." If you really think that Franklin deserved to win the second game, I'm sorry for you.:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[swbl478]

Of course. You are right. Who am I to share my opinion on things when i have only posted two things. I mean u obviously didn't have a 3rd post in your life, so I understand why you can think that other people's opinion don't matter. All I'm going to say is that I don't think that Franklin is as good as you think because you are 100% blinded to the world by the saying "Good teams find a way to win." If you really think that Franklin deserved to win the second game, I'm sorry for you.:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

I welcome all new voices to Yappi, we need them. I think I had a 3rd post, its been a while. I actually watched this game as an unbiased observer. While I don't disagree with everything you say, Franklin is the more talented team and will win most of the time against Oakwood. I say this as someone who doesnt really like Franklin or Oakwood, but I respect both teams. For you to say that you think that Oakwood "Deservered" to win the game is silly. I can only surmise that is what you ment since you said that Franklin didn't "Deserve" the win. When Oakwood needed a big pitch to be made, they didnt. When they needed a big hit, they didnt. When they needed a big defensive play, they didnt. Don't get me wrong, Oakwood had chances to win that game...they just didn't.

Good luck in the tournament to all the SWBL Teams.

[Shangri-la]

It looks like the SWBL has a good shot of coming out of the Dayton Sectional with 2 teams. I was surprised to see that VV was the 6th seed and Oakwood was the 5th seed. That makes for a really good first round game. I was also surprised that Bellbrook was a 4 seed. I dont know much about Monroe or Ross. Anyone have some good information? I could see Valley View making a run this year in the tournament.


http://www.swdab.org/Baseball/bb_div_ii_dayton.htm

[ohio4462]

I am very surprised that Valley View decided to come right at Oakwood instead of opting to take on a #7 seed and then a #3 seed. Valley View has only seen Oakwood once this year, and then it was when Oakwood had its #4 pitcher on the mound. Might be very different when they face the #1 or #2 pitcher. Makes it interesting who will pitch this next Friday for both teams when they face each other in a regular season ending game, and then to turn around and face each other that next Tuesday.

.....Good Luck to everyone in the SWBL in the Tournament...

[ohio4462]

On another note, it will be interesting to see if CJ can knock off Franklin again this year like they did last year :wallbang: - oh, never mind, "good teams always find a way to win." :wallbang:

[Dew man]

Hey OHIO4462 don't be a hater just because Franklin knocked off your Oakwood team.

[swbl478]

On another note, it will be interesting to see if CJ can knock off Franklin again this year like they did last year :wallbang: - oh, never mind, "good teams always find a way to win." :wallbang:

Hey this one made me laugh. Nothing wrong with a little trash talking!!

Good Luck to all the teams.

[cats22]

I am very surprised that Valley View decided to come right at Oakwood instead of opting to take on a #7 seed and then a #3 seed. Valley View has only seen Oakwood once this year, and then it was when Oakwood had its #4 pitcher on the mound. Might be very different when they face the #1 or #2 pitcher. Makes it interesting who will pitch this next Friday for both teams when they face each other in a regular season ending game, and then to turn around and face each other that next Tuesday.

.....Good Luck to everyone in the SWBL in the Tournament...

Maybe they see a team that is very not solid defensively?? Why wouldnt you pick to play a team your familiar with? If youve beat them once thats obviously a little confidence for your team. You need to get off your high horse and realize Oakwood is an average team.

You really crack me up with every post. You went to or go to Oakwood. This means you should be an inteligent person, since you people up their hold your self on a high level and think your better than everyone. Where is your thinking? You really have an excuse for every loss that oakwood has had. I have seen them play they are a decent team that is very young. They have suprised some people including myself i thought for sure they would be in the bottom of the league above only Brookville and Milton. They have over acheieved this season i think people will agree with that maybe not you because you can not see the truth.

But good luck in the tourney. Id love to see Fraklin play them in the regionals. I know Franklin would be the huge underdog and all but i think they might be able to pull off the upset. Call me crazy but it could happen.:stirthepot:

[ohio4462]

Sorry if I came across that way, but I don't "hate" Franklin. I would love to play them again and wish that Oakwood gets the chance to - just thought it was interesting that CJ was in their bracket. :confused:

[cats22]

CJ was better than the CO- League Champion Eaton last year also i guess becuse they went on to win the district. Maybe they were the better team last. So they found the way to win against a higher seed.

I dont think the seeding does and justice for what league you play in. Do you realize they play in the GCL? A much better league than the SWBL for sure. They play better competition day in and day out. When your looking at CJ and Alter you better not overlook them there record means nothing come tourney time.So keep running your mouth but i got a question for you. How did Oakwood not win league much less state in the last four years I mean they had Andrew Carpenter?

Another note for you Franklin won league in '07 got 3rd last year and prolly going to win it this year. All the while Oakwood has beat Franklin once since joining the league. Oakwood has never finished haigher than Franklin in baseball and it remains that way again this year. You guys are 1-5 in the last 3 years. Yet you still talk trash. Let the numbers speak.

[ohio4462]

Cats22 - Thank you very much for the compliments about my intelligence - did I mention my membership in MENSA on here. I understand that you think that Oakwood is a poor team defensively because when they played Franklin twice they were very bad defensively, but for most of the rest of the season, I have seen some of the best defense in the area. With the running back outfield, I have seen Lamb, Charbat, and Morris catch everything and anything that goes toward the grass. Sorry you missed that when Franklin played them.:blush:

[cats22]

Saying they are better than Hardy is a big statement. He was a very good baseball player and definatly could have played division one ball had he not played football.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood hasn't won the league since 1955 - the year they won state they didn't win league. I have never said that Oakwood is better than any other team, but I think that on any given night this year they could give anyone a game if the right pitcher is on and the defense is clicking.

[cats22]

If Carpenter is "overrated" he hit a homerun in his first ab as a Spartan. Not too Shabby. I know andrew and he was a heck of a ball player and i do not know why you would bash someone from your own school who has went on to the next level at a big ten school.

[cats22]

Franklin wraps up the league tonight with a 7-5 come back win at Valley View.
Its all about who gets second now. Good luck 2-7.

Move to 18-3 10-0 in league.

Bray goes 4-5 if the kid doesnt win player of the year i will be very suprised kid is hittin 579 on the year.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood and Bellbrook battled for 12 complete innings to a 3-3 tie, suspended because of darkness. A very exciting game to watch.

[swbl478]

Franklin wraps up the league tonight with a 7-5 come back win at Valley View.
Its all about who gets second now. Good luck 2-7.

Move to 18-3 10-0 in league.

Bray goes 4-5 if the kid doesnt win player of the year i will be very suprised kid is hittin 579 on the year.

I think his only competition is with his own teammate Blackford. We will know who the coach likes and pushes for when the voting comes out.

[swbl478]

Oakwood and Bellbrook battled for 12 complete innings to a 3-3 tie, suspended because of darkness. A very exciting game to watch.

Couldn't agree more. Great game. I have to commend the Oakwood student body for coming out and making a ton of noise. It was fun to see a full stands of fans at a baseball game. Both teams played well. This game had everything. Good pitching, Home runs, comebacks, guys thrown out at the plate, guys picked off, pitch outs to stop squeeze plays, fan interference, dropped third strikes and guys reaching base. Every AB had a Playoff atmosphere. You had to be there. I almost felt like it was a raucous basketball game in the Pit. If you were just a fan of baseball you were disappointed when it was called for darkness.

[Dew man]

I thinks both boys from Franklin are having a great year. But Blackford only pitches and Bray plays every inning of every game. They should have one for a pitcher and one for an every day player.

Valley View had Blackford on the ropes last night, but Martin come in to get the win, 3 shut out inning this kid is pitching great right now. It was a great game on both side. David Day pitched well last night.

Best of luck to Franklin and Valley View from here on out.

[cats22]

I think his only competition is with his own teammate Blackford. We will know who the coach likes and pushes for when the voting comes out.


Blackfordis having a great year he is 6-0 and has been great. But down the stretch in the last few games he hasnt been as dominate. He has been overworked which is not his fault at all. But you have a kid in Macklin Bray who is hitting 579 plays every inning and has a couple homeruns and has stolen about 20 bases. To me you have to go with him because he is out there everyday where Blackford only goes every third game or so.

I also think that Bray should win it because blackford already has two POYs one in baseball and basketball. Let another kid get one who is just as or more deserving.

I look for these players from franklin to get all league honors and ill will predict what team they get.

Bray 1st and POY
Blackford 1st team
Saporito 1st team
Pergrem 1st team
Simpson 1st team
Martin 1st team
Davis 2nd team
Matthews 2nd team
Guaze honorable mention

I know all those player prolly wont get first team but they all deserve it. I think all these kids will get atleast some kind of honors.

[Dew man]

Just saw a thread where Franklin is 9th in the state poll!! WOW

Cats22 I agree all those guys are in line to get something, they have been a tuff team all year.

I would say that a couple of them would have a shot at all-state honors too, we'll see.

18-3 not bad

[lacrosseking90]

for all you valley view and oakwood people: Monroe is 15-2 on the year with big time wins over Turpin,Goshen,Edgewood,Madison, and tied Talawanda(darkness). They are stacked throughout there lineup with Ridinger, Kellis, Osterman, and Haskin leading the way. McElroy is there #1 pitcher and 5 hitter, topping out at about 90 mph. with some good off speed. Osterman plays all over the field (catcher, 1st, 3rd, outfield and pitches a bit). Ridinger stud shortstop. Kellis #2 or #3 pitcher plays outfield as well. Haskin #2 or #3 pitcher plays 3rd, good bat. Jeff haller 2 hitter(transfer from Lakota East) center fielder. Haller, Kellis, and Osterman all hitting above .400. The hornets should have no trouble with spartans or lumberjacks in the second round.

[Shangri-la]

Blackfordis having a great year he is 6-0 and has been great. But down the stretch in the last few games he hasnt been as dominate. He has been overworked which is not his fault at all. But you have a kid in Macklin Bray who is hitting 579 plays every inning and has a couple homeruns and has stolen about 20 bases. To me you have to go with him because he is out there everyday where Blackford only goes every third game or so.

I also think that Bray should win it because blackford already has two POYs one in baseball and basketball. Let another kid get one who is just as or more deserving.

I look for these players from franklin to get all league honors and ill will predict what team they get.

Bray 1st and POY
Blackford 1st team
Saporito 1st team
Pergrem 1st team
Simpson 1st team
Martin 1st team
Davis 2nd team
Matthews 2nd team
Guaze honorable mention

I know all those player prolly wont get first team but they all deserve it. I think all these kids will get atleast some kind of honors.

Here are my thoughts for 1st team

Bray Franklin POY
Blackford Franklin
Saporito Franklin
Thacker BB
Seger BB
Hood Eaton
French Eaton
David Day VV
Josh Allen VV
Tony Lamb Oakwood
Someone from Brookville

They had 11 on First team last year and I expect the same this year. Dont kill me on my selections this is just my opinion and I may have missed someone.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood should have more than one first teamer. :) Senior Pitcher Tyler Philo who is 5-1 and an ERA of less than 1.5 should definately be first team. He held Franklin to 2 earned runs in seven innings (his only loss) and pitched 6 innings of overtime ball to Bellbrook last night and kept them from scoring, and that is very tough against a team as well rounded and strong as Bellbrook.

:) Senior Kyle Kissock is also having a very strong year at second and short, with a batting average of .400, 15 walks, 16 stolen bases and 22 runs scored.

:) Junior Scott Harman is also playing well with a batting average of .380 and 18 RBI's, even though he has been playing the field instead of his normal catching.

[ohio4462]

Thank you swbl478 for such an accurate description of the Oakwood/Bellbrook game last night. You were right on target with everything you said. I have heard that game is resceduled to be completed on Saturday along with a new Oakwood/Bellbrook game that day. I can't imagine what the pitching will be like though with Oakwood's first tourney game on Tuesday vs. Valleyview.

[cats22]

Here are my thoughts for 1st team

Bray Franklin POY
Blackford Franklin
Saporito Franklin
Thacker BB
Seger BB
Hood Eaton
French Eaton
David Day VV
Josh Allen VV
Tony Lamb Oakwood
Someone from Brookville

They had 11 on First team last year and I expect the same this year. Dont kill me on my selections this is just my opinion and I may have missed someone.

Ilike this for the most part but i think that Jordan Pergrem from Franklin is a must to be on first team the kid is 4-1 on the mound bats seond and is prolly hitting around 400 hundred butother than that i like your selections. I heard that French got kicked off the team at Eaton anyone know any truth to this?

[4theluvofthegame07]

I thinks both boys from Franklin are having a great year. But Blackford only pitches and Bray plays every inning of every game. They should have one for a pitcher and one for an every day player.

Valley View had Blackford on the ropes last night, but Martin come in to get the win, 3 shut out inning this kid is pitching great right now. It was a great game on both side. David Day pitched well last night.

Best of luck to Franklin and Valley View from here on out.

I would like to see the league stats on both of them before making my prediction. Either one is deserving, Bray has been on fire the last couple of league games. Three of Blackford`s league wins he was lights out, his last two league games he has been "ok" defense has let him down a little. It comes down to which teams vote for who.
Blackford only pitches because the coaches won`t let him play the field out of fear of losing him to an injury, you can`t quite hold that against him.

[swbl478]

Ilike this for the most part but i think that Jordan Pergrem from Franklin is a must to be on first team the kid is 4-1 on the mound bats seond and is prolly hitting around 400 hundred butother than that i like your selections. I heard that French got kicked off the team at Eaton anyone know any truth to this?

I also liked that list above.

Since 1st team is supposed to be about how you did against the league. What kind of pitching stats does Pergrem have against the best other teams in the league? How did he do against Bellbrook, Valley View, Eaton and Oakwood? I don't consider any stats agasint MU and Brookville. They are both relatively weak. No disrespect intended to those schools, just looking for some info.

Bellbrook plays Eaton tomorrow. I will let you know if he is there.

[swbl478]

Oakwood should have more than one first teamer. :) Senior Pitcher Tyler Philo who is 5-1 and an ERA of less than 1.5 should definately be first team. He held Franklin to 2 earned runs in seven innings (his only loss) and pitched 6 innings of overtime ball to Bellbrook last night and kept them from scoring, and that is very tough against a team as well rounded and strong as Bellbrook.

:) Senior Kyle Kissock is also having a very strong year at second and short, with a batting average of .400, 15 walks, 16 stolen bases and 22 runs scored.

:) Junior Scott Harman is also playing well with a batting average of .380 and 18 RBI's, even though he has been playing the field instead of his normal catching.

I will ask the same info as I ask about Pergrem for Philo. What is his record agasint Bellbrook, Eaton, Valley View and Franklin? Seger is on that list becasue he beat both Eaton and Oakwood and had another win slip threw his fingers against Oakwood when he was leading 3-1 when he left. If you dont have at least 3 wins it probably wont happen. You just werent a good enough pitcher in the important league games. It's possible to get some all area votes with those stats though.

[Shangri-la]

I like this for the most part but i think that Jordan Pergrem from Franklin is a must to be on first team the kid is 4-1 on the mound bats second and is prolly hitting around 400 hundred but other than that i like your selections. I heard that French got kicked off the team at Eaton anyone know any truth to this?

Thanks for the information. I dont know anything about French. That would certainly open up a spot.

I hope that both Bellbrook and Franklin win their first game in the tournament. That would be a good Sectional final. I think I will go see the Monroe vs Oakwood/Valley View winner. That looks like a great game for so early in the tournament. I only know what I read on here, but their fans seem to think they are really good. I'm interested in seeing them for myself.

[swbl478]

Bellbrook plays tonight at Franklin. I hope the Golden Eagles are able to give the Wildcats a better game than they did at home a few weeks ago.

[cats22]

swbl 478

You will get to see Pergrem pitch tonight as im sure he will going to be going against you guys. Hopefully you will see why he should be first team.

[ohio4462]

Tyler Philo, senior pitcher for Oakwood, has SWBL wins against Eaton and Brookville, a no-decision yet in the Saturday 12 innings against Bellbrook (pitched for 6 scoreless innings so far), and the loss to Franklin when he pitched the complete game with two earned runs. Before the tourney draw he was scheduled this week against Bellbrook and ValleyView (Friday), but with the Valleyview tourney game next Tuesday (that he will pitch), he will probably see action tonight against MU. Other wins were shutouts of Carlisle and Twin Valley. He will probably be used to his fullest extent by Oakwood in the tourney. Thanks for asking.

[cats22]

PHILO is a senior? where was he last year? Oakwoods pitching wasnt that good last year. I dont understand why he wasnt around last year.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood's Tyler Philo has been playing with Varsity since Sophomore year. Had a win at Bellbrook last year, plus others. Was underutilized by head coach in the past (now gone, new coaching this year). He is going to the University of Toledo - College of Pharmacy next year and probably pitch some for the Rockets. He has played with the Patterson Park group in the summer for over a decade.

[cats22]

He commited to play baseball there? That really shocks me and ive never noticed this kid. I dont think he is going there to play there is no way.

[swbl478]

Tyler Philo, senior pitcher for Oakwood, has SWBL wins against Eaton and Brookville, a no-decision yet in the Saturday 12 innings against Bellbrook (pitched for 6 scoreless innings so far), and the loss to Franklin when he pitched the complete game with two earned runs. Before the tourney draw he was scheduled this week against Bellbrook and ValleyView (Friday), but with the Valleyview tourney game next Tuesday (that he will pitch), he will probably see action tonight against MU. Other wins were shutouts of Carlisle and Twin Valley. He will probably be used to his fullest extent by Oakwood in the tourney. Thanks for asking.

His resume is much like the resume of Bellbrook's pitcher Mike Morgan, who is 3-0. Wins over Brookville, Greenview and 5 hit/1 run Complete game of State Ranked Kenton Ridge. He is also the pitcher of record in the Bellbrook/Oakwood Marathon game. He is pitching tonight against Franklin. If he beats Franklin, doubtful, and gets a win in the Oakwood game on Saturday when it resumes, his resume would be as good as anybody's in the league except for Blackford and Day of VV.

[swbl478]

Oakwood's Tyler Philo has been playing with Varsity since Sophomore year. Had a win at Bellbrook last year, plus others. Was underutilized by head coach in the past (now gone, new coaching this year). He is going to the University of Toledo - College of Pharmacy next year and probably pitch some for the Rockets. He has played with the Patterson Park group in the summer for over a decade.

I dont remember the win against Bellbrook, but I do remember Bellbrook beating him in the State Playoffs at Springboro. Does he play for the Patterson Park Classics? I dont see his name on their roster. I wish him luck at Toledo if he indeed is going to pitch there.

[4theluvofthegame07]

His resume is much like the resume of Bellbrook's pitcher Mike Morgan, who is 3-0. Wins over Brookville, Greenview and 5 hit/1 run Complete game of State Ranked Kenton Ridge. He is also the pitcher of record in the Bellbrook/Oakwood Marathon game. He is pitching tonight against Franklin. If he beats Franklin, doubtful, and gets a win in the Oakwood game on Saturday when it resumes, his resume would be as good as anybody's in the league except for Blackford and Day of VV.

Morgan pitched a great game tonight against Franklin, kept them off balance the whole game. Hats off to him.

[cats22]

Franklin 3
Bellbrook 4

Maybe this is wake up call as these teams will prolly meet in the sectional finals.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood defeated Milton Union 14-2 tonight. Oakwood Sophomore Pitcher Troy Philo pitched the entire game giving up 4 hits for the win.
.....Sounds like the Bellbrook win over Franklin was exciting - should be a very good tournament this year :) :)
.....Oakwood plays Valley View tommorrow...

[swbl478]

swbl 478

You will get to see Pergrem pitch tonight as im sure he will going to be going against you guys. Hopefully you will see why he should be first team.

Pergrem did a very nice job on the mound. He just got out-dueled by a little better pitcher last night. Morgan doesnt throw that hard, but he has 4 pitches, that he can throw for strikes at any time in the count. His change is amazing. And just when you think "here comes that stinkin' change" he zips the 78 mph fastball by you, or flips that curve on the outside corner.

To beat a quality team like Franklin is a nice feather in his cap. I do think we saw a first teamer last night, he just pitched for Bellbrook.

[cats22]

Couldnt make the game last night swbl but it sounded like a pitchers dual for the most part. I cant wait to hopefully see these two teams meet up in about 2 weeks.

[ohio4462]

Valley View got the win at Oakwood 5-4, with Valley View using 4 different pitchers and Oakwood 3. Bad base running in the bottom of the 7th doomed the Lumberjacks. Valley View had 2 homeruns and Tyler Philo had one homerun for Oakwood.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin finishes the regular season 19-4 11-1 SWBL. Blackford got the win pitching a complete game. Good played game by both teams.

[swbl478]

Franklin finishes the regular season 19-4 11-1 SWBL. Blackford got the win pitching a complete game. Good played game by both teams.

Congratulations to the Wildcats. They were clearly the best team in the league this year. In my opinion, Blackford has locked up POY.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Congratulations to the Wildcats. They were clearly the best team in the league this year. In my opinion, Blackford has locked up POY.

Thanks. It caps off a great career for the seniors. They won the league twice in baseball, once in basketball(co champs w/Bellbrook) and made the playoffs in football. Just a great group of kids. Good luck to all Swbl teams in tourney.

[Dew man]

Does any one know when the all-league meeting is.

[cats22]

All league meeting is usually the saturday or sunday after the last league games. So players should know monday if there coach tells them before their awards banquet.

I still think Bray is the PLayer Of The Year but either way Bray or Blackford they are both grat choices and will definatly be the wnner the of the award.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Does any one know when the all-league meeting is.

league meeting was postponed till next weekend due to all of the games yet to be played

[gurumba]

league meeting was postponed till next weekend due to all of the games yet to be played

Does anyone know the results of the valley view - national trail baseball doubleheader saturday?

[4theluvofthegame07]

Franklin moves up to 5th in the new state poll.

[Dew man]

How did you find out that Franklin moved up to 5th in the polls.

[Dew man]

With a big game between Valley View and Oakwood tomorrow, who do you think will win. Valley View won on Friday by one.

Who ever wins will give Monroe all they want on Thursday.

I think Valley View will win on Tuesday, but it will be a great game.

[Shangri-la]

How did you find out that Franklin moved up to 5th in the polls.

http://associationdatabase.com/aws/OHSBCA/pt/sp/pollteams_results

Week 4 poll results

[4theluvofthegame07]

With a big game between Valley View and Oakwood tomorrow, who do you think will win. Valley View won on Friday by one.

Who ever wins will give Monroe all they want on Thursday.

I think Valley View will win on Tuesday, but it will be a great game.

I think the View wins both, or at least I hope they do. Classier players and parents JMO. I hope they go far!

[swbl478]

Ok let’s have some fun with our end of the season awards. This is just my opinion please don’t flame me. I have seen all of the teams at least twice and most of the good ones 3-4 times each. Please don’t comment just about your own players. Tell me who you liked from the other teams. Let’s keep this VERY positive. Don’t criticize any kid please.

Cy Young Award—Kyle Blackford/Franklin. I don’t think anyone can compete with his stats it’s kind of a no brainer.

Henry Aaron Award—Chris Saporito/Franklin. I know this may cause controversy but in my opinion no one brings fear into the heart to a pitcher more than “Sap”. This kid kills the ball. His outs are scary.

Ozzie Smith Award-(Best Defensive Player)—Christian Demko/Bellbrook. I am fortunate enough to see this kid almost every day. He “Makes” plays that other players don’t even consider. Slick fielder with a cannon for an arm. Oh and he can rake too.

ROY Award-(First Year on Varsity)--Jake Fryman/Bellbrook. Hit .435 with 5 homers and 22 RBI’s. Strong behind the plate. He’s just a Soph.

Barry Bonds Award (Guys whose stats would be better if they ever pitched to them)

Chase Hood/Eaton. Doesn’t have enough bats behind him to warrant ever pitching to him. Four balls go to first.

Jonny Thacker/Bellbrook. This kid hasn’t seen a fastball since his freshman year. Has been hit 6 games in a row. It’s easier to just hit him with a curve than throw him a fast ball.

Johnny Bench Award (Best Catcher)—Josh Allen/Valley View. With all due respect to Hood, when I have seen Allen play he has been stellar. Blocks everything and can rip the ball. What else do you want?

Roberto Clemente Award—Best outfielder. Give me some recommendations.

Coach of the Year—Tony Chitwood/Bellbrook. It would be easy to give it to the Franklin Coach, Matt Kinser, but he was expected to win and did it. No one expected Bellbrook to be in this position. Runner up Nathan Hyatt of Oakwood. Who expected them to do anything? I didn’t.

Best Fans/Oakwood—Every time I go to their park they have a ton of fans at the game. I give their student body respect for coming out and supporting their team.

Guys I saw this year that impressed me and stepped up their play.

Tony Lamb/Oakwood. Always seems to hit the ball hard

Tyler Philo/Oakwood. When everybody wrote this team off he took the ball in most of their big games.

David “Blue” Day/Valley View. Throws strikes and hits bombs. What else is there?

Catcher at/Brookville. I don’t remember his name. Looks like a player.

Mike Morgan/Bellbrook. This kid just gets people out. Best fielding 3rd Baseman in the league.

Pergrem/Franklin. I look forward to seeing him getting the ball next year in all the big games following Blackford’s graduation.

Macklin Bray/Franklin. Consummate hitter. Always seems to be in control. If he makes an out I’m shocked.

[Dew man]

How about Alter and Eaton game should be a good one.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Ok let’s have some fun with our end of the season awards. This is just my opinion please don’t flame me. I have seen all of the teams at least twice and most of the good ones 3-4 times each. Please don’t comment just about your own players. Tell me who you liked from the other teams. Let’s keep this VERY positive. Don’t criticize any kid please.

Cy Young Award—Kyle Blackford/Franklin. I don’t think anyone can compete with his stats it’s kind of a no brainer.

Henry Aaron Award—Chris Saporito/Franklin. I know this may cause controversy but in my opinion no one brings fear into the heart to a pitcher more than “Sap”. This kid kills the ball. His outs are scary.

Ozzie Smith Award-(Best Defensive Player)—Christian Demko/Bellbrook. I am fortunate enough to see this kid almost every day. He “Makes” plays that other players don’t even consider. Slick fielder with a cannon for an arm. Oh and he can rake too.

ROY Award-(First Year on Varsity)--Jake Fryman/Bellbrook. Hit .435 with 5 homers and 22 RBI’s. Strong behind the plate. He’s just a Soph.

Barry Bonds Award (Guys whose stats would be better if they ever pitched to them)

Chase Hood/Eaton. Doesn’t have enough bats behind him to warrant ever pitching to him. Four balls go to first.

Jonny Thacker/Bellbrook. This kid hasn’t seen a fastball since his freshman year. Has been hit 6 games in a row. It’s easier to just hit him with a curve than throw him a fast ball.

Johnny Bench Award (Best Catcher)—Josh Allen/Valley View. With all due respect to Hood, when I have seen Allen play he has been stellar. Blocks everything and can rip the ball. What else do you want?

Roberto Clemente Award—Best outfielder. Give me some recommendations.

Coach of the Year—Tony Chitwood/Bellbrook. It would be easy to give it to the Franklin Coach, Matt Kinser, but he was expected to win and did it. No one expected Bellbrook to be in this position. Runner up Nathan Hyatt of Oakwood. Who expected them to do anything? I didn’t.

Best Fans/Oakwood—Every time I go to their park they have a ton of fans at the game. I give their student body respect for coming out and supporting their team.

Guys I saw this year that impressed me and stepped up their play.

Tony Lamb/Oakwood. Always seems to hit the ball hard

Tyler Philo/Oakwood. When everybody wrote this team off he took the ball in most of their big games.

David “Blue” Day/Valley View. Throws strikes and hits bombs. What else is there?

Catcher at/Brookville. I don’t remember his name. Looks like a player.

Mike Morgan/Bellbrook. This kid just gets people out. Best fielding 3rd Baseman in the league.

Pergrem/Franklin. I look forward to seeing him getting the ball next year in all the big games following Blackford’s graduation.

Macklin Bray/Franklin. Consummate hitter. Always seems to be in control. If he makes an out I’m shocked.

Great Post! I agree with all of them, My underclassmen award would have to go to Demko. The kid has talent.

[ohio4462]

Oakwood defeated Valleyview 6-5 in 7 innings. For Oakwood, Senior Tyler Philo got the win (6 innings) and Sophomore Hank Beashore got the save (1 inning). Sophomore Connor Charbat had two home runs. Very exciting game!

[ohio4462]

Congrats to Brookville and Eaton for opening round wins.

[BCMafia]

Oakwood defeated Valleyview 6-5 in 7 innings. For Oakwood, Senior Tyler Philo got the win (6 innings) and Sophomore Hank Beashore got the save (1 inning). Sophomore Connor Charbat had two home runs. Very exciting game!

What other pitching does Oakwood have besides Philo? Who will they throw tomorrow night against Monroe?

[swbl19]

What other pitching does Oakwood have besides Philo? Who will they throw tomorrow night against Monroe?

Basically, Oakwood's pitching consists of Philo, Roess, and Charbat. Roess and Philo are the aces and what I've seen, Oakwood needs Charbat in the outfield, but when Charbat does have his stuff he's hitting 81 sometimes 82 with two good off speed pitches. But, I would assume that Oakwood will throw Roess who is a very consistent pitcher and gets the job done since Philo pitched yesterday and they need Charbat in the outfield.

[munoz45]

Monroe is a strong willed , well coached team. They usually don't beat themselves with errors and such and capitalize on your mistakes. McElroy will probably be on the hill, he hits 88-89 legit, consistently in 85-87 range with a hard breaking curve. It should be a very good game but I am thinking Monroe in this one, don't know much about Oakwood program this year.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Monroe is a strong willed , well coached team. They usually don't beat themselves with errors and such and capitalize on your mistakes. McElroy will probably be on the hill, he hits 88-89 legit, consistently in 85-87 range with a hard breaking curve. It should be a very good game but I am thinking Monroe in this one, don't know much about Oakwood program this year.

The game I saw him pitch in against Carlisle he was 80 tops with the wind blowing at his back.

[BCMafia]

The game I saw him pitch in against Carlisle he was 80 tops with the wind blowing at his back.

The game last week at Carlisle was definitely his worst outing of the year. He was still throwing pretty hard, he just could not throw a strike. Timely hitting helped bail him out. I think that he has gotten a little too much press this year for being on the hill against some bad SWBL teams, but he has kept the Hornets in the game against Madison, Edgewood and Carlisle. These were all games that they needed to win. I'm not sure how accurate the gun is at Miami U, but in the Edgewood game he hit 90 once or twice and was consistantly 86-88.

[cats22]

Franklin 10
CJ 4

Franklin moves on to the sectional finals at Lebanon on tuesday.
Blackfor got the W. Saportiot hit a three run BOMB!

[swbl478]

Bellbrook 5
Eaton 3

Brian Seger picks up the win to go to 5-1. Mike Morgan pitches the 7th for his first Save of the year. Soph Jake Fryman hits a 3 run bomb and has 4 RBI's to put the game away for the Golden Eagles. They get a rematch with Franklin on Tuesday next week.

[ohio4462]

Monroe defeated Oakwood 8-7 on Friday night at Oakwood in tourney play. The pitcher for Monroe was clocked in the first inning @ 91 MPH and pitched the entire game for the win. For Oakwood, Scott Harman had a Grand Slam and Tyler Philo had a solo homerun. Sophomore Hank Beashore got the loss in relief for the lumberjacks. :confused: :wallbang: :confused:

[BCMafia]

Monroe defeated Oakwood 8-7 on Friday night at Oakwood in tourney play. The pitcher for Monroe was clocked in the first inning @ 91 MPH and pitched the entire game for the win. For Oakwood, Scott Harman had a Grand Slam and Tyler Philo had a solo homerun. Sophomore Hank Beashore got the loss in relief for the lumberjacks. :confused: :wallbang: :confused:

The game really wasn't that close. Monroe had a costly 2 out error in the 5th inning that opened the door for 5 unearned runs for Oakwood. The grand slam happened after the error was made to keep the inning alive. The Hornets did a good job of keeping their heads screwed on straight and took care of business.

[4theluvofthegame07]

Any word on the league meeting last saturday? Who got first team and POY? Curious to hear about both divisions.

[munoz45]

Are they going to have a Southwestern League vs Buckeye League All Star game this year? They do it in basketball, so why not baseball?

[Shangri-la]

Are they going to have a Southwestern League vs Buckeye League All Star game this year? They do it in basketball, so why not baseball?

I think most players that you would find on the list of SWBL All Stars have commitments to other teams immediately following the end of the season. I just dont think there is time. Especially Pitchers. Its not like basketball where you can play any day or time. I know most summer coachs would frown on giving up one of their front line pitchers, or more, depending on the summer team for a game like this. The exception would be the Bob Ross Classic. I think this is a worth while event to showcase area talent.

[munoz45]

You play the game mid-week, no pitcher is going to throw more than 2 innings, so that shouldn't hurt a summer team. I think at least 6 of these honored are on the Team Worth team.

[swbl478]

Any word on the league meeting last saturday? Who got first team and POY? Curious to hear about both divisions.

http://www.swblohio.com/files/2009BaseballSouthwestDivisionLeagueFinal.pdf

http://www.swblohio.com/files/2009BaseballBuckeyeDivisionLeagueFinal.pdf

[munoz45]

Congrats to both P.O.Y., just happens both were won on pitching stats, great job guys, combined like 11 or 12-0 in league play

I wonder why doesn't SWBL have a pitcher and position player award, like the M.V.B.C.A. District and Middletown Journal all area teams

In the Buckeye I heard voting was 1- McElroy,2 - McCoppin,3 - Bingham
Not sure who finished 2-3 behind Blackford in voting in Southwestern.

[4theluvofthegame07]

In the Buckeye I heard voting was 1- McElroy,2 - McCoppin,3 - Bingham
Not sure who finished 2-3 behind Blackford in voting in Southwestern.[/QUOTE]

I heard it went 1- Blackford 2- Hood 3- Sapp. Congrats to all players who made it.

[FatLadySingin]

heyyy team worth? i think i remember vandalia-butler's acme team beat them last year in the nischwitz tourney

[munoz45]

yes, they did beat them last year.

[esd]

you guys are wrong on the way the voting went.

[4theluvofthegame07]

you guys are wrong on the way the voting went.

If you know the facts, then set us straight. I just posted what somebody told me.

[esd]

it dont really matter. i just dont like seeing false info on here

[cats22]

ESD

I wanna know what you heard. Did you hear that it was Blackford Bray Hood? Or Blackford Saporito and Bray all as the top three. I thought IMO that Bray would win this award but it really comes down to who Franklins coach pushed for the award so im pretty sure that Franklins coach probably pushed Blackford. nothing wrong with that as Franklin had 3 players very deserving. But to me Bray was the most valuable player to his team. I wonder who the team voted as the MVP?

[JEFFAMOTO17]

Congrats to Brookville and Eaton for opening round wins.

any word on how they did today

[4theluvofthegame07]

ESD

I wanna know what you heard. Did you hear that it was Blackford Bray Hood? Or Blackford Saporito and Bray all as the top three. I thought IMO that Bray would win this award but it really comes down to who Franklins coach pushed for the award so im pretty sure that Franklins coach probably pushed Blackford. nothing wrong with that as Franklin had 3 players very deserving. But to me Bray was the most valuable player to his team. I wonder who the team voted as the MVP?

After talking to a coach, there is no "pushing" or "selling" of players at the league meetings. Every player that made first and second team their coach read their stats and then the other coaches voted for the first team. The ones that didn`t make the first team that were talked about, their coach once again stated their stats, plus a few more players. This process was once again repeated for honorable mention. As far as POY there is no separate vote, the player that received the most first team votes won POY.
If I`m a coach I don`t need another coach to sell or push his players, I know what they did since I coached against them twice and I have my scorebook.

[cats22]

After talking to a coach, there is no "pushing" or "selling" of players at the league meetings. Every player that made first and second team their coach read their stats and then the other coaches voted for the first team. The ones that didn`t make the first team that were talked about, their coach once again stated their stats, plus a few more players. This process was once again repeated for honorable mention. As far as POY there is no separate vote, the player that received the most first team votes won POY.
If I`m a coach I don`t need another coach to sell or push his players, I know what they did since I coached against them twice and I have my scorebook.

If hes reading their "stats" that would be considered pushing a player. If this was the case why wouldnt the coach just read every player on his team? I believe your wrong on the player of the year voting. Every coach gets one vote for Player Of The Year and they cannont vote for their own player. What about a team who hasnt faced say a player like Blackford who only pitches? How do they know about him. The coach tells them about him and is therefore selling his player to the other coaches.

[4theluvofthegame07]

If hes reading their "stats" that would be considered pushing a player. If this was the case why wouldnt the coach just read every player on his team? I believe your wrong on the player of the year voting. Every coach gets one vote for Player Of The Year and they cannont vote for their own player. What about a team who hasnt faced say a player like Blackford who only pitches? How do they know about him. The coach tells them about him and is therefore selling his player to the other coaches.

Like I said all the players that made first and second team had their stats read. Which in Franklins case was Blackford, Bray, Sapporito, Martin,Pergram, and Simpson. So I guess you could say Matt Kinser pushed 6 players for first team and the player who received the most overall votes got POY. There is no seperate vote. You make your posts sound like Matt Kinser only tried to sell Blackford and that was not the case. I went back and looked at the boxscores and Blackford pitched against every team in the league except M.U.
Let me give you an example how coaches think. If a pitcher starts 5 games and throws 100 pitches a game, he has 500 chances to postively or negatively affect the outcome of the game. Where as a position players bats 4 times a game for 12 games(4x12=48) and has an average of 4 fielding chances a game(4x12=48) that is 96 chances to affect the outcomes of the games. So if a pitcher pitches game after game and shuts teams down (500 chances) vs a position players no errors and 24 hits(96 chances) its a no brainer the pitcher gets my vote. Sorry!
The all area meetings are different the coaches do sell their players for first team and there is a seperate vote for POY. Since you don`t believe me, become a coach and go to the meetings.

[munoz45]

As I understand, the coaches are given a ballot and each coach ranks 1-10 their top players. The top vote total goes to player of the year. The girls side of the league gave away pitcher of the year and player of the year awards, not sure why boys didn't do that but maybe they will.


Both pitchers. Blackford and McElroy had great seasons, are great kids, fierce competitors and should go on to sucessful college careers. You know if this class of players wasn't so strong, in this area, we wouldn't be having this discussion. This years class of players accross the area, has to be one of the strongest in years, just look at Badin, Lakota West, Monroe, Madison, Franklin, and many others. There were underclassmen , who in a different year, had stats to get first team but weren't voted in because of the strong class of seniors. Just look at how all the league/ district teams are so senior dominated, some of these kids appearing for the 3rd time.

[cats22]

To me you are being very cocky towards Blackford. He has a great team behind him and you are not giving any credit to what they do for him. I never said he was not deserving of POY he is a ---- of a pitcher and has been a huge part of Franklin succes. But baseball is not a "me" sport. He has 8 players behind him every game that have played exceptional and have helped him have such a succesful season. Blackford doesnt strike out every player so i know he needs those people behind him. Franklin has also given all their starting pitchers great run support and taken alot of pressure off them. All in all BASEBALL IS A TEAM SPORT AND NOT WON OR LOST BY ONE PLAYER.

But lets hope Blackford has another great outing and helps his TEAM make the regional finals. GO CATS!!!

[4theluvofthegame07]

To me you are being very cocky towards Blackford. He has a great team behind him and you are not giving any credit to what they do for him. I never said he was not deserving of POY he is a ---- of a pitcher and has been a huge part of Franklin succes. But baseball is not a "me" sport. He has 8 players behind him every game that have played exceptional and have helped him have such a succesful season. Blackford doesnt strike out every player so i know he needs those people behind him. Franklin has also given all their starting pitchers great run support and taken alot of pressure off them. All in all BASEBALL IS A TEAM SPORT AND NOT WON OR LOST BY ONE PLAYER.

But lets hope Blackford has another great outing and helps his TEAM make the regional finals. GO CATS!!!

you are a -------. I have never said anything like that, i gave you the "reason" why a coach would vote that way. I also questioned why you get on here and cry that the coach "pushed" for just Blackford, when that was not the case. Go back and read some of your post. The Franklin "TEAM" is having a great year and I have never said anything different. If I`m a coach and we are playing against Franklin the two players I don`t want to see are Blackford on the mound and Sapp at the plate, it is what it is. But that is not saying anything negitive about any of the other players. Jealousy is a terrible thing and it will be the downfall of Franklin`s team. It is people like you who and some of the parents that keeps it stirred up.

[jockey]

Cats 22 you seem to have a hidden agenda for the Bray kid, while he is a "OK player " I do not believe your cats win the league without Blackford , where as they would have likely won it with out Bray. This to me should be enough to clarify who should have and did get POY. I as a parent of another team that played your team was impressed with both players but when it comes to pushing for players , your coach did not need to push for Blackford and it is true as another said the highest vote getter wins POY in the SWBL there is no seperate vote. Again the only push is your push for the bray kid and again they still win the league without him but not without Blackford

[cats22]

Franklin 8
Kenton Ridge 2

Blackford pitches a heck of a game and everyone contributed today. Good team effort. If Blackford keeps throwing like this you will see the Cats in the regional final on Friday.

Next Game- Thursday @ UD Franklin vs. Cincinnati McNick
should be a good one.

[cats22]

As far as the posts directed towards me I am as proud as anyone for your son and what he has accomplished. I am in no way jealous of anything hes done if you think im a jealous person you do not know me very well. I have rooted for this team all year and i can have my own opinions. I never said he wasnt deserving of the award. Id love to see this team win it all as i have played with these kids my whole life and am great friends with all of them, and want nothing but the best for them.

[4theluvofthegame07]

As far as the posts directed towards me I am as proud as anyone for your son and what he has accomplished. I am in no way jealous of anything hes done if you think im a jealous person you do not know me very well. I have rooted for this team all year and i can have my own opinions. I never said he wasnt deserving of the award. Id love to see this team win it all as i have played with these kids my whole life and am great friends with all of them, and want nothing but the best for them.

First of all he is not my son, my youngest graduated 10 years ago. Second of all I`ve been in and around Franklin sports for a long time and I have never seen a group of parents like the ones I`ve seen the last few years. It is ridiculous the crap I have seen. Whatever happened to being happy and proud of your teamates, and the parents being happy and proud of the teams their sons and daughters play on. I do wish them all the best of luck and I am proud to say that I`m a WILDCAT fan.

[munoz45]

Great Job!!!!!!

Keep the SWBL alive and kicking!!!!

[cats22]

I think you need to be more positive too if your telling other people too. Ive never been negative or downed anyone just stated my own .02 cents. After all, isnt that this site is for???

[Shangri-la]

So what happened in the Desales game? I was at the McNick game and Franklin looked great. Not trying to pour any salt in a wound, just wanting to hear from someone who was there to let me know what happened in the game.

[playball14]

Cats 22 you seem to have a hidden agenda for the Bray kid, while he is a "OK player " I do not believe your cats win the league without Blackford , where as they would have likely won it with out Bray. This to me should be enough to clarify who should have and did get POY. I as a parent of another team that played your team was impressed with both players but when it comes to pushing for players , your coach did not need to push for Blackford and it is true as another said the highest vote getter wins POY in the SWBL there is no seperate vote. Again the only push is your push for the bray kid and again they still win the league without him but not without Blackford

you obviously must have not came to many franklin cames or you would know how big of an impact bray had on this team all year. The kid gets on base however he can. he is batting over .500 and can steal on anyone. not to mention a solid glove in the field. now im not being negative or taking anything away from the rest of the franklin team but if they didnt have bray it would have been a lot tougher to win league. he has came through with clutch hits time after time and he is just a down right scrappy ball player. for example in the oakwood game franklin wins after blackford had a bad outing and gave up 10 runs. Bray goes 5-5 with 2 home runs, single, triple. and a walk. i think 6 rbi's. without bray franklin loses that game

[4theluvofthegame07]

you obviously must have not came to many franklin cames or you would know how big of an impact bray had on this team all year. The kid gets on base however he can. he is batting over .500 and can steal on anyone. not to mention a solid glove in the field. now im not being negative or taking anything away from the rest of the franklin team but if they didnt have bray it would have been a lot tougher to win league. he has came through with clutch hits time after time and he is just a down right scrappy ball player. for example in the oakwood game franklin wins after blackford had a bad outing and gave up 10 runs. Bray goes 5-5 with 2 home runs, single, triple. and a walk. i think 6 rbi's. without bray franklin loses that game

Actually in the Oakwood game Bray had an error that cost Franklin 3 runs which was 3 of the 7 Blackford gave up that game, not 10. But really who cares? Franklin had a great year and couldn`t have won as many as they did without the great play of Bray, Sapp, Simpson, martin, Pergram, Davis, moore, Gauze,mathews, and both blackfords. On any given night somebody stepped up and made a big play or had a timely hit. This Franklin team finished up as one of the best teams in Franklins history. The graduating seniors have left some big shoes for next years team to fill. we can only hope they are up to the challenge. GO CATS!!!!!!!

[swbl478]

I saw on the Sinclair site that Bray is playing there this year. Besides Blackford at Tiffin are any other SWBL Southwestern seniors playing in college this year?

[ftballdad10]

Bray (Franklin) at Sinclair
Blackford (Franklin) at Tiffin
Harshberger (VV) at Indiana Tech
Allen (VV) at Urbana
Jones (VV) at Miami of Hamilton

[jacksbaseball8]

Reeder (oakwood) Baldwin Wallace

[Tdog67]

I think you guys are missing the biggest player of the year in the SWBL. Christian Mcelroy of Monroe had a 72% offer from Ohio State and eventually went to Univ of Cincinnati on a 81% offer. He was consistently throwing 92 at the end of the year and in the local all-star game. In 3 years he will be drafted barring major injury and he is just now learning how to pitch after being mostly a catcher.

[viking08]

I think you guys are missing the biggest player of the year in the SWBL. Christian Mcelroy of Monroe had a 72% offer from Ohio State and eventually went to Univ of Cincinnati on a 81% offer. He was consistently throwing 92 at the end of the year and in the local all-star game. In 3 years he will be drafted barring major injury and he is just now learning how to pitch after being mostly a catcher.

Good call!

[swbl478]

I think you guys are missing the biggest player of the year in the SWBL. Christian Mcelroy of Monroe had a 72% offer from Ohio State and eventually went to Univ of Cincinnati on a 81% offer. He was consistently throwing 92 at the end of the year and in the local all-star game. In 3 years he will be drafted barring major injury and he is just now learning how to pitch after being mostly a catcher.

Thanks for the information. He played in the other division and I never saw him pitch.