Suburban league

[cman33]

Wadsworth will win this no doubt, they have a strong senior and junior class, and a new headcoach. with these factors there is no competition.

[kzr0]

Copley, Tallmadge and Barberton all will have a say so in that. Copley is an improved team over last years 15 or so wins team and trust me Calahan will be loaded for bear.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

:laugh:

Couldn't have seen this coming...

cman33 has called for SLT's for Wadsworth soccer, football, and basketball now... All in the last 3 days!
Wadsworth soccer is already out of it. With a 2-0 loss to Highland they are done... We will see how long football stays undefeated in the SL :rolleyes:

As for Basketball... Barberton and Tallmadge are the early frontrunners IMO...

[kman44]

I personally agree that Wadsworth will be on top of the Suburban League in basketball. Schmeltzer brings a new style that opponents won't be used to and with a strong junior and senior class they will definitely make some noise.

[hs sports fan]

Barberton, Copley, and Wadsworth are the 3 favorites IMO. If Tallmadge can get good guard play to help Mays and Householder, they will be in the mix as well.

[cman33]

This isn't even close wadsworth, and there hot new coach, will run away witht the league this year.

[SLeagueWads]

Schmeltzer is not experienced enough to lead this Wadsworth team to a SL title. Trust me. Callaghan will find a way to beat Wadsworth twice this year and I agree with Tallmadge and Barberton atop the Suburban League.

[kman44]

Schmeltzer may not have the experience, but he has the ability to tap into the minds of his players to motivate them more than past coaches could.

[magics89]

This isn't even close wadsworth, and there hot new coach, will run away witht the league this year.

I'm assuming that this a joke posting. Nobody in there right mind could possibly think this way. Wadsworth will be ok, a little better than last year maybe, but they will certainly not finish higher than Tallmadge or Barberton.

[icabod]

One... No team in the Suburban League will run away with the title this year....Second, calling Schmeltzer hot?????? Is this Yappi or Maxim for Women?

[Wad002]

WAIT WAIT WAIT! All this talk of Smeltzer is premature! He could not even have the best record when he coached jv boys. (he did great with girls), on the boys side he was always getting beat by Barberton and Green. Look up the old records!

[magics89]

I also think Green will be a team that could surprise some people this year.

[wadsgriz1212]

Wadsworth will have the best backcourt in the league in my opinion with sheppard and baughman--two studs who can score from anywhere . One problem i can see with this year is consistency for wadsworth. I believe baughman may already be out for a portion of the season, and I don't know how deep they truly are

[CopleyPride]

Copley, Tallmadge, and Barberton will be in the run for the top in the SL. Callaghan will do GREAT things for Copley. The Wadsworth/Copley game will be a full house. Can't Wait!

[kzr0]

Wadsworth will have the best backcourt in the league in my opinion with sheppard and baughman--two studs who can score from anywhere . One problem i can see with this year is consistency for wadsworth. I believe baughman may already be out for a portion of the season, and I don't know how deep they truly are

Best Backcourt:shrug:

[SLeagueWads]

Copley, Tallmadge, and Barberton will be in the run for the top in the SL. Callaghan will do GREAT things for Copley. The Wadsworth/Copley game will be a full house. Can't Wait!

I cannot wait to go to that game. Callaghan is going to triangle sheppard and baughman as Wadsworth struggles. I see Copley winning both matchups.

[msd1300]

What inside presence will Wadsworth have? They have two good guards, that is it. They will have trouble with Barberton, Copley, and especially Tallmadge with Mays and Householder. They will be lucky to take fourth in the league this year.

[hs sports fan]

What inside presence will Wadsworth have? They have two good guards, that is it. They will have trouble with Barberton, Copley, and especially Tallmadge with Mays and Householder. They will be lucky to take fourth in the league this year.

What newcomers will contirbute for Tallmadge this year?

[HoopHound]

Suburban Rosters (as submitted to me last season).
Some, not all, transfers included... grade levels updated. Advise any corrections.

Barberton Magics
'07-'08 Retuning Starters...
G Daryle Duncan # 21 5'8 / Sr.
F Jacob North #34 6'3 / Jr.
F Jacob Browning #44 6'3 / Sr.

Bench
G Jason Giovaninni # 32 5'10 / Sr.
G Clinton Hummel #25 5'11 / Sr.
F Garrick Sims #31 6'3 / Sr.
F David Cambell #41 6'0 / Sr.

Starters lost... Calhoun & Pitts
Seniors lost... Above as well as Hess & Goodwin
************************************************** ********
Copley Indians
'07-'08 Returning Starters...
G Elliot Brown 6'2" Sr.
G Steven Hightower 6'2" Sr.

Bench
G Martel Durant 5'10" Jr.
G Bryce Gathagan 5'10" Jr.
G Brian Ruhaak 5'10" Jr.
G DeLon Evans 5'11" Sr.
G Nick Townes 5'11" So.
G Marlon Oden 5'10" So.
G Phil Ellis 5'11" Jr.
C Rob Moss 6'4" Sr.
C Jamie Schoenewald 6'2" Jr.
F Terrel Hill 6'0" So.
F Alex Szalay 6'3" So.

Starters lost... Coon and Smith (only 4 starters names were submitted)
Seniors lost... same
************************************************** ********
HIGHLAND (Medina)
'07-'08 Returning Starters...
F Nick Knerem 6'2 Sr.

Bench
G Tony Faciana 5'9 Sr.
G Justin Philips 5'9 Sr.
F Nick Boardman 6'0 Sr.
F Asa Philips 6'2 Jr.
F Alex Vandenberg 6'2 Sr.

Starters lost... Avena, Webel, Brooker, Florian
Seniors lost... above as well as Pierce and Singer
************************************************** ********
Revere Minutemen
'07-'08 Returning Starters...
G D.J. Bettinger 5'6" So.
G Ameer Elbuluck 5'11" Sr.
G Zack Weidrick 6'0" Sr.

Bench
G/F John Gailbraith 6'2" Jr.
G Adam Richards 5'11" Jr.
F Dan Steinkerchner 6'2" Jr.

Starters lost... Kessler, Weeks (transfer)
Seniors lost... Kessler, as well as Jones, Holtkamp, Ellsworth, Addison
************************************************** ********
Tallmadge Blue Devils
'07-'08 Returning Starters...
F Ed Householder 6'6 Sr.
C Jake Mays 6'9 Sr.

Bench
G Matt Keen 5'10 Sr.
G Craig Siesel 5'8 Sr.
F Kevin Kollar 6'5 Sr.

Starters lost... Wooldridge, Martin, Lampley
Seniors lost... above as well as DiFalco, Strand, Pakan, Bezbatchenko
************************************************** ********
Unfortunately, nobody from Wadsworth or Cloverleaf bothered to submit a roster anytime last season. :( :dang:

[SLeagueWads]

What inside presence will Wadsworth have? They have two good guards, that is it. They will have trouble with Barberton, Copley, and especially Tallmadge with Mays and Householder. They will be lucky to take fourth in the league this year.

They do have Schrock, if he is healthy.

[Bucky]

Funny how none of these rosters list any incoming freshman. Don't know any? Barberton won the league on every boys level last year. Won't none of the freshman/soph start this year?

[kzr0]

Barberton did not win at every level. The JV's finsihed like 12-8. They did win Varsity, Freshman and eighth grade. I do not know about seventh, however their eighth grade team lost one player to ST V and another went down with a major injury in football. As for a sophomore or Freshman starting varsity I would say no. Only one Freshman played JV's last year and that was Josh North. The two sophomores that could see varsity time outside of North is Brasiel and James. With losing only four players from last years team and part time Varsity players last year ( Hummel, Palmer, Culbertson) moving up there might not be too much room at the top.

[FootsWalker]

Kz- FWIW- Neither of Btown's 7th gr teams were very strong, although they will be much better when they combine in 2 yrs. Copley 7th gr went 17-0 last yr, with Green coming in 2nd.

[HoopHound]

Funny how none of these rosters list any incoming freshman. Don't know any? Barberton won the league on every boys level last year. Won't none of the freshman/soph start this year?

If you know 'em... list 'em. :shrug:

Sheesh... took me a half hour to dig that up, update and post it... and you're biotching that there aren't any frosh listed?? :wallbang:

I'll be expecting a FULL list of every freshman roster from you as soon as the teams are formed in a month or so. :cool:

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Thanks HH...

As of right now I would see this years starting lineup looking something like this for Highland...
PG-Faciana
CG-Guenther
F-J. Phillips
F-Knerem
F-A. Phillips
---
F-Boardman
F-Vandenburg
PG-Tien
F-Brooker
F-Serafin

Obviously no expectations for this team... That might not be a bad thing? :shrug: Asa Phillips showed some good signs of improvement in the post, and is taller then last year. Justin Phillips has really been hitting the gym hard, wouldn't be shocked if he surprised some people this year (3-Point threat). Finally, I see Guenther really coming around this year. He can hit from 3, and has size and speed to be a lockdown defender at the off-guard spot. Tien and Brooker are both guys who should play increased rolls as the year goes on.

This team will probably get a late start with a full team practicing... Both Hornets soccer and football look poised for a deep playoff run. Tien (soccer), and Knerem and Serafin (football) would be affected here.

Last years Highland JV roster
http://hornetathletics.olinesports.com/
10 Stephen Tien SO 5'7" 120 PG

12 Tony Faciana JR 5'9" 140 PG

14 Brandon Hissong SO 5'9" 140 G

20 Alex Crider SO 5'9" 135 G

22 Alex Ciphers JR 6'2" 160 F

24 Jerrod Serafin SO 6' 170 F

30 Brennan Brooker SO 6'2" 160 F

32 Grant Guenther SO 6'1" 150 G

34 Frank Marcheggiani JR 5'11" 180 F

40 Joe Demczuk SO 6' 165 F

42 Alex Vandenberg JR 6'2" 180 F

44 James Herold JR 5'11" 190 G/F

50 Anthony Petrilla SO 5'8" 135 PG

52 Sean Corradi JR 5'11" 160 G

[hs sports fan]

Thanks HH...

As of right now I would see this years starting lineup looking something like this for Highland...
PG-Faciana
CG-Guenther
F-J. Phillips
F-Knerem
F-A. Phillips
---
F-Boardman
F-Vandenburg
PG-Tien
F-Brooker
F-Serafin

Obviously no expectations for this team... That might not be a bad thing? :shrug: Asa Phillips showed some good signs of improvement in the post, and is taller then last year. Justin Phillips has really been hitting the gym hard, wouldn't be shocked if he surprised some people this year (3-Point threat). Finally, I see Guenther really coming around this year. He can hit from 3, and has size and speed to be a lockdown defender at the off-guard spot. Tien and Brooker are both guys who should play increased rolls as the year goes on.

This team will probably get a late start with a full team practicing... Both Hornets soccer and football look poised for a deep playoff run. Tien (soccer), and Knerem and Serafin (football) would be affected here.

Last years Highland JV roster
http://hornetathletics.olinesports.com/
10 Stephen Tien SO 5'7" 120 PG

12 Tony Faciana JR 5'9" 140 PG

14 Brandon Hissong SO 5'9" 140 G

20 Alex Crider SO 5'9" 135 G

22 Alex Ciphers JR 6'2" 160 F

24 Jerrod Serafin SO 6' 170 F

30 Brennan Brooker SO 6'2" 160 F

32 Grant Guenther SO 6'1" 150 G

34 Frank Marcheggiani JR 5'11" 180 F

40 Joe Demczuk SO 6' 165 F

42 Alex Vandenberg JR 6'2" 180 F

44 James Herold JR 5'11" 190 G/F

50 Anthony Petrilla SO 5'8" 135 PG

52 Sean Corradi JR 5'11" 160 G

I take it the rumor I heard of sophomore John Alexander transferring to Highland from Hoban was false?

[wadsgriz1212]

I'm pretty sure Alexander is at Highland and should obv be starting then...not positive on this but even with him Highland won't have much of anything this year...maybe in the future though

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I graduated last year so I'm not as updated on who is roaming the halls of Highland. I'm not firmilar with Alexander, who is he (a center I hope ;))

[HoopHound]

I graduated last year so I'm not as updated on who is roaming the halls of Highland. I'm not firmilar with Alexander, who is he (a center I hope ;))

Not 100% sure... but I believe he's a guard, OBF.

[parentbball]

Not 100% sure... but I believe he's a guard, OBF.

John Alexander will be the starting point guard, bringing a lot of energy and athleticism. He alone will not make this team into a winner, but he will probably be the best guy on the floor for the Hornets.

[Wadsworth147]

Wadsworth will have Schrock and Nick kennel who is a beast down low. Nick is 6'4 and about 230 pounds of pure muscle. Wadsworth will definateley contend for the title this year.

[msd1300]

Wadsworth will have Schrock and Nick kennel who is a beast down low. Nick is 6'4 and about 230 pounds of pure muscle. Wadsworth will definateley contend for the title this year.


Is this kid new? I dont recall a 6'4" 230 beast down low last year for Wadsworth?

[OhioBobcatFan06]

John Alexander will be the starting point guard, bringing a lot of energy and athleticism. He alone will not make this team into a winner, but he will probably be the best guy on the floor for the Hornets.
Thanks for the info...

One player definitely won't shape this team. A good PG will help this team out though. If the guys I mentioned can improve off of last year this team should hopefully improve on the W-L totals of last year... Hopefully enough to keep the 8th graders here.... :stirthepot:

[rcal14]

Wadsworth will win this no doubt, they have a strong senior and junior class, and a new headcoach. with these factors there is no competition.

slow down there cman!!! Green hung the worst home defeat in Wadsworth history on you last year ( 41 points!!!) and we were a middle of the road team- a coach will not make that much of a difference- I have to go with Tallmadge,Barberton and Copley ahead of Wadsworth

[hs sports fan]

Who does Tallmadge have besides Mays and Householder that will put them in contention for the league tittle? I think they will be good, but I don't see them being up there with Barberton for sure. Copley and Wadsworth also have a lot more back than Tallmadge.

[wadsgriz1212]

I'd go with this for a preseason prediction...

1. Barberton
2. Wadsworth/Tallmadge
4. Copley
5. Green
6. Revere
7. Cloverleaf
8. Highland

Barberton is the most athletic team with the most scoring threats in my opinion. Wadsworth will have great scoring in the backcourt from Sheppard and Baughman(Schrock is questionable due to his miniscus i believe and kinel didn't play last year). Tallmadge will have a great inside game with householder and mays. And Copley will have hightower and elliot brown. Also look out for Revere. They return some experience among weidrick, ellsworth, and their point guard...I believe his first name is Amere (sp?) if he is recovered from his soccer injury. I'm not aware of any other threats in the league this year. If anyone else has any information that would be helpful.

[wadsgriz1212]

** that should be Kennel (Nick Kennel)...not kinel as i originally posted

[hs sports fan]

Also look out for Revere. They return some experience among weidrick, ellsworth, and their point guard...I believe his first name is Amere (sp?) if he is recovered from his soccer injury. I'm not aware of any other threats in the league this year. If anyone else has any information that would be helpful.

I believe Ellsworth was a senior last year. Ameer Elbuluck is back, as well as sophomore PG D.J. Bettinger.

[stretch33]

Green may surprise a few teams this year. They always do!

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I believe Ellsworth was a senior last year. Ameer Elbuluck is back, as well as sophomore PG D.J. Bettinger.
You are correct about Todd Ellsworth, he graduated last year.

[tallmadge H2 dad]

Wadsworth will have Schrock and Nick kennel who is a beast down low. Nick is 6'4 and about 230 pounds of pure muscle. Wadsworth will definateley contend for the title this year.

How do you know if he is a beast down low if he didn't even play last year?Big and strong does not neccesarily equal good basketball player...

[colts02']

as a fan i've been so wrapped up in watching the football team i totally forgot about our winter programs. With the loss of the all mighty god Parker Hewitt how will the colts look to win? any one from the leaf got some insight?

[Laker]

How do you know if he is a beast down low if he didn't even play last year?Big and strong does not neccesarily equal good basketball player...


I wouldn't say he's anything until he plays significant minutes. He saw some time as a freshman on varsity and didn't play last year. Started as a sophomore on the football team and didn't play this year.

He's big but far from solid muscle!

[grifferforlife]

I did see them last year and this year is going to be an avg year. If you all think getting rid of Cal or the new hire was smart, I got a steak dinner for anyone who proves me wrong about finishing in the top 3. I mean that for real. Keep my post and if I am right, I like my steak well done. This thread is :wallbang: :shrug: :confused: all in one

[wadsgriz1212]

I do not believe getting rid of Cal was a smart move, but my prediction was based simply on the fact that A. they return practically all of their scoring (Sheppard and Baughman) and B. i graduated from wadsworth so i gotta root for the home team. Also I think the league is relatively empty this year besides barberton and the big boys from tallmadge (which i seeded both equal or above wadsworth). If anyone has anymore information, once again, i'd be interested

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I wouldn't be shocked if Wadsworth finishes 3... I mean I think Barberton and Tallmadge are above them, but who else?

[Contested3]

Good work to all people trying to dig up rosters in the Suburban League. But it is difficult to predict Freshmen and JV players that will contribute on the varsity level.

However, I am particularly interested in the possible line-ups for Green and Tallmadge. I know that Tallmadge's JV was 19-1 last year. They have the big kids returning, but can anyone predict who their other core players will be at the varsity level?

As for Green, I don't know much about their returning players. Any information would be useful.

[seahawks4life]

alexander of highland will start season as pg


also faciana will be suspended the first two games as well as mark-a-johnny

[OhioBobcatFan06]

alexander of highland will start season as pg


also faciana will be suspended the first two games as well as mark-a-johnny
Maybe I will get this sometime tomorrow, I am in the process of righting (:laugh: EDIT: "writing," I really am this tired, saved for the sake of humor) a 7+ page essay and I'm blanking out.... But care to elaborate of who that is?

[seahawks4life]

Maybe I will get this sometime tomorrow, I am in the process of righting (:laugh: EDIT: "writing," I really am this tired, saved for the sake of humor) a 7+ page essay and I'm blanking out.... But care to elaborate of who that is?

34 Frank Marcheggiani JR 5'11" 180 F

as a highland grad you should know this

[OhioBobcatFan06]

34 Frank Marcheggiani JR 5'11" 180 F

as a highland grad you should know this
:laugh:
Yes I should've.

I'm finishing this essay and sleeping. 8 A.M. math exam, wish me well yappians! I'll talk SL hoops tomorrow..

[HoopHound]

:laugh:
Yes I should've.

I'm finishing this essay and sleeping. 8 A.M. math exam, wish me well yappians! I'll talk SL hoops tomorrow..

Didn't anybody ever tell you to NEVER take an 8am class in college, OBF????? :wallbang:

What kinda friends you got anyway????? :shrug:

[PeterGammons]

Regarding Alexander: He no question is a great asset to the basketball team-no doubt-but saying he will be the best on the floor?? Are you serious? He has a shot worse than this kid I used to play with in the park; only knew him by M.Strubes.

But seriously...can u say "air-balls free throws"?

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Didn't anybody ever tell you to NEVER take an 8am class in college, OBF????? :wallbang:

What kinda friends you got anyway????? :shrug:
:blush:
I tried Hoop! They give freshman the bottom of the barrel when it comes to picking classes. I really wouldn't even mind it too much if it wasn't calculus. :help:

Regarding Alexander: He no question is a great asset to the basketball team-no doubt-but saying he will be the best on the floor?? Are you serious? He has a shot worse than this kid I used to play with in the park; only knew him by M.Strubes.

But seriously...can u say "air-balls free throws"?
:laugh:
Who needs a shoot?? It's all about the "drive and dish..." And free throws of course, especially in the park where the play down low can be categorized as "dirty," at best. Really a great compliment when used together, the drive and dish and free throw excellence; as the legendary Strubs has shown.

If Mr. Alexander has one and not the other... :eek: It just wouldn't flow. ;)

[seahawks4life]

Regarding Alexander: He no question is a great asset to the basketball team-no doubt-but saying he will be the best on the floor?? Are you serious? He has a shot worse than this kid I used to play with in the park; only knew him by M.Strubes.

But seriously...can u say "air-balls free throws"?

this is true alexander doesnt have a shot by any means.... no1 from highland really does either so drive and dish wont work.....tien and others are all streaky shooters

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I don't know about that... J. Phillips is going to be a breakout player this year behind the arc... Grant Guenther is another one, I'm calling a huge year for him.

I don't know, Highland success all really depends what the team is able to do defensively IMO... And if they can play a full game instead of the brief spells of a solid team that we saw last year. No expectations, some potential; should be an interesting year.

[seahawks4life]

I don't know about that... J. Phillips is going to be a breakout player this year behind the arc... Grant Guenther is another one, I'm calling a huge year for him.

I don't know, Highland success all really depends what the team is able to do defensively IMO... And if they can play a full game instead of the brief spells of a solid team that we saw last year. No expectations, some potential; should be an interesting year.

again streaky shooters as well.. and "guns" guenther is not gonna be the player they want shooting threes but i agree that that guenter will have a great season along with asa... on another note if justin phillips has a breakout season it will be because of his defense and hustle that will translate to him scoring

[PeterGammons]

But all this talk of lacking a shooter and flashiness seems to be Kestners style-layups and playing "dirty"-so like everyone else has said-its going to be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

There has also been talk of a freshman who may have what it takes to come off the bench-and I don't want to say make an impact; but make a difference.

[seahawks4life]

But all this talk of lacking a shooter and flashiness seems to be Kestners style-layups and playing "dirty"-so like everyone else has said-its going to be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

There has also been talk of a freshman who may have what it takes to come off the bench-and I don't want to say make an impact; but make a difference.

HIGHLAND PLAYERS WILL ALWAYS BE TOO WEAK AND SCARED OF PLAYING "DIRTY"

[rcal14]

Good work to all people trying to dig up rosters in the Suburban League. But it is difficult to predict Freshmen and JV players that will contribute on the varsity level.

However, I am particularly interested in the possible line-ups for Green and Tallmadge. I know that Tallmadge's JV was 19-1 last year. They have the big kids returning, but can anyone predict who their other core players will be at the varsity level?

As for Green, I don't know much about their returning players. Any information would be useful.

not exactly sure who will start but here are the top returning players from last year:

Adam Spray 5'9" guard senior
Chris Witmer 6'1" wing sophomore
David Gabrogge 6'2" wing senior
Ben Pollock 6'2" wing senior
Ryan Wilson 6'1" guard junior

also 6'2" post Curt Gamby is returning after taking off his sophomore season- he brings the only real bulk that we have

JV players moving up should be 6'3" post Colin Vielhaber and 6'1" guard Mike
Hardman

as always Green will be one of the top defensive teams in the SL- offensive output will determine whether they are a .500 team or a factor in the league

[On The Money]

As for the sophomores, Whitmer from Green and Alexander from Highland will make a difference. Whitmer is fun to watch. He is one of those kids who doesn't play with a lot of flash, but you look in the scorebook after the game and he has 18 points and 9 rebounds. He has great leaping ability as well. Alexander is a bundle of energy. Reports are accurate that he is not a great shooter, but he will help Highland. There was also an outstanding player on the freshman team last year at Barberton. Do not know his name, but he is fantastic shooter and athlete, and very difficult to defend. On a final note, I think Revere is the team to beat. They are young, but they have talent all over the floor.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

As for the sophomores, Whitmer from Green and Alexander from Highland will make a difference. Whitmer is fun to watch. He is one of those kids who doesn't play with a lot of flash, but you look in the scorebook after the game and he has 18 points and 9 rebounds. He has great leaping ability as well. Alexander is a bundle of energy. Reports are accurate that he is not a great shooter, but he will help Highland. There was also an outstanding player on the freshman team last year at Barberton. Do not know his name, but he is fantastic shooter and athlete, and very difficult to defend. On a final note, I think Revere is the team to beat. They are young, but they have talent all over the floor.
Last I heard Wills transfered out of Revere, can't see them winning it without him.

[seahawks4life]

As for the sophomores, Whitmer from Green and Alexander from Highland will make a difference. Whitmer is fun to watch. He is one of those kids who doesn't play with a lot of flash, but you look in the scorebook after the game and he has 18 points and 9 rebounds. He has great leaping ability as well. Alexander is a bundle of energy. Reports are accurate that he is not a great shooter, but he will help Highland. There was also an outstanding player on the freshman team last year at Barberton. Do not know his name, but he is fantastic shooter and athlete, and very difficult to defend. On a final note, I think Revere is the team to beat. They are young, but they have talent all over the floor.

revere lost their best player and wedreik isnt gonna do much either.. they are on the upper half of suburban but not better than wadsworth or barberton

[hs sports fan]

On a final note, I think Revere is the team to beat. They are young, but they have talent all over the floor.

Such as?

[kzr0]

Revere is a talented, younger team. They will be better than people say but not at the top yet. Even without Wills they will be tough the next year (2010). As for the freshman from Barberton, you are probably talking about Anthony Brasiel. Whitmer from Green is a pure shooter. I don't know about the 9 rebounds a game though. Gamby is the key to Green. Was the best player for Green's class of 2010 until injuries sidelined him. Probably scored 25 points a game in freshman ball before moving up to Jv then varsity.

[On The Money]

Last I heard Wills transfered out of Revere, can't see them winning it without him.

If you are referring to Will Weeks, I did not realize he had transfered. And yes, that certainly changes things for Revere.

[seahawks4life]

If you are referring to Will Weeks, I did not realize he had transfered. And yes, that certainly changes things for Revere.

will weeks did indeed transfer and i do not see them winng slt without them

[On The Money]

Such as?

Such as Will Weeks (who I am now told has transfered), D.J. Bettinger, John Gailbraith, Zac Weidrick, Adam Richards, Dan Steinkerchner, and none of those guys are seniors. They had at least 5 kids on the varsity last year that were freshmen or sophmores, and their JV and Freshman squads were still strong. They are deep. But if Weeks is gone, I agree they probably can't get it done. Any other big transfers in the offseason other than Weeks out of Revere and Alexander into Highland?

[SLeagueWads]

Wadsworth's best defender in Anthony Lorubbio is most likely out for this upcoming season.

[hs sports fan]

Such as Will Weeks (who I am now told has transfered), D.J. Bettinger, John Gailbraith, Zac Weidrick, Adam Richards, Dan Steinkerchner, and none of those guys are seniors. They had at least 5 kids on the varsity last year that were freshmen or sophmores, and their JV and Freshman squads were still strong. They are deep. But if Weeks is gone, I agree they probably can't get it done. Any other big transfers in the offseason other than Weeks out of Revere and Alexander into Highland?

Weidrick is a senior this year. You forgot senior Ameer Elbuluck. Here are their leading returning scorers:

Elbuluck- 11.6 ppg
Weidrick- 8.8 ppg
Gailbraith- 6.2 ppg
Bettinger- 4 ppg

Richards and Steinkercherner combined for 2 points last year. They have some talent, but saying "they have talent all over the floor" is a stretch when just 4 players with significant varsity experience return.

[HoopHound]

Wadsworth's best defender in Anthony Lorubbio is most likely out for this upcoming season.

Why? :confused:

[OhioBobcatFan06]

If you are referring to Will Weeks, I did not realize he had transfered. And yes, that certainly changes things for Revere.
I did mean Will Weeks... I'm pretty sure I had just been reading the XC board, where Mason's Zach Wills is a frontrunner to win a state title. :shrug: I'm getting up there in age...

Anyone know what kind of height Alexander brings to the table for Highland? This team could use a taller PG to cancel out the lack of height down low... Guenther at SG is probably 6-2
Knerem is 6-2 on the football roster.
J. Phillips at the other forward is around 6-0
A. Phillips in the post is 6-3 or 6-4.

This team has the potential to surprise... We shall see...

If Alexander is anything special, his Junior and Senior seasons could prove to be great as Highland brings up some talented bigs next year. :stirthepot: I keep saying 2013, one year away from feeling the effects. Hopefully they don't head to the parochial schools.

[seahawks4life]

I did mean Will Weeks... I'm pretty sure I had just been reading the XC board, where Mason's Zach Wills is a frontrunner to win a state title. :shrug: I'm getting up there in age...

Anyone know what kind of height Alexander brings to the table for Highland? This team could use a taller PG to cancel out the lack of height down low... Guenther at SG is probably 6-2
Knerem is 6-2 on the football roster.
J. Phillips at the other forward is around 6-0
A. Phillips in the post is 6-3 or 6-4.

This team has the potential to surprise... We shall see...

If Alexander is anything special, his Junior and Senior seasons could prove to be great as Highland brings up some talented bigs next year. :stirthepot: I keep saying 2013, one year away from feeling the effects. Hopefully they don't head to the parochial schools.



if your saying justin phillips is 6' then alexander is like 5'11"

not trying to but kestner will never produce another great team

[OhioBobcatFan06]

if your saying justin phillips is 6' then alexander is like 5'11"

not trying to but kestner will never produce another great team

Kestner runs an offense dependent on a good low post player... Give him one and he can do wonders.

[seahawks4life]

kestner doesnt run an offense at all what he calls an offense is no more than a sub par motion offense ..

[wadsgriz1212]

Anthony Lorubbio separated his shoulder in football this year, but I'm pretty sure he will be back for basketball...

[seahawks4life]

Anthony Lorubbio separated his shoulder in football this year, but I'm pretty sure he will be back for basketball...

he is gonna be out quite some time

[Contested3]

Thanks for Green's input, now can I get a quick update on Tallmadge? Like I said, I know about the two big kids, but what about the rest of the squad?

Thanks again for anyone with input.

[SLeagueWads]

he is gonna be out quite some time

Yeah his sports career is near an end. He hurt is ankle in the third game of the season his junior year. Now he is recovered, and does something else that ruins his senior year in football and probably his year in basketball. Gotta feel bad for him.

[SuburbanLeague223]

Highlands Starting Lineup could look something like this..

PG- John Alexander- SO- 5'9- Transfered back to Highland from Hoban. Great ball handler, penetrator, and finisher.
SG- Justin Phillips- SR- 5'10- 3-Point Threat!
F- Grant Guenther- JR- 6'2- Solid all around scorer
F- Nick Knerem- SR- 6'2- 3-year varsity starter
C- Asa Phillips- JR- 6'3-Great strides since last season and should have a really good year.

Coming off the bench..

PG- Tony Faciana- SR- 5'9- (Suspended first 2 games)
F- Alex Ciphers- SR- 6'3 (Has the talent to start, but coaches question his dedication. But i hear he has been attending all the conditionings and everything)
F/C- Alex Vandenberg- SR- 6'2
F- James Herold- SR- 6'1
G- Steve Tien- JR- 5'8
G- Alex Crider- JR- 5'10
F- Jerrod Serafin- JR- 6'2
F- Frank Marcheggiani- SR- 6'0 (Suspended first 2 games)
F- Nick Boardman- SR- 6'2

[PeterGammons]

HIGHLAND PLAYERS WILL ALWAYS BE TOO WEAK AND SCARED OF PLAYING "DIRTY"

true...but the freshman team this year is going to open eyes and do wonders when they are juniors and seniors for the program. Coaching staff may be different by then...

[SuburbanLeague223]

But all this talk of lacking a shooter and flashiness seems to be Kestners style-layups and playing "dirty"-so like everyone else has said-its going to be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

There has also been talk of a freshman who may have what it takes to come off the bench-and I don't want to say make an impact; but make a difference.

i have not heard of this freshman yet..

[seahawks4life]

true...but the freshman team this year is going to open eyes and do wonders when they are juniors and seniors for the program. Coaching staff may be different by then...

hahaha your brother doesnt count petergammons..lmao

[OhioBobcatFan06]

i have not heard of this freshman yet..
What about an 8th grader... :stirthepot:

[HoopHound]

Tallmadge...

PG-Matt Keen Sr.
SG-Craig Siesel Sr.
SF-Cory Armbruster/ Andrew Roy Sr./Sr.
PF-Ed Householder Sr.
C-Jake Mays Sr.

With the exception of Roy, all saw significant minutes last year on varsity with Mays and Householder leading the way.
Also, new transfer from Georgia will be the 6th man if I were to guess at this point.

Can you edit in some heights for those players, kjm?

[seahawks4life]

What about an 8th grader... :stirthepot:

what about them?

[SuburbanLeague223]

What about an 8th grader... :stirthepot:

haha yes i have. lets just hope austin stays at highland

[hs sports fan]

Tallmadge...

PG-Matt Keen Sr.
SG-Craig Siesel Sr.
SF-Cory Armbruster/ Andrew Roy Sr./Sr.
PF-Ed Householder Sr.
C-Jake Mays Sr.

With the exception of Roy, all saw significant minutes last year on varsity with Mays and Householder leading the way.
Also, new transfer from Georgia will be the 6th man if I were to guess at this point.

Armbruster saw significant minutes last year? He only scored 1 point on the season. Keen and Seisel only combined to score 35 points last year. It seems as if they will need at least 1 of these players to pick their scoring up to complement Mays and Householder.

[seahawks4life]

is no one watching wadsworth... they are quietly creating a solid team

[HoopHound]

...HoopHound...I edited in some heights for ya.

Thanks, KJ... it makes it a LOT easier for those of us "outside the loop" of you SL folks!! :)

[PeterGammons]

will weeks did indeed transfer and i do not see them winng slt without them

He was on the 4th team or honorable mention (do not recall) on Rise's Top NEO basketball players....and as a sophmore///big loss

[seahawks4life]

anyone know where he actually transferred too?!!?

[HoopHound]

anyone know where he actually transferred too?!!?

I wouldn't bet the farm on it... but I believe it was Garfield Hts.

[seahawks4life]

I wouldn't bet the farm on it... but I believe it was Garfield Hts.

if it was i'd really like to see how he does there ... might not even be varsity...

[SuburbanLeague223]

if it was i'd really like to see how he does there ... might not even be varsity...

I disagree. Weeks will definitely be on varsity. and this is a big loss for revere.

[HoopHound]

if it was i'd really like to see how he does there ... might not even be varsity...

I know they're LOADED... but he'll be varsity, and see planty of PT. Might start. Saw him twice last year. If he fills out a little more, you may see him in the running for Mr. Basketball some day.

He's a stud, and I don't think he'd be going to GH unless he had a more than even chance of starting.

[seahawks4life]

I know they're LOADED... but he'll be varsity, and see planty of PT. Might start. Saw him twice last year. If he fills out a little more, you may see him in the running for Mr. Basketball some day.

He's a stud, and I don't think he'd be going to GH unless he had a more than even chance of starting.

still i saw 4 games with him playing and two of them were against highland so its kinda un-fair to judge those performances...but true..why transfer if your not gonna get playing time....but he's def. not the star anymore

his senior year i cant wait to see how he gets recruited him and nick kellogg of colombus deSales are the two best players of there grade... as kellogg has already been recruited by osu his freshman year

[aauplayer]

still i saw 4 games with him playing and two of them were against highland so its kinda un-fair to judge those performances...but true..why transfer if your not gonna get playing time....but he's def. not the star anymore

his senior year i cant wait to see how he gets recruited him and nick kellogg of colombus deSales are the two best players of there grade... as kellogg has already been recruited by osu his freshman year

Kellogg is part of the junior class and is not even being recruited by OSU as the 2010 class already has 5 kids committed and there is no room unless they get Payne from Dayton.

Weeks is a very good player who has cintinued to develop and has gotten stronger. Could be one of the top players in the 2011 class by the time he is finished.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

GH is LOADED. But Weeks is a stud, and while he may not start this year, he will get some time... And lets not forget he will go up against some VERY good players everyday in practice, that will help improve his game loads......

[seahawks4life]

Kellogg is part of the junior class and is not even being recruited by OSU as the 2010 class already has 5 kids committed and there is no room unless they get Payne from Dayton.

Weeks is a very good player who has cintinued to develop and has gotten stronger. Could be one of the top players in the 2011 class by the time he is finished.

your right i forgot kellogg was a junior.. but he is in fact being recruited by osu.. i know that is correct

[seahawks4life]

GH is LOADED. But Weeks is a stud, and while he may not start this year, he will get some time... And lets not forget he will go up against some VERY good players everyday in practice, that will help improve his game loads......

rumor has it that dj also transferred to GH...dont know how true that is

[wadsgriz1212]

It sounds like turmoil has sprung up in grizzly town...rumor has it that Alan Sheppard did ligament damage to his hand and could be out for substantial time; accordingly, chad baughman is questionably not playing? This didn't make much sense to me, but what did humor me was that he was supposedly playing for a wadsworth high school intramural team that could give a lot of varsity teams in the SL a run for their money lmao

any truth to any of these rumors? If any of these are true, the grizzlies could potentially be without Schrock, Baughman, and Sheppard for the first part of the season, and I would see them falling to the bottom of the SL at that point

[HoopHound]

rumor has it that dj also transferred to GH...dont know how true that is

Who's "dj"?

[seahawks4life]

Who's "dj"?

revere sophomore played varsity last year...real talent ... scored 50 points in an 8th grade game

[HoopHound]

revere sophomore played varsity last year...real talent ... scored 50 points in an 8th grade game

What's his name???

No rule against stating it... we're talkin' about his hoop playin'... NOT his personal life. :)

[PeterGammons]

It sounds like turmoil has sprung up in grizzly town...rumor has it that Alan Sheppard did ligament damage to his hand and could be out for substantial time; accordingly, chad baughman is questionably not playing? This didn't make much sense to me, but what did humor me was that he was supposedly playing for a wadsworth high school intramural team that could give a lot of varsity teams in the SL a run for their money lmao

any truth to any of these rumors? If any of these are true, the grizzlies could potentially be without Schrock, Baughman, and Sheppard for the first part of the season, and I would see them falling to the bottom of the SL at that point

That could spell disaster for them...big time. So is the only reason that Chad B. didn't play jv as a freshman because thats how Wads does things or was he not good enough. IMO he should have been playing jv and that in return could have paid dividends to his experience and his playing time wouldn't be questioned right now..

[OhioBobcatFan06]

What's his name???

No rule against stating it... we're talkin' about his hoop playin'... NOT his personal life. :)
I believe he is talking about DJ Bettinger, but I could be wrong.

[seahawks4life]

I believe he is talking about DJ Bettinger, but I could be wrong.

yeah it is... your correct bobcat...

[wadsgriz1212]

That could spell disaster for them...big time. So is the only reason that Chad B. didn't play jv as a freshman because thats how Wads does things or was he not good enough. IMO he should have been playing jv and that in return could have paid dividends to his experience and his playing time wouldn't be questioned right now..

Right, tradition is why Chad B. did not play jv as a freshman imo...he averaged around 30 ppg on the freshman team, but experience and playing time is not necessarily the reason he might not be playing I wouldn't think since he was the top scorer (I believe?) last year and played about 90% of every game his sophomore and junior years. That's why this news came as such a surprise to me

[kzr0]

Thats to bad. I hate to see any kid get hurt, especially their senior year. I heard Baughman is only out 3-4 games. What's happening with Shrock? Didn't he play the last football game against Copley?

[seahawks4life]

Right, tradition is why Chad B. did not play jv as a freshman imo...he averaged around 30 ppg on the freshman team, but experience and playing time is not necessarily the reason he might not be playing I wouldn't think since he was the top scorer (I believe?) last year and played about 90% of every game his sophomore and junior years. That's why this news came as such a surprise to me

i completely agree as he could easily dunk and averaged in the high 20's during the season... tradition..but since then freshamn have played jv whihc sucks for chad b/c he was better as a fresh than they were

[StreetsBB330]

It sounds like turmoil has sprung up in grizzly town...rumor has it that Alan Sheppard did ligament damage to his hand and could be out for substantial time; accordingly, chad baughman is questionably not playing? This didn't make much sense to me, but what did humor me was that he was supposedly playing for a wadsworth high school intramural team that could give a lot of varsity teams in the SL a run for their money lmao

any truth to any of these rumors? If any of these are true, the grizzlies could potentially be without Schrock, Baughman, and Sheppard for the first part of the season, and I would see them falling to the bottom of the SL at that point

Rumor has it that Sheppard only has a stoved finger and was seen shooting in the gym on Weds. Shrock will only miss 2 weeks due to surgery and who knows what's going on with Baughman?

[thehasbeen95]

Even though Garfield Hts is loaded it won't really make a difference because I believe Sonny has Will Weeks starting in his rotation. their bench will be bigger than their starters thats for sure. Weeks will start at the 3 along with Carl jones at point and 6'8 Mario Hines in the middle. their bench has two 6'8 kids and another 6'7.

[seahawks4life]

Even though Garfield Hts is loaded it won't really make a difference because I believe Sonny has Will Weeks starting in his rotation. their bench will be bigger than their starters thats for sure. Weeks will start at the 3 along with Carl jones at point and 6'8 Mario Hines in the middle. their bench has two 6'8 kids and another 6'7.

wahts your point?

[Wadsworth147]

It sounds like turmoil has sprung up in grizzly town...rumor has it that Alan Sheppard did ligament damage to his hand and could be out for substantial time; accordingly, chad baughman is questionably not playing? This didn't make much sense to me, but what did humor me was that he was supposedly playing for a wadsworth high school intramural team that could give a lot of varsity teams in the SL a run for their money lmao

any truth to any of these rumors? If any of these are true, the grizzlies could potentially be without Schrock, Baughman, and Sheppard for the first part of the season, and I would see them falling to the bottom of the SL at that point

Baughman is playing, but he is out for the first 4 games.

[seahawks4life]

Baughman is playing, but he is out for the first 4 games.

what for?

[Akron 3Baller]

Why would the Bettiger kid transfer to GH? Best friends with Weeks? I fund that hard to believe.

I will say that he destroyed us (Highland) last year and I saw him do the same against Wadsworth at Revere with five or six threes in the first half. And I HAVE heard that he grew about 5 or 6 inches since last year and is almost dunking!

[seahawks4life]

Why would the Bettiger kid transfer to GH? Best friends with Weeks? I fund that hard to believe.

I will say that he destroyed us (Highland) last year and I saw him do the same against Wadsworth at Revere with five or six threes in the first half. And I HAVE heard that he grew about 5 or 6 inches since last year and is almost dunking!

re-read your second paragraph and that is the reason my friend...plus wouldnt you want the chance to play at GH rather than revere

[Laker]

what for?

4 games = 20% of season. Coincidence?

[seahawks4life]

4 games = 20% of season. Coincidence?

that tells me nothing..why is he missing 20% of the season?

break team rules, injury...what??

[SLeagueWads]

that tells me nothing..why is he missing 20% of the season?

break team rules, injury...what??

Word today that Baughman is out for the complete season. Reliable source.

[seahawks4life]

Word today that Baughman is out for the complete season. Reliable source.

FOR WHAT?!?!

THE QUESTION IS WHY IS HE OUT FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME?!?!

[111411]

FOR WHAT?!?!

THE QUESTION IS WHY IS HE OUT FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME?!?!

Try PMs, gentlemen. I've edited several posts.

[seahawks4life]

Try PMs, gentlemen. I've edited several posts.

instead of editing how bout you jst answer my question straight up??

[111411]

instead of editing how bout you jst answer my question straight up??

Rumors about athletes are not to be placed on the forums unless a link is provided. Until a link can be provided, keep the information off the forum. Crystal clear?

[SLeagueWads]

This is not a rumor. Chad Baughman is done for the '08-'09 basketball season. Official.

[seahawks4life]

This is not a rumor. Chad Baughman is done for the '08-'09 basketball season. Official.

uh for what?!?!

[slfan1]

Does it really matter? Why do you need to know more details? He is done for reasons you really don't need to know.

[Wadsworth147]

This is not a rumor. Chad Baughman is done for the '08-'09 basketball season. Official.

He is done for the season. I won't go into details either for the sake of him, but all I will say is that he got into trouble in school while he was on the zero-tolerance policy.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

:eek:

That doesn't sound good...

[seahawks4life]

He is done for the season. I won't go into details either for the sake of him, but all I will say is that he got into trouble in school while he was on the zero-tolerance policy.

thank you thats all i asked of...but 4 games make smore since

[wadsgriz1212]

He was already suspended for four games before getting into trouble again. This is what led to his season long suspension...not looking good at all for the grizzlies this year now

[parentbball]

Baughman is really tough, and if he does not play that is a major loss for the Grizzlies. If that is really true, kudo's to the coaches and school for having the courage to do this, but I've seen so many times where rumors like this swirl, but in the end the player is allowed back, because winning is more important than learning.

[seahawks4life]

losing baughman maybe the biggest loss for wadsworth.. he , being one of their best if not the beast player

[bigblackattack]

Suburban League basketball is the reason why I live on this earth

[seahawks4life]

Suburban League basketball is the reason why I live on this earth

trudat big black...trudat

[StreetsBB330]

losing baughman maybe the biggest loss for wadsworth.. he , being one of their best if not the beast player


Seahawks LOL. Where do you get your info from? I think last year there were a few kids way more talented. Not saying that Baughman isn't a good player but hes by far not a "beast". With or without him Wadsworth still has depth. Schrock will muscle down low as much as he can and grab every board that he can. I seen it first hand last year. That kid is a hustler. And with the Medina County three point shoot-out winner as a junior, Sheppard will be lighting it up from outside.

:Party:

[seahawks4life]

Seahawks LOL. Where do you get your info from? I think last year there were a few kids way more talented. Not saying that Baughman isn't a good player but hes by far not a "beast". With or without him Wadsworth still has depth. Schrock will muscle down low as much as he can and grab every board that he can. I seen it first hand last year. That kid is a hustler. And with the Medina County three point shoot-out winner as a junior, Sheppard will be lighting it up from outside.

:Party:

i meant best and he is more of a beast than shrock will ever be..haha shrock even play last year??

i think not


and sheppard..hahahahahaha

[Wadsworth147]

i meant best and he is more of a beast than shrock will ever be..haha shrock even play last year??

i think not


and sheppard..hahahahahaha

you might just want to stop posting. I bet you don't really know who baughman is because you know nothing about Wadsworth. Shrock played all of last year, and Sheppard is just about as good as baughman.

[seahawks4life]

you might just want to stop posting. I bet you don't really know who baughman is because you know nothing about Wadsworth. Shrock played all of last year, and Sheppard is just about as good as baughman.

my mistake about shrock but i heard he didnt play last year


and your completley wrong man baughman is wayy better than sheppard

[kzr0]

Streetbb330 and wadsworth147 I agree that Sheperd is a pure shooter and Shrock is also good but don't sell Baughman short. The kid can play. He can create his own shot as well as anyone. If any of the post are true he WILL be missed. It is hard to replace a senior, especially a 15 point scorer. You had a freshman last year that started JV (name? )he will help pick up the slack on offense. Depth, yes. Experience, no. Also I thought Goddard had the most threes in Medina county last year, or are you talking about the senior All-Star game contest?

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

Seahawks LOL. Where do you get your info from? I think last year there were a few kids way more talented. Not saying that Baughman isn't a good player but hes by far not a "beast". With or without him Wadsworth still has depth. Schrock will muscle down low as much as he can and grab every board that he can. I seen it first hand last year. That kid is a hustler. And with the Medina County three point shoot-out winner as a junior, Sheppard will be lighting it up from outside.

:Party:

Well said StreetsBB. Baughman is a very good player but would've been a big distraction this year with all of his off court shenanigans. Schrock has another big man down low who right now no one in the leagues knows about. Now this kid's a beast! Wait until you see this kid! And, Shepherd no doubt will give teams alot of problems with his ability to create with or without the ball. Shepherd will pick up the Baughman slack. This should be an interesting season for the Grizzlies!

[theAdjuster17]

Can you edit in some heights for those players, kjm?

jake mays- huge

[seahawks4life]

Schrock has another big man down low who right now no one in the leagues knows about. Wait until you see this kid! And,

did he play last year or not?

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

did he play last year or not?

If you went to any Wadsworth games you would know if he played last year. So, since you need a history lesson in Wadsworth basketball let
6Foot9FromPepperdine help you. NO, he did not play last year or the year before due to the dictator style of coaching. This kid is about 6' 6" and weighs in the 220#'s. He will be a force this year down low and in the SL.

[seahawks4life]

If you went to any Wadsworth games you would know if he played last year. So, since you need a history lesson in Wadsworth basketball let
6Foot9FromPepperdine help you. NO, he did not play last year or the year before due to the dictator style of coaching. This kid is about 6' 6" and weighs in the 220#'s. He will be a force this year down low and in the SL.

i know how he is via football and if you read my posts i didnt think he played but wadsworth told me he did and i made the mistake of beliving him...

i should've known better tho

[HoopHound]

jake mays- huge

This supposed to be funny?

[hs sports fan]

If you went to any Wadsworth games you would know if he played last year. So, since you need a history lesson in Wadsworth basketball let
6Foot9FromPepperdine help you. NO, he did not play last year or the year before due to the dictator style of coaching. This kid is about 6' 6" and weighs in the 220#'s. He will be a force this year down low and in the SL.

What is the kid's name and what grade is he

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

What is the kid's name and what grade is he


His first name is Craig and I can't remember his last name. He's a senior and played football this year. This kid played basketball all the way up to his sophmore year so he does have some skills. He should be some help for Schrock down in the paint.

[hs sports fan]

His first name is Craig and I can't remember his last name. He's a senior and played football this year. This kid played basketball all the way up to his sophmore year so he does have some skills. He should be some help for Schrock down in the paint.

According to MaxPreps, his name is Craig Snyder. He's #15 on the roster.

http://www.maxpreps.com/ohio/football/wadsworth/roster.aspx?schoolid=c0cffcf0-29fa-471e-873d-41711d4a229a&ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e&urpath=,local,team

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

According to MaxPreps, his name is Craig Snyder. He's #15 on the roster.

http://www.maxpreps.com/ohio/football/wadsworth/roster.aspx?schoolid=c0cffcf0-29fa-471e-873d-41711d4a229a&ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e&urpath=,local,team

Thanks for the link hs. Are we getting fired up SL fans! The first scrimmage for most of our SL teams are coming up next week! Any interesting match-ups? Also, the Perry Pre-View starts the Day after Thanksgiving! Left Over Turkey and Basketball - Now that's a holiday weekend!

[cantstopme]

Let's hear from ya fans. What does the league look like? Here's what I want to hear.

1) Prediction of League Champs and order of finish
2) Top Players in the League
3) Top "Game(s) of the Year"
4) Top Coaches (Rank'em)
5) Biggest surprise (in terms of finish, players, wins, etc) of the year
6) Team that will make the deepest tourney run

Official Practice starts Monday. Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SLeagueWads]

Craigh Snyder was a senior on the football team this year. He is a very big presence coming in at around 5'5". Will be interesting to see how he fairs this year.

[wadsgriz1212]

haha ok if you guys are talking about the craig snyder i know he is 6'4 at the most i'm pretty sure and even tho he is def a physical presence the kid hasnt played basketball since his freshman year and even then he didn't get any playing time on the freshman team...don't count on him to replace baughman's production in my opinion

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

Let's hear from ya fans. What does the league look like? Here's what I want to hear.

1) Prediction of League Champs and order of finish
2) Top Players in the League
3) Top "Game(s) of the Year"
4) Top Coaches (Rank'em)
5) Biggest surprise (in terms of finish, players, wins, etc) of the year
6) Team that will make the deepest tourney run

Official Practice starts Monday. Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great Post Cantstopme! My prediction for SL champion has to be Tallmadge.
I saw Tallmadge play at the Wooster College shootout in June against a very big and aggressive Smithville team. The Smithies are a very intense team that matched Tallmadge with height and speed. However, after a long and hard fought battle of a game. Tallmadge won in OT by 1 point. This game had to be stopped 2 or 3 times by the refs due to fighting after hard fouls and kids getting tied up in the paint. Even the coaches from both sides had to be told to stay in the sidelines. What a game! I thought I was watching an NBA game seven. This has to be the most physical game in high school basketball I've seen in a very long time.

If Barberton wants the SL crown, they better be fired up and ready for a battle royal when they play Tallmadge. In my opinion, Tallmadge wins the SL and Barberton finishes second. My preditions for the rest of the SL teams are below.

1) Tallmadge
2) Barberton
3) Wadsworth
4) Copley
5) Green
6) Revere
7) Highland
8) Cloverleaf

I will quote later on your questions 2 - 6...

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

haha ok if you guys are talking about the craig snyder i know he is 6'4 at the most i'm pretty sure and even tho he is def a physical presence the kid hasnt played basketball since his freshman year and even then he didn't get any playing time on the freshman team...don't count on him to replace baughman's production in my opinion


I agree, Snyder won't be able to replace Baughman's production. However, he will pick-up 8 to 12 rebounds a game and give the Grizzlies some needed size and physical force inside. He's a positive kid whose unselfish attitude and hustle far out weighs the Baughman loss.

There will be a player in the Wadsworth program that has worked hard all summer and will step up to replace Baughman's 14 points per game. We will see who that player is once the season gets underway. And, I saw that Shepherd kid play a couple times last year and he can flat out shoot the ball. If this kid is allowed to shoot the ball 15 - 20 times a game, look out SL teams. This kid is a game changer - Ask Firestone and Hudson who got rocked by his last second bombs...

[magics89]

I agree that Tallmadge and Barberton will certainly be slugging it out this year for the SL crown, but seeing them beat a possible D4 team is probably not that good of a gauge.

[StreetsBB330]

I agree that Tallmadge and Barberton will certainly be slugging it out this year for the SL crown, but seeing them beat a possible D4 team is probably not that good of a gauge.

Ahhh yes the basketball season is nearing and the Barberton cronies are slowly paying their internet bills. I love it. Where is King Of the Blabber when you need him.

[frecriss]

Ahhh yes the basketball season is nearing and the Barberton cronies are slowly paying their internet bills. I love it. Where is King Of the Blabber when you need him.

Great post StreetsIQ33.

1. Barberton
2. Tallmadge
3. Copley
4. Green
5. Wadsworth
6. Revere
7. Highland
8. Cloverleaf

Barberton and Tallmadge will split with each team winning at home. Tallmadge and Barberton could swap positions. They are clearly the top two teams in the Suburban League.

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

Great post StreetsIQ33.

1. Barberton
2. Tallmadge
3. Copley
4. Green
5. Wadsworth
6. Revere
7. Highland
8. Cloverleaf

Barberton and Tallmadge will split with each team winning at home. Tallmadge and Barberton could swap positions. They are clearly the top two teams in the Suburban League.

Good One Frecriss on the IQ33 above...I have to agree with your Barberton logic. The two top teams will split at home and from there who knows what will happen. However, I still say Tallmadge has the edge with their height advantage over most teams in the SL and will take the crown.

[cantstopme]

Thanks for your comments guys but what about the other questions?????:shrug: can I get a response??? SL Fans show your intelligence and bring it!!! #2-6

[HoopHound]

ATTENTION SUBURBAN LEAGUE FANS...

The forum is still looking for volunteers willing to report scores for all games involving SL teams. This would involve entering the scores into a database that Yappi is designing right now.

Each score would take no more than about 8 or 10 seconds (a couple mouse clicks... and a few keystrokes) to enter into the schedule/results tables.

Doing this service would be a HUGE help to the forum, and will create a tremendous reference resource for ALL of us... both during the season AND in the off-season as well!!

This could be done by one poster, or a couple posters working in cooperation with each other. If you utilize and enjoy this forum, it's a great opportunity to "give something back" and show your gratitude.

CAN I COUNT ON ANY SL POSTERS TO LEND A HAND???

[parentbball]

And, I saw that Shepherd kid play a couple times last year and he can flat out shoot the ball. If this kid is allowed to shoot the ball 15 - 20 times a game, look out SL teams. This kid is a game changer - Ask Firestone and Hudson who got rocked by his last second bombs...

There is no way the SL will allow Shepherd to shoot 15-20 times a game, especially if Baughman is not around to provide a second scoring option. The SL coaches are way too smart for that.

[seahawks4life]

There is no way the SL will allow Shepherd to shoot 15-20 times a game, especially if Baughman is not around to provide a second scoring option. The SL coaches are way too smart for that.

can everyone finally admit that baughman was one of wadsworths best players and will be the most missed player not playing tihs year

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

can everyone finally admit that baughman was one of wadsworths best players and will be the most missed player not playing tihs year

First, you you must be one of baugman's close friends because you quote him all the time. Second, you really know nothing about basketball to make that statement above. Ask any high school varsity basketball coach from any league this question? If a player won't follow the rules, won't come to practice and work hard and won't stay out of trouble with the school and the police? Would you have him on your team? Any coach will tell you seahawk absolutely NOT. Who CARES how many points that player will score because he will only poison the other players around him...Just like he's poisoned you to think he's the best player on the Wadsworth team. Now, he's on your team seahawk riding the pine they call the bench in the stands next to YOU!

[kzr0]

1) Barberton
2) Tallmadge
3) Copley
4) Revere
5) Wadsworth
6) Green
7) Highland
8) Cloverleaf

Revere might be biggest surprise even with the loss of Weeks. Copley will be better than last year, but the biggest challenge will come from Barberton and Tallmadge. Tallmadge will go deeper than anyone in the tournament. This will give them 20 games to get their guards ready to play with their bigs. Wadsworth would have been higher but the loss of Baughman will hurt early until someone steps up( maybe Keener or P. Williams).
Best returnees are: North, Simms and Duncan from Barberton, Householder, Mays from Tallmadge, Keener and Sheperd from Wadsworth, Weidrich and the freshman(BJ) point from Revere, Wilson from Green, Hightower from Copley, Furr from Cloverleaf

Top coaches: Revere, Barberton, Copley, and Green all have good coaches. Don't know anything about Wadsworth's and Tallmadges coach is Good but not up with the top 4.

[kzr0]

can everyone finally admit that baughman was one of wadsworths best players and will be the most missed player not playing tihs year

I for one agree he will be missed. 6'9" we are not saying his antics will be missed or that the team as a whole will be better off but for just plain basketball talent he will be missed.

[seahawks4life]

First, you you must be one of baugman's close friends because you quote him all the time. Second, you really know nothing about basketball to make that statement above. Ask any high school varsity basketball coach from any league this question? If a player won't follow the rules, won't come to practice and work hard and won't stay out of trouble with the school and the police? Would you have him on your team? Any coach will tell you seahawk absolutely NOT. Who CARES how many points that player will score because he will only poison the other players around him...Just like he's poisoned you to think he's the best player on the Wadsworth team. Now, he's on your team seahawk riding the pine they call the bench in the stands next to YOU!

he's not gonna be breaking team rules on the court,, he is a fine player, one of the best that was on the team.. i understand the rules i never said he should be allowed to play. i said he will be the most missed not playing

[SLeagueWads]

Baughman will definitely be missed this year. There is no doubt that Wadsworth is going to be hurting without his 14-15 points a game. That means that players are going to have to step up that really weren't scorers on varsity last year, guys like Jordan Keener, Nate Moskowitz, and Prescott Williams. Schrock will hopefully be healthy and ready to go by the start of the season, and they need the defensive presence of Anthony Lorubbio. Ok, Sheppard will be the leading scorer this year, if not the leading scorer of the Suburban League, but teams are going to recognize that and he will see a lot of faceguarding this year by probably every SL team. That's where those players previously mentioned need to step up. I believe the varsity will have three seniors just as last year's team did. I see the Grizzlies as a contender, but I do not believe they will finish in the top two.

[msd1300]

1. Tallmadge-Two very good senior guards, a couple good shooters, and two dominate big men inside. It will be very difficult to contain all the different threats on this team.

2. Barberton-Always well coached, lock down defense, a great playmaker in Jacob North.

3. Copley-Most impressive team last year, they will continue to get better.

4.Green-Always good on defense, lost a lot last year, but I still see them being competitive.

5.Wadsworth-Some decent guards, no inside presence though.

6.Revere

7.Highland

8. Cloverleaf

[hs sports fan]

1. Tallmadge-Two very good senior guards...

Names? Outside of Mays and Householder, they only return just 66 points between 4 guys from last year.

[seahawks4life]

1. Tallmadge-Two very good senior guards, a couple good shooters, and two dominate big men inside. It will be very difficult to contain all the different threats on this team.

2. Barberton-Always well coached, lock down defense, a great playmaker in Jacob North.

3. Copley-Most impressive team last year, they will continue to get better.

4.Green-Always good on defense, lost a lot last year, but I still see them being competitive.

5.Wadsworth-Some decent guards, no inside presence though.

6.Revere

7.Highland

8. Cloverleaf



i understand that your a talmadge fan so they get some extra favorticism but really above barberton and copley??

and i think revere will suprise some this year...and not in a good waymy order goes as follows:

barberton
copley
tallmadge
wadsworth
green
highland
revere
cloverleaf

[BlueBevil6853]

Names? Outside of Mays and Householder, they only return just 66 points between 4 guys from last year.

Craig Seisel and Matt Keen are the two guards he's referring to. Tallmadge did graduate 7 seniors but they will be fine. There is more talent in the class of '09 then you guys realize. However, outside of the two guards that I mentioned, I don't feel like there is enough talent at the guard position for them to win the league. Tallmadge will probably finish 2nd with Barberton winning another title.

[seahawks4life]

Craig Seisel and Matt Keen are the two guards he's referring to. Tallmadge did graduate 7 seniors but they will be fine. There is more talent in the class of '09 then you guys realize. However, outside of the two guards that I mentioned, I don't feel like there is enough talent at the guard position for them to win the league. Tallmadge will probably finish 2nd with Barberton winning another title.

seisel played football correct

and i tihnk matt keen will do a lot more than score this year

he didnt contribute many points last year so dont look for him to this year either

[BDevil41]

seahawks4life you are without a doubt the least credible source on this forum. stop talking

[msd1300]

i understand that your a talmadge fan so they get some extra favorticism but really above barberton and copley??

and i think revere will suprise some this year...and not in a good waymy order goes as follows:

barberton
copley
tallmadge
wadsworth
green
highland
revere
cloverleaf



I am not showing any favoritism at all, I truly believe Tallmadge will be the best team in the league. Mays and Householder can score anywhere from inside the block, out to the three point arc. It's going to be very difficult to contain both of them.

[seahawks4life]

I am not showing any favoritism at all, I truly believe Tallmadge will be the best team in the league. Mays and Householder can score anywhere from inside the block, out to the three point arc. It's going to be very difficult to contain both of them.

barberton has only lost SL one year since joining , so IMO are the favorites every year

[seahawks4life]

seahawks4life you are without a doubt the least credible source on this forum. stop talking

haha how?

and im glad your saying this when you havent posted anytihng is this thread really

half the stuff i say is agreeing with other posters, all except baughman stuff for the most part

[kzr0]

Mays and Householder are very tough. The only team I think that can contain them to a point is Barberton with Browning 6'4" and Simms 6'6". They will get their points but it is the guards that will have to step up for Tallmadge to win the league. I have seen Keen play in the past and he is a true point guard. He does not look to score but to set up the others. He can penetrate and dish. I don't believe though Keen and Seisel will match up with North and Duncan or Giovinnini from Barberton.

[seahawks4life]

Mays and Householder are very tough. The only team I think that can contain them to a point is Barberton with Browning 6'4" and Simms 6'6". They will get their points but it is the guards that will have to step up for Tallmadge to win the league. I have seen Keen play in the past and he is a true point guard. He does not look to score but to set up the others. He can penetrate and dish. I don't believe though Keen and Seisel will match up with North and Duncan or Giovinnini from Barberton.

i agree with all of what you said and that is why barberton is my pick for SL champs

[Indian315]

Who are the best players from each team in the Suburban League???????

[seahawks4life]

Who are the best players from each team in the Suburban League???????

barberton - jacob north, duncan, simms
talmadge- mays and householder from what i hear
wadsworth- sheppard (wadsworth fans seem to think shrock as well even tho he hasnt played highschool bball)
copley- hightower
revere- weidrich and amir ( sophomore bj if he did not transfer)
green- wilson (dont know much about them)
highland- john alexander ( possibly the phillips bros, but prolly not)
cloverleaf- roberts? ( not too sure about them either)

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

haha how?

and im glad your saying this when you havent posted anytihng is this thread really

half the stuff i say is agreeing with other posters, all except baughman stuff for the most part

Tallmadge will win the SL with Barberton coming in 2nd. I do agree that Tallmadge does have some issues with their guard play. However, I always say layups by the bigs beat outside shots from the guards everytime. So IMO I'm staying with Tallmadge. And, there it is...you had to mention your buddy again.

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

Baughman will definitely be missed this year. There is no doubt that Wadsworth is going to be hurting without his 14-15 points a game. That means that players are going to have to step up that really weren't scorers on varsity last year, guys like Jordan Keener, Nate Moskowitz, and Prescott Williams. Schrock will hopefully be healthy and ready to go by the start of the season, and they need the defensive presence of Anthony Lorubbio. Ok, Sheppard will be the leading scorer this year, if not the leading scorer of the Suburban League, but teams are going to recognize that and he will see a lot of faceguarding this year by probably every SL team. That's where those players previously mentioned need to step up. I believe the varsity will have three seniors just as last year's team did. I see the Grizzlies as a contender, but I do not believe they will finish in the top two.


Well said SLeagueWads!

[sportsfan45]

Both Seniors are not playing for Cloverleaf....Roberts and Juszczyk are not playing....they do not have one senior on the roster is what I have heard

[111411]

Both Seniors are not playing for Cloverleaf....Roberts and Juszczyk are not playing....they do not have one senior on the roster is what I have heard

WOW!!!!!!

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Seeing as they are both going to be playing college football, that doesn't come as a huge surprise... Too bad for Leaf though.

The closer we get to the season, the more I like Highland's chances to put out a solid team. I haven't seen Alexander play, but he is supposedly good. Both the Phillips bro's are much improved from last year... Guenther is the kid to watch for, he has the potential to push this team to the next level. Knerem will probably round out the starting 5, he might be slow coming on since he just finished with football.

[seahawks4life]

Tallmadge will win the SL with Barberton coming in 2nd. I do agree that Tallmadge does have some issues with their guard play. However, I always say layups by the bigs beat outside shots from the guards everytime. So IMO I'm staying with Tallmadge. And, there it is...you had to mention your buddy again.

again , barberton has lost the SLT only once so until someone can consistantly beat them im not changing my opinio

and tthe only guard that can get the ball to mays and householder is matt (keen) and barberton has a variety of guard playmakers including SL jacob north

and yeah whats your point, i mentioned "my boy" to make a point that the stuff i say is credible

[parentbball]

The closer we get to the season, the more I like Highland's chances to put out a solid team. I haven't seen Alexander play, but he is supposedly good. Both the Phillips bro's are much improved from last year... Guenther is the kid to watch for, he has the potential to push this team to the next level. Knerem will probably round out the starting 5, he might be slow coming on since he just finished with football.

Highland will bring it on defense, but really struggle to score points again this year. They may win a game or two more than expected with hustle and shooting well, but it's likely to be another long winter in the Hornet's nest.

[StreetsBB330]

wadsworth- sheppard (wadsworth fans seem to think shrock as well even tho he hasnt played highschool bball)

Dude, Shrock hasn't played highschool basketball?? I'm pretty sure he was a starter as a freshmen. Do you really have any idea what you are talking about? Shrock was a bigtime help lastyear on both sides of the ball. Maybe you should try and watch a few SL games before you open your mouth.


Barberton and Tallmadge both have tough teams. They will for sure be dukin it out for the SL crown.

[BD64]

Both Seniors are not playing for Cloverleaf....Roberts and Juszczyk are not playing....they do not have one senior on the roster is what I have heard

They have Andrew Weise, Drew Detwiler and Nate Jordan, all seniors,returning. There are no returning lettermen though.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Highland will bring it on defense, but really struggle to score points again this year. They may win a game or two more than expected with hustle and shooting well, but it's likely to be another long winter in the Hornet's nest.
For the most part I agree. Simply put, this team will live and die by the 3. Guenther, and J. Phillips both can hit from downtown. Knerem isn't bad either from deep. I don't know about Alexander...

What we really need is a post threat. We simply don't have that. A. Phillips is solid, but he isn't going to draw doubles down low..... That said, teams can work to shut down our outside shooters, and none of them are good enough that I know of to create shots themselves. If we run the same type of offense as last year, I don't see that opening shots for us either.

The lone thing that excites me is that we might have someone (Guenther and/or Alexander) who can penetrate the lane and than kick it out to our 3 point shooters..... We shall see though.

[seahawks4life]

Dude, Shrock hasn't played highschool basketball?? I'm pretty sure he was a starter as a freshmen. Do you really have any idea what you are talking about? Shrock was a bigtime help lastyear on both sides of the ball. Maybe you should try and watch a few SL games before you open your mouth.


Barberton and Tallmadge both have tough teams. They will for sure be dukin it out for the SL crown.

first off several people from wadsworth told me he did not pplay last year due to the " dictorship coaching" their words not mine......

and besides .. wow freshman starter going straight to varisty.. i take back my comment

[hs sports fan]

first off several people from wadsworth told me he did not pplay last year due to the " dictorship coaching" their words not mine......

and besides .. wow freshman starter going straight to varisty.. i take back my comment

I believe they were referring to why Snyder did not play the last few years, not Schrock.

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

again , barberton has lost the SLT only once so until someone can consistantly beat them im not changing my opinio

and tthe only guard that can get the ball to mays and householder is matt (keen) and barberton has a variety of guard playmakers including SL jacob north

and yeah whats your point, i mentioned "my boy" to make a point that the stuff i say is credible


OK Enough about "YOUR BOY"... Let's get back to basketball. I will agree that the SL Crown will come down to 2 teams - Tallmadge or Barberton. However, you might have a point about the guard play for Tallmadge. Once the season gets underway, we will see if Tallmadge can handle the full court press and the half court pressure/traps from the quick teams likes Barberton. And, One more thing to think about. Tallmadge has a new gym with a bigger floor that's definitely an advantage for the smaller, quicker and faster teams. A bigger gym and average guard play... Seahawk, you might have something here.

Can anyone report on the Barberton scrimmage from Saturday? And, are there any other SL scrimmages coming up this week that look interesting?

[frecriss]

OK Enough about "YOUR BOY"... Let's get back to basketball. I will agree that the SL Crown will come down to 2 teams - Tallmadge or Barberton. However, you might have a point about the guard play for Tallmadge. Once the season gets underway, we will see if Tallmadge can handle the full court press and the half court pressure/traps from the quick teams likes Barberton. And, One more thing to think about. Tallmadge has a new gym with a bigger floor that's definitely an advantage for the smaller, quicker and faster teams. A bigger gym and average guard play... Seahawk, you might have something here.

Can anyone report on the Barberton scrimmage from Saturday? And, are there any other SL scrimmages coming up this week that look interesting?

According to another poster on a thread on the Barberton forum, the Magics:

"Blew out Perry 18-3 in the first quarter and then played even the rest of the quarters with both Perry and Warren Harding"

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

According to another poster on a thread on the Barberton forum, the Magics:

"Blew out Perry 18-3 in the first quarter and then played even the rest of the quarters with both Perry and Warren Harding"

Thanks Frecriss and "WOW" - That says alot about Barberton. Both of these teams are usually very very good year in and year out. So, for Baberton to stay with Harding and Perry for the entire scrimmage says alot about their talent level this year in the SL.

[BENSPAPA8]

Highland will bring it on defense, but really struggle to score points again this year. They may win a game or two more than expected with hustle and shooting well, but it's likely to be another long winter in the Hornet's nest.

OhioBobcatFan06 Quote:


For the most part I agree. Simply put, this team will live and die by the 3. Guenther, and J. Phillips both can hit from downtown. Knerem isn't bad either from deep. I don't know about Alexander...

What we really need is a post threat. We simply don't have that. A. Phillips is solid, but he isn't going to draw doubles down low..... That said, teams can work to shut down our outside shooters, and none of them are good enough that I know of to create shots themselves. If we run the same type of offense as last year, I don't see that opening shots for us either.

The lone thing that excites me is that we might have someone (Guenther and/or Alexander) who can penetrate the lane and than kick it out to our 3 point shooters..... We shall see though.

************************************

Maybe a shooter would need to drop into the paint and show the desire to lead the county in rebounding and forego scoring opps and the boxscore?

I recall a HHS shooting guard did that for his team a couple short years ago his senior season while the underclassmen whined about getting "theirs".

Maybe that unselfishness would lead to some district and state honors for the effort, like it did back then!

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

OhioBobcatFan06 Quote:


For the most part I agree. Simply put, this team will live and die by the 3. Guenther, and J. Phillips both can hit from downtown. Knerem isn't bad either from deep. I don't know about Alexander...

What we really need is a post threat. We simply don't have that. A. Phillips is solid, but he isn't going to draw doubles down low..... That said, teams can work to shut down our outside shooters, and none of them are good enough that I know of to create shots themselves. If we run the same type of offense as last year, I don't see that opening shots for us either.

The lone thing that excites me is that we might have someone (Guenther and/or Alexander) who can penetrate the lane and than kick it out to our 3 point shooters..... We shall see though.

************************************

Maybe a shooter would need to drop into the paint and show the desire to lead the county in rebounding and forego scoring opps and the boxscore?

I recall a HHS shooting guard did that for his team a couple short years ago his senior season while the underclassmen whined about getting "theirs".

Maybe that unselfishness would lead to some district and state honors for the effort, like it did back then!


Can I ask whom you are referring to in your quote about the HS shooter dropping into the paint to show his desire to their underclassman?

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

I believe they were referring to why Snyder did not play the last few years, not Schrock.

IMO - The coaching style of the previous Wadsworth staff was so detrimental to the young players developing in the program that many of them decided not to play. The Snyder kid was one of many that saw the reverse verbal style of coaching and knew what was in store for them at the next level. The Copley program now has the great one that IMO will last only 2 years before blowing up. His Basketball knowledge yes, his basketball coaching not a clue. You can't teach an old dog new tricks and the Copley program will soon learn from the Wadsworth mistake.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Maybe a shooter would need to drop into the paint and show the desire to lead the county in rebounding and forego scoring opps and the boxscore?

I recall a HHS shooting guard did that for his team a couple short years ago his senior season while the underclassmen whined about getting "theirs".

Maybe that unselfishness would lead to some district and state honors for the effort, like it did back then!
I'm just hoping we win more games than we did that year........

Can I ask whom you are referring to in your quote about the HS shooter dropping into the paint to show his desire to their underclassman?
You really show your youth with that statement. ;)

[parentbball]

Maybe a shooter would need to drop into the paint and show the desire to lead the county in rebounding and forego scoring opps and the boxscore?

I recall a HHS shooting guard did that for his team a couple short years ago his senior season while the underclassmen whined about getting "theirs".

Maybe that unselfishness would lead to some district and state honors for the effort, like it did back then!

Still crying about your son - amazing! Wow.

[parentbball]

Just the facts mam.

"Five players on the floor functioning as one single unit: team, team, team - no one more important that the other. "Dale

The statement was made that there is no post threat. There hasn't been one since AB. Therefore, somebody will have to do the dirty work, and others will have to back that volunteer up.

Parent, I see you didn't lose your Mean Streak. As usual, basketball chatter is turned into finger pointing and calling out. Good Luck

Nothing remotely approaching "Mean" in my comment. I just find it odd that 2 years later you are still hyping your son as on a high school chat site. Of course, I'll tell you - I'd love to see Ben in a Highland uniform and playing post, shooting guard whatever - no question there.

[rcal14]

Who are the best players from each team in the Suburban League???????

Green- no real superstars- good athletes that will get after it on thye defensive end- they will compete but Barberton,Tallmadge and Copley are my picks to finish ahead of Green

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

I'm just hoping we win more games than we did that year........


You really show your youth with that statement. ;)

I'm fairly new to Yappi so if I don't know whom you're referring to I apologize. Maybe since you're older than I your memory has faded. So, can anyone else help answer the question?

[oralcomm101]

IMO - The coaching style of the previous Wadsworth staff was so detrimental to the young players developing in the program that many of them decided not to play. The Snyder kid was one of many that saw the reverse verbal style of coaching and knew what was in store for them at the next level. The Copley program now has the great one that IMO will last only 2 years before blowing up. His Basketball knowledge yes, his basketball coaching not a clue. You can't teach an old dog new tricks and the Copley program will soon learn from the Wadsworth mistake.

I think the Copley players are a little tougher than the Wadsworth players and won't go home and cry to Daddy that the coach is yelling at me.....

[seahawks4life]

OK Enough about "YOUR BOY"... Let's get back to basketball. I will agree that the SL Crown will come down to 2 teams - Tallmadge or Barberton. However, you might have a point about the guard play for Tallmadge. Once the season gets underway, we will see if Tallmadge can handle the full court press and the half court pressure/traps from the quick teams likes Barberton. And, One more thing to think about. Tallmadge has a new gym with a bigger floor that's definitely an advantage for the smaller, quicker and faster teams. A bigger gym and average guard play... Seahawk, you might have something here.

Can anyone report on the Barberton scrimmage from Saturday? And, are there any other SL scrimmages coming up this week that look interesting?



WTF are you talking about

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I'm fairly new to Yappi so if I don't know whom you're referring to I apologize. Maybe since you're older than I your memory has faded. So, can anyone else help answer the question?
Ben Klafczynski...

[suburbanfootball09]

I think the Copley players are a little tougher than the Wadsworth players and won't go home and cry to Daddy that the coach is yelling at me.....

agreed. maybe wadsworth didnt have what it took to handle a great coach such as coach cal.. we'll see if this babysitter, i mean coach, has what it takes to lead this team..

[SuburbanLeague223]

barberton - jacob north, duncan, simms
talmadge- mays and householder from what i hear
wadsworth- sheppard (wadsworth fans seem to think shrock as well even tho he hasnt played highschool bball)
copley- hightower
revere- weidrich and amir ( sophomore bj if he did not transfer)
green- wilson (dont know much about them)
highland- john alexander ( possibly the phillips bros, but prolly not)
cloverleaf- roberts? ( not too sure about them either)

John alexander is not the best overall player on Highland.

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

Ben Klafczynski...

Thank you!

[seahawks4life]

John alexander is not the best overall player on Highland.

yes he is

[6Foot9FromPepperdine]

agreed. maybe wadsworth didnt have what it took to handle a great coach such as coach cal.. we'll see if this babysitter, i mean coach, has what it takes to lead this team..

Suburbanfootball09 - Wadsworth doesn't have what it takes to handle a great coach? Interesting? Could you give us a little more indepth explanation on your quote?

[OhioBobcatFan06]

John alexander is not the best overall player on Highland.
I can't agree or disagree as I've never seen him play, but everyone I've talked to seems to think he is... Any reason you say otherwise? And who in your opinion is the best player?

[seahawks4life]

I can't agree or disagree as I've never seen him play, but everyone I've talked to seems to think he is... Any reason you say otherwise? And who in your opinion is the best player?

bobcat trust me.. i tihnk you know me well enough to trust me with a highschool basketball question such as this..... based upon the open gyms and scrimmages john alexander is the best overall player on the team

stat-wise maybe not but he creates so much and wont turn the ball over

[OhioBobcatFan06]

bobcat trust me.. i tihnk you know me well enough to trust me with a highschool basketball question such as this..... based upon the open gyms and scrimmages john alexander is the best overall player on the team

stat-wise maybe not but he creates so much and wont turn the ball over
Sounds like EXACTLY what I want from my starting point guard. :shrug:

[wadsgriz1212]

Yes, Alexander is Highland's best player. And for those who say Wadsworth is "not tough enough" to handle a tough coach, I do not believe this is true. Baughman actually played for him, and this made us a better team. The other talent, Smith, Schrock, White, Lorubbio, and Sheppard all respected him as well. The statement about underclassmen is false too as the top underclassmen of Schrock, Carps, Keener, Moore, and Williams all respected and enjoyed the previous coaching staff as well. The only people that didn't like him are the people who weren't getting much playing time which, in many peoples' opinion, was well deserved. All of the players that exited the program did so because they realized that they had other strengths than basketball and wanted to focus on those-- it had nothing to do with the coaching.

Sure, I believe that a lot of the current wadsworth students might be a little mentally weaker when compared to past, prestigious teams, but the blame of the recent subpar finishes should not be put on a "tough" coaching staff.

[seahawks4life]

Sounds like EXACTLY what I want from my starting point guard. :shrug:

what are you talking about...... highaschool bball isnt all about stats

he will drive and dish and create so many fast break plays as well

he wont turn the ball over very much, even as a sophomore

he is a decevingly big kid

best ball control in maybe all surburban ( might be a stretch but im sticking to it until someone proves me wrong)

shot is iffy but based upn his dribbling he might not need it this year

[seahawks4life]

oh dang wadsgirl yo cant mention peoples name with 5'9"...i mean 6'9"

he gets a lil weird

[OhioBobcatFan06]

what are you talking about...... highaschool bball isnt all about stats

he will drive and dish and create so many fast break plays as well

he wont turn the ball over very much, even as a sophomore

he is a decevingly big kid

best ball control in maybe all surburban ( might be a stretch but im sticking to it until someone proves me wrong)

shot is iffy but based upn his dribbling he might not need it this year
You misunderstood me, I agreed with you. :shrug: :angel:
I could care less about the stats....
I love PG's who can create offense and take care of the ball. Like I said, that is exactly what I want from a PG...

I'm excited to see this kid suit up.

[BD64]

Cody Roberts has returned to the Cloverleaf basketball team. He considered not playing, but is back out and healthy.

[parentbball]

I have seen Alexander play before his trek outside the HHS system.

I saw an athlete with court awareness and a natural scoring ability. He would thrive in a CAP system, but I expect him to be handcuffed??

Maybe lessons were learned on how to use talent??

All of the talk about stats or who is the best player etc run counter to the concept of "team". That's probably what gets me going more than anything. Cap did not tolerate this, and I think nor would Kestner.

I certainly hope the HHS coaches have learned some lessons over the past few years on how to handle things, and I saw some evidence of this last year, in spite of a very poor W/L record. For the most part they were a team, and played very hard. They just didn't have the horses.

I expect Alexander to contribute to this team, and hope that he is a leader.

[sportsfan45]

BD64...Thanks I just heard there was no seniors on this ball club but since you gave names i do remeber them.... And if Roberts really is playing that will be big for Cloverleaf i dont think enough to compete that well but will help a lot....Can't wait for season to start and too watch all the home and some away games

[BD64]

BD64...Thanks I just heard there was no seniors on this ball club but since you gave names i do remeber them.... And if Roberts really is playing that will be big for Cloverleaf i dont think enough to compete that well but will help a lot....Can't wait for season to start and too watch all the home and some away games

Roberts was at prctice last night. The coach talked with the players to welcome him back and work as a team. Yes, it will help, but lack of experiance is going to hurt this ream.

[GREENDAY]

Wadsworth and Smithville scrimmage tonight at Wadsworth, so that should be a good test for both teams. Although it is the first scrimmage, it should be a good indicator of talent.

[seahawks4life]

You misunderstood me, I agreed with you. :shrug: :angel:
I could care less about the stats....
I love PG's who can create offense and take care of the ball. Like I said, that is exactly what I want from a PG...

I'm excited to see this kid suit up.

i rad it quickly my fault bobcat... but yes you best come back to the games say hello and watch him play.... if he is a good defender ( whihc i can see him being)

he has already filled the shoes of webel from a pg POV...not a big scorer tho

[SuburbanLeague223]

seahawks and ohiobobcat dont get me wrong John is a great point guard who can penetrate, pass, and finish. However, he really needs to work on his shot. I understand that you dont neccesarily need scoring from your point guard but when you talk about best overall player..

Knerem, Guenther, the Phillips brothers, and maybe even Ciphers can give him a run for his money as the best overall player though.

I dont think you were at any scrimmages or open gyms either...?

[On The Money]

seahawks and ohiobobcat dont get me wrong John is a great point guard who can penetrate, pass, and finish. However, he really needs to work on his shot. I understand that you dont neccesarily need scoring from your point guard but when you talk about best overall player..

Knerem, Guenther, the Phillips brothers, and maybe even Ciphers can give him a run for his money as the best overall player though.

I dont think you were at any scrimmages or open gyms either...?

Looks like Knerem is out for awhile. Injured in that last football playoff game on a late hit. :mad: Not sure when he will return.

[On The Money]

I have seen Alexander play before his trek outside the HHS system.

I saw an athlete with court awareness and a natural scoring ability. He would thrive in a CAP system, but I expect him to be handcuffed??

Maybe lessons were learned on how to use talent??

You hit the nail on the head here. Let's hope they let the kid do his thing so the Hornets can at least be competitive.

[ACA45]

Roberts was at prctice last night. The coach talked with the players to welcome him back and work as a team. Yes, it will help, but lack of experiance is going to hurt this ream.

BD64 it sounds like you are pretty well informed to know all of this stuff right away about practice and speeches and working as a team. Why wouldn't they are there some problems or some upset players roberts came out, just asking and reading between the lines about your comments, sounds like maybe some selfish players if I am reading this right. hope I am wrong but I have seen this before and that's how it things happen.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Looks like Knerem is out for awhile. Injured in that last football playoff game on a late hit. :mad: Not sure when he will return.
I remember seeing this in the paper. I might be wrong, but I thought I remember it saying he had a bruised collarbone.... Again I might be wrong, but I think Knerem might've hurt his collarbone in the spring of last year. :shrug: Not sure, hopefully he comes back soon.

[kzr0]

How did the Wadsworth scrimmage go?

[BD64]

BD64 it sounds like you are pretty well informed to know all of this stuff right away about practice and speeches and working as a team. Why wouldn't they are there some problems or some upset players roberts came out, just asking and reading between the lines about your comments, sounds like maybe some selfish players if I am reading this right. hope I am wrong but I have seen this before and that's how it things happen.

I am not going to get into a he said/he said thing or start rumors etc. I have a friend on the team. They had tryouts and even made cuts. Roberts was not a part of the tryouts, but later asked the coach for permission to play. I'm sure some of the players were not happy, since they had to go through the tryouts and run thier butts off. I believe Roberts coming back is for the best for the team, and I hope the others get over this and play as a team. I wouldn't call them selfish, just concerned that if they let one player come back, after tryouts, whats going to stop others from doing the same. If you want to play, come to tryouts and work hard. Thers only so many seats on the bench.

[On The Money]

I remember seeing this in the paper. I might be wrong, but I thought I remember it saying he had a bruised collarbone.... Again I might be wrong, but I think Knerem might've hurt his collarbone in the spring of last year. :shrug: Not sure, hopefully he comes back soon.

I am told it is an injury to the collar bone. I do not know how serious it is. I would not hazard a guess on how long it will take for recovery.

[seahawks4life]

seahawks and ohiobobcat dont get me wrong John is a great point guard who can penetrate, pass, and finish. However, he really needs to work on his shot. I understand that you dont neccesarily need scoring from your point guard but when you talk about best overall player..

Knerem, Guenther, the Phillips brothers, and maybe even Ciphers can give him a run for his money as the best overall player though.

I dont think you were at any scrimmages or open gyms either...?
yeah i was at open gyms......anyhow he will be the reason they get open shots and score

without him those players would not be able to get open...he will create so much..i dont think even you could argue his dribbling ability

his shot will come... but as we said he doesnt need it right now

[seahawks4life]

I am told it is an injury to the collar bone. I do not know how serious it is. I would not hazard a guess on how long it will take for recovery.

he doesnt have to wear a sling anymore..only for a day....at practice he has been working on shooting one-handed...interesting to see if it improves his shot...but knerem does have a nack of going left and its his left collar bone with the problem...we'll see how long it lingers(if at all)

[SuburbanLeague223]

Looks like Knerem is out for awhile. Injured in that last football playoff game on a late hit. :mad: Not sure when he will return.

knerem says he will be back around the time of highlands first game the first week of december

[SuburbanLeague223]

yeah i was at open gyms......anyhow he will be the reason they get open shots and score

without him those players would not be able to get open...he will create so much..i dont think even you could argue his dribbling ability

his shot will come... but as we said he doesnt need it right now

you are right he will create a bunch of oppurtunities.

but you werent at open gyms i can guarantee that. for most of the open gyms you were at soccer correct? and i never saw you there.

[seahawks4life]

you are right he will create a bunch of oppurtunities.

but you werent at open gyms i can guarantee that. for most of the open gyms you were at soccer correct? and i never saw you there.

i dint play at open gyms no but i watched a few and yeah but soccer had later practices some days therefore i watched some and i think there were actually like 4 or 5 og's with soccer over

[colts02']

now that cody roberts is back what is the starting lineup for cloverleaf? have the colts had any scrimages?

[sportsfan45]

I'M sure not one person on that team is upset that roberts is back....Him missing time and running isn't that big of a deal to me...as long as he comes to practices and works his butt-off which you know he will....This team isn't selfish at all that is why they may pull a couple games out that they shouldn't win but still won't be that good

[kzr0]

How's everyone looking in the scrimmages? Barberton looks kind of shaky and are not playing real well. Watched them against Solon and they played bad in two of the 4 quarters but won the game. They played it like a game and not running quarters and I heard Tallmadge is playing the opposite and dominating their scrimmages. Who's the new transfer at Tallmadge? Give some updates on the scrimmages.

[BD64]

I'M sure not one person on that team is upset that roberts is back....Him missing time and running isn't that big of a deal to me...as long as he comes to practices and works his butt-off which you know he will....This team isn't selfish at all that is why they may pull a couple games out that they shouldn't win but still won't be that good

You should speak to some of the players. They were not happy, but they understand and accept it. I wish the Colts the best and hope they play the part of the spoiler.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

How's everyone looking in the scrimmages? Barberton looks kind of shaky and are not playing real well. Watched them against Solon and they played bad in two of the 4 quarters but won the game. They played it like a game and not running quarters and I heard Tallmadge is playing the opposite and dominating their scrimmages. Who's the new transfer at Tallmadge? Give some updates on the scrimmages.
I know Solon graduated some talent from last year, still a nice scrimmage win...

[BlueBevil6853]

How's everyone looking in the scrimmages? Barberton looks kind of shaky and are not playing real well. Watched them against Solon and they played bad in two of the 4 quarters but won the game. They played it like a game and not running quarters and I heard Tallmadge is playing the opposite and dominating their scrimmages. Who's the new transfer at Tallmadge? Give some updates on the scrimmages.

Transfer??? I haven't heard anything about that. What position does he play?

[DevilsAdvocate]

Tallmadge has a move in from Georgia...senior point guard...he is probably a better baseball player than hoops guy. Same size as Keen and Seisel.

Problem for Tallmadge will be to find a 2 and 3 player that can shoot teams out of the zone defense they will see every game because of the strength of their "bigs". Also need a guard that will get the team in the offense and not turn the ball over. I think teams will collapse down and dare the Devils to shoot it...for most, it will be their only hope. The back court is better suited for the press, than it is for offense.

[goindians1414]

Wow, i just heard some very upsetting news from our fellow rivals at revere. It seems that senior Ameer Elbulek will be sidelined for the 08-09 season as he just recently underwent acl reconstruction surgery. This is a HUGE blow to revere and the suburban league. Him, alongside baufman from wadsworth were among the top players in the league and it seems that the suburban league will be facing the loss of both players. Although i think wadsworth can recover, revere will be faced with a tough season, as they lost Weeks this year too (transfer to G.heights). Well, best of luck to Ameer and hopefully a full and healthy recovery!

[suburbanfootball09]

Ameer Elbulek is among the best players in the suburban league....
uh i must be thinking of the wrong league then..
maybe top 10 guards..

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Ameer Elbulek is among the best players in the suburban league....
uh i must be thinking of the wrong league then..
maybe top 10 guards..
:wallbang:
The kid is out with a ACL tear and you rip on him, real classy.

Elbulek WAS one of the top returning players in the league, the kid could handle the ball. Revere is looking like they will be a the bottom with all the unexpected loses they had from last year.

[kjm297]

:wallbang:
The kid is out with a ACL tear and you rip on him, real classy.

Elbulek WAS one of the top returning players in the league, the kid could handle the ball. Revere is looking like they will be a the bottom with all the unexpected loses they had from last year.

hmmm it's an ACL, not some life-threatning disease. suburbanfootball was just stating his opinion.