Federal League

[ballboy42]

Federal League Champs? Who do you think?

[ballboy42]

Hoover. because they have the height and talent to beat anybody in the federal league. People say that Jackson will win but most people dont know that we beat then down in the Wheeling Shootout tourny for the championship.

[Shady29]

New Poster, thats funny. I really don't think that those shootouts count in the records for the FL championship, or do they? I don't see anyone really getting past Jackson this year. Didn't Hoover graduate and lose some players this off-season?

[ballboy42]

No they dont count. But we lost Jd Elder and Matt Wakulicheck. But we still got some really good players back too. Jackson wont beat us at home if they cant beat us on the road. Our starting lineup is bigger than Jackson too.

[hs sports fan]

No they dont count. But we lost Jd Elder and Matt Wakulicheck. But we still got some really good players back too. Jackson wont beat us at home if they cant beat us on the road. Our starting lineup is bigger than Jackson too.

Don't forget Jared Porrini. He's gone as well. Your starting lineup may be bigger than Jackson's, but I didn't realize they started awarding points to the team with the biggest lineup? Plus, I'll take Henninger and Egner over Gross and Lane anyday of the week. Don't forget, Gross likes to play away from the basket.

[Shady29]

LOL "Our Starting lineup is bigger than Jackson too" haha. That's great! Losing those players, they were the heart and soul of your team last year! It might be a bit harder to replace them than you think! Porrini, Elder, and Wakulcheck. Jackson with Henninger and Egner are going to run the league IMO.

[thehasbeen95]

No they dont count. But we lost Jd Elder and Matt Wakulicheck. But we still got some really good players back too. Jackson wont beat us at home if they cant beat us on the road. Our starting lineup is bigger than Jackson too.

bigger maybe, better talent in the frontcourt........ I don't think so.

[ballboy42]

no one can stop niles evans. i will bet you that. plus, we have the deep range with nick sommers. he can also drive and finish. saw if happen when they did play jackson and gave them a beating.

[thehasbeen95]

Perry could give some teams some serious problems this season. they are better than people think IMO.

[ballin101]

no one can stop niles evans. i will bet you that. plus, we have the deep range with nick sommers. he can also drive and finish. saw if happen when they did play jackson and gave them a beating.

Jackson has to be the front runner especially after how they played Timken so close last year, after them I would say GlenOak, they have arguable the best guards and maybe 1-2 punch in the northeast ohio with McCollum and Sanders. Also the summer means nothing the season isn't untill December so it doesn't really matter what happened in June. Evans is a good player and will be very good in the future but how can you say no one can stop a kid when he only averaged 8 or 9 ppg last yr??he'll have to prove that during the season.

[ballboy42]

Jackson has to be the front runner especially after how they played Timken so close last year, after them I would say GlenOak, they have arguable the best guards and maybe 1-2 punch in the northeast ohio with McCollum and Sanders. Also the summer means nothing the season isn't untill December so it doesn't really matter what happened in June. Evans is a good player and will be very good in the future but how can you say no one can stop a kid when he only averaged 8 or 9 ppg last yr??he'll have to prove that during the season.

the summer means a lot. it sets the tone for december. if you were playig during the game you would of felt all of the tension betwenn jackson and us. and no glenoak dosnt have the best one two punch. you will see during this season that cj and storm are going to want the ball the entire game and almost no one else will be scoring during the season. so its going to be easy guarding gleanoak.

[thehasbeen95]

the summer means a lot. it sets the tone for december. if you were playig during the game you would of felt all of the tension betwenn jackson and us. and no glenoak dosnt have the best one two punch. you will see during this season that cj and storm are going to want the ball the entire game and almost no one else will be scoring during the season. so its going to be easy guarding gleanoak.

Glenoak has a better and proven backcourt than Hoover. You put C.J. and Storm on Hoover then we will be talking about them making a run for the Fed title without any roadblocks.

[ballboy42]

Don't forget Jared Porrini. He's gone as well. Your starting lineup may be bigger than Jackson's, but I didn't realize they started awarding points to the team with the biggest lineup? Plus, I'll take Henninger and Egner over Gross and Lane anyday of the week. Don't forget, Gross likes to play away from the basket.

True, but thats one of his qualities. Hes a 6'7'' footer that can shoot the three over anybody. Now i dont think that Henninger or Egner could shoot over Gross.

[ballboy42]

Glenoak has a better and proven backcourt than Hoover. You put C.J. and Storm on Hoover then we will be talking about them making a run for the Fed title without any roadblocks.

If they were on Hoover, we would be talking about a great state championship chance

[thehasbeen95]

True, but thats one of his qualities. Hes a 6'7'' footer that can shoot the three over anybody. Now i dont think that Henninger or Egner could shoot over Gross.

henninger has good range from 17 and in and egner can shoot from the perimeter. trust me I've seen them both be consistent with those shots.

[ballboy42]

henninger has good range from 17 and in and egner can shoot from the perimeter. trust me I've seen them both be consistent with those shots.

But can either of them shoot it over gross like he can both of them

[ballboy42]

Plus, when hoover does play jackson, whos going to guard the 6'3'' shooting guard Nick Sommers, they have no other player that can match up to him

[jj24]

Jackson without question should be the favorite to win the league title. With the 2 big boys Henninger and Egner all they have to do is keep working the ball in low. Jackson also had great guard play in the tourney last year and if i rember right they are back. Jackson was a young team last year who started to come together late. Dont count out Perry Capuanno is a great point guard and you bring back 6'7 Vocian and 6'5 Tormassi. they also have a 6'7 or 6'8 sophmore that may see the court. Look for Perry to finaly try and pick up the tempo this year. Of course GlenOak with Sanders and Mcoulom will be tough and never dicount the Bulldogs. They are always a threat to win it.
but my predictions would be.

1. Jackson
2. Perry
3. GlenOak
4.Mck
5.N.C.
6.Lake
7.Boardman
8.Fitch

[Shady29]

Jackson without question should be the favorite to win the league title. With the 2 big boys Henninger and Egner all they have to do is keep working the ball in low. Jackson also had great guard play in the tourney last year and if i rember right they are back. Jackson was a young team last year who started to come together late. Dont count out Perry Capuanno is a great point guard and you bring back 6'7 Vocian and 6'5 Tormassi. they also have a 6'7 or 6'8 sophmore that may see the court. Look for Perry to finaly try and pick up the tempo this year. Of course GlenOak with Sanders and Mcoulom will be tough and never dicount the Bulldogs. They are always a threat to win it.
but my predictions would be.

1. Jackson
2. Perry
3. GlenOak
4.Mck
5.N.C.
6.Lake
7.Boardman
8.Fitch

Gotta love the Stark County Bias!!!!!
Boardman will NOT finish 7th this year pal. They have so much returning talent, i Love how people just throw Fitch and Boardman at the bottom just like in football! After Jackson and GO, I think Boardman has a shot with returning players such as Soller, Pesta, Martin, Moore. These are All-League Players and don't overlook the Spartans.

[ballin101]

I'm just not so high on hoover Joe Gross really didn't impressed me last yr at Mckinley, and I just don't think he has that scorer mentality to take over late in games like the big boys from Jackson. And I'll take McCollum and Sanders over Evans and Sommers any day of the week and any where...you shouldn't even compare two Division I players vs. 1

1. Jackson
2. G.O.
3. Perry
4. Boardman
5. Hoover
6. Mckinley
7. Lake
8. Fitch

[hs sports fan]

Gotta love the Stark County Bias!!!!!
Boardman will NOT finish 7th this year pal. They have so much returning talent, i Love how people just throw Fitch and Boardman at the bottom just like in football! After Jackson and GO, I think Boardman has a shot with returning players such as Soller, Pesta, Martin, Moore. These are All-League Players and don't overlook the Spartans.

Is this a copy of your post from this time last year? LOL

[bryan21]

lol man this is the first time i read through this thread and i have to admit that ballboy made me laugh a numerous amount of times lol

[Shady29]

Is this a copy of your post from this time last year? LOL

LOL touche. Boardman was a lot younger last year and they have just about everyone returning.... BTW they did finish 4th in the FL Tourney I think after beating Lake at Lake? So they did show life as the year went on

[HoopHound]

Federal League Champs? Who do you think?

At this point, Jackson would be my choice... but I reserve the right to change my mind before the season officially starts. :blush: :angel:

I think the TOUGH thing is picking #2 through #7. I think you can throw a blanket over Hoover, GlenOak, Perry, and Boardman... with McKinley and Lake hiding in the weeds at half-a-hair's width back. Other than my current choice Jackson, the only other slot in the standings I'm pretty certain about is Fitch @ #8.

ANY of the other 6 teams could finish in ANY order. I think it'll likely come down to how healthy these teams are throughout the season, and who takes advantage of a couple of the others stumbling for whatever reasons.

We're in for quite a horserace in the Fed this season. :cool:

[yellowandblue]

At this point, Jackson would be my choice... but I reserve the right to change my mind before the season officially starts. :blush: :angel:

I think the TOUGH thing is picking #2 through #7. I think you can throw a blanket over Hoover, GlenOak, Perry, and Boardman... with McKinley and Lake hiding in the weeds at half-a-hair's width back. Other than my current choice Jackson, the only other slot in the standings I'm pretty certain about is Fitch @ #8.

ANY of the other 6 teams could finish in ANY order. I think it'll likely come down to how healthy these teams are throughout the season, and who takes advantage of a couple of the others stumbling for whatever reasons.

We're in for quite a horserace in the Fed this season. :cool:

Hound I could'nt agree more with you after this summer hearing N.C beat Jackson twice in shootouts and see G.O,Mck and Lake battle in summer league its gonna be one heck of a race.

[Jordan9]

Don't count fitch out they have a lot of athlete's...........

[herecomethembears]

Gotta love the Stark County Bias!!!!!
Boardman will NOT finish 7th this year pal. They have so much returning talent, i Love how people just throw Fitch and Boardman at the bottom just like in football! After Jackson and GO, I think Boardman has a shot with returning players such as Soller, Pesta, Martin, Moore. These are All-League Players and don't overlook the Spartans.

I have no dog in this fight but had the opportunity to watch Boardman play several games at a camp this past summer. They have a big kid, I think an Ohio State football recruit, who is about 6'3'' and completely dominant inside on the boards. He is going to cause serious rebounding problems for other teams. Hoover, Jackson and Glenoak better hope they don't miss any of their outside shots from the outstanding gaurd play you all are talking about because they will have trouble getting offensive rebounds.

[hs sports fan]

Hoover, Jackson and Glenoak better hope they don't miss any of their outside shots from the outstanding gaurd play you all are talking about because they will have trouble getting offensive rebounds.

I agree with GlenOak, but Jackson and Hoover have good big men, so they won't have depend on their shooting every game.

[herecomethembears]

The guy is a beast was my point. The bigs from Jackson are just going to have a tough time getting around him inside. I certainly am not suggesting that These guys won't be able to adjust, just that at 6'7 and 6'8 they won't be able to simply stand by the basket and get put backs. This kid will work them inside. I absolutely was not impressed with him offensively just that he is able to get rebounds. That's the only point I was making. Boardman is a much improved team.

[MCGal]

If he is an OSU football recruit, will he even play basketball this season?

1) OSU likes to have kids graduate early and get down on campus. They've done that a lot in recent years at least

2) Not that I think it's a good reason not to play but the whole risk of major injury factor comes in.

[hs sports fan]

If he is an OSU football recruit, will he even play basketball this season?

1) OSU likes to have kids graduate early and get down on campus. They've done that a lot in recent years at least

2) Not that I think it's a good reason not to play but the whole risk of major injury factor comes in.

The poster was referring to junior J.T. Moore. Since he is only a junior, he will probably play anyway. According to Scout.com, Moore is 6'3", 240 pounds.

herecoemtembears-

This will be Moore's 3rd season on varisty for Boardman, so it's not like the bigs at Jackson and Hoover have never played against him. Last year, Henninger scored 45 in 2 games against Boardman.

[Shady29]

THe other teams will be ready for JT. He was an All-League player his freshman year for the Spartans, and has gotten bigger and better every year. I'm sure the teams will spread things out, and try to get him out of the paint, where he dominates. The Spartans will need Pesta, Soller, and Martin to have big years, but I'm interested to see how Jordan Karzmer does at the Point. He's a bit undersized, but has a good shot, and distributes the ball to his teammates well. He played a lot at the end of last year, and if he handles the pressure well, I can see the Spartans putting up some points.

[MCGal]

Thanks hs sports fan. I haven't seen the kid play (don't think I have at least lol).. will have to check out the Spartans this winter.

Agreed with the last two btw... if he is a 3 year varsity player, he's not surprising anybody at this point.

[Shady29]

McGal, he's a pretty big kid. Heck of an athlete. I think he can use one more year of basketball, but I don't know if he'll be back his Senior year. Anyways, this is probably going to be the CHANCE for their best year in a while, Senior heavy team, with some big guys in the paint, and some underclassmen who need experience.

[eml2700]

Are either the 6'9 sophmore (cant remember his name) or the freshman (humphrey) suppose to see varsity time this year for Perry? Just curious.

[bryan21]

Are either the 6'9 sophmore (cant remember his name) or the freshman (humphrey) suppose to see varsity time this year for Perry? Just curious.

if you are talking about the sophomore transfer from St. V then no. And im not sure about humphrey. Im not positive about this so correct me if im wrong, but if humphrey is the tall lengthy kid with an adam morrison mustache then im pretty sure he is a junior.

[eml2700]

if you are talking about the sophomore transfer from St. V then no. And im not sure about humphrey. Im not positive about this so correct me if im wrong, but if humphrey is the tall lengthy kid with an adam morrison mustache then im pretty sure he is a junior.

No, that is someone else, he is like 6'7, dressed varsity last year.
Humphrey is a freshman, like 6'5 or so and looks nothing like adam morrison. :)

[bryan21]

No, that is someone else, he is like 6'7, dressed varsity last year.
Humphrey is a freshman, like 6'5 or so and looks nothing like adam morrison. :)

lol ok then totally disregard that last post.

[futureknight25]

IMO I dnt see how Hoover is going to be that good. I dont have them beating the Eagles , Jackson or Perry. Besides Gross and Evans who do they have that will be a significant contributor.

[ballboy42]

IMO I dnt see how Hoover is going to be that good. I dont have them beating the Eagles , Jackson or Perry. Besides Gross and Evans who do they have that will be a significant contributor.

They have a 6'4'' senior nick sommers who can shoot the nba 3 and take it to the hole and finish. he led them this whole summer. got mvp down in wheeling shootout and they beat jackson in the championship by 10 points.

[hs sports fan]

They have a 6'4'' senior nick sommers who can shoot the nba 3 and take it to the hole and finish. he led them this whole summer. got mvp down in wheeling shootout and they beat jackson in the championship by 10 points.

He scored 27 points for Hoover last season (tied for 10th on the team) Seems like a lot to expect him to be a big contributor. Wasn't he #42 for Hoover last year? :confused:

[HoopHound]

Thanks hs sports fan. I haven't seen the kid play (don't think I have at least lol).. will have to check out the Spartans this winter.

Agreed with the last two btw... if he is a 3 year varsity player, he's not surprising anybody at this point.

One other point that I can add to your original post, McGal...

It's my understanding that Boardman does NOT graduate kids early. So there likely won't be an early spring practice for the young man in Columbus.

If anyone can correct me on that, feel free... but I'm pretty certain about Boardman's early-grad policy. :shrug:

[thehasbeen95]

They have a 6'4'' senior nick sommers who can shoot the nba 3 and take it to the hole and finish. he led them this whole summer. got mvp down in wheeling shootout and they beat jackson in the championship by 10 points.

You must be on Hoover's JV squad. :shrug: :shrug: I dunno?????:angel:

[ballboy42]

He scored 27 points for Hoover last season (tied for 10th on the team) Seems like a lot to expect him to be a big contributor. Wasn't he #42 for Hoover last year? :confused:

just wait and watch. he will be leading the team in points and maybe rebounds. nobody really knows about him. hes got d1 offers already from the summer

[hs sports fan]

just wait and watch. he will be leading the team in points and maybe rebounds. nobody really knows about him. hes got d1 offers already from the summer

He may have a very good season, but don't come on here with the D-1 offers. He MAY have attracted the attention of some schools with a good summer, but you don't get offers based on one good summer.

[bluesteel4]

Summer ball is OK but really means nothing in the long run.So Hoover won in a summer league game wow who really cares.Coaches tend to coach a little more laxed and even try some different things that they may not try in a regular season game.Not saying Hoover wont be a good team but not in the class Jackson will be this season.No size besides the transfer from Mck.The Lane kid is not a good player he is just a thug on the court with no real skill.I see the league as follows.

1.Jackson
2.Glenoak
3.Perry
4.Mckinley
5.Hoover
6.Boardman
7.Lake
8.Fitch

[yellowandblue]

Summer ball is OK but really means nothing in the long run.So Hoover won in a summer league game wow who really cares.Coaches tend to coach a little more laxed and even try some different things that they may not try in a regular season game.Not saying Hoover wont be a good team but not in the class Jackson will be this season.No size besides the transfer from Mck.The Lane kid is not a good player he is just a thug on the court with no real skill.I see the league as follows.

1.Jackson
2.Glenoak
3.Perry
4.Mckinley
5.Hoover
6.Boardman
7.Lake
8.Fitch


I see it this way

1.Jackson
2.Hoover
3.Glenoak/Mckinley/Perry
4.Boardman/Lake
5.Fitch

You might even be able to throw Boardman and Lake in the third spot as well so who knows this year its quite even besides top 2.

[Shady29]

Who in the World does Hoover have coming back besides Evans that makes them finishing 1st or 2nd this year?... They were a Senior laden team that lost a lot. And they're going to finish higher than Jackson according to some fans?

[futureknight25]

Who in the World does Hoover have coming back besides Evans that makes them finishing 1st or 2nd this year?... They were a Senior laden team that lost a lot. And they're going to finish higher than Jackson according to some fans?

Thats my point exactly.

[HoopHound]

I just nuked 3 posts that speculated on the ID of a certain poster. As you "regular" posters know, attempting to "out" a poster is STRICTLY against forum and site rules.

If this continues, the thread will be completely deleted from site, and those attempting to "out" poster ID's will find themselves in "moderated user" status. For you newbies, that means every post you submit will be approved moderators OR Yappi before it appears in the threads.

It's NOT a fun way for a poster to take part.

I hope everyone's clear on this... there will be NO MORE WARNINGS.

[Shady29]

Back to the thread thanks to HH, who does McKinley have returning? Weren't they pretty young last year? McKinley will always be tough, and I can see them being a dark horse this year.
Also, Lake...I'm kind of clueless on them as well. I know they were a top team in the League last year...but who do they have coming back?

[American Dream]

Jackson does have big kids which makes them an easy choice. But I have a few questions: How come the Jackson big men rarely play with their backs to the basket? I went to a few summer league games this year and watched both big men at separate times try to defend at half court. Guards went right around them. Why are 6-8 kids trying to play defense at half court? I'm sorry, but I'm just not sure Fuline knows how to coach big kids.
The little guard, I believe it was the Pace kid, KILLED them at times this summer.

Why is Hoover a good choice to win the league? Because Monty knows how to use his players. I'm not sure I can say that about Fuline yet.

[yellowandblue]

Jackson does have big kids which makes them an easy choice. But I have a few questions: How come the Jackson big men rarely play with their backs to the basket? I went to a few summer league games this year and watched both big men at separate times try to defend at half court. Guards went right around them. Why are 6-8 kids trying to play defense at half court? I'm sorry, but I'm just not sure Fuline knows how to coach big kids.
The little guard, I believe it was the Pace kid, KILLED them at times this summer.

Why is Hoover a good choice to win the league? Because Monty knows how to use his players. I'm not sure I can say that about Fuline yet.

Dream I pick N.C also to finish high because Monty always has his team ready to go and they have descent talent this year.

[hs sports fan]

Back to the thread thanks to HH, who does McKinley have returning? Weren't they pretty young last year? McKinley will always be tough, and I can see them being a dark horse this year.
Also, Lake...I'm kind of clueless on them as well. I know they were a top team in the League last year...but who do they have coming back?

McKinley only lost James Hall (graduation) and Joe Gross (Hoover). They were their starting big men, so that definitely hurts. Stoney Lockett looked like a capable replacement when I saw them this summer. If Chris Snow has developed, he should have the opportunity to get a lot of PT. They have an overload of guards. Terrell Lipkins (12.5 ppg) and Jamon McClain (9.2 ppg) lead the way. Others back include Tommie Harris, Chris Mackey, David Morgan, and Sylvester Robinson. Sophomore Brandon Means should also be in the rotation at guard.

As for Lake, I don't know much about them. Guards Josh Habeck (7.7 ppg) and Alan Meffan (6.5 ppg) should lead the way for them. Inside they will probably be led by Nick Harig, Alex Loy, and Connor Groot. Perhaps bryan can give us more info.

[hs sports fan]

if you are talking about the sophomore transfer from St. V then no. And im not sure about humphrey. Im not positive about this so correct me if im wrong, but if humphrey is the tall lengthy kid with an adam morrison mustache then im pretty sure he is a junior.

The kid with the "Adam Morrison mustache" is probably Derek Burkholder. He is a junior. I'm assuming he will play in the post along with Tormasi, but who else will they have? If the kid from SVSM and Humphrey will be on JV, the only big guy I can think of is Voican. Will he play in the post at all?

[Shady29]

Sounds like McKinley should have a team that can turn some heads this year, and should be around the top of the league.

[ballin101]

Rise magazine released it top 5 teams from NEO and Jackson and Timken were nowhere to be found. I believe it was
1. Cleveland Benedict
2. Warren Harding
3. Garfield Heights
4. GlenOak
5. and I can't remember the #5 team

[bluesteel4]

Glenoak #4 in NEO now thats a joke....Not a very credible magazine if that is the rankings they came up with.

[hs sports fan]

Glenoak #4 in NEO now thats a joke....Not a very credible magazine if that is the rankings they came up with.

That's not a ludicrous ranking. I don't think they should be that high, but I could see them proving me wrong over the course of the season.

[H.S. Sports Junky]

This is going to be a great year for High School basketball. Perry will play a whole new type of basketball, slashing and moving the ball around with great athletes that can shoot outside and move to the basket. I still think that Hoover and Glenoak have the experience and the tallent to give anyone fits. It will be a year of the upset and a year that there is no clear dominant team. Hoover is well coached and Jackson has some horses to move the ball inside. Mckinley can never be overlooked. Especially after the run we saw last year. I look to see the team with experience such as Glenoak and Hoover to be favored. Who knows though when we shake it all up and the cream settles to the top.:cool:

[jacmckvik]

Just got back on this post. Nick Sommers is the real deal, no doubt about it!

[thehasbeen95]

Rise magazine released it top 5 teams from NEO and Jackson and Timken were nowhere to be found. I believe it was
1. Cleveland Benedict
2. Warren Harding
3. Garfield Heights
4. GlenOak
5. and I can't remember the #5 team
wow didn't know it was released. where can I get a copy.

[futureknight25]

This is going to be a great year for High School basketball. Perry will play a whole new type of basketball, slashing and moving the ball around with great athletes that can shoot outside and move to the basket. I still think that Hoover and Glenoak have the experience and the tallent to give anyone fits. It will be a year of the upset and a year that there is no clear dominant team. Hoover is well coached and Jackson has some horses to move the ball inside. Mckinley can never be overlooked. Especially after the run we saw last year. I look to see the team with experience such as Glenoak and Hoover to be favored. Who knows though when we shake it all up and the cream settles to the top.:cool:

How do u think that Hoover has more experience than Jackson? Hoover was mostly seniors last year.

[McK93]

Summer ball is OK but really means nothing in the long run.So Hoover won in a summer league game wow who really cares.Coaches tend to coach a little more laxed and even try some different things that they may not try in a regular season game.Not saying Hoover wont be a good team but not in the class Jackson will be this season.No size besides the transfer from Mck.The Lane kid is not a good player he is just a thug on the court with no real skill.I see the league as follows.

1.Jackson
2.Glenoak
3.Perry
4.Mckinley
5.Hoover
6.Boardman
7.Lake
8.Fitch
More evidence. Thank you.

[HoopHound]

Just got back on this post. Nick Sommers is the real deal, no doubt about it!

Good to know... but since Nick Sommers isn't exactly a "household name", you wanna tell us who he plays for?

Or is he another Stark County free agent? :stirthepot:

[ballboy42]

Good to know... but since Nick Sommers isn't exactly a "household name", you wanna tell us who he plays for?

Or is he another Stark County free agent? :stirthepot:

Kid plays for hoover

[flowerman]

This is going to be a great year for High School basketball. Perry will play a whole new type of basketball, slashing and moving the ball around with great athletes that can shoot outside and move to the basket. I still think that Hoover and Glenoak have the experience and the tallent to give anyone fits. It will be a year of the upset and a year that there is no clear dominant team. Hoover is well coached and Jackson has some horses to move the ball inside. Mckinley can never be overlooked. Especially after the run we saw last year. I look to see the team with experience such as Glenoak and Hoover to be favored. Who knows though when we shake it all up and the cream settles to the top.:cool:

I hope Perry is not too hyped up. I would like to see them surprise their opponents. I know Coach Toth is pretty high on them. Tormasi will be a big important part of the team. He will be able to run and run and run without being tired.

[yellowandblue]

wow didn't know it was released. where can I get a copy.

Hasbeen whats up my man its true and North Royalton I beleive was fifth. Im hoping Timkens coaching staff gave everyone on the team a copy of this rise magazine I love it more fire for the Trojans.

[jacmckvik]

Good to know... but since Nick Sommers isn't exactly a "household name", you wanna tell us who he plays for?

Or is he another Stark County free agent? :stirthepot:

There were four post about Nick Sommers on this thread and one of yours was right in the middle of them. C'mon Hoop Hound! LOL

[HoopHound]

There were four post about Nick Sommers on this thread and one of yours was right in the middle of them. C'mon Hoop Hound! LOL

You have any idea of how many players, teams, and conferences this ol' hounddog brain tries to follow and the info/data I try to consume? :blush: :dang:

Give the hound (and many others) a break... a couple extra keystrokes won't hurt you (they're no charge here in Yappi). Besides, it promotes the player/team you're talking about to a wider audience (many who don't visit the forum daily)!! :)

[LOUIE 44]

I think we've talked enough about Nick Summers!

He's a good kid and a very good basketball player, and will help Hoover this year.

Now lets wait untill the season starts then we will see how good all these kids are!

" GO VIKES "

[ballboy42]

How do u think that Hoover has more experience than Jackson? Hoover was mostly seniors last year.

there were only 2 seniors last year actually

[bluesteel4]

How many starters does Hoover return?

[ballboy42]

How many starters does Hoover return?

they have two from hoover and joe gross from mckinley.

[kent16]

What about that jackson full court pressure it is menacing

[bluesteel4]

they have two from hoover and joe gross from mckinley.

Is Lane one of those starters.Some games I saw he started some he didnt.Not that he is that good anyway just wondering.

[Cager]

I said this before and I believe it even more today...the Federal league is more open, and more balanced than it has ever been. I think any team but Fitch could actualy win it. The favorite may be Jackson, but GO, Perry, Lake, and yes NC and even Boardman are no slouches and hard to beat at home. So if everyone beats each other up, who knows.

[HoopsRGreat]

I said this before and I believe it even more today...the Federal league is more open, and more balanced than it has ever been. I think any team but Fitch could actualy win it. The favorite may be Jackson, but GO, Perry, Lake, and yes NC and even Boardman are no slouches and hard to beat at home. So if everyone beats each other up, who knows.

I agree the league is up for grabs. On paper Jackson should dominate, but there are some teams with good talent and good coaching so on any given night any team can win.

Fed will be a great place to catch some good games this year.

[futureknight25]

I said this before and I believe it even more today...the Federal league is more open, and more balanced than it has ever been. I think any team but Fitch could actualy win it. The favorite may be Jackson, but GO, Perry, Lake, and yes NC and even Boardman are no slouches and hard to beat at home. So if everyone beats each other up, who knows.

With the exception of Perry I think that the league was up for grabs last year as well. Lake surprised a lot of ppl last yr. I think its Mck and Boardman's turn to turn heads this year.

[perrycrazy09]

the federal league may be one of the stronger leagues in the state this year. A lot of quality teams all with diferent styles. Should make a good season for all of us . In my opinion its a 3 team race. Jackson, GO, and Perry are atop the league. Good luck federal league.

[runnaman24]

I think Hoover has some pretty quality talent, but it wont be easy. Ill try ot take a stab at it. They have a couple of big men with Gross, two other young kids that were about 6-3 and decently built...I think they were sophomores?? Then Lane is just a banger down low and he might be 6-5 at the tallest. Evans is a solid point guard that needs to take more control and less shots from outside. Nettleton is a good shooter who brought some good energy off the bench last season. Sommers is a 6-3 forward who reminds me of Luke Jackson (former Cav), but just in the style that the lefty plays...he is a decent shooter and deceptively good around the basket. I think there were also decent younger PG's in Wackerly and Daugherty. I also forgot Greg Beck who played quite a bit last year.

Other than that I cant really remember many people that played last year for Hoover. Im trying to figure out how good they will be too. Some other Hoover people might have to give me help....I think a starting line-up would look something like:
Gross-Center,6-7ish
Beck-forward, 6-4
Sommers-forward, 6-3
Nettleton-SG, 5-10
Evans-PG, 5-10

Bench: Lane 6-5, Veldhuzen 6-3(I know I screwed this name up), Daugherty 5-10, Wackerly 5-10

What would other teams tentative starters look like?

[H.S. Sports Junky]

I hope Perry is not too hyped up. I would like to see them surprise their opponents. I know Coach Toth is pretty high on them. Tormasi will be a big important part of the team. He will be able to run and run and run without being tired.

I think it all depends on who will step up from the soph. class. There are three that have a chance to start...if they can keep up with Toths running philosophy. There is also some size at that level and kids that play the Toth scrappy hard nosed basketball

[H.S. Sports Junky]

I agree the league is up for grabs. On paper Jackson should dominate, but there are some teams with good talent and good coaching so on any given night any team can win.

Fed will be a great place to catch some good games this year.

I agree. I think that Hoover always comes to play and is extreamly well coached. Jackson is big but we will see if they can hang when it comes to crunch time against the faster teams and against Glen Oaks outside game which will be tough to defend. I love the close games and the game within the game. We should see the best coached teams rise to the top this year.

[H.S. Sports Junky]

How do u think that Hoover has more experience than Jackson? Hoover was mostly seniors last year.

I just stated that they are well coached. I really think that Montgomery is a very good coach and does well making adjustments during the game. I was also talking about year in and year out, not just last year. Jackson will be tough, but not heads up on the rest of the Federal. You also got to look at what Mckinley did last year. They really came on last year and they had loads of underclassmen.

[futureknight25]

I think Hoover has some pretty quality talent, but it wont be easy. Ill try ot take a stab at it. They have a couple of big men with Gross, two other young kids that were about 6-3 and decently built...I think they were sophomores?? Then Lane is just a banger down low and he might be 6-5 at the tallest. Evans is a solid point guard that needs to take more control and less shots from outside. Nettleton is a good shooter who brought some good energy off the bench last season. Sommers is a 6-3 forward who reminds me of Luke Jackson (former Cav), but just in the style that the lefty plays...he is a decent shooter and deceptively good around the basket. I think there were also decent younger PG's in Wackerly and Daugherty. I also forgot Greg Beck who played quite a bit last year.

Other than that I cant really remember many people that played last year for Hoover. Im trying to figure out how good they will be too. Some other Hoover people might have to give me help....I think a starting line-up would look something like:
Gross-Center,6-7ish
Beck-forward, 6-4
Sommers-forward, 6-3
Nettleton-SG, 5-10
Evans-PG, 5-10

Bench: Lane 6-5, Veldhuzen 6-3(I know I screwed this name up), Daugherty 5-10, Wackerly 5-10

What would other teams tentative starters look like?

GlenOak
G: Storm Sanders 6'
G: CJ McCollum 6'2
G: TJ Sutton 5'9
F: David Tucker 6'4
C: Jimmy Darnley 6'4

[Shady29]

Boardman
PG Jordan Karzmer 5'8?
SG Ryan Pesta 6'3
SF Eric Soller 6'3
PF JT Moore 6'4
C Dev'ron Martin 6'4
All got starts last year and should be tough at home...Hopefully Goske can get some consistency outta this group!

[hs sports fan]

GlenOak
G: Storm Sanders 6'
G: CJ McCollum 6'2
G: TJ Sutton 5'9
F: David Tucker 6'4
C: Jimmy Darnley 6'4

Do you think Tucker will start over Turon Parker?

[HoopHound]

GlenOak
G: Storm Sanders 6'
G: CJ McCollum 6'2
G: TJ Sutton 5'9
F: David Tucker 6'4
C: Jimmy Darnley 6'4

What grade levels are these kids at, FK?

[HoopHound]

Boardman
PG Jordan Karzmer 5'8?
SG Ryan Pesta 6'3
SF Eric Soller 6'3
PF JT Moore 6'4
C Dev'ron Martin 6'4
All got starts last year and should be tough at home...Hopefully Goske can get some consistency outta this group!

Same question as I posed FK... what grade levels are these kids, Shady?

[ballin101]

GlenOak
G: Storm Sanders 6'
G: CJ McCollum 6'2
G: TJ Sutton 5'9
F: David Tucker 6'4
C: Jimmy Darnley 6'4

I think Parker or Martin will start over Tucker

G 6' Jr. Storm Sanders
G 6'2 Sr. C.J. McCollum
G 6' Soph Turon Parker or 5'9 Brandon Martin (starting QB)
G 5'9 Jr. T.J. Sutton
F 6'4 Jr. Jimmy Darnely

They're prolly go small and quick and depending on match ups Tucker may start some games like against a Jackson or Timken, or any team with a tall front court.

[Shady29]

Boardman
PG Sr. Jordan Karzmer 5'8?
SG Sr. Ryan Pesta 6'3
SF Sr. Eric Soller 6'3
PF Jr. JT Moore 6'4 (did commit to OSU for football)
C Sr. Dev'ron Martin 6'4
Experienced team HH, Pesta and Moore have been all league for the past few years, and I believe Soller/Martin were all league too. Spartans should be a good team this year.

[GOeaglez22]

Can anyone give any info on Parker? I've never heard of him.

[HoopHound]

Boardman
PG Sr. Jordan Karzmer 5'8?
SG Sr. Ryan Pesta 6'3
SF Sr. Eric Soller 6'3
PF Jr. JT Moore 6'4 (did commit to OSU for football)
C Sr. Dev'ron Martin 6'4
Experienced team HH, Pesta and Moore have been all league for the past few years, and I believe Soller/Martin were all league too. Spartans should be a good team this year.

Thanks, Shady. :)

The Spartans sure aren't blessed with a lot of size (for D-I standards, anyway). I know Moore is a lane-clogging muscleman... and Martin is tough under the glass... but I wonder how they'll do against teams wth bigger "bigs".

Jackson comes immediately to mind... and Hoover too. If I remember some previous posts, GlenOak has some decent size as well. :eek: :eek:

Geez... when I think of all the HUGE teams that Dan Gorski had, and they were all SO wasted. :mad: I remember one team 8-10 years ago, that had 5 kids at least 6'5, and 3 of those kids were OVER 6'6 (including Terrence Dials). He just pissed it all away. :wallbang: :wallbang:

It would be nice to sneak some of those guys back into maroon and white uniforms!! ;) I'd really like to see what Jimmy G. could do with size and talent like they had back then. :cool:

[Shady29]

Thanks, Shady. :)

The Spartans sure aren't blessed with a lot of size (for D-I standards, anyway). I know Moore is a lane-clogging muscleman... and Martin is tough under the glass... but I wonder how they'll do against teams wth bigger "bigs".

Jackson comes immediately to mind... and Hoover too. If I remember some previous posts, GlenOak has some decent size as well. :eek: :eek:

Geez... when I think of all the HUGE teams that Dan Gorski had, and they were all SO wasted. :mad: I remember one team 8-10 years ago, that had 5 kids at least 6'5, and 3 of those kids were OVER 6'6 (including Terrence Dials). He just pissed it all away. :wallbang: :wallbang:

It would be nice to sneak some of those guys back into maroon and white uniforms!! ;) I'd really like to see what Jimmy G. could do with size and talent like they had back then. :cool:

Your tellin me HH! Martin and Moore can bang underneath with bigger kids, because they both have great wingspan and play more like 6'6. Soller and Pesta also are very good shooters and they're gonna put up some big time point totals.
As for Gorski!, I can remember those teams too. They had the ability to go very far and UNderachieved! I remember those teams, with Dials, Josh Colla, Upthegrove, AH Davis, Stefanovic?, Finnamore, Krieger. They had lineups of like..6'2, 6'5, 6'6, 6'8, 6'10. and Gorski had the opportunity to take them to State. Remember the heartbreaker to a .500 McKinley team in the District Ship?! Sad day. I wish Gorski well in Liberty, he's a good guy, but he had some chances with Boardman, and they were flushed into the toilet. :shrug:

[ballin101]

Can anyone give any info on Parker? I've never heard of him.

Parker is a sophomore probably ABOUT 6' 6'1. he's left handed and reminds me a lot of Sanders. Good passer, quick, and looking to drive. He has some good tools and could be a very good player in the future but this year he'll be a solid role player on a loaded guard team. He played jv i believe as a frosh

[Shady29]

WHo does Fitch have returning...? Anybody decent? I think Stockman graduated...? Not sure. Might be another long year down in A-town.

[HoopHound]

WHo does Fitch have returning...? Anybody decent? I think Stockman graduated...? Not sure. Might be another long year down in A-town.

No clue, Shade. Nobody from Austintown ever bothered to submit a roster from '07-'08. :dang:

Falcon basketball fans are a VERY rare breed around here. We had one REALLY good Fitch poster last season, but haven't heard much from him since then. There are a few over in football, but as soon as that season is over, they disappear 'til next August. :shrug:

[hs sports fan]

Jon Ballard, Jr. 11.5 ppg
Joh Williams, Sr. 6.5 ppg
Mike Miles, Sr. 3.5 ppg
Nick Crum, Sr. 2.5 ppg
Ty Underwood
DeAndre Richardson, Jr.
Eric Braxton, Sr.
Matt O'Brien, Jr.
Adam Gleussner, Sr.

[HoopHound]

Jon Ballard, Jr. 11.5 ppg
Joh Williams, Sr. 6.5 ppg
Mike Miles, Sr. 3.5 ppg
Nick Crum, Sr. 2.5 ppg
Ty Underwood
DeAndre Richardson, Jr.
Eric Braxton, Sr.
Matt O'Brien, Jr.
Adam Gleussner, Sr.

Is that Fitch, hssf?

And whoever it is... are the grade levels up-to-date?

[hs sports fan]

Is that Fitch, hssf?

And whoever it is... are the grade levels up-to-date?

Yes and yes.

[flowerman]

Anybody know who might start at Perry, besides Voican and Capuano?

[futureknight25]

Anybody know who might start at Perry, besides Voican and Capuano?

Id say that Josh Tormasi, Brian Sengos, Tyler Light , Derek Burkholder and Jordan Humphries will compete for 3 spots.

[theAdjuster17]

jackson has good shooters their pg in particular and they are a solid team but they didn't look that great in summer

[ballboy42]

jackson has good shooters their pg in particular and they are a solid team but they didn't look that great in summer

Thank you for saying that cause now im not the only person that dosnt sound crazy about jackson being bad this year

[futureknight25]

At this point, Jackson would be my choice... but I reserve the right to change my mind before the season officially starts. :blush: :angel:

I think the TOUGH thing is picking #2 through #7. I think you can throw a blanket over Hoover, GlenOak, Perry, and Boardman... with McKinley and Lake hiding in the weeds at half-a-hair's width back. Other than my current choice Jackson, the only other slot in the standings I'm pretty certain about is Fitch @ #8.

ANY of the other 6 teams could finish in ANY order. I think it'll likely come down to how healthy these teams are throughout the season, and who takes advantage of a couple of the others stumbling for whatever reasons.

We're in for quite a horserace in the Fed this season. :cool:

I would have to agree with this post 100%. I think Perry will shock a lot of ppl where they finish this year.

[Shady29]

Agreed- Just like in football, a lot of teams are close.

[Glenoak5009]

No way Tucker doesnt start.
GlenOak Starters
PG- S.Sanders
SG-CJ McCullom
G-TJ Sutton... Should be Paker.
PF- D.Tucker
C- J.Darnley

bench should be ok. dont expect much more than an 8 to 9 man rotation

[aauplayer]

Jackson should look something like this

Returning Starters
Mark Henniger 6'8" JR
Josh Egner 6'7" JR
Eric Pace 5'10" SR

Returning Letterman
Danny Tamburo 5'10" SR
Brad Dupont 5'11" JR
Jake Batcho 6'4" JR
Michael Schull 5'10" SO

They had a decent JV and freshman team so they could have some other kids that could contribute.

[The_Essentials]

Look for Jackson to make a run to District tournament this year. They have two big men who are both being recruited by D1 schools and a solid back court. They have experience, size, athleticism, and a well rounded team with kids who contribute to alot of different aspects of the game. There toughest games should be against GlenOak, Hoover, and Timken. Jackson beat GlenOak 3 times during the regular season and once over the summer, they lost to Hoover once, and I don't believe they played Timken. If I know the schedule correctly Jackson plays all these games away, so look for the Bears to be tested in 3 hostile gyms. The Polar Bears should win the league, but not without a few test and bumps in the road.

[futureknight25]

Look for Jackson to make a run to District tournament this year. They have two big men who are both being recruited by D1 schools and a solid back court. They have experience, size, athleticism, and a well rounded team with kids who contribute to alot of different aspects of the game. There toughest games should be against GlenOak, Hoover, and Timken. Jackson beat GlenOak 3 times during the regular season and once over the summer, they lost to Hoover once, and I don't believe they played Timken. If I know the schedule correctly Jackson plays all these games away, so look for the Bears to be tested in 3 hostile gyms. The Polar Bears should win the league, but not without a few test and bumps in the road.

Jackson did play Timken last year at home and lost by 26 I believe.

[ballboy42]

Look for Jackson to make a run to District tournament this year. They have two big men who are both being recruited by D1 schools and a solid back court. They have experience, size, athleticism, and a well rounded team with kids who contribute to alot of different aspects of the game. There toughest games should be against GlenOak, Hoover, and Timken. Jackson beat GlenOak 3 times during the regular season and once over the summer, they lost to Hoover once, and I don't believe they played Timken. If I know the schedule correctly Jackson plays all these games away, so look for the Bears to be tested in 3 hostile gyms. The Polar Bears should win the league, but not without a few test and bumps in the road.

You dont know what your talking about. All jackson has are two big guys. They dont have anybody else to help them out this year.And they are not that hard to guard. Hoovers got the Fed locked up this year.

[thehasbeen95]

You dont know what your talking about. All jackson has are two big guys. They dont have anybody else to help them out this year.And they are not that hard to guard. Hoovers got the Fed locked up this year.

good for hoover. hope you are right. but Still please don''t think in any way that Hoover is just gonna cake walk through the federal. they still have to go through three teams in the Federal league....Jackson, Glenoak, and Perry. don't think for one minute that these three solid teams are gonna rollover for Hoover.

[eml2700]

When to formal practices start? The federal league should be interesting this year..

[vikinghead]

First day of OHSAA sanctioned practice is November 10 for the boys.

[starktops]

i do not see how you can not mention mckinley as a contender for the federal league title this year. they will be better than most people think.

[shotcaller]

No way Tucker doesnt start.
GlenOak Starters
PG- S.Sanders
SG-CJ McCullom
G-TJ Sutton... Should be Paker.
PF- D.Tucker
C- J.Darnley

bench should be ok. dont expect much more than an 8 to 9 man rotation

Why should it be Parker, he has not proven himself on the varsity level. He will have to earn it, T.J. is a returning starter. He has proven himself on the varsity level for two years. Obviously you know nothing about the game, and have been clueless the last couple of years!!

[Big O]

Granted Jackson has more height up front than anyone else, but guard play will be more important in winning the league this year than in the past several when a couple of 7-footers dominated the floor.
GlenOak is probably the leader when it comes to guards.
But, good guards and a front court of somewhere around 6-4 to 6-6 will make anybody competitive with Jackson.
It should be a good season with no consensus favorite.

[The_Essentials]

You dont know what your talking about. All jackson has are two big guys. They dont have anybody else to help them out this year.And they are not that hard to guard. Hoovers got the Fed locked up this year.

Jackson has no one else but the two bigs? Hm. You must not have been at the Hoover Jackson game when Brad DuPont hit 6 three pointers on Hoover. To me that sounds pretty hard to guard. An with the loss of Porrini, Hoover doesn't have a true leader to handle the ball. Niles is a good player but he is just two weak to handle pressure against other players. Eric Pace brings experience to Jackson and Dan Tamburro is a good defender. But, i do agree with Big O that you have to say GlenOak has the best guards in the league. Perry also has a good guard in Capuano.

[futureknight25]

Jackson has no one else but the two bigs? Hm. You must not have been at the Hoover Jackson game when Brad DuPont hit 6 three pointers on Hoover. To me that sounds pretty hard to guard. An with the loss of Porrini, Hoover doesn't have a true leader to handle the ball. Niles is a good player but he is just two weak to handle pressure against other players. Eric Pace brings experience to Jackson and Dan Tamburro is a good defender. But, i do agree with Big O that you have to say GlenOak has the best guards in the league. Perry also has a good guard in Capuano.

Dupont really impressed me in their game against Jackson. He really stepped up IMO

[Spartan0505]

Boardman also has 2 good big men like Chase Hammond who is 6-4 and Kevin Johnson who is 6-3 to come off the bench. They will likely play mostly JV because they are only juniors but Boardman has good talent, and can be a big factor this year in the fed!

[HoopHound]

Boardman also has 2 good big men like Chase Hammond who is 6-4 and Kevin Johnson who is 6-3 to come off the bench. They will likely play mostly JV because they are only juniors but Boardman has good talent, and can be a big factor this year in the fed!

:confused: If they're both "good big men" and JUNIORS (as opposed to sophies or frosh)... why would they play "mostly JV"?

:shrug:

[BIG ED]

My personal opinion is that the league may be more balanced among 4-5 teams than it has in the past. Jackson has to be the early favorite, but I don't feel they will dominate league play. It could be a very interesting year in the Federal League.

[HoopsRGreat]

My personal opinion is that the league may be more balanced among 4-5 teams than it has in the past. Jackson has to be the early favorite, but I don't feel they will dominate league play. It could be a very interesting year in the Federal League.

Jackson is as deep if not deeper in talent than the Jackson team that went to Columbus in 2002.

Unless they have a lot of injuries they should be able to win 17-18 wins this
year during the regular season. They should dominate the boards.

[hs sports fan]

Jackson is as deep if not deeper in talent than the Jackson team that went to Columbus in 2002.

Unless they have a lot of injuries they should be able to win 17-18 wins this
year during the regular season. They should dominate the boards.

If they are so deep, then how come Fulline only played 8 against Harding at the Akron Shootout this summer?

[futureknight25]

If they are so deep, then how come Fulline only played 8 against Harding at the Akron Shootout this summer?

Who won tht game

[HoopsRGreat]

If they are so deep, then how come Fulline only played 8 against Harding at the Akron Shootout this summer?

That is a question you would have to ask Fuline?

Please get back to us on this, I'm anxious to hear the spin on this one.

[hs sports fan]

Who won tht game

It was close throughout, but Harding pulled away at the end and won by 8-10 points. The summer is the time to get kids experience. If they aren't good enough to play then, how can you expect them to perform during the season?

[Spartan0505]

They are both juniors and Boardman already has 3 pretty good big guys who have started for 3 or 4 years, but Chase and Kevin will get their playing time off the bench

[HoopHound]

I fully expect the Hoover Vikings to win their football playoff game on Saturday evening vs Twinsburg...

This got me wondering...

How many "basketball" Vikings are playing football?

Official practice DOES begin next Monday (11/10), so the football playoffs would definitely begin cutting into basketball for these players at that point (should they win on Saturday). :shrug:

I realize that most Hoover posters are still VERY busy over in the football forum. Hopefully, some may peek in here and give us some info. :cool:

[hs sports fan]

These are guys that played last year:

Joe Cerretta-Sr.
Dan Nettleton-Sr. (2.3 ppg)
Greg BEck-Sr. (6.7 ppg)

[runnaman24]

These are guys that played last year:

Joe Cerretta-Sr.
Dan Nettleton-Sr. (2.3 ppg)
Greg BEck-Sr. (6.7 ppg)

Dont mean to be picky, but Nettleton is a junior. Beck should start this year and Nettleton might start, but he brings lots of energy and spark to the team off the bench.

[Shady29]

They are both juniors and Boardman already has 3 pretty good big guys who have started for 3 or 4 years, but Chase and Kevin will get their playing time off the bench

HH, they're behind a few good All-League big men in JT Moore, and Dev'ron Martin. Chase Hammond is more of a football player who can jump out of the gym, and Johnson I'm not too sure about. Both decent players, but they're going to have to make their impacts off of the bench.

[hs sports fan]

Dont mean to be picky, but Nettleton is a junior. Beck should start this year and Nettleton might start, but he brings lots of energy and spark to the team off the bench.

You're right. My bad. I went off memory instead of looking it up.

[HoopHound]

These are guys that played last year:

Joe Cerretta-Sr.
Dan Nettleton-Sr. (2.3 ppg)
Greg BEck-Sr. (6.7 ppg)

Dont mean to be picky, but Nettleton is a junior. Beck should start this year and Nettleton might start, but he brings lots of energy and spark to the team off the bench.

WOW... so only THREE varsity hoopsters are playing football?

I'm a bit surprised at that.

[Rookie]

WOW... so only THREE varsity hoopsters are playing football?

I'm a bit surprised at that.
Hoop, It is difficult to be a multisport athlete at Hoover if basketball is in the mix. Don’t be surprised if 1 or 2 of the players listed above are not on the hard court this winter.

[FightWithTheShaolin]

Hoop, It is difficult to be a multisport athlete at Hoover if basketball is in the mix. Don’t be surprised if 1 or 2 of the players listed above are not on the hard court this winter.

Your so right rookie, Dan Nettleton quit the team last week.

[HoopHound]

Hoop, It is difficult to be a multisport athlete at Hoover if basketball is in the mix. Don’t be surprised if 1 or 2 of the players listed above are not on the hard court this winter.

Is it one of those situations where the athlete is "discouraged" from playing by the basketball staff... or something the kids themselves think they need to do to get better at their chosen sport?

I hope it's the latter. I'm bothered by any coach that doesn't encourage kids from enjoying multiple activities in HS. :Ohno:

You only go through high school ONCE. You should be able to experience as many positive things as possible, be it multiple-sports, sports/music, etc.

[FightWithTheShaolin]

Is it one of those situations where the athlete is "discouraged" from playing by the basketball staff... or something the kids themselves think they need to do to get better at their chosen sport?

I hope it's the latter. I'm bothered by any coach that doesn't encourage kids from enjoying multiple activities in HS. :Ohno:

You only go through high school ONCE. You should be able to experience as many positive things as possible, be it multiple-sports, sports/music, etc.

Coach Montgomery does discourage his players from playing other sports and he is not liked by the players. And Nettleton quit because Monty took the fun out of the game and he didnt want to be a part of his system.

[theAdjuster17]

jackson is good.......................but not fed champs

[HoopHound]

jackson is good.......................but not fed champs


Who, then?

[HoopsRGreat]

jackson is good.......................but not fed champs


If Jackson does not win the Federal League outright, there necessarily will and should be some soul searching taking place. The talent level is as good if not better than the 2002 State Final Four Team.

[Fox41]

HRG...

what on earth are you smoking?? The 2002 state final four team went 8 deep with seniors. They had tremendous guard play as well as a solid 6'8 force in the middle. This years guards are suspect and do not have the playmaking ability as some of the players on the 2002 team.

Furthermore, the Federal League is much more balanced than it was in 2002. We all know that Taylor was the dean of the coaches in the league and everybody tried to run his system. The league, today, has far better coaching with much more balance from top to bottom.

I think there are a few teams that could make a run at the title. I think Fuline has taken the program to a higher level than the previous regime. He has a solid youth program and he knows how to communicate with kids. His players want to play for him out of respect and not fear. I am not sure that could have always been said prior to his arrival.

By the way...what was the score of that Tuslaw/Northwestern game a few years back???

[HoopsRGreat]

This years team has three big men 6'4", 6'7", 6'8" that are all athletic with basketball skills and two to three years of varsity experience, one guard with three years experience, one guard with two years experience, two guards with one year experience, three or four swing players 6'1" to 6'3" that are very athletic and good basketball players.

The 2002 team had one big guy with one and a half year experience and a very good guard with two years experience. The rest of the team were players that played hard with limited basketball skills and played within the system intelligently and they played relentless defense.

No doubt the youth program is a plus in the Jackson system and as far as todays coaches being better than in 2002 that is true in some cases. Tom McBride was around back then, Hoover was around, Alberts was coaching at Wooster. Since then Hoover has left, Taylor is gone and Alberts is gone. Added since then Montgomery and Greynolds have joined so I would say the coaching is about even with the exception that two of the best in recent Stark County history have exited.

I did not say that Hoover, Glenoak, McKinley and never count a McBRIDE team out, could all make a run at a title. I said that with the talent the Polar Bears have they should dominate.

As far as your other question,the last time Northwestern had a well coached, great team is during the Roy Bates era. Is that when you mean? Because if memory serves me correctly they have never made it past a regional opener since then. I know they had a very good team a couple of years ago, but after they got past the weak teams in the Wooster District they uderperformed falling flat.

[ohiosportsnut01]

I think it all depends on who will step up from the soph. class. There are three that have a chance to start...if they can keep up with Toths running philosophy. There is also some size at that level and kids that play the Toth scrappy hard nosed basketball

does perry have any sophmores on varsity?

[bluesteel4]

[QUOTE=Fox41;3388450]HRG...

I think Fuline has taken the program to a higher level than the previous regime. He has a solid youth program and he knows how to communicate with kids. His players want to play for him out of respect and not fear. I am not sure that could have always been said prior to his arrival.

QUOTE]

Taken the program to a higher level? Are you serious? Taylor was winning Fed championships like they were going out of style and took 2 teams to the State final 4.Not sure how it is at a higher level now? Fuline is a good guy and good coach but I certainly wouldnt say the program is at a higher level yet.Gotta win some titles and some big tournament games before that can be said.

Also if you played for Taylor out of fear than that just shows how weak of a person you were.Not saying you FOX41 just saying in general. Taylor always was respected by his players and we all busted our butts for him.

[futureknight25]

does perry have any sophmores on varsity?

6'9 Dallas Harper will see some limited time on the Varsity floor.

[HoopHound]

6'9 Dallas Harper will see some limited time on the Varsity floor.

6'9????? What grade is he in, FK?

A lot of things can be coached and taught, but "heighth" ain't one of 'em... this is a BIG kid!! :cool:

[bearvirus]

the summer means a lot. it sets the tone for december. if you were playig during the game you would of felt all of the tension betwenn jackson and us. and no glenoak dosnt have the best one two punch. you will see during this season that cj and storm are going to want the ball the entire game and almost no one else will be scoring during the season. so its going to be easy guarding gleanoak.

what is in the water in north canton? the vikes will be just like when larry taylor was at jackson......Jackson's biach.

[BIG ED]

HoopHound, Dallas Harper is a sophomore. From what I hear he is a work in progress, but will no doubt be well worth the "work" over the next couple of years.

[Glenoak5009]

Why should it be Parker, he has not proven himself on the varsity level. He will have to earn it, T.J. is a returning starter. He has proven himself on the varsity level for two years. Obviously you know nothing about the game, and have been clueless the last couple of years!!


haha. i know nothing about the game? i love basketball i watch old tapes of bird and jordan. i have forgot more about basketball than you know. It should be parker because what does T.J. do besides shot three's? we have CJ for that. i would understand if he had branched out and worked on driving to the hole in 2 years but when you can only do one thing defenses know this. He was a key peice when kosta was there because he could shot the 3. Kosta was getting double and triple teamed and kicks it out and he would be open. Now they are all gaurds with the exception of like 2 or 3 kids. You say i have been on T.J. for years? you must take it personal. but why have you only posted like 15 times if you have been looking for years. Sounds like someone has sour grapesss.:angel: :stirthepot: ;)

[ballboy42]

what is in the water in north canton? the vikes will be just like when larry taylor was at jackson......Jackson's biach.

whats in the water? a FLC is in the water at north canton

[Bearly Breathing]

I guess from what I understand from good sources Gross will be hitting his shots from the stands. He quit from what I hear.

[keller84]

Ihave watched from afar the last few years and have seen lots of trouble and turmoil in "randyland". I t is sad to see a coach with lots of wins self destruct in the tournament go through asst coaches like water,have good solid kids not want to play for him because he makes the game unbearable and takes it to the limit every year.I wll not even mention the failed attempts of the move ins that did not work out.Plain and simple if this guy was not insecure and would let things run their course he could have had a good thing going here.Coach Hertler does things right and does right by his players and that is why he has success year in and year out.

[FightWithTheShaolin]

I guess from what I understand from good sources Gross will be hitting his shots from the stands. He quit from what I hear.

Completely false. He was considering quitting but then changed his mind and he will play with the team.

[jorden]

If Jackson does not win the Federal League outright, there necessarily will and should be some soul searching taking place. The talent level is as good if not better than the 2002 State Final Four Team.

Fuline's teams have gradually gotten better each year, but lets be honest- this team is not state tourney material. They don't have the guard savy to go along with the big man play. The streakiness of there field goal shooting last year and the lack of a great point guard will hurt them against a physical disciplined defensive minded team. They haven't experienced the success that comes along with overcoming all the obsticles that they will face in the FED throughout the year. They will falter from time to time and that should be expected to an extence since they don't really "know" how to dominate the whole game EVERY game. My guess is they will be 16-4/15-5 with St. V / @ Hoover / Timken / and one-two other little setbacks in the Fed. (I say 7-3 or 8-2 in the Fed) Meaning they will have a chance at the FEd title but a share would be great for them as well.


Bottom line I really enjoy Fuline's gradual success, and the silence of the annoying anti-Fuline Jacksonites toward the end of last season. He has a team which could win the league and have a chance at a District Runner up but they are not at the level of a state final 4 team or even like the Glenoak, McK, or Perry Teams of late which dominated the last three years in the Fed.

[bluesteel4]

No point guard play? I would watch Brad Dupont.In yesterdays scrimmage he played exceptional.He was the best player on the court most of the day.

[Mackinbiner]

No point guard play? I would watch Brad Dupont.In yesterdays scrimmage he played exceptional.He was the best player on the court most of the day.

Yes, Brad will make believers of those who think Jackson's guards are a non-factor. His aggressiveness will be quite an asset. But to say he "was the best player on the court most of the day" at yesterday's scrimmage can easily be questioned. Neither, Springfield, Euclid, or Zanesville had an answer for Mark Henniger. This team should be alot of fun to watch.

[jorden]

No point guard play? I would watch Brad Dupont.In yesterdays scrimmage he played exceptional.He was the best player on the court most of the day.

Actually I believe I wrote LACK of a GREAT point guard. not "no point guard play"

Dupont is pretty good but not great. He was up and down last year and has much to prove before you can call him a GREAT point guard.

The fact is he and the other guards have to sustain their, as you would say - greatness??? for a full 20 games not just a scrimmage here and a game there- and I don't see that happening to their guards who were just average last year.

Like I said they will be a good team but the lack of "great" decision makers at guard play MIGHT hamper them in a few of their games.

[gridiron333]

Actually I believe I wrote LACK of a GREAT point guard. not "no point guard play"

Dupont is pretty good but not great. He was up and down last year and has much to prove before you can call him a GREAT point guard.

The fact is he and the other guards have to sustain their, as you would say - greatness??? for a full 20 games not just a scrimmage here and a game there- and I don't see that happening to their guards who were just average last year.

Like I said they will be a good team but the lack of "great" decision makers at guard play MIGHT hamper them in a few of their games.

Hmm..well what qualifies to be a GREAT?! point gaurd. He's no Raymar Morgan but as good as any in the league this year.

[hs sports fan]

Hmm..well what qualifies to be a GREAT?! point gaurd. He's no Raymar Morgan but as good as any in the league this year.

When did Raymar play point guard?

[futureknight25]

Actually I believe I wrote LACK of a GREAT point guard. not "no point guard play"

Dupont is pretty good but not great. He was up and down last year and has much to prove before you can call him a GREAT point guard.

The fact is he and the other guards have to sustain their, as you would say - greatness??? for a full 20 games not just a scrimmage here and a game there- and I don't see that happening to their guards who were just average last year.

Like I said they will be a good team but the lack of "great" decision makers at guard play MIGHT hamper them in a few of their games.

I dont think Evans had a good enough season last year to be named a great pg and you have the Vikings beating Jackson. Hoover doesnt have much inside play either with Gross being a big man who likes to drift to the outside. Jackson will lose to Timken and ST V but they will win the Federal League with G.O. trailing close behind.

[jorden]

I dont think Evans had a good enough season last year to be named a great pg and you have the Vikings beating Jackson. Hoover doesnt have much inside play either with Gross being a big man who likes to drift to the outside. Jackson will lose to Timken and ST V but they will win the Federal League with G.O. trailing close behind.


The Jackson-Hoover game is being played at Hoover. These kids are teenagers and as we always see teams who should win-don't always-and it is always hard to win at the dare I say ,"win tunnle" aghhh:wallbang:

Back to my original point, people shouldn't say Jackson needs to question themselves if they would share the FLC title- be happy with any type of a fed crown (if that happens) and don't expect them to win each and every FLC game. They are finally learning how to win games (as we saw toward the end of last year) and they will do very well this year.

Actually, I could see McK giving them a potential upset, physical play and pressure defense- alonge with a little pay back from last years beat down at the field house:shrug:

[hs sports fan]

As for Evans, I agree he wasn't "great" but very good player his senior year, more complete player than Dupont could be this year- and they didn't win the FLC either, so that doesn't really mean anything in this conversation.

He was referring to sophomore Nyles Evans, not N'Gai Evans, who graduated 2 years ago.

[jorden]

thanks, he totally slipped my mind! how dumb!!:wallbang:

My bad Future

fixed it

[gridiron333]

Right now, as it stands, I think Jackson has to be the favorite going into every federal league match up. IMO...here's why..

They've got 2 of the biggest centers/forwards in the league with the most experience. Mark Henniger has started since his freshman year and Josh Egner started as a soph. and both entering their junior year.

Brad Dupont, watch out, could be one of the best players in the league this year. Has improved immensely after already having a good year last year coming off the bench. Has a great shot, plays good defense and knows the key to the offense is to get the big boys the ball to get his open looks.

Eric Pace has been a consistent ball handler for Jackson the last 2 years and I hope fills that role again this year, along with the ability to knock down open shots.

Jackson has got a good bench with athletes on it.

This team may look young, but they all have experience, and I hope they reach their potential.

[GOeaglez22]

No way Tucker doesnt start.
GlenOak Starters
PG- S.Sanders
SG-CJ McCullom
G-TJ Sutton... Should be Paker.
PF- D.Tucker
C- J.Darnley

bench should be ok. dont expect much more than an 8 to 9 man rotation

From what I hear it will be Storm, CJ, TJ, Darnley and Parker starting with Tucker getting a lot of playing time also.

[hs sports fan]

From what I hear it will be Storm, CJ, TJ, Tucker and Parker starting with Tucker getting a lot of playing time also.

What about Darnley?

[GOeaglez22]

What about Darnley?


My bad I said Tucker twice I meant to say Jimmy as a starter instead of Tucker.

[bucksdabomb]

who will be the standouts in this league? i know Storm Sanders can play. who else though

[Spartan0505]

JT Moore will be a standout.... i think this year could be different for Boardman becauase they have more talent than many years in the past

[gridiron333]

Brad Dupont-Jackson
Mark Henniger-Jackson
Josh Egner- Jackson
CJ McCullom- Glenoak
Storm Sanders- Glenoak
Capuano- Perry

[futureknight25]

From what I hear it will be Storm, CJ, TJ, Tucker and Parker starting with Tucker getting a lot of playing time also.

IMO Tucker should start over Parker but Greaynolds likes having 4 guards on the floor I guess.

[bintz]

Plus, when hoover does play jackson, whos going to guard the 6'3'' shooting guard Nick Sommers, they have no other player that can match up to him

I did not relize we were dealing with the next MJ.....

[DawgInBearCountry]

Actually I believe I wrote LACK of a GREAT point guard. not "no point guard play"

Dupont is pretty good but not great. He was up and down last year and has much to prove before you can call him a GREAT point guard.

The fact is he and the other guards have to sustain their, as you would say - greatness??? for a full 20 games not just a scrimmage here and a game there- and I don't see that happening to their guards who were just average last year.

Like I said they will be a good team but the lack of "great" decision makers at guard play MIGHT hamper them in a few of their games.

I have to agree here. I think you saw that in the scrimmage Weds. It's not just sustaining for a full 20 minutes but also for a full 4 quarters. After you get past the first 3 or 4 chairs, they are young on the bench. Not just the sophomores but also in varsity experience. They had some tough seniors last year who played alot of quality time last year. I question the bench.

IMO the thing to watch will be how the team plays when Henninger and Egner are off the floor. They did not look to have the bangers/rebounders they need when they're sitting.

A few questions...
Are they deep enough? I know they have guards, but what about bigs off the bench? What happens if they're in foul trouble?
Can teams manage the 2 bigs and then take advantage when they're sitting?

As is always the case, I believe the Fed will be much closer then the pre-season chatter predicts. I don't think you can count any of these top teams out.

HERE'S TO A GREAT SEASON!!! :clap:

[aauplayer]

I have to agree here. I think you saw that in the scrimmage Weds. It's not just sustaining for a full 20 minutes but also for a full 4 quarters. After you get past the first 3 or 4 chairs, they are young on the bench. Not just the sophomores but also in varsity experience. They had some tough seniors last year who played alot of quality time last year. I question the bench.

IMO the thing to watch will be how the team plays when Henninger and Egner are off the floor. They did not look to have the bangers/rebounders they need when they're sitting.

A few questions...
Are they deep enough? I know they have guards, but what about bigs off the bench? What happens if they're in foul trouble?
Can teams manage the 2 bigs and then take advantage when they're sitting?

As is always the case, I believe the Fed will be much closer then the pre-season chatter predicts. I don't think you can count any of these top teams out.

HERE'S TO A GREAT SEASON!!! :clap:

Unless Henniger and Egner are in foul trouble why would they ever be off the floor.

Jackson is going to miss the 2 senior guards from last year as they provided great leadership and understood their roles on the team and did not need the glory.

The bench has some depth but is limited in size they should be able to get some experience in the first 3 games before they get tested against Timken.

The scrimmage on Wednesday exposed the guards to not handle pressure very well hopefully the coaching staff can fix that issue.

For the first time in the last several years the fed is really wide open but because of Henniger and Egner Jackson should still be favored but I think any one of 5 teams could win it because each team has major flaws.

[DawgInBearCountry]

Unless Henniger and Egner are in foul trouble why would they ever be off the floor.

Jackson is going to miss the 2 senior guards from last year as they provided great leadership and understood their roles on the team and did not need the glory.

The bench has some depth but is limited in size they should be able to get some experience in the first 3 games before they get tested against Timken.

The scrimmage on Wednesday exposed the guards to not handle pressure very well hopefully the coaching staff can fix that issue.

For the first time in the last several years the fed is really wide open but because of Henniger and Egner Jackson should still be favored but I think any one of 5 teams could win it because each team has major flaws.

Yes foul trouble. I hate to bring the refs into preseason discssions but they are the great equalizers.

I agree I think this should be a great season and a competitive one this year.

[DawgInBearCountry]

Jackson should look something like this

Returning Starters
Mark Henniger 6'8" JR
Josh Egner 6'7" JR
Eric Pace 5'10" SR

Returning Letterman
Danny Tamburo 5'10" SR
Brad Dupont 5'11" JR
Jake Batcho 6'4" JR
Michael Schull 5'10" SO

They had a decent JV and freshman team so they could have some other kids that could contribute.

my daughter is a Jackson athlete and the rumor around the school is that their Batcho the big guys' backup just quit the team

anyone know?

[vikingsbaseball22]

hoover will win easy this year jacksons overrated but glenoak and perry will be tough

[4thandshort]

hoover will win easy this year jacksons overrated but glenoak and perry will be tough

Dude you're nuts. Hoover will not be that good. First of all Gross was going to quit actually did. Then Monty went and talked to him for 2 hours and he is back. Jackson will beat Hoover no doubt another loss in the win tunnel :eek:
darn! Glenoak we will struggle with because Monty's teams don't play well on the road. Should be an interesting year. I'm curious to see how much of a football mentality cerretta, nettleton, beck, and sarbaugh bring to the team. They need to toughen in my opinion

[runnaman24]

Not for sure, but I heard that Nettleton wont be playing and that could hurt the team alot. He brought alot of spark and hustle off the bench. Im also not sure about Cerreta or Sarbaugh playing anymore.

[ohiobballstar]

I see the league as a three team race.

1.Jackson
2.Glenoak
3.Mckinley

[starkfan79]

One thing I Know forsure is that Hoover will compete every game. Jackson in my opinion is the favorite but in no means are they the FAV like Perry was last year. I just don't see them running through the Fed like The Panthers did last year. They will have to come ready to play every game. Also I think Mck Glenoak and Perry could be a spolier and this league could be a toss up. Also I heard that Capuano could be missing 3-6 weeks due to something wrong with his legs. If true would be a big knock on Perry in the beginning of the season. Perry plays Jackson early in the season I think.

[ballboy42]

Dude you're nuts. Hoover will not be that good. First of all Gross was going to quit actually did. Then Monty went and talked to him for 2 hours and he is back. Jackson will beat Hoover no doubt another loss in the win tunnel :eek:
darn! Glenoak we will struggle with because Monty's teams don't play well on the road. Should be an interesting year. I'm curious to see how much of a football mentality cerretta, nettleton, beck, and sarbaugh bring to the team. They need to toughen in my opinion

How will hoover not be good this year? They lost by 2 to the best aau team from chicago called Ice down at Wright State. And they won the wheeling shootout which jackson beat glenoak and then hoover beat jackson by 10 in the championship game.

[hs sports fan]

How will hoover not be good this year? They lost by 2 to the best aau team from chicago called Ice down at Wright State. And they won the wheeling shootout which jackson beat glenoak and then hoover beat jackson by 10 in the championship game.

And they beat GlenOak down there 2 summers ago. But guess what? The Eagles went to Columbus and Hoover couldn't make it out of the district semis. The summer means NOTHING when it comes to who wins during the season.

[hs sports fan]

I see the league as a three team race.

1.Jackson
2.Glenoak
3.Mckinley

I was very disappointed in what I saw from McKinley in their first scrimmage. I think they may struggle again because of their killer schedule.

[aauplayer]

I was very disappointed in what I saw from McKinley in their first scrimmage. I think they may struggle again because of their killer schedule.

Why is everybody in love with McKinley. They were not very good last year and while they were young so was everybody else in the federal league except Perry.
They will have good athletic guards but they did not shot the ball very well last year. The best two post players from last year are not on the team. They had a very good JV team but no size.

The league will be very balanced with no clear cut favorite like the past couple years. Still think there are 5 teams that could win it with Jackson being the early favorite but GlenOak, Hoover, Boardman or Lake could win it. Perry, McKinley and Fitch will compete but do not see them being able to win enough games on the road to win the league.

[hs sports fan]

They will have good athletic guards but they did not shot the ball very well last year. The best two post players from last year are not on the team. They had a very good JV team but no size.



They did not shoot the ball well in the scrimmage either. Stoney Lockett played well inside when I saw them this summer, but didn't do much in the scrimmage. Sophomore Steve Miller gives them some size, but he is very raw right now.

[bluesteel4]

Why is everybody in love with McKinley. They were not very good last year and while they were young so was everybody else in the federal league except Perry.
They will have good athletic guards but they did not shot the ball very well last year. The best two post players from last year are not on the team. They had a very good JV team but no size.

The league will be very balanced with no clear cut favorite like the past couple years. Still think there are 5 teams that could win it with Jackson being the early favorite but GlenOak, Hoover, Boardman or Lake could win it. Perry, McKinley and Fitch will compete but do not see them being able to win enough games on the road to win the league.

I don't think everyone is in love with Mckinley but you always have to respect them. Always gonna have athletes just a matter of wether or not they are great basketball players or just athletic kids trying to play basketball.This season I think could go either way for them it will be interesting to see.

[oldhoopsguy]

1) jackson - hard to deal with their size & guards are just good enough to get them the ball vs pressure
2) glenoak - combine their guards with jacksons bigs and its see you in c-bus but too weak inside hurts them
imo these 2 tms are a cut above the others but with injuries, eligiblity, etc. it can change quickly in hs basketball
3) hoover - monty's tms are always hard to beat at home
4) mckinley - could jump over hoover if kids stay eligible and work hard
5) boardman - can't make the jump into the upper level - too many ???
6) perry - too young and inexperienced at key spots to make any kind of run at it
7) lake - hard to pick them this low - mcbride always has them playing hard and overachieving
8) fitch - needs to get out of the fed and into a lg they can compete in with any of their sports

[cappyap]

1) jackson - hard to deal with their size & guards are just good enough to get them the ball vs pressure
2) glenoak - combine their guards with jacksons bigs and its see you in c-bus but too weak inside hurts them
imo these 2 tms are a cut above the others but with injuries, eligiblity, etc. it can change quickly in hs basketball
3) hoover - monty's tms are always hard to beat at home
4) mckinley - could jump over hoover if kids stay eligible and work hard
5) boardman - can't make the jump into the upper level - too many ???
6) perry - too young and inexperienced at key spots to make any kind of run at it
7) lake - hard to pick them this low - mcbride always has them playing hard and overachieving
8) fitch - needs to get out of the fed and into a lg they can compete in with any of their sports

I don't know old guy? Perry might just be the surprise team keep your glass eye on them old pal.lol just kidding with ya.:angel:

[BigBulldog]

Why is everybody in love with McKinley. They were not very good last year and while they were young so was everybody else in the federal league except Perry.
They will have good athletic guards but they did not shot the ball very well last year. The best two post players from last year are not on the team. They had a very good JV team but no size.

The league will be very balanced with no clear cut favorite like the past couple years. Still think there are 5 teams that could win it with Jackson being the early favorite but GlenOak, Hoover, Boardman or Lake could win it. Perry, McKinley and Fitch will compete but do not see them being able to win enough games on the road to win the league.

Why is everybody in love with McKinley?

Maybe because they have the best basketball program in the history of Ohio basketball.

Maybe because they have the best winning percentage in the NATION.:hello:

[morecowbell]

Why is everybody in love with McKinley?

Maybe because they have the best basketball program in the history of Ohio basketball.

Maybe because they have the best winning percentage in the NATION.:hello:

Don't worry Mckinley will be back at the top in no time.

[futureknight25]

Don't worry Mckinley will be back at the top in no time.

IMO it will be at least 5 seasons before the pups are back at the top of the state.

[ballboy42]

And they beat GlenOak down there 2 summers ago. But guess what? The Eagles went to Columbus and Hoover couldn't make it out of the district semis. The summer means NOTHING when it comes to who wins during the season.

yea that was 2 summers ago. im sure kosta didnt even play down there.

[hs sports fan]

yea that was 2 summers ago. im sure kosta didnt even play down there.

He did play.

[4thandshort]

All I know is that the summer doesn't mean a whole lot. What if kids have a baseball tournament or football or vacation for example and aren't there. Plus in the summer there aren't 2,000 fans watching. There isn't any pressure no publicity no tv. It's completely different. Personally I think the summer is a very overrated time. And I heard that Cerretta Sarbaugh Nettleton and Beck are all playing. I don't see Cerretta or Sarbaugh playing at all if any. Should be an interstin year

[ballboy42]

All I know is that the summer doesn't mean a whole lot. What if kids have a baseball tournament or football or vacation for example and aren't there. Plus in the summer there aren't 2,000 fans watching. There isn't any pressure no publicity no tv. It's completely different. Personally I think the summer is a very overrated time. And I heard that Cerretta Sarbaugh Nettleton and Beck are all playing. I don't see Cerretta or Sarbaugh playing at all if any. Should be an interstin year

If you are a good enough player all that publicity and tv crap shouldnt affect your game at all. But the federal league will be a very wild and crazy year this year. All kinds of upsets will happen.

[yankee2109]

Gotta love the Stark County Bias!!!!!
Boardman will NOT finish 7th this year pal. They have so much returning talent, i Love how people just throw Fitch and Boardman at the bottom just like in football! After Jackson and GO, I think Boardman has a shot with returning players such as Soller, Pesta, Martin, Moore. These are All-League Players and don't overlook the Spartans.

why shouldnt they throw them at the bottom.thats where they finish every year.

[y2h]

Jackson has to be the front runner especially after how they played Timken so close last year, after them I would say GlenOak, they have arguable the best guards and maybe 1-2 punch in the northeast ohio with McCollum and Sanders. Also the summer means nothing the season isn't untill December so it doesn't really matter what happened in June. Evans is a good player and will be very good in the future but how can you say no one can stop a kid when he only averaged 8 or 9 ppg last yr??he'll have to prove that during the season.
Evans wasnt asked to score last year, we had a couple other kids who could fill it up pretty well. youll see that average go up this season. as for everyone picking Jackson...ok they got 2 decent big guys...they have nothing in the backcourt...it should come down to Hoover and Glenoak, possibly Mckinley depending on how they rebound from last season. Jackson could be in the mix but they arent head and shoulders (pun intended) above anyone. and dont forget a veteran Boardman team that has been building to this season...i think it will be a balanced competitive league this year.

[Spartan0505]

Moore is overrated?? yeah thats why he is going to Ohio State! Your right, only the overated kids go to Ohio State. JT did make 2nd team all northeast ohio inland district for football and has started varsity basketball since he was a freshman... and he is only a junior! Come on

[McK93]

Evans wasnt asked to score last year, we had a couple other kids who could fill it up pretty well. youll see that average go up this season. as for everyone picking Jackson...ok they got 2 decent big guys...they have nothing in the backcourt...it should come down to Hoover and Glenoak, possibly Mckinley depending on how they rebound from last season. Jackson could be in the mix but they arent head and shoulders (pun intended) above anyone. and dont forget a veteran Boardman team that has been building to this season...i think it will be a balanced competitive league this year.I agree with all of this, especially about Jackson. I know those two bigs are great but I haven't heard anything about the backcourt. Those guys need to be able to knock down jumpers or teams will just pack it in around those guys. I just need more info about their guards before I anoint them champs.

[hs sports fan]

I agree with all of this, especially about Jackson. I know those two bigs are great but I haven't heard anything about the backcourt. Those guys need to be able to knock down jumpers or teams will just pack it in around those guys. I just need more info about their guards before I anoint them champs.

Shooting is the strength of Jackson's backcourt. Michael Shull and Brad Dupont are the second best shooting combination in the county. Eric Pace is a decent shooter as well. The only problem could be breaking the press, but they did a decent job against Timken at the end of last season.

[gridiron333]

Jackson's Brad Dupont is going to have an excellent year this year and next. He's a great player. The kid can shoot the basketball. He's made 3's in scrimmages this year 2 or 3 feet behind the line. He plays good defense and plays aggressive. Tell me Jackson has noone in the backcourt after you see this kid play.

[McK93]

Shooting is the strength of Jackson's backcourt. Michael Shull and Brad Dupont are the second best shooting combination in the county. Eric Pace is a decent shooter as well. The only problem could be breaking the press, but they did a decent job against Timken at the end of last season.Thanks. I still need to see it myself before I can predict anything for sure, but it sounds like the Polar Bears are the top dog.

[krd12]

Hoover fans don’t get too high on Gross. Sure he is a good shooter but he can’t rebound. Last year he was 3-4 inches taller then most of the players he went up for rebounds against and easily got beat. He just tips the ball around up in the air without securing it. Unless he gained some work effort since last year (which I don’t think he has considering the talk that he actually up and quit and had to be convinced to return) he will be no match for solid rebounders of other Federal League teams.

[ballin101]

I understand why Jackson is the front runner but it seems like everyone is just handing the federal league title to Jackson. It will be no cakewalk and with high expectations I will have to take the experienced GlenOak as my favorite. You can win any night when you have the best player in the county, and the best floor general too. I don't know why there is such fuss over Hoover they have to show me something first before I give them recongition over GlenOak and Jackson.
1. GlenOak
2. Jackson
3. Perry
4. Hoover
5. Mckinley
6. Boardman
7. Lake
8. Fitch

[mrbasketball22]

i think that player for player glenoak is hands down the better team ..... but glenoak has no one to match up with henniger and egner :shrug:

[GOeaglez22]

i think that player for player glenoak is hands down the better team ..... but glenoak has no one to match up with henniger and egner :shrug:

I second that

[The Butler]

Federal League capsule previews from The Rep.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=17&ID=443923&r=5&subCategoryID=29

[starkfan79]

I understand why Jackson is the front runner but it seems like everyone is just handing the federal league title to Jackson. It will be no cakewalk and with high expectations I will have to take the experienced GlenOak as my favorite. You can win any night when you have the best player in the county, and the best floor general too. I don't know why there is such fuss over Hoover they have to show me something first before I give them recongition over GlenOak and Jackson.
1. GlenOak
2. Jackson
3. Perry
4. Hoover
5. Mckinley
6. Boardman
7. Lake
8. Fitch

I agree with some of this but I can't agree with they have the best floor general in the leauge if your talking about Storm Sanders. yes the best player in the league as in CJ McCullom. But if you think Sanders is the best floor general then your team must be out of control.

[futureknight25]

i think that player for player glenoak is hands down the better team ..... but glenoak has no one to match up with henniger and egner :shrug:

This post doesnt make sense to me. If they were hands down the better team player for player ,then they would have a answer for Egner and Henninger

[futureknight25]

I understand why Jackson is the front runner but it seems like everyone is just handing the federal league title to Jackson. It will be no cakewalk and with high expectations I will have to take the experienced GlenOak as my favorite. You can win any night when you have the best player in the county, and the best floor general too. I don't know why there is such fuss over Hoover they have to show me something first before I give them recongition over GlenOak and Jackson.
1. GlenOak
2. Jackson
3. Perry
4. Hoover
5. Mckinley
6. Boardman
7. Lake
8. Fitch

Jackson beat GlenOak 3 times in a row last year so whats going to change this year. Henninger and Egner are both back and they are the reasons why GlenOak couldnt beat the Polar Bears.

[666777]

Nobody is giving the league title to Jackson though based on the way they finished last year and what they returned they should be the favored.
The league is extremely balanced on paper and you could see a team with two losses winning the league.
I think Fitch is better and will win at least one game this year they will not be a factor in the league.
Lake, McKinley and Perry all have the chance to be very good but probably do not have enough to win the league
GlenOak, Boardman, Hoover and Jackson all could win the league as they all have weaknesses.
Overall it should be a enjoyable season in the Fed

[sportswinner89]

Jackson is the favorite right now. But do not be surprised if Hoover or Glenoak make some noise this year. Both teams have good all around lineups that can run the floor.

[HoopHound]

I need some help...

I already have the complete rosters for...
Hoover
Jackson
Lake
Perry

Would any fans from these teams be kind enough to post the starters? The folks that submitted these rosters unfortunately didn't indicate the starters.

THANKS!!

[hs sports fan]

GlenOak will need to play some defense in order to make a run at the Fed title. They looked bad against Akron North tonight. It was a 2-point game with about 5 minutes to go, and North is down this year.

[Mackinbiner]

I need some help...

I already have the complete rosters for...
Hoover
Jackson
Lake
Perry

Would any fans from these teams be kind enough to post the starters? The folks that submitted these rosters unfortunately didn't indicate the starters.

THANKS!!

Jackson started -

Mark Henniger
Josh Egner
Eric Pace
Brad DuPont
Danny Tamburro

[HoopHound]

Jackson started -

Mark Henniger
Josh Egner
Eric Pace
Brad DuPont
Danny Tamburro

Thanks, Mack!!

Now down to HOOVER, PERRY, & LAKE!!

[StreakBaller]

LAKE BLUESTREAKS start

Josh Habeck
Allen Meffan
Derek Sitzlar
Trey Vaughn
Connor Groot

But don't be surprised to see Alex Loy, Bryan Babbo, or Nick Harig start at any time depending on the opponent or who's playing well.

[HoopHound]

LAKE BLUESTREAKS start

Josh Habeck
Allen Meffan
Derek Sitzlar
Trey Vaughn
Connor Groot

But don't be surprised to see Alex Loy, Bryan Babbo, or Nick Harig start at any time depending on the opponent or who's playing well.

I appreciate that, SB!! :cool:

Now only Perry & Hoover starters remain!!

[futureknight25]

I appreciate that, SB!! :cool:

Now only Perry & Hoover starters remain!!

Perry started
G # 12- Anthony Capuano
G #31- Jason Johnson
G #14- Brian Sengos
G # ?- Tyler Light
F # 24- Nick Voican

[HoopHound]

Perry started
G # 12- Anthony Capuano
G #31- Jason Johnson
G #14- Brian Sengos
G # ?- Tyler Light
F # 24- Nick Voican

FK... any way that you can give me a bit more info on Tyler Light?

Jersey number is unnecessary... just need his height (an educated guess would be fine) and grade level (this I'd like accurate! :) ).

Tyler was NOT included anywhere on the roster submitted to me earlier. :dang:

[BIG ED]

Tyler Light is 5-11.

[HoopHound]

Still looking for Hoover starting 5, and I'm caught up!!! I appreciate everyone's help so far. :thumb:

[4thandshort]

Hoover's starters are up in the air. Beck is getting back from Football. Lane got in trouble and will be out the 1st 4 games. Sommers was hurt and is back now. All I know is that the starting 5 will not be the same come tournament time. That is almost a guarantee. At the Perry Classic they started :

Dan Daugherty #22
Joe Gross #44
Jimmy Wackerly #10
Niles Evans #14
Cory Veldhuizen #34

But like I said that will definitely change I think as the season goes

[HoopHound]

Hoover's starters are up in the air. Beck is getting back from Football. Lane got in trouble and will be out the 1st 4 games. Sommers was hurt and is back now. All I know is that the starting 5 will not be the same come tournament time. That is almost a guarantee. At the Perry Classic they started :

Dan Daugherty #22
Joe Gross #44
Jimmy Wackerly #10
Niles Evans #14
Cory Veldhuizen #34

But like I said that will definitely change I think as the season goes

So noted... thanks 4th. :)

[flowerman]

Tyler Light is 5-11.

Tyler is a senior. He was Number one on their golf team and went to state and did well.

[the underdog]

Perry started
G # 12- Anthony Capuano
G #31- Jason Johnson
G #14- Brian Sengos
G # ?- Tyler Light
F # 24- Nick Voican

Perry's starting line up is:

G#12 Anthony Capuano 5'6
G#31 Jason Johnson 6'1
G#14 Brian Sengos 6'0
F#24 Nick Voican 6'6
C#30 Josh Tormasi 6'2

With #3 Tyler Light 6'2 rotating with Johnson and Sengos for the starting role.

[BigBulldog]

[quote=4thandshort;3442041]Hoover's starters are up in the air. Beck is getting back from Football. Lane got in trouble and will be out the 1st 4 games. Sommers was hurt and is back now. All I know is that the starting 5 will not be the same come tournament time. That is almost a guarantee. At the Perry Classic they started :

Dan Daugherty #22
Joe Gross #44
Jimmy Wackerly #10
Niles Evans #14
Cory Veldhuizen #34

But like I said that will definitely change I think as the season goes

An update with the Heights and class of the kids would be much appreciated and very helpfull.

Thank You

[BigBulldog]

Still looking for Hoover starting 5, and I'm caught up!!! I appreciate everyone's help so far. :thumb:

Why does it seem every year that Hoover is the last or one of the last teams to list there starters? Then you don't get the heights and year of the kids.

Then you don't get players who are projected to get good playing time either.:shrug:

[futureknight25]

Perry's starting line up is:

G#12 Anthony Capuano 5'6
G#31 Jason Johnson 6'1
G#14 Brian Sengos 6'0
F#24 Nick Voican 6'6
C#30 Josh Tormasi 6'2

With #3 Tyler Light 6'2 rotating with Johnson and Sengos for the starting role.

I thought Light was the starter. My mistake.

[HoopHound]

Why does it seem every year that Hoover is the last or one of the last teams to list there starters? Then you don't get the heights and year of the kids.

Then you don't get players who are projected to get good playing time either.:shrug:

No doubt a conspiracy, Big-B. ;)

Seriously, someone sent me Hoover's roster a while back, but I didn't have the starters. Here's the complete info...

Hoover (North Canton)

*34 Cory Veldhuizen F 6'4 Jr.
*10 Jimmy Wackerly G 5'11 Jr.
*22 Dan Daugherty G 5'10 Jr.
*14 Nyles Evans G 5'10 So.
*44 Joe Gross C 6'7 Sr.
30 Greg Beck F 6'4 Sr.
24 Joe Cerreta F 6'1 Sr.
50 Tyler Fausnight C 6'4 Jr.
32 Jerod Lane C 6'5 Sr.
20 Dan Nettleton F 6'0 Jr.
40 A J Sarbaugh F 6'0 Jr.
42 Nick Sommers F 6'3 Sr.

*starters

[starkfan79]

No doubt a conspiracy, Big-B. ;)

Seriously, someone sent me Hoover's roster a while back, but I didn't have the starters. Here's the complete info...

Hoover (North Canton)

*34 Cory Veldhuizen F 6'4 Jr.
*10 Jimmy Wackerly G 5'11 Jr.
*22 Dan Daugherty G 5'10 Jr.
*14 Nyles Evans G 5'10 So.
*44 Joe Gross C 6'7 Sr.
30 Greg Beck F 6'4 Sr.
24 Joe Cerreta F 6'1 Sr.
50 Tyler Fausnight C 6'4 Jr.
32 Jerod Lane C 6'5 Sr.
20 Dan Nettleton F 6'0 Jr.
40 A J Sarbaugh F 6'0 Jr.
42 Nick Sommers F 6'3 Sr.

*starters

Just some height corrections
22 Dan Daugherty 5'7 5'8 on a great day
20 Dan Nettleton 5'9- 5'10
32 Jerod Lane C 6'6

[BigBulldog]

No doubt a conspiracy, Big-B. ;)

Seriously, someone sent me Hoover's roster a while back, but I didn't have the starters. Here's the complete info...

Hoover (North Canton)

*34 Cory Veldhuizen F 6'4 Jr.
*10 Jimmy Wackerly G 5'11 Jr.
*22 Dan Daugherty G 5'10 Jr.
*14 Nyles Evans G 5'10 So.
*44 Joe Gross C 6'7 Sr.
30 Greg Beck F 6'4 Sr.
24 Joe Cerreta F 6'1 Sr.
50 Tyler Fausnight C 6'4 Jr.
32 Jerod Lane C 6'5 Sr.
20 Dan Nettleton F 6'0 Jr.
40 A J Sarbaugh F 6'0 Jr.
42 Nick Sommers F 6'3 Sr.

*starters

Thank You very much HoopHound,it's much appreciated.


I hope the Hoover fans take it easy on you for uncovering the conspiracy,and not allowing them to "Fly under the radar" this year.:) :eek:

[hs sports fan]

Fitch looked bad against Alliance tonight. Fitch was ahead by 6 after the 1st, but Alliance switched to a 1-3-1 and Fitch never made any adjustments, just kept turning the ball over. I don't see them beating anybody in the Fed again this year. On the bright side, I did like the play of freshman William Mahone.

[SkyIsTheLIMIT]

Ballboy42, i'd have to disagree with on the Hoover beating Jackson and correct me if im wrong but i thought u said something in a past post about Glenoak not being hard to defend because they only have 2 players...

First about the whole Hoover post in the beginning of the thread I was kind of suprised because everyone knows that the past games mean nothing.. ESPECIALLY summer league games. Also since when does height always win? I dont think Joe Gross is really anything special.. He doesnt use his height at an advantage he is a shooter and hardly stays downlow.

Opening night Glenoak had 4 guys in double digits. Yes, CJ and Storm and the 1-2 guys to go to and want the ball in their hands the most and will have to at times give the ball up when defended well but dont think there isnt anyone on Glenoaks team that can produce points for them.. I think jackson will have a hard time guarding them both. They're fast and up tempo, CJ has handles like no one else in the county besides Capuano from Perry. BUTTTTT... Jackson has them when it comes to the inside game. With Henniger and Eger as the postmen thats Jackson best chance of winning of course is going to them.. They had a freshman last year #4 who i saw play when he was in 8th grade and he has a pure shot but i dont know what impact he will have this year like in guarding someone like CJ McCollum or even Storm.. TJ Sutton and Jimmy Darney are both good players for Glenoak who can put the ball in the hoop. If you think one guy with good defense can stop CJ then you obviously havent seen him play.. Teams do everything to try and stop him. He can hit shots with hands in his face easily. From what I hear he's got way better since last year which is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

I think in the end though it will obviously be Glenoak and Jackson at the top for the Fed either one could make a run this year.. i think Hoover will be a close 3rd with McKinley. No matter what even when McKinley is young and not a lot of big names they still make noise.

[ballin101]

Ballboy42, i'd have to disagree with on the Hoover beating Jackson and correct me if im wrong but i thought u said something in a past post about Glenoak not being hard to defend because they only have 2 players...

First about the whole Hoover post in the beginning of the thread I was kind of suprised because everyone knows that the past games mean nothing.. ESPECIALLY summer league games. Also since when does height always win? I dont think Joe Gross is really anything special.. He doesnt use his height at an advantage he is a shooter and hardly stays downlow.

Opening night Glenoak had 4 guys in double digits. Yes, CJ and Storm and the 1-2 guys to go to and want the ball in their hands the most and will have to at times give the ball up when defended well but dont think there isnt anyone on Glenoaks team that can produce points for them.. I think jackson will have a hard time guarding them both. They're fast and up tempo, CJ has handles like no one else in the county besides Capuano from Perry. BUTTTTT... Jackson has them when it comes to the inside game. With Henniger and Eger as the postmen thats Jackson best chance of winning of course is going to them.. They had a freshman last year #4 who i saw play when he was in 8th grade and he has a pure shot but i dont know what impact he will have this year like in guarding someone like CJ McCollum or even Storm.. TJ Sutton and Jimmy Darney are both good players for Glenoak who can put the ball in the hoop. If you think one guy with good defense can stop CJ then you obviously havent seen him play.. Teams do everything to try and stop him. He can hit shots with hands in his face easily. From what I hear he's got way better since last year which is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

I think in the end though it will obviously be Glenoak and Jackson at the top for the Fed either one could make a run this year.. i think Hoover will be a close 3rd with McKinley. No matter what even when McKinley is young and not a lot of big names they still make noise.

Great post agree 100% with everything you said. And yes the McCollum kid is definitely special, he will be a fine player at the collegiate level

[DawgInBearCountry]

Ballboy42, i'd have to disagree with on the Hoover beating Jackson and correct me if im wrong but i thought u said something in a past post about Glenoak not being hard to defend because they only have 2 players...

First about the whole Hoover post in the beginning of the thread I was kind of suprised because everyone knows that the past games mean nothing.. ESPECIALLY summer league games. Also since when does height always win? I dont think Joe Gross is really anything special.. He doesnt use his height at an advantage he is a shooter and hardly stays downlow.

Opening night Glenoak had 4 guys in double digits. Yes, CJ and Storm and the 1-2 guys to go to and want the ball in their hands the most and will have to at times give the ball up when defended well but dont think there isnt anyone on Glenoaks team that can produce points for them.. I think jackson will have a hard time guarding them both. They're fast and up tempo, CJ has handles like no one else in the county besides Capuano from Perry. BUTTTTT... Jackson has them when it comes to the inside game. With Henniger and Eger as the postmen thats Jackson best chance of winning of course is going to them.. They had a freshman last year #4 who i saw play when he was in 8th grade and he has a pure shot but i dont know what impact he will have this year like in guarding someone like CJ McCollum or even Storm.. TJ Sutton and Jimmy Darney are both good players for Glenoak who can put the ball in the hoop. If you think one guy with good defense can stop CJ then you obviously havent seen him play.. Teams do everything to try and stop him. He can hit shots with hands in his face easily. From what I hear he's got way better since last year which is really gonna be fun to watch this year.

I think in the end though it will obviously be Glenoak and Jackson at the top for the Fed either one could make a run this year.. i think Hoover will be a close 3rd with McKinley. No matter what even when McKinley is young and not a lot of big names they still make noise.

Jax, like any high school team, is only as good as the guards bringing the ball down the court.

They blew out Firestone and were challenged all night Tuesday by a tough Carrollton team. Their D was lax and they had a lot of trouble with the trap/press. They also missed alot of easy shots & layups. In my opinion, they were out of control @ times.

#4 Shull is a streaky shooter who MUST learn to play better D if he wants more time on the court.

Against Carrollton their starting guard and co-captain Tamburro was pulled early and often due to a cut over his eye. It seemed like they had a problem getting it to stop bleeding, or so the refs thought.

Egner is a beast! High energy, running the court and jumping out of the gym. He also is their point man on the press. Henninger is in one word consistent. He is not as flashy as Egner but, you blink and he's got 20 and 10 on the stat sheet.

I asked about their bench before and they have not answered my question yet. They need to play better if they want to succeed in the Fed.

IMO the guards and bench have got to play better. We'll better gauge them Tuesday @ the Fieldhouse!

[CheckMySwag]

I totally agree with what SKY is saying about Hoover, Jackson, and Glenoak. I think most of us can agree on that Jackson and Glenoak will be at the top with Hoover right behind. CJ is the best in the Fed and the county. Storm, Darney, and Sutton will all play big roles this year if Glenoak is to be successful because I'm going to be realistic and there will be a FEW games at most that some teams will shut down CJ or he'll have an off night.. possibly. I don't know toomuch about Hoover this year but I'm sure them and Mckinley both will be pretty good. I think McKinley is just an athletic team and school always.

[starktops]

i am bringing this thread back. i have seen many of the federal league teams so far this year and i have come up with the following observations. jackson will probably be the fed champ this year. glenoak second. i would not be surprised if mckinley and hoover round out the top four. i initially had perry, lake and boardman battling for the fifth spot and fitch rounding things out. lake does not have the wins but have played tough against a hard opening schedule. boardman i thought was going to be really good, but grades and suspensions have left me wondering how good they will be this year. perry i thought was going to be stronger, but it looks like they are struggling. any of the three (lake, boardman, perry) could knock hoover or mckinley out of the top four, but that remains to be seem. by the way timken is the best team in the county.

[HoopHound]

i am bringing this thread back....

I'm glad you did, starktops. :)

It gives me a PERFECT opportunity to nag FL posters for a couple things the "roster project" needs!!

We now have rosters AND starting lineups for ALL Federal League teams except two...

Austintown Fitch
GlenOak

All we are needing is a varsity roster containing player name, height, and grade level. Uniform numbers and playing positions are strictly optional.

Don't forget... after listing the roster, PLEASE indicate the starting 5!!

Thanks in advance for everyone's help. :cool:

[ballboy42]

everyone thought that jackson was so good! i told everybody that jacksons was not going to win the federal league. now with some losses and they have to go to hoover to play, dont like there chances of winning there. so they are going to be out of the running for sure.

[Shady29]

Im gonna go with Glenoak or Hoover winning the FL championship, followed by Jackson and Mckinley. I dont know much about Perry, but assuming they have enough to take out the next 3 (Boardman, Fitch and Lake). Boardman needs Dev'ron Martin, and could be a tough game for anyone come tournament (FL Tourney too). I'm interested to know the standings on FL play as of now...anyone?

[HoopHound]

..I'm interested to know the standings on FL play as of now...anyone?

Shady... I did this quickly. I think the numbers are accurate...

Hoover 3-0
GlenOak 3-0
McKinley 2-1
Jackson 2-1
Lake 1-2
Perry 1-2
Boardman 0-3
Fitch 0-4

With the win over the Pups, Hoover is certainly in the driver's seat. GlenOak is right there too, and McK and Jackson are FAR from being out of it. Still LOTS of FL hoops to be played. :shrug:

[starktops]

i am not giving up on jackson just yet. you can see the top four is just as predicted with as was said earlier “a lot of federal league basketball to be played”. there are two big games left on jackson’s schedule that will put them right at the top of the league. glenoak has three big games left. It is all up for grabs. I have seen many of these teams play, jackson and mckinley play the best defensively. glenoak can score a ton, hoover will be competitive, but i think the vikings will falter as the season wears on boardman, jackson, and glenoak are no push overs. remember that this schedule beat hoover up so bad they lost to lake at the end of the season last year. right now i am sticking with jackson, glenoak, mckinley, hoover.

[just a fan]

Shady... I did this quickly. I think the numbers are accurate...

Hoover 3-0
GlenOak 3-0
McKinley 2-1
Jackson 2-1
Lake 1-2
Perry 1-2
Boardman 0-3
Fitch 0-4

With the win over the Pups, Hoover is certainly in the driver's seat. GlenOak is right there too, and McK and Jackson are FAR from being out of it. Still LOTS of FL hoops to be played. :shrug:

Hoover and GlenOak are in the driver's seat simply because they have no conference losses. But, it's not much of a driver's seat because there's a lot of basketball to be played.

Hoover, Jackson and GlenOak still have to play each other and GlenOak also still has to play McKinley. McKinley has already played two of the top four teams. In contrast, GlenOak still has to play Hoover, Jackson and McKinley. I predict a three-way tie.

If only the Federal League had a real conference tournament....

[starktops]

sorry i do not quite get the conference tourney comment. if you take the standings at the end of conference play and seed 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 4 plays 5. winners advance and the tournament champion wins all their games...... what is it you would like to see?

[McK93]

sorry i do not quite get the conference tourney comment. if you take the standings at the end of conference play and seed 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 4 plays 5. winners advance and the tournament champion wins all their games...... what is it you would like to see?That's not correct. The point system, which I still don't know, determines the champ. I know for the first few years Hoover played Mckinley in the "championship" game and McKinley had no shot to "win" the title because Hoover already had more points. It's quite stupid to do it the way they do it now. Your system is exactly what SHOULD happen and it does but the winners of those games may not necessarily be moving on if they are deficient in points. For example, the 8 seed, say they upset everyone and win the "championship game" I don't believe they win regardless because of the regular season standings. I wish I could clear it up more, maybe someone can help me out with that point system.

[Shady29]

To the eye, the tourney seems to make sense, but Mck93 is right, there is some kind of weird point system that depicts the overall standings of everything.

[polar_purple]

If you are wondering how the Federal League title is determined in basketball (both boys and girls), here it is:

Step 1: Following all ten Federal League games (regular season & tourney), first place gets 9 pts, 2nd place gets 7 pts, 3rd place gets 6 pts, etc.

Step 2: The tourney champ gets eight points, runner-up seven points, third gets six points, etc.

Step 3: Add the two points together and you have the final standings.

As far as the tourney goes:
First Round: #1 plays #8, #2 plays #7, etc. Teams are ranked based off their finish in the regular season. If you lose, you move to the losers bracket, where you have no hope of finishing above #5, whereas if you win, you move to the winners bracket, where you cannot finish worse than #4. In other words - if you are to win in a game in the tourney - this would be it!!!

Second Round: The winners play each other with the winners of that game playing for the #1/2 positions and the losers playing for the #3/#4 position in the final round. The losers play each other, with the winners of that game playing for #5/#6 and the losers playing for #7/#8 in the final round.

Final Round: Winner of the #1/#2 game is crowned champ & gets 8 points, loser is #2 and gets 7 points. Etc., etc.