Who is the top PG in the State of Ohio??

[The Commander]

There are alot of goog Pg's in Ohio but I would have to say that Carl Jones and Randall Holt are the best Pg's...

[thehasbeen95]

good topic. I'll wait until everbody weighs in on it then I'll give you my TRUE and ONLY pick. but for now....you can't just say Carl Jones and randall Holt in NEO without even mentioning Desmar Jackson of Harding. He's a 6'5 pg that can do it all. deceptively strong considering his slender build. odd shot but quite effective. to sum him up VERY SMOOTH. I'll get back to you guys with my overall pick.

[thehasbeen95]

Anthony Wells of Shaker Hts
Carl Jones Garfield Hts
Randall Holt Glenville
Juwan Staten Thurgood Marshall
Storm Sanders Glenoak
C.J. McCollum Glenoak(thats what he is. he just can SHOOT.)
Ricky Johnson SVSM
Nate Tait Brush
Cameron Joyce SVSM
Jehvon Clarke Timken
and a few others that escape me right now.

[gonefishing]

Taylor wellman-norwood may be the best true PG in cincy
brandon howard-walnut hills

[Prepfan2008]

Juwan Staten

[hs sports fan]

Cameron Joyce SVSM


He graduated in 2007.

[D-Swizzel102]

Brad Loesing = THE TRUTH

Oh, wait...my bad :)

[FinalCountdown23]

There are a couple names on here that are very legit.. For example, Carl Jones and Juan Staten.. Other guys listed have much talent but shouldn't be considered a top PG quite yet.. There's one PG out there who probably is the BEST in the state that is not listed.. Derek Jackson of Cleveland Benedictine.. He's defintely the Top 3 PG's in the state of Ohio and it doesn't matter what grade level....

[thehasbeen95]

He graduated in 2007.

ok maybe I mixed them up but the other Joyce kid that played with king james this summer.

[hs sports fan]

ok maybe I mixed them up but the other Joyce kid that played with king james this summer.

I didn't realizw there is another one. He hasn't been mentioned as one of about 20 possible players by SVSM posters on here. Are you sure it's other Joyce?

[hs sports fan]

There are a couple names on here that are very legit.. For example, Carl Jones and Juan Staten.. Other guys listed have much talent but shouldn't be considered a top PG quite yet.. There's one PG out there who probably is the BEST in the state that is not listed.. Derek Jackson of Cleveland Benedictine.. He's defintely the Top 3 PG's in the state of Ohio and it doesn't matter what grade level....

I'm pretty sure the last sentence of post #2 mentions him.

[thehasbeen95]

I'm pretty sure the last sentence of post #2 mentions him.

very cute sports fan.:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :)

[hs sports fan]

very cute sports fan.:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :)

I haven't seen very many of these guys play, so I don't have an opinion. Out of the guys I have seen and consider a PG, I would have to agree with you.

[thehasbeen95]

I didn't realizw there is another one. He hasn't been mentioned as one of about 20 possible players by SVSM posters on here. Are you sure it's other Joyce?

you know I don't remember the young man's name but he played on the 17u team this summer for King James. I must be confused. sorry.

[ballin101]

No it was Cameron Joyce he played with King James this summer after a year at Patterson Prep...he did in fact graduate in 07 but he is now a walk-on at Kent St I believe.

[lancersroll]

In Cincy its hands down Jordan Crawford, he is the only D1 prospect in Cincy.

He is awful small at 5'5 but is getting low D1 looks.

Its not that hes great but he is the best Cincy has and its not close.

There is no one at Princeton, Moeller, Elder, X, Withrow, Aiken, Oak Hills. No one close.

[GCLSOUTH]

I have to agree there Lancer, I have seen the whole city of Cincy and Crawford is the best by far down here. I heard Cronin say at an AAU tourney this summer that if he was still at Murray st he would be all over him.

[Eagle Eyes]

In Cincy its hands down Jordan Crawford, he is the only D1 prospect in Cincy.

He is awful small at 5'5 but is getting low D1 looks.

Its not that hes great but he is the best Cincy has and its not close.

There is no one at Princeton, Moeller, Elder, X, Withrow, Aiken, Oak Hills. No one close.

Crawford may be tops in Cincy but in all of southern Ohio (can't speak of north of Columbus) my money is on "Q".......Quentin Rollins out of Wilmington. I've seen alot of bball and alot of players (high school and AAU) and he simply is the smoothest, smartest player around. Make a point to catch one of his games this winter !

[Coach Vic]

I would add Trey Burke of Columbus Northland, Traevon Jackson of Westerville South and Stevie Taylor of Gahanna Lincoln High to the list.

[yellowandblue]

I would add Trey Burke of Columbus Northland, Traevon Jackson of Westerville South and Stevie Taylor of Gahanna Lincoln High to the list.

Trey Burke maybe,Traevons a fine player but I see him as 2 man maybe even a 3.

[gonefishing]

just wondering, what is our definition of a true pg....looking at lot of these names some of these guys are sg. i think a pg gets everybody involed, and can control a game. just me

[thehasbeen95]

just wondering, what is our definition of a true pg....looking at lot of these names some of these guys are sg. i think a pg gets everybody involed, and can control a game. just me

Good question fish. IMO a point guard is a player that can facilitate an offense control the ball and set the tone for the team. Not only should a point guard be a good shooter but also a better defender as well. A point guard should be able to exploit a defense with penetration adn perimeter shooting which in turn opens things up for his/her teammates. Most importantly a point guard protects the ball by not turning it over. just my OPINION guys.

[thehasbeen95]

My pick for best pg in the state of Ohio hands down would have to be Junior Derek Jackson of Cleveland's Benedictine. I have not seen a pg mature phisically and mentally as much as this young man. a legit 6'0-6'1 strong muscular frame helps him to absorb contact and get the continuation.He has an extremely high basketball IQ and is not turnover prone. He's the type of player that can adapt to any defensive set in front of him. Can take anyone off the dribble and penetrate or can pull up for a patented jumper. Very dangerous from the three point line and very explosive with his movements especially when he dunks(a la Johnie Davis formerly of Timken)lol. exceptionally strong rebounder which you don't get too much from a pg. and he's not afraid of defensive assignments. It would not surprise me if he was one of the top players in assists and steals in the state. Regardless of class Mr. Jackson definately is at the top of the food chain as a point guard and as one of the elite players in the state. I am really going to enjoy the next to season's as he leads his team by example and proves why he is the best pg in the state. remember this is my opinion so don't have a cow because of it. SMILE!!!

[MCGal]

IMHO, for a true pg listing, the scoring stats should not be listed high or first. Leadership and passing skills/finding teammates and setting them up in the best possible spot for them to score would come first.

[thehasbeen95]

IMHO, for a true pg listing, the scoring stats should not be listed high or first. Leadership and passing skills/finding teammates and setting them up in the best possible spot for them to score would come first.

I agree as well. but it helps if he/she can flat out go go go!!

[voice_of_reason]

I think in this discussion, are we talking about best HS point guard or guard with college potential. Above you discussed Crawford, I agree that he is good. I wonder if those above have some GCL bias, including Cronin. But if I am a college coach, do I instead recruit a guys like Alan Roberts or Orlando Williams who is more of the combo guards.

I think there have been many "true" PGs that do not have the numbers and get overlooked.

[Cover-3]

My pick for best pg in the state of Ohio hands down would have to be Junior Derek Jackson of Cleveland's Benedictine. I have not seen a pg mature phisically and mentally as much as this young man. a legit 6'0-6'1 strong muscular frame helps him to absorb contact and get the continuation.He has an extremely high basketball IQ and is not turnover prone. He's the type of player that can adapt to any defensive set in front of him. Can take anyone off the dribble and penetrate or can pull up for a patented jumper. Very dangerous from the three point line and very explosive with his movements especially when he dunks(a la Johnie Davis formerly of Timken)lol. exceptionally strong rebounder which you don't get too much from a pg. and he's not afraid of defensive assignments. It would not surprise me if he was one of the top players in assists and steals in the state. Regardless of class Mr. Jackson definately is at the top of the food chain as a point guard and as one of the elite players in the state. I am really going to enjoy the next to season's as he leads his team by example and proves why he is the best pg in the state. remember this is my opinion so don't have a cow because of it. SMILE!!!

Over the last couple of seasons, it looked like Derek was more of a combo guard than a true point guard. Even late last season, Dismuke seemed to be the primary ball-handler and distributer.

It's great to hear that Derek has been working on his game. He's always been a good defender, athlete, and scorer. He hadn't been a true lead guard through his first two seasons. He always showed flashes of potential there, I guess he has now developed that aspect of his game.

[morecowbell]

I think in this discussion, are we talking about best HS point guard or guard with college potential. Above you discussed Crawford, I agree that he is good. I wonder if those above have some GCL bias, including Cronin. But if I am a college coach, do I instead recruit a guys like Alan Roberts or Orlando Williams who is more of the combo guards.

I think there have been many "true" PGs that do not have the numbers and get overlooked.


I have to agree with you on that one. there are a few pg's that get overlooked and they do exactly what a pg is supposed to do. but they don't get the credit for it.

[hs sports fan]

My pick for best pg in the state of Ohio hands down would have to be Junior Derek Jackson of Cleveland's Benedictine. I have not seen a pg mature phisically and mentally as much as this young man. a legit 6'0-6'1 strong muscular frame helps him to absorb contact and get the continuation.He has an extremely high basketball IQ and is not turnover prone. He's the type of player that can adapt to any defensive set in front of him. Can take anyone off the dribble and penetrate or can pull up for a patented jumper. Very dangerous from the three point line and very explosive with his movements especially when he dunks(a la Johnie Davis formerly of Timken)lol. exceptionally strong rebounder which you don't get too much from a pg. and he's not afraid of defensive assignments. It would not surprise me if he was one of the top players in assists and steals in the state. Regardless of class Mr. Jackson definately is at the top of the food chain as a point guard and as one of the elite players in the state. I am really going to enjoy the next to season's as he leads his team by example and proves why he is the best pg in the state. remember this is my opinion so don't have a cow because of it. SMILE!!!

You really think he is the best hands down? He really improved from the end of his freshman year to the end of his sophomore year, and I'm sure has improved even more over the past 6 months. The only thing I have not witnessed that you mentioned is his strong rebounding. Other than this, I agree with your assessment of him.

[morecowbell]

You really think he is the best hands down? He really improved from the end of his freshman year to the end of his sophomore year, and I'm sure has improved even more over the past 6 months. The only thing I have not witnessed that you mentioned is his strong rebounding. Other than this, I agree with your assessment of him.

i think he is

[swobballfan]

jordan crawford is in no way a division 1 player....cant even finish against moeller or elder...

[Past My Prime]

In Cincy its hands down Jordan Crawford, he is the only D1 prospect in Cincy.

He is awful small at 5'5 but is getting low D1 looks.

Its not that hes great but he is the best Cincy has and its not close.

There is no one at Princeton, Moeller, Elder, X, Withrow, Aiken, Oak Hills. No one close.

haha sorry but not at all. Roberts from middletown is much better, howell from lockland is much better, rollins from wilmington is much better, welleman from taylor is a little better than him, cobb from wherever the ---- he is now is much better. Williams is considered a pg to some and he is much better than Crawford. He might be the best in the gcl tho and he is not going to play d1 because of his size... he has d1 talent POSSIBLY

[thehasbeen95]

You really think he is the best hands down? He really improved from the end of his freshman year to the end of his sophomore year, and I'm sure has improved even more over the past 6 months. The only thing I have not witnessed that you mentioned is his strong rebounding. Other than this, I agree with your assessment of him.

trust me when I tell you sports fan his rebounding skill is rediculous especially on the offensive end. you will most definately see what I mean very soon. You and I may not see eye to eye on some topics but we respect each others opinions. so whenever you post on this site your usually dead on with your info. you'll see what I'm talkin about with Derek and I know for a fact you have an eye for pure talent and most assuredly you will see the strides this young man has taken to being the very best at what he loves to do.

[voice_of_reason]

haha sorry but not at all. Roberts from middletown is much better, howell from lockland is much better, rollins from wilmington is much better, welleman from taylor is a little better than him, cobb from wherever the ---- he is now is much better. Williams is considered a pg to some and he is much better than Crawford. He might be the best in the gcl tho and he is not going to play d1 because of his size... he has d1 talent POSSIBLY


If he is the best PG in the GCL, does that mean it is a down year for the conference?

[Eezy as 123]

Where would you all put Lockland's (ex-Aiken) 6'1" PG, Cortez Howell at?

I don't know much about him. I heard he commited to Bowling Green, though.

Would he be top 10 in the state? Top 5 in Cincy? Pros and cons about him?

[hs sports fan]

trust me when I tell you sports fan his rebounding skill is rediculous especially on the offensive end. you will most definately see what I mean very soon. You and I may not see eye to eye on some topics but we respect each others opinions. so whenever you post on this site your usually dead on with your info. you'll see what I'm talkin about with Derek and I know for a fact you have an eye for pure talent and most assuredly you will see the strides this young man has taken to being the very best at what he loves to do.

I'll take your word for it. Is this an area he has improved upon, or have I just not seen it since I've only seen him play a few times?

[thehasbeen95]

I'll take your word for it. Is this an area he has improved upon, or have I just not seen it since I've only seen him play a few times?

its an area he has improved upon. his jumping ability is astonishing as well. I've seen him catch numerous alley oops and demonstrate explosive windmill dunks like it was second nature for him to do it. all this transpired in the last 6 months as you stated. ever since he hit those six strait three's against Akron North and got his first dunk in that game everything has been uphill for him. His confidence, his shot has improved....every aspect of his game has been taken to another level. I really can't explain it.

[The Commander]

Cortez Howell is a good smart Pg..He isn't really a big scorer but he has a Big East Conferance pg body...He really has good court vision...good pick up for Bowling Green..!

[Cover-3]

its an area he has improved upon. his jumping ability is astonishing as well. I've seen him catch numerous alley oops and demonstrate explosive windmill dunks like it was second nature for him to do it. all this transpired in the last 6 months as you stated. ever since he hit those six strait three's against Akron North and got his first dunk in that game everything has been uphill for him. His confidence, his shot has improved....every aspect of his game has been taken to another level. I really can't explain it.

Kudos to Derek for all of the hard work he's put in this off-season. BHS will need him because Dismuke may opt to focus on football and not play hoops this year.

PG will be key because BHS has plenty of scoring and they'll need someone to distribute the ball. Derek's scoring and rebounding will help, but he needs to control the game, feed his scorers, and protect the ball.

He must have really worked on his explosiveness; I've never seen him dunk. He always had good leaping ability, but it's tough to dunk when you're 5'10". I look forward to seeing him lead his team this winter.

[chosen one]

Brandon Howard in Cincinnati

[morecowbell]

Kudos to Derek for all of the hard work he's put in this off-season. BHS will need him because Dismuke may opt to focus on football and not play hoops this year.

PG will be key because BHS has plenty of scoring and they'll need someone to distribute the ball. Derek's scoring and rebounding will help, but he needs to control the game, feed his scorers, and protect the ball.

He must have really worked on his explosiveness; I've never seen him dunk. He always had good leaping ability, but it's tough to dunk when you're 5'10". I look forward to seeing him lead his team this winter.

Oh no he really is 6'0. closer to 6'1 though. he's grown two inches from 6 months ago. I think he finally realized how good he is and how good he can be as long as he stays focused. but your right pg position is crucial for BHS but I believe Derek Jackson is up for the challenge.

[futureknight25]

Why is everyone forgetting about Sheldon from Harding? He has to be in this discussion IMO.

[LW Fan]

Obi Nwanko from Lakota West is a pretty good point guard.

[basketball junkie12]

My pick for best pg in the state of Ohio hands down would have to be Junior Derek Jackson of Cleveland's Benedictine. I have not seen a pg mature phisically and mentally as much as this young man. a legit 6'0-6'1 strong muscular frame helps him to absorb contact and get the continuation.He has an extremely high basketball IQ and is not turnover prone. He's the type of player that can adapt to any defensive set in front of him. Can take anyone off the dribble and penetrate or can pull up for a patented jumper. Very dangerous from the three point line and very explosive with his movements especially when he dunks(a la Johnie Davis formerly of Timken)lol. exceptionally strong rebounder which you don't get too much from a pg. and he's not afraid of defensive assignments. It would not surprise me if he was one of the top players in assists and steals in the state. Regardless of class Mr. Jackson definately is at the top of the food chain as a point guard and as one of the elite players in the state. I am really going to enjoy the next to season's as he leads his team by example and proves why he is the best pg in the state. remember this is my opinion so don't have a cow because of it. SMILE!!!


derek is a soild player but hes not even one of the top 3 point guards in his class let alone best in the state. juwan staten and aaron craft are better pg's than derek. derek doesnt even run point for king james i would give storm the nod over him as a point guard

[warren west]

future sheldon brogdon from harding is more of a shooting guard.

[thehasbeen95]

derek is a soild player but hes not even one of the top 3 point guards in his class let alone best in the state. juwan staten and aaron craft are better pg's than derek. derek doesnt even run point for king james i would give storm the nod over him as a point guard

well lets say this.... we will see by the end of the season who's talkin about who.

[futureknight25]

future sheldon brogdon from harding is more of a shooting guard.

He is labeled as a pg on every recruiting database

[warren west]

he is about third on bringing the ball up on hardings team.desmar jackson and junior fred williams bring it up the most.

[ballin101]

He is labeled as a pg on every recruiting database

Yeah the recruiting sites usually project their position in college not their position now. So at his height I'd think he'd have to play point at the
division I level he's probably 5'11. It doesn't really matter warren who brings it up in high school games either

[HoopHound]

...It doesn't really matter warren who brings it up in high school games either

It doesn't??? :confused:

Maybe not in AAU... but against presses and traps, I want my player with the best handles and court-sight to bring up the ball.

[kent16]

Yeah the recruiting sites usually project their position in college not their position now. So at his height I'd think he'd have to play point at the
division I level he's probably 5'11. It doesn't really matter warren who brings it up in high school games either

I think they want Desmar bringing the rock up :wallbang:

[ballin101]

But if you have multiple guys can can handle the ball and dribble as in Warren Harding case then usually whoever gets it just goes. Whether it be Desmar or Sheldon I'm sure they're both capable of bringing the ball up.

[warren west]

in college sheldon will be a microwave. when he gets hot he can light it up. he also is a good dunker for his size.

[RDriesen]

Is this the, name every point guard that plays in Ohio, thread?

I thought it was about the TOP point guards in Ohio.

[freakdeak99]

Antwon Tolliver from Shroder Padeia is not the best, but definetely in the running best point guards in Cincy. He's a strong, defense crazed guard that passes as well as he scores. Excellent leader as well. (Hence part of Shroder's playoff stint last season.)

[HoopHound]

Is this the, name every point guard that plays in Ohio, thread?

I thought it was about the TOP point guards in Ohio.

Threads like this are REALLY tough, RD.

When you consider how many "good" point guards there are across-the-state... it's mind-boggling. I'm pretty much a hoops junkie for this state, and quite honestly, I've never heard of many of these players. :confused:

If folks were really honest, this could be a good thread to learn about some kids... but unfortunately, there's lots of player self-promotion as well as some fans that bring up ONLY their favorite team's players... or their sons. :wallbang:

We'd probably be better served if we had three or four seperate "regional" threads about "best pg's". :shrug:

[fromhs2thepros]

for PG is Ohio. I think there is depth at PG but not Big Ten type PG out there? Dont mind be corrected on that but how many are going big time? otherwise, a solid year and nothing to complain about any scholarship level player.

[the white shadow]

from youngstown/ mahoning area
kyle randal- ursuline
Sheldon Brogdon-warren
Kevin blinsky- columbiana

may not be the best in state but are good players in the area

[kent16]

from youngstown/ mahoning area
kyle randal- ursuline
Sheldon Brogdon-warren
Kevin blinsky- columbiana

may not be the best in state but are good players in the area

Sheldon was probally one of the biggest reasons they were so good last year. He can light up the scoring sheet in a second, if he was a little taller he would be a major d-1 recruit i think. Does anyone know the truth to the rumor that a 7-footer moved from Alabama and will be playing on the basketball team this upcoming season?:eek:

[HoopHound]

from youngstown/ mahoning area
kyle randal- ursuline
Sheldon Brogdon-warren
Kevin blinsky- columbiana

may not be the best in state but are good players in the area

Also from our Mahoning Valley area... I also really like Josh Selway from Leetonia. I feel like he's every bit as good as Blinsky. Doesn't score like Blinsky, but does everything else better IMHO.

And another small-school player VERY entertaining to watch is Allan Jurica (sp?) from Sebring. Jurica isn't a scorer but has great handles and can distribute the ball with the best of them!! And you oughtta see him play defense!!! :crush: :crush:

Again... my two mentions are NOT state-wide, but both need mentioning in THIS area. :cool:

[morecowbell]

derek is a soild player but hes not even one of the top 3 point guards in his class let alone best in the state. juwan staten and aaron craft are better pg's than derek. derek doesnt even run point for king james i would give storm the nod over him as a point guard

I believe that Juwan Staten, Aaron Craft, and Storm Sanders are all tremendously talented PG's and deserve everything they work hard for but I also think Derek Jackson is the best PG for these simple reasons. I believe Derek can perform the duties of a traditional point guard, but also brings that extra dimension with his scoring and versatility. as prolific a scorer he may be he is even more valuable as a defender. His ability to push the tempo, get inside the lane, shoot from the perimeter and distribute the ball will be very valuable for the next two years at Benedictine.

[NorrisHopper30]

Juwan Staten

[Coach Vic]

It is Juwan Staten of Dayton-Thurgood Marshall. He facilitates an offense and when needed can score at any time. He is the consumate pg. Regardless of class he is the best in Ohio. He is smart, fast, tough and plays much bigger than he is. Top pg in Ohio for sure.

[HoopHound]

I believe that Juwan Staten, Aaron Craft, and Storm Sanders are all tremendously talented PG's and deserve everything they work hard for but I also think Derek Jackson is the best PG for these simple reasons. I believe Derek can perform the duties of a traditional point guard, but also brings that extra dimension with his scoring and versatility. as prolific a scorer he may be he is even more valuable as a defender. His ability to push the tempo, get inside the lane, shoot from the perimeter and distribute the ball will be very valuable for the next two years at Benedictine.

Juwan Staten

It is Juwan Staten. He facilitates an offense and when needed can score at any time. He is the consumate pg. Regardless of class he is the best in Ohio. He is smart, fast, tough and plays much bigger than he is. Top pg in Ohio for sure.

Is there some rule in Yappi that I'm unaware of?

Is it against a certain rule to add a few keystrokes and identify the schools these kids are from?

I try to follow these kids from across the state all season. HUNDREDS of players and DOZENS of teams. NOW is when I'm trying to know them better.

Give an ol' hounddog a break, will you guys??? :angel:

P.S.--- I know where Sanders and Jackson are at... just drawing a blank on Staten & Craft. Heard of 'em... just can't place the school. :blush:

[Coach Vic]

Is there some rule in Yappi that I'm unaware of?

Is it against a certain rule to add a few keystrokes and identify the schools these kids are from?

I try to follow these kids from across the state all season. HUNDREDS of players and DOZENS of teams. NOW is when I'm trying to know them better.

Give an ol' hounddog a break, will you guys??? :angel:

P.S.--- I know where Sanders and Jackson are at... just drawing a blank on Staten & Craft. Heard of 'em... just can't place the school. :blush:


Staten is at Dayton - Thurgood Marshall a D2 school. Craft is at Liberty Benton.

[HoopHound]

Staten is at Dayton - Thurgood Marshall a D2 school. Craft is at Liberty Benton.

Thanks, Coach!! :)

[melfellowsfan]

nate tait from brush has to be the best pg in ohio watch him if u ever get a chance to he has terrific court vision and can get to the rim and slam at will

[basketball junkie12]

I believe that Juwan Staten, Aaron Craft, and Storm Sanders are all tremendously talented PG's and deserve everything they work hard for but I also think Derek Jackson is the best PG for these simple reasons. I believe Derek can perform the duties of a traditional point guard, but also brings that extra dimension with his scoring and versatility. as prolific a scorer he may be he is even more valuable as a defender. His ability to push the tempo, get inside the lane, shoot from the perimeter and distribute the ball will be very valuable for the next two years at Benedictine.


again derek is a soild player most likely a mac player but hes not even the best pg in his class. he's not that fast and doesnt pass all that great. hes a good shooter but struggles against quicker players to get his shots off. these are the things i noticed when i watched them play all ohio in columbus and he maybe had 6-9 pts.

[thehasbeen95]

again derek is a soild player most likely a mac player but hes not even the best pg in his class. he's not that fast and doesnt pass all that great. hes a good shooter but struggles against quicker players to get his shots off. these are the things i noticed when i watched them play all ohio in columbus and he maybe had 6-9 pts.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: ....................OK

[thehasbeen95]

again derek is a soild player most likely a mac player but hes not even the best pg in his class. .

Oh yeah please don't knock the MAC Conference like whoever plays in it has leprosy. its a great conference and a lot of REAL ballers play in it.

[aauplayer]

When trying to determine who the best at a position is you need to establish your definition of a point guard. My preference for a point guard is someone that can play defense and stop penetration. Someone who leads the offenses, handle and distribute the rock without thinking shot first. Their secondary job is to be able to score but not fire the ball every time down the floor. They first priority to keep their teammates involved in the game.

Based on the above criteria I would select Aaron Craft plus he is a little bigger point guard which I like.

[basketball junkie12]

Oh yeah please don't knock the MAC Conference like whoever plays in it has leprosy. its a great conference and a lot of REAL ballers play in it.

wasnt knocking the conference at all

[thehasbeen95]

When trying to determine who the best at a position is you need to establish your definition of a point guard. My preference for a point guard is someone that can play defense and stop penetration. Someone who leads the offenses, handle and distribute the rock without thinking shot first. Their secondary job is to be able to score but not fire the ball every time down the floor. They first priority to keep their teammates involved in the game.

Based on the above criteria I would select Aaron Craft plus he is a little bigger point guard which I like.

thank you for giving legitimate reasons why Mr.Craft is your choice and not just throwing a name out there. I respect your thoughts greatly.

[Ballgame75]

Can anyone confirm that Staten is actually at TM right now? Supposedly his dad is out as coach and he will be at a new school very soon.

[Coach Vic]

Can anyone confirm that Staten is actually at TM right now? Supposedly his dad is out as coach and he will be at a new school very soon.


Consider it confirmed. Juwan is at Thurgood Marshall.

[Ballgame75]

Sounds good. From what I have been told the paperwork is going through the motions....Who knows.

[Coach Vic]

He is not leaving Thurgood Marshall. Greg Gainey transferred from Trotwood Madison to Thurgood Marshall.

[1180ChesterRoad]

The best PGs are Juwan Staten and Carl Jones IMO.

[theAdjuster17]

carl jones is sick nasty didn't miss a shot when i saw him play

[futureknight25]

If I had to pick out of all the point guards Ive seen I would have to go with Carl Jones. He has perfected the pullup mid-range jumper. He is lightning fast as well.

[futureknight25]

Also Im not sure if CJ McCollum is considered a PG or not but I think that is what he will play at Lehigh. If so I think he has to be top 5 PGs in the state. He is 6'2 now to go along with one of the best jumpers in the state.

[thehasbeen95]

Also Im not sure if CJ McCollum is considered a PG or not but I think that is what he will play at Lehigh. If so I think he has to be top 5 PGs in the state. He is 6'2 now to go along with one of the best jumpers in the state.

DITTO!!!!!!!Unbelievable jumper and range.

[SHOOTERS TOUCH]

Nate Brusman

[Worm02]

Warren Harding's Desmar Jackson has to be in the conversation. He has shown the ability to completely take over games when he has to. Being 6'5 allows him to be even more versatile in high school as he can play any of the wing positions, but his size should make him a nice point guard at the next level. Being tall at that position isn't exactly a requirement, but combined with Desmars skills it's very fun to watch.

FWIW, Sheldon "The Microwave" Brogdon is just a ball player. At 6'1, he'll be a point guard will make him a point guard in college, but as his nickname suggests (his teammates & coaches gave it to him), he can heat up in a hurry! He can jump through the roof, and he has shown the ability to dunk on much bigger defenders. He's so much fun to watch.

[The Commander]

Does Desmar Jackson or Sheldon Brogdon have any D1 or D2 offers if so could anybody please name them??

[BPR]

Somebody has to mention Barry Cobb! He has always been under the radar, but the kid can play. If he had more stability, he would be considered among the best PGs in the state.

[Balla13]

Zach Brown

[atruegriff]

Jazel Garrett from Akron Buchtel.

[hs sports fan]

Jazel Garrett from Akron Buchtel.

Will he even start for the Griff? Is Dent not playing thsi year? What about Chevin Meadows and Antonio Lovelace?

[Yellow_Jacket06]

I'll have to agree with a few on here and go with Juwan Staten.

From the consensus here it looks like the majority believe it's between him and Carl Jones.

[climbingwalls24]

Zach Brown

i second that.

[nerk#1]

Don't forget Cody Dennison from D.1 state champs , Newark...He's not one that gets fancy with the ball or wont come close to dunking on you , but he handles the ball well and can run the offense and can score when needed and plays a good defense.

[thehasbeen95]

Don't forget Cody Dennison from D.1 state champs , Newark...He's not one that gets fancy with the ball or wont come close to dunking on you , but he handles the ball well and can run the offense and can score when needed and plays a good defense.

Cody is a very nice player.

[Past My Prime]

Somebody has to mention Barry Cobb! He has always been under the radar, but the kid can play. If he had more stability, he would be considered among the best PGs in the state.

Agreed. He is a top 3-4 pg in his grade in ohio and arguably has the most talent in 2010. His basketball iq is what holds him back. With proper coaching he could be scary

[futureknight25]

Nate Brusman

ST, What school does this kid go to?

[futureknight25]

Zach Brown

Balla, What school does Brown attend?

[futureknight25]

again derek is a soild player most likely a mac player but hes not even the best pg in his class. he's not that fast and doesnt pass all that great. hes a good shooter but struggles against quicker players to get his shots off. these are the things i noticed when i watched them play all ohio in columbus and he maybe had 6-9 pts.

Derek Jackson played real well every time Ive seen him. You have to mention that All-Ohio Red went 68-1 throughout the summer and that is true not an exaggeration. When I watched Benedictine I was more impressed with Jackson than I was with Wright. IMO the Buckeyes pulled the trigger too soon on Wright.

[Past My Prime]

ST, What school does this kid go to?

Cincinnati christian

[eastisbest]

Toledo area
Tim Hausfield: Sylvania Southview

Some other good ones coming up and some that might be moving more towards "shooting guard, but of the seniors I'd pick Hausfield.

[aauman]

What about Aaron Craft. Apparently Tennessee thought he was the best point guard in the state; a lot bigger program than Dayton (Staten). He is a tremendous defender and Staten, Jones, and Jackson are weak on defense.

[eastisbest]

Oops

Re: Craft.

That was an oversight. Well, not really "Toledo" area so, I'm safe from guilt.

[Past My Prime]

What about Aaron Craft. Apparently Tennessee thought he was the best point guard in the state; a lot bigger program than Dayton (Staten). He is a tremendous defender and Staten, Jones, and Jackson are weak on defense.

just because staten chose dayton does not mean he did not get offers from bigger schools... staten is not nearly the defender craft is, but craft is not nearly the scorer and creater that staten is... most people have staten rated as the bets pg in the state in 2010 and a higher rated player in all scouting services... both players are very good

[Coach Vic]

I love Aaron Crafts game. He is a great kid. Be that in mind I don't think anyone should say that because he is going to Tennessee and Staten is going to Dayton that it means one is better than the other. The truth is that Staten verballed early. He did it prior to the start of this past AAU season. Had he waited he could have gone to a much much bigger school. Bigger does not mean a better situation for each player. I watched both players play big roles in the success of their AAU team and believe me BOTH are big time talents. Staten chose Dayton because he wanted to, NOT because he couldn't get anything bigger.

[thehasbeen95]

I love Aaron Crafts game. He is a great kid. Be that in mind I don't think anyone should say that because he is going to Tennessee and Staten is going to Dayton that it means one is better than the other. The truth is that Staten verballed early. He did it prior to the start of this past AAU season. Had he waited he could have gone to a much much bigger school. Bigger does not mean a better situation for each player. I watched both players play big roles in the success of their AAU team and believe me BOTH are big time talents. Staten chose Dayton because he wanted to, NOT because he couldn't get anything bigger.


hey coach I think we all figured it out that the AAUMAN is just some kid thats seems a bit disgruntled at the success of Mr. Staten and Mr.Jackson.why I don't know but still I can't use a forum to berate another players ability or character for that matter. but I can point out some things in a players game that need to be develop. I'm proud of Aaron Craft, Staten and Jackson and I hope they ALL have great seasons.

[futureknight25]

Staten also had a offer from Xavier as well.

[Bigmoe22]

tony harris- Moeller. Quick and can shoot

[climbingwalls24]

Balla, What school does Brown attend?

mason

[FormerWildcat]

I thought Desmar Jackson was awesome when I saw him at the Play by Play event. However, I wasn't aware he was considered a PG. While he did bring the ball up for Warren Harding, he still strikes me as a SG.

I still think Stevie Taylor from Gahanna deserves some more pub, though. He's lighting it up at some pretty nice events around the country.

[coachd]

Sheldon Brogdon and Desmar Jackson, they both can play the point and there is no one better than them in NE Ohio.

[UncFan5055]

Jackson from Harding is the real deal . Craft can play point guard one a team that does not need him to score , because of his ability to control a game with his head . The best point guard in the state how ever is Staten, speed kills and the kid has it !

[eastisbest]

Tim Hausefield: having now seen Staton and Kraus, I'm moving Sylvania Southfield's Hausfield up the ladder from best local to one of the best in-state. For football fans, he was the field goal/40 yd extra point kicker. Solid mentally, does not rattle and gets better when wolfed at. Solid three point but not off the jump. The shot can be a bit flat (last year). Excellent vision, fluid with the ball and good speed. He has no problem keeping point for a team with a couple state level sprinters. 5'6" but has scored well in the paint and under the basket against some of our more athletic Toledo City League teams.

Headed to Liberty I think but I'm not sure for what sport. If he's going for basketball, then there's some local college DI teams missing out. The basketball version of Nate Kmic about to happen.

Juwan Staton: saw him for the first time yesterday, so mind you this is a one time observation. As a pure PG (ball handling, vision, distribution) I'd have to say usually the best in our league would be just as good or better on a year to year basis. What really separated this kid was that dynamite jump shot. A 24 in (I'd guess) one-step from 5' beyond the arc dropping from the sky. How do you stop that?

Defense: our PG, a senior up from JVs was able to bring the ball up one-on-one against Staton without any turnovers in the long court. He had some problems in the half court but that was more him being new to the level of competition of Marshall as a whole I'd say and not any one particular thing done by Staton. Not sure if Staton has better D to bring but generally, yesterday he didn't pressure the ball all that much.

Juwan Staton sure was fun to watch. I had the feeling that at any time he could have just taken over the game but he stayed in team. Dayton got themselves a steal.

Luke Kraus:saw him last year. He struggled with our speed and quickness but then, he didn't have a whole lot of help so he played mostly an SG role. His team has more experience this year so I'm looking forward to that match.

[Jhubbs77]

:laugh: :laugh: Nothing beats a good ole Yappi high school thread about best players

[Hoopz84]

tony harris- Moeller. Quick and can shoot

The title of the thread is, "Who is the top PG in the State of Ohio", not who is the best point guard at Moeller.

[thePITman]

I have been to lots of Northeast Ohio basketball games this year, in all divisions... Here are my picks:

1. Storm Sanders from GlenOak is the best I've seen this year, especially defensively! Talk about a lockdown defender, his on-the-ball pressure and quickness is some of the best I've ever seen, not just this year. Also what may go unmentioned is his vision of the court and great passing ability and a decent 3-ball. I'd base my team around him any day!

2. Tucci from Malvern is an amazing PG and coach's kid. He has great court vision and can squeeze passes into the smallest spaces. He also has nearly unlimited range from the field and an intensity that I like to see from a team leader. He also had the mid-range jumper and is great at finishing close to the bucket and drawing contact, and he runs the fast break beautifully. He scored his 1,000th point last year while their team had 2 other 1,000-point scorers, too. I would also take him to base my team around, but not near the defense that Storm Sanders brings the table.

I have not seen every team in Ohio, so I'm sure there are some very nice PG's all around the state. It's hard for me to comprehend the following, though:

1. Anyone with the defensive quickness and overpowering pressure that Sanders brings... simply amazing.
2. Anyone with the intangibles, intensity, range, and finishing ability of Tucci.

Others I've seen:
Turson, from Plymouth
Bates, from Smithville
Craft, from Liberty Benton
McCollum, from GlenOak
[forget name], from SVSM

Aaron Craft

I've seen him play this year, and I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would have been. However, it was early and soon after the football season had ended. It also was his 8-25 FT effort that single-handedly lost the game for them. However, he showed signs of greatness, especially defensively and on the fast break. But even at what I think would be his top-level of play, I don't think it would compare with Storm Sanders, IMO... but I agree that when he gets into the basketball groove, he'd be very good.

[gonefishing]

The title of the thread is, "Who is the top PG in the State of Ohio", not who is the best point guard at Moeller.

:laugh: too funny...tony is a solid pg i would put him top 5 in the city, you cant stay in front of him

[melfellowsfan]

nate tait

[CaneFan]

I have to give a vote here to Wilmingtons Quinten Rollins. I've seen him play nearly 40 games including against Staten (who is very good) and at no time was he not the best player on the floor.

[highhoops]

Kevin Sullivan from Upper Arlington flying under the radar. Missed most of his junior year to an injury and off to a a great senior year averaging 18ppg,
5apg, and 7rpg.

[freakdeak99]

Antwon Tolliver from Shroder is a helluva point guard. Plays for a DIII high school, but can compete at any division.

[kent16]

Jackson, Brogdon, and Willliams might be the best backcourt in the State

[chosen one]

Brandon Howard had fourteen points, ten assists, six rebounds, and two steals in Walnuts game against Maderia Tuesday. He has been putting up
similar numbers all season.