The GWOC...

[TheTroyTrojan]

Does anyone know what the GWOC is returning this year...as far as each division goes (North, Central, and South)???

[troyboy73]

A long season for Troy. I saw them lose to Troy Christian at Wittenberg in July.

Centerville and Wayne will rule. Springboro should be solid also.

[myspace1412]

doesnt trotwood have a lot coming back especially with the alleged transfers

[Yellow_Jacket06]

CENTRAL:

Centerville - Matt Kavanaugh, Adam Replogle, Greg White, Craig Ashworth, Mike Griffin, & Pat Crawford

Wayne - Lamar Mallory, Travis Trice, Braxton Miller

Springfield - Zack Burks, Lucas Smith, Trey DePriest, Akeem Freeman

Fairmont - Mark Shadowens, Cody Tangeman, Kevin Sharick, Logan Rucker, Bamberger(Forget first name)

Beavercreek - Alex Arthur, Tyler Pollock, Brad Sundstrom

Northmont - Steve Newell


NORTH:

Trotwood - Greg Gainey, Aaron Robinson, Chris Pearson, Nate Holloway, Tony Graham, Darnell Tubbs

Sidney - Josh Topp, Lamar Taborn, Jonathan Lowe, Jack Foy, Zach Yinger, Zach Michael

Piqua - Dan Wilson

Troy - D.J. Martinez


Butler - ??????


SOUTH:

Springboro - Austin McMahan, Bryce Drew, Justin Garrett

Lebanon - Bryce Hathaway, Justin Logsdon

Fairborn - Jordan Houser, Kyle Windmiller

Xenia - David Dudgeon


Miamisburg - ??????

[HoopHound]

Glad to see this thread started. :thumb:

I'll check and see if I received any of these schools' rosters during and after last season. If I did, I'll post them later with heights as well as updated grade levels.

If you all listen... I think we can hear basketballs bouncing, and sneakers squeaking. It VERY faint right now... but I can hear 'em. :)

[myspace1412]

CENTRAL:

Centerville - Matt Kavanaugh, Adam Replogle, Greg White, Craig Ashworth, Mike Griffin, & Pat Crawford

Wayne - Lamar Mallory, Travis Trice, Braxton Miller

Springfield - Zack Burks, Lucas Smith, Trey DePriest, Akeem Freeman

Fairmont - Mark Shadowens, Cody Tangeman, Kevin Sharick, Logan Rucker, Bamberger(Forget first name)

Beavercreek - Alex Arthur, Tyler Pollock, Brad Sundstrom

Northmont - Steve Newell


NORTH:

Trotwood - Greg Gainey, Aaron Robinson, Chris Pearson, Nate Holloway, Tony Graham, Darnell Tubbs

Sidney - Josh Topp, Lamar Taborn, Jonathan Lowe, Jack Foy, Zach Yinger, Zach Michael

Piqua - Dan Wilson

Troy - D.J. Martinez


Butler - ??????


SOUTH:

Springboro - Austin McMahan, Bryce Drew, Justin Garrett

Lebanon - Bryce Hathaway, Justin Logsdon

Fairborn - Jordan Houser, Kyle Windmiller

Xenia - David Dudgeon


Miamisburg - ??????

mentioned wayne without there best player crider

[jakethesnake11]

Gainey transfered to Jefferson

[Yellow_Jacket06]

That list was from a thread last year.

[wildcat4life93]

for springfield in central dont forget to name byron thompson

[Elks48]

I wouldn't be shocked to see sophomore Stefan Rivera-Clack start for Centerville this year.

[Clayton Buck]

Gainey transfered to Jefferson
I thought it was Thurgood Marshall he transfered to. Heard he was an AAU teammate of Staten and wanted to play HS ball with him.

[SFIND]

for springfield in central dont forget to name byron thompson

You didn't see him at Kenton Ridge last year, did you? That would be the Kenton Ridge J.V. team, too, not varsity. He didn't even dress varsity.

Until he gets a jump shot and doesn't try to dunk every time he gets the ball, he'll be playing behind DePriest and Freeman a the 4-5 spots.

And he didn't progress any of the summer, because he was busy progressing as a receiver.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[Elks48]

Centerville has out of conference games with Thurgood Marshall, Jefferson, Montrose Christian (MD) and Alter this season. Anyone know how good these teams are supposed to be? (Looks like Kevin Durant came from Montrose. http://www.montrosebasketball.com/)

[SFIND]

Thurgood Marshall- Juwan Staten (Dayton)
Dayton Jefferson- Adrian Payne (OSU?)

Enough said.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Elks. I have the upmost respect for the Centerville program and I have enjoyed talking to Coach Staley the handful of times I have.

I can't wait to watch and even better Kavanaugh either.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[myspace1412]

Centerville has out of conference games with Thurgood Marshall, Jefferson, Montrose Christian (MD) and Alter this season. Anyone know how good these teams are supposed to be? (Looks like Kevin Durant came from Montrose. http://www.montrosebasketball.com/)

if you go to the flyintothehoop website you can get a pretty good idea of montrose they have the number 1 player for the 2012 class, a guy headed to villanova and a few other big time players looks likeit will be a lot like playing findlay prep last year

[bballfan1990]

montrose beat oak hill last year. number one team in the country

[ex warrior captain]

if you think wayne will dominate youve got another thing coming...lamar mallory is an incredibly overrated player. trice is not very good at all. crider is kinda soft and braxton will be soft because of his injury.wayne lost their top five players. wayne doesnt win more than 12 games...

[G-Man]

Put your money where your mouth is. I guarantee Wayne wins more than 12 games. your sign on is ex warrior captain what a joke. you must be a true hater. Trice and Crider both have 4 D-1 scholarship offers each already as sophomores, so someone thinks they're pretty good and they probably don't care about what you think. What a joke! Ex-Warrior Captain my butt!

[G-Man]

I wouldn't be shocked to see sophomore Stefan Rivera-Clack start for Centerville this year.

Elks48 i think that rivera-clack is pretty good but crawford is a very solid PG and runs the offense well. Unless he struggles I'm not sure i see Clack take his spot.

[basketball coach]

Elks48 i think that rivera-clack is pretty good but crawford is a very solid PG and runs the offense well. Unless he struggles I'm not sure i see Clack take his spot.

Crawford will start at PG . I dont even think Clack is the best player in his class at Centerville but is the only true point in his class which is why he is on Varsity

[Elks48]

I'm not saying he will replace Crawford, he would take Andrew Kubacheski's spot, just something I heard.

[ex warrior captain]

Put your money where your mouth is. I guarantee Wayne wins more than 12 games. your sign on is ex warrior captain what a joke. you must be a true hater. Trice and Crider both have 4 D-1 scholarship offers each already as sophomores, so someone thinks they're pretty good and they probably don't care about what you think. What a joke! Ex-Warrior Captain my butt!

anyways, know what youre talking about before you speak.what dv 1 offers has trice got. are we talking about the same trice who didnt even avg 3 minutes in eighth grade. how about this for ya? lets see, if i shot 40 percent from three as a sophomore (i shot 46%) and shot 15 threes a game like trice did, i would score that much too. and appear better than i really am. trice i believe shot around 12 or 13 threes a game by the end of the year. so if he shoots 25 % which is pathetic, he score an easy 9 points. which is about what he averaged. so there is no way he got a d1 offer avg 9 points in tenth grade. you're killing me. and what high school team or college scholarship for basketball did you get? how many college or high school coaches asked you to be on their staff? prolly not as many as i got...

[ex warrior captain]

krider is beyond soft. the kid is what 6-5 and plays outside on a team with no other big players. why does he not play inside? oh cuz he is soft. i could understand him playing outside if their were other big men. but wayne has no big men. i was 6-4 and played 2 guard but had three other big men on our team. wow you really dont know your basketball...

[myspace1412]

anyways, know what youre talking about before you speak.what dv 1 offers has trice got. are we talking about the same trice who didnt even avg 3 minutes in eighth grade. how about this for ya? lets see, if i shot 40 percent from three as a sophomore (i shot 46%) and shot 15 threes a game like trice did, i would score that much too. and appear better than i really am. trice i believe shot around 12 or 13 threes a game by the end of the year. so if he shoots 25 % which is pathetic, he score an easy 9 points. which is about what he averaged. so there is no way he got a d1 offer avg 9 points in tenth grade. you're killing me. and what high school team or college scholarship for basketball did you get? how many college or high school coaches asked you to be on their staff? prolly not as many as i got...

lol trice was the only player on his 8th grade team where are you getten he played 3 minutes? and didnt him and crider play in aau nationals this past summer with the next age group up.

[ex warrior captain]

i saw him play twice in eighth grade and he got in like once. when i coached against him he didnt play at all...

[ex warrior captain]

unless he didnt play at trotwoods middle school than i will admit the mistake...

but if he played with krider and boo and isiah boddie and all those guys at the wood than no he didnt play much...

[basketball coach]

unless he didnt play at trotwoods middle school than i will admit the mistake...

but if he played with krider and boo and isiah boddie and all those guys at the wood than no he didnt play much...

Trice Jr played in Springfield in Middle School , not Trotwood

[bballfan1990]

I'm not saying he will replace Crawford, he would take Andrew Kubacheski's spot, just something I heard.

ummm yea kuba graduated

[strickly_layups]

What are you talking about??? know your facts b4 you open your mouth, Trice played at Springfield Roosevelt where he led his team to the GWOC championship only to loose to Springfield Hayward who had Braxton Miller, Akeem Freeman and Trey Depriest.. In 8th grade they got beat in the semi finals.. Little Trav is one of the top sophmores in the state like it or not, you must be a former player who sat on the bench behind him or has a relative who wanted to play, who knows, lets not forget that these are kids not pros. stop bashing PLEASE!!!!!!!

[KD22]

krider is beyond soft. the kid is what 6-5 and plays outside on a team with no other big players. why does he not play inside? oh cuz he is soft. i could understand him playing outside if their were other big men. but wayne has no big men. i was 6-4 and played 2 guard but had three other big men on our team. wow you really dont know your basketball...

That is CRIDER spelled with a C not a K and u should know that already since you seem to know so much about him. Y does Crider need to play inside when NO ONE has stepped up to challenge his outside shot. He is a big man that can shoot. THat is how you attract colleges, you show your versatility. Anyone can go in and post up! But if You look at the GWOC or OHIO in general how many 6'5" shooters are there?!?! let's b basketball minded here. You obviously sound bitter bashing these player who has done nothing but put in time and hard work! Crider is just a soph and how many ppl did he dunk on his freshman year? Let's just be honest on here.....not bitter and bashing. bring the facts not your dream to be in there position!

[KD22]

if you think wayne will dominate youve got another thing coming...lamar mallory is an incredibly overrated player. trice is not very good at all. crider is kinda soft and braxton will be soft because of his injury.wayne lost their top five players. wayne doesnt win more than 12 games...

Wayne will have good season...they lost a good point guard and some athletic guys but I do not believe that who they lost were the TOP FIVE! Offensively Lenoir, Winkfield and Gilmer but other than that they will be able to at least have 5 strong defensive minded people playing @ all times. Winkfield and Milligan couldn't guard anyone. Neither of the 2 were very consistant and were the 1st subs 2 come out. THe defense will carry them. Wanye will be fine. Will be Top 2 in GWOC this year.

[Elks48]

ummm yea kuba graduated

Right, I was trying to say he would play where Kub did last year. :hello:

[G-Man]

anyways, know what youre talking about before you speak.what dv 1 offers has trice got. are we talking about the same trice who didnt even avg 3 minutes in eighth grade. how about this for ya? lets see, if i shot 40 percent from three as a sophomore (i shot 46%) and shot 15 threes a game like trice did, i would score that much too. and appear better than i really am. trice i believe shot around 12 or 13 threes a game by the end of the year. so if he shoots 25 % which is pathetic, he score an easy 9 points. which is about what he averaged. so there is no way he got a d1 offer avg 9 points in tenth grade. you're killing me. and what high school team or college scholarship for basketball did you get? how many college or high school coaches asked you to be on their staff? prolly not as many as i got...

You are ridiculous and a joke and have no idea what your talking about. !st of all Trice shot 44% FROM THE 3pt line as a freshman and never even got up 12 shots in a single game last year (fact). I'm glad that you know there is no way he's got D-1 offers. Trice and Crider both have D-1 offers right now. For someone that was supposed to be so good in high school i sure don't see in basketball banners that you contributed to in the Wayne gym. You don't even know what middle school team Trice played for. wow way to know your personnel Mr. Bigtime coach and player. He had 20-25 pts a game against both huber heights teams in 8th grade. Remember the light skin kid with the braids back then.

[ex warrior captain]

You are ridiculous and a joke and have no idea what your talking about. !st of all Trice shot 44% FROM THE 3pt line as a freshman and never even got up 12 shots in a single game last year (fact). I'm glad that you know there is no way he's got D-1 offers. Trice and Crider both have D-1 offers right now. For someone that was supposed to be so good in high school i sure don't see in basketball banners that you contributed to in the Wayne gym. You don't even know what middle school team Trice played for.. wow way to know your personnel Mr. Bigtime coach and player. He had 20-25 pts a game against both huber heights teams in 8th grade. Remember the light skin kid with the braids back then.

What i will say is that I apologize for ruffling so many feathers. i understand that these kids are still very young and will definitely turn heads in years to come. i just dont see it happening this year with so much lost. i played ball at wayne and have always been a hardcore wayne fan. if you know who i am then you know how passionately i care about this program and how much i care about the players in it. if i offended anyone im sorry. as you have seen i have gotten some facts messed up and i admit that and im sorry. forgive me for things ive said. it wasnt my intention to upset anyone.

[dbeyh201]

Ex warrior, I cannot say I agree with you about your opinion on Wayne's season this year, but this being my first post I will say that I am not real wild about some of the post bashing your opinion on the team. I hope I don't get bashed everytime I post an negative opinion about Wayne.

[OnTheWarPath]

Wayne will strugggle to win 12 games. Coach Trice was given a gift with last years team and didn't even make a substantial jump. 1 game farther in tourney play, and got drilled for that matter. The leadership is gone and i don't see anyone stepping up this year. LM cannot be counted upon, very unstable and wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make it through the season.

[strickly_layups]

Who even cared about Wayne basketball until last year??? The coaching change was the difference, its obvious, don't be mad just cheer for your school homie

[shortballer14]

Scratch off at least one name for the Beavers for this season. Tyler Pollack is a D I recruit for soccer and has exciting chances for that, so he is not coming back this year.

As far as Sundstrom, rumor has it he may be hurt, something in the knee. Testing is going on right now, which leaves the Beavers hurting for a big man in a bad way.

[SoReal]

Tyler pollock is not playing this year made some High level soccer team in Columbus, Brad Sunstrom tore his acl in football out for the year wasn't playing anyway. Someone told me Beavercreek has a kid who had 45 points in his first Junior High game and isn't even playing in High School because he is a big time runner in Track and Cross Country also top 10 ten at State in Diving. I saw this kid play and he is by far the best pure shooter I've ever seen shoot a friend of mine saw him get 54 points last year playing in an adult league game with ex-high school and college players he said he had 14 threes in 1 game. The politics were a joke at Beavercreek and he's not even playing anymore. A neighbor of mine said when he was in the 5th grade on 7 consecutive possessions on offensive he hit 7 straight threes ---- that's more points than Beavercreek scores in a half of a Varsity game they will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

[GCL BBALL]

First off the guy talking about Wayne is clueless. Trice, Miller and Crider are some of the best sophs in the state. Now with them all being so young it will be intresting to see what happens when they get tested by a club with strong physical seniors and Im talking about good strong, physical seniors. Wayne will be a contender for sure. I'll be intrested to see if the shooter (JB) is eligible to play this year. Centerville is probably the front runner with alittle more size, depth, and experience than Wayne. Fairmont should be pretty solid as well as Springfield. Beavercreek seems to have uncertainty surronding there team but the Beavers are normally a tough match up. I have heard Northmont will be down this year but they are well coached so I wouldnt count them out of it. All in all the Central should be loaded.
In the North all go with Trotwood followed by Sidney, Butler, Troy and Piqua. Trotwood might be pretty good with ARob and now Winn and Brandon. Sidney and Butler I have heard are improving. Word is Butler is very big! I think Troy and Piqua are rebuilding im not sure though if any of there fans can help let me know?
In the South I like Springboro to edge out Leabanon.Followed by Xenia, Fairborn, and Miamisburg. Springboro returns a bit more than Lebanon who lost the Helleman kid who was just a terrific player for them. I think the other 3 programs are just dry on talent right now but if someone knows something I dont please let me know?

All in all i cant wait for season to get going!!

[G-Man]

First off the guy talking about Wayne is clueless. Trice, Miller and Crider are some of the best sophs in the state. Now with them all being so young it will be intresting to see what happens when they get tested by a club with strong physical seniors and Im talking about good strong, physical seniors. Wayne will be a contender for sure. I'll be intrested to see if the shooter (JB) is eligible to play this year. Centerville is probably the front runner with alittle more size, depth, and experience than Wayne. Fairmont should be pretty solid as well as Springfield. Beavercreek seems to have uncertainty surronding there team but the Beavers are normally a tough match up. I have heard Northmont will be down this year but they are well coached so I wouldnt count them out of it. All in all the Central should be loaded.
In the North all go with Trotwood followed by Sidney, Butler, Troy and Piqua. Trotwood might be pretty good with ARob and now Winn and Brandon. Sidney and Butler I have heard are improving. Word is Butler is very big! I think Troy and Piqua are rebuilding im not sure though if any of there fans can help let me know?
In the South I like Springboro to edge out Leabanon.Followed by Xenia, Fairborn, and Miamisburg. Springboro returns a bit more than Lebanon who lost the Helleman kid who was just a terrific player for them. I think the other 3 programs are just dry on talent right now but if someone knows something I dont please let me know?

All in all i cant wait for season to get going!!

Nice post GCL. I think you are right on the nose with your assessments of the teams. I think Trotwood will post a big time record because the schedule is pretty weak with the exception of the montrose christian game in the flyin to the hoop. The worthington christian game will turn out to be a joke because their best player transferred. I believe Trotwood is loaded and could be one of the deepest teams out there. Centerville will definitely be the front runner after the summer they had and being a veteran team. Can't wait for the season to start either.

[myspace1412]

Tyler pollock is not playing this year made some High level soccer team in Columbus, Brad Sunstrom tore his acl in football out for the year wasn't playing anyway. Someone told me Beavercreek has a kid who had 45 points in his first Junior High game and isn't even playing in High School because he is a big time runner in Track and Cross Country also top 10 ten at State in Diving. I saw this kid play and he is by far the best pure shooter I've ever seen shoot a friend of mine saw him get 54 points last year playing in an adult league game with ex-high school and college players he said he had 14 threes in 1 game. The politics were a joke at Beavercreek and he's not even playing anymore. A neighbor of mine said when he was in the 5th grade on 7 consecutive possessions on offensive he hit 7 straight threes ---- that's more points than Beavercreek scores in a half of a Varsity game they will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

so in the 5th grade this kid had 21 points in a matter of minutes......45 points in a middle school game(dont they only play 6 minute quarters?) 54 in an adult league against college/ex high school plaers but wont play for the high school something sounds kinda funny with your story

[SoReal]

If Kareem Abdul Jabbar moved into Beavercreek he wouldn't play until one of the kids whose dad played there or his dad played there it should be best possible talent but not here at this school I asked the person who told me this said it's true he said ask Joe Staley at C.j. Jim Brown at Northmont, Jim Staley at Centerville he played against there kids and sons kids. Joe Staley told him he had 11 threes against his son's team in 8th grade at Kettering Middle school. This guy said this kid was a five time state Gymnastics champion and made 127 three pointers in Middle School in two short seasons. Also, he said he is the best athlete he's seen in this town in not 1 sport about 7 or 8. He said the kid ran a 4:30 mile in 8th grade.

[troyboy73]

Wayne has upgraded their non-conference schedule. They play Alter, Hamilton, Findlay Prep (Flyin to the Hoop), Graham, Dunbar (at UD), at Bowling Green (State Farm Shootout).

[shortballer14]

Tyler pollock is not playing this year made some High level soccer team in Columbus, Brad Sunstrom tore his acl in football out for the year wasn't playing anyway. Someone told me Beavercreek has a kid who had 45 points in his first Junior High game and isn't even playing in High School because he is a big time runner in Track and Cross Country also top 10 ten at State in Diving. I saw this kid play and he is by far the best pure shooter I've ever seen shoot a friend of mine saw him get 54 points last year playing in an adult league game with ex-high school and college players he said he had 14 threes in 1 game. The politics were a joke at Beavercreek and he's not even playing anymore. A neighbor of mine said when he was in the 5th grade on 7 consecutive possessions on offensive he hit 7 straight threes ---- that's more points than Beavercreek scores in a half of a Varsity game they will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

Sundstrom was going to play, but you were right, that ACL tear puts the beavers down a center. Which means a few of their 6'4'' guys will have to step up in a big way.

[KD22]

Wayne has upgraded their non-conference schedule. They play Alter, Hamilton, Findlay Prep (Flyin to the Hoop), Graham, Dunbar (at UD), at Bowling Green (State Farm Shootout).

Nice 2 see wayne has competitive schedule with wide range af areas and leagues. What's in Bowling Green? Ohio? or Kentucky? Who are they playing?

[troyboy73]

It is at BGSU in Ohio. If they play Bowling Green High School, they are led by Chauncey Orr (just a soph.). He is the son of former Cincinnati Withrow and Syracuse star Louis Orr.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Sidney has 3 returning starters and 3 other players who saw significant time on Varsity last season. If they run into a team with size they will have trouble as was the case against Centerville in the 2nd Round of the tourney last year.

As for conference play, I don't see much from Troy, Piqua, or Butler. So, The GWOC North might come down to Trotwood and Sidney. Would be fitting since Sidney's upset over Northmont last year gave Trotwood the outright Title.

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

Sundstrom was going to play, but you were right, that ACL tear puts the beavers down a center. Which means a few of their 6'4'' guys will have to step up in a big way.

The problem is both of the 6'4" guys they have don't like to guard the post..without sundstrom or pollock they will be lucky to beat anyone in the GWOC

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

Tyler pollock is not playing this year made some High level soccer team in Columbus, Brad Sunstrom tore his acl in football out for the year wasn't playing anyway. Someone told me Beavercreek has a kid who had 45 points in his first Junior High game and isn't even playing in High School because he is a big time runner in Track and Cross Country also top 10 ten at State in Diving. I saw this kid play and he is by far the best pure shooter I've ever seen shoot a friend of mine saw him get 54 points last year playing in an adult league game with ex-high school and college players he said he had 14 threes in 1 game. The politics were a joke at Beavercreek and he's not even playing anymore. A neighbor of mine said when he was in the 5th grade on 7 consecutive possessions on offensive he hit 7 straight threes ---- that's more points than Beavercreek scores in a half of a Varsity game they will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

i live in beavercreek and there is no such player out here..do you know what grade he is in now?

[myspace1412]

i live in beavercreek and there is no such player out here..do you know what grade he is in now?

something told me this was to good to be true

[shortballer14]

The problem is both of the 6'4" guys they have don't like to guard the post..without sundstrom or pollock they will be lucky to beat anyone in the GWOC

i don't think it's that they don't like to guard the post, the problem is they both are natural shooters so they want to be outside, not stuck in the paint. oh well...we will see how the season goes:shrug:

[dbeyh201]

I probably wouldnt call ex warrior clueless. The guy has had a direct connection with the team since he was a little kid. I believe his dad coached at the high school for a while and he was heavily recruited by 7 NCAA schools. Ex warrior if I remember correctly also has been asked by 2 college coaches to join the staff.

Enough about that. Anyone have any news on my firebirds? Record predictions?

[jakethesnake11]

So Real the kids dad is nuts and he should quit posting calling himself so real

[G-Man]

It is at BGSU in Ohio. If they play Bowling Green High School, they are led by Chauncey Orr (just a soph.). He is the son of former Cincinnati Withrow and Syracuse star Louis Orr.

It is actually Bowling Green, Kentucky. They are playing against Bowling green High School in a State Farm Shootout. I believe there are 10 teams in the event with wayne being the only Ohio team. There are other teams from Tennessee.

[ptplayer]

With Mark Baker taken over at Trotwood,I am curious to hear what you posters ( Yappi land)think about this coaching change. And how will the team do this year.

[ex warrior captain]

I probably wouldnt call ex warrior clueless. The guy has had a direct connection with the team since he was a little kid. I believe his dad coached at the high school for a while and he was heavily recruited by 7 NCAA schools. Ex warrior if I remember correctly also has been asked by 2 college coaches to join the staff.

Enough about that. Anyone have any news on my firebirds? Record predictions?


Dont bother dude...I dont know you but you seem to know me like everyone else on here. it doesnt matter how much true credibility you have, it means nothing to these guys. ps ive heard fairmont will be pretty decent this year.

[Elks48]

Fairmont always has the best home court advantage in the league.

[MajorFan]

^^^^ not true.

Beavercreek has beaten the Firebirds in Trent Arena the last two years running.

[Elks48]

^^^^ not true.

Beavercreek has beaten the Firebirds in Trent Arena the last two years running.

So has Centerville, my point was that nothing in the GWOC compares to Trent Arena.

[SFIND]

So has Centerville, my point was that nothing in the GWOC compares to Trent Arena.

You're right, and that's saying something with Centerville's gym.

Actually, Wayne, Beavercreek, and Northmont don't have anything to brag about (Creek and T-bolts especially), so Centerville and the new Springfield gym are the only other 'nice' ones.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

You're right, and that's saying something with Centerville's gym.

Actually, Wayne, Beavercreek, and Northmont don't have anything to brag about (Creek and T-bolts especially), so Centerville and the new Springfield gym are the only other 'nice' ones.


GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!


Yeah the gym out here in beavercreek sucks but thats not why i moved my kids here (it was for the schools)

[Wayneleadoff06]

So that guy from "Fairmont" comes out of nowhere saying he is a new poster and the 1st thing he does is come to your defense. If you read through the thread you will see through the crap. He talks you up like you were being recruited heavily in high school. Sounds like you made a new name and threw some stuff out there to make yourself look credible. If I remember right you didnt even start until your senior year while you were a key contributor as a junior, and while you were a good shooter. He got into coaching around Wayne cuz his father was a coach in the program and also because like he said he was a huge Wayne fan and gym rat. I dont mean to get on here and hate on you, but some of the stuff you have written on here is complete B.S. These kids from Wayne that were mentioned above all have worked hard and dont deserve to have the things you said about them said. They were all key contributors to a District Title as FRESHMAN.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Since when did this thread turn into a Huber Heights pissing match?

I suggest you take your problems up with someone via PM.

[111411]

Since when did this thread turn into a Huber Heights pissing match?

I suggest you take your problems up with someone via PM.

Yes, that's enough.

[hsfanOnRC]

Put your money where your mouth is. I guarantee Wayne wins more than 12 games. your sign on is ex warrior captain what a joke. you must be a true hater. Trice and Crider both have 4 D-1 scholarship offers each already as sophomores, so someone thinks they're pretty good and they probably don't care about what you think. What a joke! Ex-Warrior Captain my butt!

If they do, I'm suprised. I've seen both play. While they are good, they are good for being a freshman. Let's see how they progress this year. VCan you tell me the DI's that have offered? I bet they are lower teir DI teams.

[hsfanOnRC]

What are you talking about??? know your facts b4 you open your mouth, Trice played at Springfield Roosevelt where he led his team to the GWOC championship only to loose to Springfield Hayward who had Braxton Miller, Akeem Freeman and Trey Depriest.. In 8th grade they got beat in the semi finals.. Little Trav is one of the top sophmores in the state like it or not, you must be a former player who sat on the bench behind him or has a relative who wanted to play, who knows, lets not forget that these are kids not pros. stop bashing PLEASE!!!!!!!

Strictly,
You have to be kidding me, right? If he is one of the top sophs in the state, I'm the King of England! LOL!

I haven't seen it, and I've seen him play against South and in the tourney game they lost @ UD. Like I said, he's good, but not quite at the level you are stating.

I just don't agree........ yet. He has potential, but until he unleashes it, he jsut another coaches son.

[hsfanOnRC]

Wayne will strugggle to win 12 games. Coach Trice was given a gift with last years team and didn't even make a substantial jump. 1 game farther in tourney play, and got drilled for that matter. The leadership is gone and i don't see anyone stepping up this year. LM cannot be counted upon, very unstable and wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make it through the season.

They did lose alot, but some were ball hogs and were all about "me", "me" and "me". If Trice can get them to be more unselfish, this team could suprise a lot of people. But I don't know if he can do that or not. Becasue he didn't stop that type of play last year, and everyone could see it!

[myspace1412]

If they do, I'm suprised. I've seen both play. While they are good, they are good for being a freshman. Let's see how they progress this year. VCan you tell me the DI's that have offered? I bet they are lower teir DI teams.

actually crider is one of the top recruits for his class and trice is slowly climbing..ive heard from a pretty reliable source they both have an upcoming
visit with the buckeyes

[hsfanOnRC]

actually crider is one of the top recruits for his class and trice is slowly climbing..ive heard from a pretty reliable source they both have an upcoming
visit with the buckeyes

Wow! I'm suprised by that. Well I guess I just don't know what I'm talking about. :shrug:

I'm not sure who the Crider kid is, what class is he in?

What's your evaluation of the Trice kid, myspace? I just didn't see all that when he played against South and the tourney game @ UD. Did you?

[OnTheWarPath]

So that guy from "Fairmont" comes out of nowhere saying he is a new poster and the 1st thing he does is come to your defense. If you read through the thread you will see through the crap. He talks you up like you were being recruited heavily in high school. Sounds like you made a new name and threw some stuff out there to make yourself look credible. If I remember right you didnt even start until your senior year while you were a key contributor as a junior, and while you were a good shooter. He got into coaching around Wayne cuz his father was a coach in the program and also because like he said he was a huge Wayne fan and gym rat. I dont mean to get on here and hate on you, but some of the stuff you have written on here is complete B.S. These kids from Wayne that were mentioned above all have worked hard and dont deserve to have the things you said about them said. They were all key contributors to a District Title as FRESHMAN.

You must be a parent, The SENIORS from last year along with the previous coach were the main reason Wayne won a District Title last year. Wake up and realize the program and players were already in place. Give credit where it is due!

[hsfanOnRC]

You must be a parent, The SENIORS from last year along with the previous coach were the main reason Wayne won a District Title last year. Wake up and realize the program and players were already in place. Give credit where it is due!

They were also the main reason they lost that game @ UD! :shrug:

[myspace1412]

Wow! I'm suprised by that. Well I guess I just don't know what I'm talking about. :shrug:

I'm not sure who the Crider kid is, what class is he in?

What's your evaluation of the Trice kid, myspace? I just didn't see all that when he played against South and the tourney game @ UD. Did you?

crider is a sophomore i believe and a beast....and as far as trice he might be the best shooter in the league(just my opinion) only thing hurting him is size.........and i dont think he had the greatest tournament at ud but he played great at xavier

[G-Man]

You must be a parent, The SENIORS from last year along with the previous coach were the main reason Wayne won a District Title last year. Wake up and realize the program and players were already in place. Give credit where it is due!

I don't think that Trice wants all the credit that your talking about nor have i ever heard that he has tried to claim it. How silly are you to care unless you just are upset about Jutras or are a Trice hater. I know some of the things that happened with that team last year and it was not a bed of roses. If you ask those seniors, which i have talked to several of them they feel that Trice made a positive impact on their team as well as their lives. Just because you feel the players were in place means nothing. It doesn't mean Jutras was going to lead them to a district championship or not. It is not Trice's fault that Jutras was let go. He has played the hand he was dealt.

[G-Man]

Strictly,
You have to be kidding me, right? If he is one of the top sophs in the state, I'm the King of England! LOL!

I haven't seen it, and I've seen him play against South and in the tourney game they lost @ UD. Like I said, he's good, but not quite at the level you are stating.

I just don't agree........ yet. He has potential, but until he unleashes it, he jsut another coaches son.

Hello King of England! Like it or not the state player rankings came out a week and a half ago and Trice is ranked the #2 PG in the 2011 class behind only Stevie Taylor from Gahanna. Markus Crider is ranked the #1 SF in the 2011 class. This is all from Prep Spotlight and John Stovall. Regardless of class Markus crider is ranked the 8th best recruiting prospect in the state and Trice is ranked 43rd. REGARDLESS OF CLASS. Hate all you want. Those boys work hard and they will be rewarded. By the way, Wayne never lost a game at UD last year so whoever you were there watchin (& smokin with) it wasn't them.

[G-Man]

If they do, I'm suprised. I've seen both play. While they are good, they are good for being a freshman. Let's see how they progress this year. VCan you tell me the DI's that have offered? I bet they are lower teir DI teams.

This might have been one of the worse statements posted in a while. Are you really hating on these kids or want them to fail so much that you would stoop to saying " I bet they are lower teir D1 teams." That is terrible. The teams are Dayton (plenty of success over the past couple of years), Cleveland State ( picked to win the Horizon league - 2 guards who may be NBA bound), Wright State (improving and have been in the Ncaa tournament) and Akron (program that is getting better and finished 2nd in the mac last year 24-11). So are any of those 4 programs one that a sophomore should be ashamed of getting a full-ride scholarship from. What a joke you must be! Check scout.com and other national scouting services for what is being said about these two young players.

[G-Man]

Reading material for the haters on Trice and Crider. This is scout.com on their recent chicago camp they were invited and went to. There are 2 paragraphs on each as you scroll through. I left the entire article for credibility. By the way out of some 80-100 sophomores they both made the top 20 all-star game.

Pangos All-Midwest Frosh/Soph Camp Recap

Michael Chandler By Evan Daniels
Recruiting Analyst
Posted Oct 20, 2008


CHICAGO -- For the third year in a row an Indianapolis (Ind.) Lawrence North standout took home the Pangos All-Midwest Frosh/SophCamp MVP. Although the MVP went to a big man, the camp, which was filled with talent, was dominated by guards.

Last year the All-Midwest camp was in Indianapolis, this year it was moved to Chicago. Despite the move an Indianapolis native took home the MVP award – Michael Chandler. The talented big man played hard throughout the weekend and is showing signs of improvement every time out.
While Chandler was the MVP, it was the guard play that impressed us the most this past weekend. There were a handful of small, but quick guards in attendance, but also a few strong, tough playmakers that will be in the once scene for years to come.

Among the best guard prospects at the camp were Tracy Abrams, Ryan Boatright and George Marshall. They each had their moments during the event and each has a different style of game.

Michael Chandler, C – There’s no question that Chandler was top prospect at the All-Midwest camp. At 6-foot-10, 220-pounds, Chandler imposed his will in the paint on both ends of the floor. Although he still has a ways to go as far as scoring with his back to the basket, he plays hard, runs the floor and most importantly is active. Around the rim, he can use both hands and he showed a more developed right-hook than we saw this summer. In the Top 20 Cream of the Crop game he went for 18 points and 11 rebounds.

Tracy Abrams, PG/SG – Already known in Chicago as the next big thing as far as guards go, Abrams more than lived up to expectations during the event. A polite, enjoyable kid off the court, Abrams turns up the intensity during games and plays an aggressive brand of ball. He uses quick dribbles and hesitation moves to get by defenders. Once at the rim he uses his strong frame and athleticism to finish. His range extends behind the three-point line and he’s capable of stepping in and knocking down mid-range jumpers as well.

When motivated to “D” up, the 6-foot-1 guard has no problem guarding the oppositions best player because of his lateral quickness. Despite his size, Abrams will also mix it up inside for rebounds. Chicago’s crop of 2011 prospects is a good one, and Abrams appears to be one of, if not the, best guard prospect the Windy City has to offer.

Ryan Boatright
Ryan Boatright, PG – An early commit to USC, Boatright has a reputation to live up to. That mission was accomplished at this camp. He has a slight frame that lacks strength, but he doesn’t let that hinder his offensive game. He has a strong, quick handle and often times toys with defenders a bit too much. With that said, he’s a gifted athlete, than can score off the dribble, but is also a knock down spot up shooter. In the Top 20 Cream of the Crop game, Boatright and Abrams went head-to-head and played to a draw.

George Marshall, PG – This pass first point man has the look of a future high major guard. Marshall, a product of Chicago (Ill.) Brooks College Prep, is at best when he attacks the rim. A smooth ball handler, Marshall is quick off the bounce and uses crossovers and hesitations moves to keep defenders off balance. The 5-foot-11, 165-pounder has no problem scoring either. Although he didn’t hit a ton of threes, he’s got good form and appears to have a solid looking stroke from deep. He also has a developed mid-range game too. Marshall went for 13 points in the Top 20 Cream of the Crop.

Stevie Taylor, PG – For the second weekend in a row we laid our eyes on this quick, elusive point guard from Ohio. A joy to watch, Taylor plays hard, looks for and creates for teammates. His shot is consistent from three, but he can also step in and knock down mid-range jumpers or drop in floaters.

P.J. Boutte, PG -- Similar to Taylor, Boutte is just 5-foot-7, but the talented lead man is quick, handles the ball well and has no problems getting into the lane. He rarely over penetrates and is a tough guard that you can trust with the ball. In the Top 20 all-star game, Boutte went for 15 points and seven assists.

Charles Lee, PG – While Taylor and Boutte were already on our radar, Lee made a name for himself by matching up with Taylor and getting the best of him. Just 5-foot-7, Lee uses his toughness and quickness to frustrate the opposition on both ends of the court. Lee has a strong handle, can shoot it from deep and has a nice mid-range jumper.

Ryan Taylor, PF – A 6-foot-5, 200-pound forward, Taylor is a bull on the court. In the paint he uses his strength and athleticism to grab rebounds, intimidate the opposition and score inside. He’s also developing more of a face up game. Although he’s not consistent yet, he is capable of hitting mid-range jumpers and he likes to attack from the free throw line. Taylor has a knack for snagging offensive rebounds and he roams the paint looking for tip dunk opportunities.

Markus Crider, SF/PF – The transition isn’t quite complete, but Crider is in the process of moving his game out the perimeter. At 6-foot-6, 185-pounds, Crider is skilled enough to score inside or step out and attack from the wing. The Huber Heights Wayne standout also proved true from three-point range. He had 10 points and five rebounds in the all-star game.

Brandon Dawson, PF/SF – An Indiana native, Dawson used his athleticism and quick leaping ability to cause havoc in the paint. He was active on the glass throughout the camp and often times pushed the break off defensive rebounds. Much like his AAU teammate, Crider, Dawson, who stands 6-foot-4, projects as a wing, but he’s still in the process of making the move. Dawson did manage to drop in a handful of three-pointers and scored off dribble drives, but must continue to develop his handle. In the Cream of the Crop Top 20 game, he scored 16 points and five rebounds.

Darnell Harris
Darnell Harris, PF – Blessed with a long, lean frame, Harris gets up and down the floor with ease. At 6-foot-7, possibly 6-foot-8, the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Hamilton standout has an impressive skill set. Around the basket, he can use either hand to score and showed a nice jump hook on the block. Facing up defenders is a strength for the big man too, as he’s got great form on his jumper and has range out to 22-feet. Harris had 16 points and nine rebounds in the top all-star game.

Travis Trice, PG/SG – Of all the prospects in the camp, this Springfield (Ohio) Huber Heights standout was clearly the best shooter in the gym. Whether it was off the catch or dribble, Trice, a 5-foot-11 guard, seemed to be dropping in jumpers from all over the court. Playing a smart brand of ball, Trice made good decisions with the ball and was crafty when he got in the lane, using a teardrop floater to score over taller defenders.

Remy Roberts-Burner, PG – Attacking the rim seemed to be what Roberts-Burner does the best. Another tough, quick lead man from Illinois, this 6-foot-1 guard from Joliet (Ill.) West got to the rim, finished with both hands and showed off a mid-range jumper. Going forward the lefty will need to become more consistent from long range, but he is certainly a Division I prospect.

James Crockett, SF – While Chandler was the MVP of the camp, Crocket was the MVP of the Cream of the Crop Top 20 game. The 6-foot-3 wing seemed to be hanging from the rims at every opportunity during the two-day event and in the all-star game he went for 26 points, with nine of the buckets coming off dunks. A standout at Crete (Ill.) Crete-Monee, Crockett went hard to the rim every chance he got. We’d like to see him develop a jumper to keep defenders honest, but his aerial arsenal was a delight to watch.

Corey Hilliard, SG – Every time Hilliard received the ball he looked to score. The 6-foot-1 guard out of Kansas City (Mo.) Raytown South, shot the ball well, despite a slight hitch in his shot. He’s got a decent handle and is an above average athlete. Although we aren’t sure which level, Hilliard will develop into a Division I player.

Brian Greene, PG/SG – On the second day of the Pangos Camp, Green, of Harvey (Ill.) Thornton caught our eye. To go with a strong handle, he’s quick and finished around the rim. He filled the stat sheet in the main all-star game going for 12 points, six assists and five rebounds.

Chandler Thomas, SF/PF – Since the summer, Thomas appears to have been working on his wing skills. At last glance, he spent majority of his time on the block, but this weekend he worked it from the perimeter. Thomas, a lefty, is the owner of an improved jumper. While there were a number of impressive plays this weekend, Thomas had the play of the camp when he drove the lane in a half court setting and slammed home a ferocious slam on a handful of defenders.

Devon Hodges, PF – Standing 6-foot-6 and blessed with a pair of long arms, Hodges has the looks of a future Division I power forward. What level will he be? That’ll be determined by how he develops over the course of the next few years. At this point he has a long, lean frame and is a guy that likes to face up defenders and shoot jumpers, rather than trying to muscle up and score inside.

Chris Harrison
Chris Harrison, PG – When evaluating point guards there a number of things scouts look for. Among the highest on the list is decision making and that’s something that Harrison proved to be a strength throughout camp. The 5-foot-11 prospect out of Louisville (Ky.) Trinity is a tough competitor that’s equipped with an impressive handle, good court vision and a nice shot from long range.

Travis Britt, SG – We didn’t get a great look at this 6-foot-2 freshman, but we evaluated him enough to know he’s a guy to keep an eye on down the road. He’s got a good-looking frame, and what appeared to be an impressive stroke from long range.

Malcolm Hill-Bey, PG – Already a known talent in the city of Chicago, Hill-Bey didn’t show up until the second day of the event, but he certainly made his presence known. Although he stands just 5-foot-8, he’s extremely quick off the bounce and is elusive in the open court. His vision is impressive and the southpaw showed a nice floater in the lane.

Ryan Taylor claimed scholarship offers from Cincinnati, Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State and Kentucky. He said Louisville and Florida were also among the schools showing interest.

Darnell Harris doesn’t have any scholarship offers yet, but he does have some college interest. Kentucky, DePaul, Marquette, Wisconsin and Iowa State are the schools involved.

Stevie Taylor, of Gahanna (Ohio) High, said Akron has offered him a scholarship. Thus far he’s also heard from West Virginia, St. Joseph, Marquette, Virginia Tech and Charlotte.

Brandon Dawson said the interest parties in his recruitment are Butler, Virginia Tech, San Jose State, Purdue and Iowa State.

Travis Trice has offers from Akron, Dayton, Wright State and Cleveland State. Some other schools involved are Purdue, Butler, Ohio State, West Virginia, Xavier, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Clemson and Penn State.

Tracy Abrams
Tracy Abrams took recent unofficial visits to Indiana, Tennessee, Illinois and Kentucky. Ohio State, UCLA and Wake Forest have also shown initial interest. Illinois is his only offer.

Marcus Crider has taken a visit to Xavier and is set to visit Ohio State this weekend. He has offers from Dayton, Wright State and Akron. Other schools involved are Minnesota, Michigan State and Michigan.

George Marshall has already taken a trip to Northwestern. Illinois and Kentucky are also showing the talented point guard interest.

Michael Chandler has a trio of offers -- Ohio State, Louisville and Cincinnati. Kentucky, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Memphis, Purdue and Indiana are also in the mix.

Chris Harrison already holds a trio of scholarship offers. The schools that have offered are Akron, Bradley and Western Kentucky. South Carolina has also shown

[Wayneleadoff06]

Parent? I graduated in the class of 06 G man is like my little bro. Im sorry i see through warrior captains BS. As for giving credit where credit is due. I give all the credit in the world to Waynes seniors last year they are what made that team great. I was just stating that the kids mentioned above were all key contributors to a great team as freshman. They played better in there freshman year than most do in there career at Wayne.

[hsfanOnRC]

Hating? Man, I'm, not hating on this kid. I'm just saying I didn't see all that. You guys are acting like this kid is the next OJ Mayo!
Again, I'm not hating. I just didn't see what everyone else is seeing. I saw them play South and in the tourney game where they lost. Maybe he had bad games those two times. :shrug:
All I'm saying is, he is good, but to put him that high on the pedestal, I'm not buying it yet. That's all. I'm sorry that you don't agree. We can only agree about not agreeing! :shrug:

[G-Man]

Hating? Man, I'm, not hating on this kid. I'm just saying I didn't see all that. You guys are acting like this kid is the next OJ Mayo!
Again, I'm not hating. I just didn't see what everyone else is seeing. I saw them play South and in the tourney game where they lost. Maybe he had bad games those two times. :shrug:
All I'm saying is, he is good, but to put him that high on the pedestal, I'm not buying it yet. That's all. I'm sorry that you don't agree. We can only agree about not agreeing! :shrug:

I'm not arguing. I don't know what pedestal we're talking about. Trice and Crider were 2 of the 3 scorers in double figures in the game they lost and that was at the Cintas center. Neither of them played that well in the district finals. Both kids have grown and definitely gotten stronger. If that is the last time you've seen them play then i understand where your coming from. Trice has grown 4 inches (5'11") and Crider is a legitimate 6'5 - 6'5 1/2. Who said antthing about OJ mayo or anything like that. Those guys come around once in a great while and no one is comparing these guys to him.

[SAl005]

what up G-Man. When you coming back home. hit me up.


P.S. Travis Trice is a beast i played with that fool everyday and the image never changed, the ball hittin the bottom of the net!

[hsfanOnRC]

G-Man,
That's nice to hear about Trice. Hopefully the Wildcats can contain him when they play this year.

It should be a interesting year in the GWOC-C this year. Does anyone know if Springfield and Beavercreek (Xenia and Fairborn too) are in the same region (Columbus) as football?



Go Cats!

[myspace1412]

G-Man,
That's nice to hear about Trice. Hopefully the Wildcats can contain him when they play this year.

It should be a interesting year in the GWOC-C this year. Does anyone know if Springfield and Beavercreek (Xenia and Fairborn too) are in the same region (Columbus) as football?



Go Cats!

basketball regions are different i believe they go by how you get seeded usually the number 1 seeds chooses the columbus region because its typically easier then the cincy region

[hsfanOnRC]

That's right. Thanks myspace.

[KD22]

You must be a parent, The SENIORS from last year along with the previous coach were the main reason Wayne won a District Title last year. Wake up and realize the program and players were already in place. Give credit where it is due!

Previous Coach?!?!? Give me a break...Those kids got themselves there! ur talkin about a coach who had no discipline....He let his player do whatever they wanted...thats y they all had a "me 1st" attitude.

[KD22]

Hello King of England! Like it or not the state player rankings came out a week and a half ago and Trice is ranked the #2 PG in the 2011 class behind only Stevie Taylor from Gahanna. Markus Crider is ranked the #1 SF in the 2011 class. This is all from Prep Spotlight and John Stovall. Regardless of class Markus crider is ranked the 8th best recruiting prospect in the state and Trice is ranked 43rd. REGARDLESS OF CLASS. Hate all you want. Those boys work hard and they will be rewarded. By the way, Wayne never lost a game at UD last year so whoever you were there watchin (& smokin with) it wasn't them.

I was kinda wondering that also..I followed games @ UD...Wayne and Trotwood were the GWOC teams who didnt lose there! Now unless u r talking about the previous year where wayne lost in districts....NOT UNDER TRICE!

[KD22]

Does Trotwood play wayne this year?

[#1fanofJC]

There is no scheduled game between Wayne and Trotwood this year.

[#1fanofJC]

So, explain to me, please, what seems to be a genuine dislike for Coach Trice and what he did with the Wayne team last year? What coach nowadays starts with a team from scratch? Unless you're Springfield High, or Grove City/Central Crossing, Dublin, etc...who were affected by merging or redrawn district lines, a new coach doesn't get an influx of new talent and get the opportunity for a new start. What other new coach in any conference got criticized for inheriting an existing team and doing good things? If Jutras has "fans" that are resentful for his firing, they should take it up with the Athletic Director and the school board. Leave the current coaching staff and players out of the hate-mix.

[ballplayer21@myself,]

Beavercreek will be lucky to win 5 games? Im guessing they should go about 500 this year. Theyre looking at a very tough scedule though

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

Beavercreek will be lucky to win 5 games? Im guessing they should go about 500 this year. Theyre looking at a very tough scedule though

If you think beavercreek wins half of their games who do they beat?
And no i'm not hating on them. I'm just a realist. They will have to start the only two big players that they've got that got no varsity time last year and have never guarded the post.With the teams they play how do they win without size in the paint?

[ballplayer21@myself,]

Theyve got a 6 4' sophmore matt stukenborg that can handle the ball and shoot lights out. And junior transfer thats also 6 4' and can play ball. And their point guard alex arthur has the talent be a standout player this year

[shortballer14]

Beavercreek will be lucky to win 5 games? Im guessing they should go about 500 this year. Theyre looking at a very tough scedule though

I agree. GWOC is getting tougher...and plus they play Trotwood, Dunbar, Thurgood Marshall, and CJ. Might be a long season, but at least its basketball season! :)

[ballplayer21@myself,]

I agree. GWOC is getting tougher...and plus they play Trotwood, Dunbar, Thurgood Marshall, and CJ. Might be a long season, but at least its basketball season! :)

Yeah. Theyre have the hardest schedule theyve had in years. it may be the hardest schedule around.

[shortballer14]

Theyve got a 6 4' sophmore matt stukenborg that can handle the ball and shoot lights out. And junior transfer thats also 6 4' and can play ball. And their point guard alex arthur has the talent be a standout player this year

Matt will be a big impact and arthur is a great guard when he controls himself. Don't forget about some of the JV guys moving up with promise. Rose can jump high and has potential to be a great guard. Who knows about the transfer, but at least he has height. He is about the size of the other kid with Stukenborg, mcgrif i think. No doubt everyone will have to step up and work this season. :confused:

[ballplayer21@myself,]

Matt will be a big impact and arthur is a great guard when he controls himself. Don't forget about some of the JV guys moving up with promise. Rose can jump high and has potential to be a great guard. Who knows about the transfer, but at least he has height. He is about the size of the other kid with Stukenborg, mcgrif i think. No doubt everyone will have to step up and work this season. :confused:

If they focus on theyre Dfense they have the potential to stick with anyone in the league. They could come out and surprise everyone this year

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

Matt will be a big impact and arthur is a great guard when he controls himself. Don't forget about some of the JV guys moving up with promise. Rose can jump high and has potential to be a great guard. Who knows about the transfer, but at least he has height. He is about the size of the other kid with Stukenborg, mcgrif i think. No doubt everyone will have to step up and work this season. :confused:

Matt can shoot the ball I'll give you that but can he guard a 6'5" post player? I dont know who this transfer is but i think the season will go as far as Alex Arthur (has to stay under control)Corey Rose (could have a big year but has to play good d)Justin Circle (all about shot selection with him)and Matt Stuckenberg(once again has to guard the post)takes them but they have to play good help d on big guys

[myspace1412]

So, explain to me, please, what seems to be a genuine dislike for Coach Trice and what he did with the Wayne team last year? What coach nowadays starts with a team from scratch? Unless you're Springfield High, or Grove City/Central Crossing, Dublin, etc...who were affected by merging or redrawn district lines, a new coach doesn't get an influx of new talent and get the opportunity for a new start. What other new coach in any conference got criticized for inheriting an existing team and doing good things? If Jutras has "fans" that are resentful for his firing, they should take it up with the Athletic Director and the school board. Leave the current coaching staff and players out of the hate-mix.

i think its funny trice has haters in huber and they did nothing but win this past season and lost to a good withrow team with one of the best big men in the state

[ballplayer21@myself,]

Matt can shoot the ball I'll give you that but can he guard a 6'5" post player? I dont know who this transfer is but i think the season will go as far as Alex Arthur (has to stay under control)Corey Rose (could have a big year but has to play good d)Justin Circle (all about shot selection with him)and Matt Stuckenberg(once again has to guard the post)takes them but they have to play good help d on big guys

Don't forget about Chris Davis or Ben Mcgriff. They could have a big impact coming off the bench. And also Ryan Sedlar is a freshman this year but is a very mature point guard and could see some significant time

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

Don't forget about Chris Davis or Ben Mcgriff. They could have a big impact coming off the bench. And also Ryan Sedlar is a freshman this year but is a very mature point guard and could see some significant time

Yeah Davis will be a good player on d and Mcgriff will hit some 3's and might be the best free throw shooter(if he he comes of the bench who starts?) but i'm just not sold on the d in the paint!!(without Brad Sundstrom) I'm really looking forward to seeing how Sedlar does though he seems like he could be the future

[shortballer14]

Yeah Davis will be a good player on d and Mcgriff will hit some 3's and might be the best free throw shooter(if he he comes of the bench who starts?) but i'm just not sold on the d in the paint!!(without Brad Sundstrom) I'm really looking forward to seeing how Sedlar does though he seems like he could be the future

Davis is usually pretty good on d. Mcgriff is a great defender just no one really knows his potential. the kid has a lot to prove..if he works hard enough he could start just because who else would start in 4/5 besides stukenborg? those 2 will have to team up. Im looking forward to seeing the rotations put in...although creek will only be about 7 or 8 deep with some subs for breathers. hope the main guys are in great shape!

[ex warrior captain]

well what can i say...first of all i started 11 games as a junior. but thats water under the bridge

im not hating on anything about wayne. i just dont think this will be the year for them. now, next year and the year after, watch out. and no i dont doubt that crider will get some serious college offers. but i want to see just how good a coach trice is with not much experience and losing four starters. im worried about some of the pressure that my be put on these young stars to do well. maybe some of the guys closer to the team can tell us how much pressure if any they are feeling.

oh, and myself and the fairmont guy do not know each other, even tho i do think he was close to jutras.

[ballplayer21@myself,]

Davis is usually pretty good on d. Mcgriff is a great defender just no one really knows his potential. the kid has a lot to prove..if he works hard enough he could start just because who else would start in 4/5 besides stukenborg? those 2 will have to team up. Im looking forward to seeing the rotations put in...although creek will only be about 7 or 8 deep with some subs for breathers. hope the main guys are in great shape!

Oh im sure they are

[CFIK]

What are you talking about??? know your facts b4 you open your mouth, Trice played at Springfield Roosevelt where he led his team to the GWOC championship only to loose to Springfield Hayward who had Braxton Miller, Akeem Freeman and Trey Depriest.. In 8th grade they got beat in the semi finals.. Little Trav is one of the top sophmores in the state like it or not, you must be a former player who sat on the bench behind him or has a relative who wanted to play, who knows, lets not forget that these are kids not pros. stop bashing PLEASE!!!!!!!I know it's history, but it still hurts to see Trice and Miller at Wayne rather than Springfield. Could you imagine that Sophomore foursome in Blue and Gold? I just keep thinking what if. :blush:

GO CATS!!!!!!!

[jakethesnake11]

I know Kavanaugh returns as the League's leading scorer (20.7) he also returns more rebounds then any team in the GWOC Central and he shot and made more free throws then any team returns in the GWOC and just think they return 4 starters , GWOC Champs 4 straight--District Finals or better 7 straight years, DDN Champs 3 out of the last four years.
You ask about 6'5 shooters and Centeille returns Mike Griffin with 21 last year and 44% from the three as a sub. Replogle, White, Ashworth, Crawford, etc.
They also won the GWOC in Freshman and Reserve League last year.

[bbalfan]

I know Kavanaugh returns as the League's leading scorer (20.7) he also returns more rebounds then any team in the GWOC Central and he shot and made more free throws then any team returns in the GWOC and just think they return 4 starters , GWOC Champs 4 straight--District Finals or better 7 straight years, DDN Champs 3 out of the last four years.
You ask about 6'5 shooters and Centeille returns Mike Griffin with 21 last year and 44% from the three as a sub. Replogle, White, Ashworth, Crawford, etc.
They also won the GWOC in Freshman and Reserve League last year.




I personally don't see anyone in the GWOC touching Centerville. They win the Dayton Area hands down.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

I personally don't see anyone in the GWOC touching Centerville. They win the Dayton Area hands down.

NO! Really!

Thanks for pointing out what we already know.

[bbalfan]

NO! Really!

Thanks for pointing out what we already know.





Lighten up. Since when can't we give an opinion???:shrug:

[night vision]

If Kareem Abdul Jabbar moved into Beavercreek he wouldn't play until one of the kids whose dad played there or his dad played there it should be best possible talent but not here at this school I asked the person who told me this said it's true he said ask Joe Staley at C.j. Jim Brown at Northmont, Jim Staley at Centerville he played against there kids and sons kids. Joe Staley told him he had 11 threes against his son's team in 8th grade at Kettering Middle school. This guy said this kid was a five time state Gymnastics champion and made 127 three pointers in Middle School in two short seasons. Also, he said he is the best athlete he's seen in this town in not 1 sport about 7 or 8. He said the kid ran a 4:30 mile in 8th grade.

I did some digging around and called my friend at Beavercreek who used to coach at the middle school level and assuming this kid would be a senior, the only person we could come up with was a kid named Petrie ?, noboby could remember his first name.

[shortballer14]

I did some digging around and called my friend at Beavercreek who used to coach at the middle school level and assuming this kid would be a senior, the only person we could come up with was a kid named Petrie ?, noboby could remember his first name.

thats who i was thinking of...theres two boys..ones a senior i think which would make the other a junior..not sure which one SoReal is talking about..

[night vision]

thats who i was thinking of...theres two boys..ones a senior i think which would make the other a junior..not sure which one SoReal is talking about..

SoReal....which one? Not sure that he made an impact in the Beavercreek system, and if he was that good, why he could be a super star for Creek this season! I think someone's dad is just wanting it to be true!

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Lighten up. Since when can't we give an opinion???:shrug:

Anybody worth their salt knows Centerville will be the top team in Dayton this year. Heck, They were the top team in Dayton last year even though they didn't make it as far as Trotwood in the tourney.

It has nothing to do with your opinion because most people feel the same way. Like I said, Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Sounds like you are the one who needs to lighten up.

[LOVE OF THE GAME]

I did some digging around and called my friend at Beavercreek who used to coach at the middle school level and assuming this kid would be a senior, the only person we could come up with was a kid named Petrie ?, noboby could remember his first name.

Petry is his name he would have been a junior and that kid was not the player these stories on here have painted. He had a real nice shot if he was wide open. He was small so it was hard for him to get his shot off.He did have 30 something in the 7th grade.I think he had 7 or 8 from the three. He could shoot but his size caught up with him and other players passed him up in skills before high school. As far as all the other B.S that has been posted on here about him that's all it is.

[Warrior01]

anyways, know what youre talking about before you speak.what dv 1 offers has trice got. are we talking about the same trice who didnt even avg 3 minutes in eighth grade. how about this for ya? lets see, if i shot 40 percent from three as a sophomore (i shot 46%) and shot 15 threes a game like trice did, i would score that much too. and appear better than i really am. trice i believe shot around 12 or 13 threes a game by the end of the year. so if he shoots 25 % which is pathetic, he score an easy 9 points. which is about what he averaged. so there is no way he got a d1 offer avg 9 points in tenth grade. you're killing me. and what high school team or college scholarship for basketball did you get? how many college or high school coaches asked you to be on their staff? prolly not as many as i got...


No way did Trice shoot 12 or 13 threes a game! That's just crazy. He probably didn't average over 12 or 13 minutes a game. Can't argue with anything else you said...just saying that he didn't shoot NEARLY that amount.

[myspace1412]

Anybody worth their salt knows Centerville will be the top team in Dayton this year. Heck, They were the top team in Dayton last year even though they didn't make it as far as Trotwood in the tourney.

It has nothing to do with your opinion because most people feel the same way. Like I said, Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Sounds like you are the one who needs to lighten up.

yes centerville will most likely be the best team in the dayton area. but lets be honest other then dunbar a couple years ago being the best team in the dayton area has meant nothing..the big ? is how good will this team be when they start battling cincy schools

[ruskin]

Other then Aaron Robinson, who do they have coming back? What should we expect from new Coach Mark Baker?

I did hear they have 2 of Dunbar's best players in Keith Winn and Darion Brandon.

Any other players to look out for? What are the predictions for the Rams this year?

[GCL BBALL]

Im extremely excited for the start of the 08-09 season!! I do get alittle sick and tired of listening to all these Cincinnati posters saying they are the greatest garabage on here! The Cincinnati schools do have a better tradition and have more state titles but recently the tide is turning weather they want to admit it or not! First of all last year Trotwood beat mighty Moeller and Wayne beat Elder. St.X beat Northmont and Princeton beat Centerville. So thats 2-2 dead even in the districts. The year before Cincy had a great run and both Moeller and X made the state, but the year before that Trotwood went so weather they want to admit it or not the Dayton schools have closed the gap. The reality of it is that most of these match-ups in the district between Cincinnati and Dayton power houses are great games decided by a couple of key plays and for the most part the talent and coaching are great with the powerhouses from both cities. It's also ironic the Cincinnati posters dont bring up Division 2 where the regional champ has come from the Dayton area like 8 out of the last 10 years between Alter, C-J, Dunbar and last year Graham. Let's just be honest both cities have great basketball and are just about even so rather than brag one way or the other lets just enjoy it!!!

[ex warrior captain]

12/09 H Lebanon W too much speed for wayne
12/12 A Fairmont L home teams win this series
12/13 A Alter L wayne teams dont handle disciplined teams
12/16 A Miamisburg W wayne wins 50+
12/19 H Springfield W not by much
1/06 A Piqua W 30+
1/09 H Centerville L great game, wayne has no match for size
1/13 A Graham W dont be surprised if this game is close
1/16 A Northmont W 20+
1/19 N Findlay Prep (NV) (Flyin’ To the Hoop @ 7:30 PM) L
1/23 A Beavercreek W Creek way down, 25+
1/27 H Troy W 30+
1/30 H Fairmont W home court
1/31 A Bowling Green High School (State Farm Shootout) W gut feeling...
2/06 A Springfield W not by much
2/10 A Centerville L ville sweeps wayne
2/13 H Northmont W 20+
2/15 A Dunbar @ UD Arena L waynes worst loss, 20+
2/20 H Beavercreek W wayne rebounds with 30+ win

Wayne has a interesting schedule. one that should prepare them for tournament play. the lack of experience will hurt them against ville and at fairmont. key games would be the findlay prep game, the bowling green game, at springfield, and fairmont at home. the graham game is a sleeper game. if wayne takes them lightly, it could get ugly.

i had said that wayne wont win 12 games. but i must admit that was before looking at the schedule. ill give them 13-6. but i wouldnt be surprised by a 15-4 or a 11-8 season either. i believe the twentieth game is against west carrollton or greenville. there is another W. good luck wayne and i hope those young kids do well. ill be cheering for them....

[myspace1412]

im not even from wayne and dont see them losing to fairmont this is a talented wayne team and will surprise some people this year

[shortballer14]

im not even from wayne and dont see them losing to fairmont this is a talented wayne team and will surprise some people this year

agreed. even if wayne is missing the talent that graduated with the seniors, there's no way they lose to fairmont.

[vamp2syd]

Ex Warrior Captain.

Wayne is not playing Graham this season, they are playing Future Academy as well as Hamilton....

[HHW96]

Ex Warrior Captain.

Wayne is not playing Graham this season, they are playing Future Academy as well as Hamilton....

Vamps... Scholastic Play-by-play website still has them listed as the night cap on January 10 playing Graham.

Here is the link:

http://www.scholasticpbpnetwork.com/classics.htm

[HoopHound]

Any of you GWOC fans willing to enter conference scores during the upcoming season?

If one or more of you are willing to do this valuable service for the forum, you can sign up here...
http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179292

PLEASE read the first post in that thread CAREFULLY before commiting. The is a season-long job we're requesting your help with!! :angel:

Can you help out the forum? :)

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Any of you GWOC fans willing to enter conference scores during the upcoming season?

If one or more of you are willing to do this valuable service for the forum, you can sign up here...
http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179292

PLEASE read the first post in that thread CAREFULLY before commiting. The is a season-long job we're requesting your help with!! :angel:

Can you help out the forum? :)

I usually cover the GWOC teams and all scores I get from DDN all around the Dayton area.

[vamp2syd]

Vamps... Scholastic Play-by-play website still has them listed as the night cap on January 10 playing Graham.

Here is the link:

http://www.scholasticpbpnetwork.com/classics.htm

That is interesting....the game was scheduled to be played @ Graham on the 13th, what is this event and where would the games be played???

I haven't heard anything about it......I would love for Graham and Wayne to play though....

[ohio12345]

ex warrior captain

I think Wayne will beat Fairmont, they are too good to lose that game. Also, you say that they will lose to Alter because Wayne doesn't handle disciplined teams. If this is so, then Graham should also beat Wayne, they are extremely disciplined, return everyone from last years team (minus 1 starter) and beat Alter last season in the tournament. But I do agree that Wayne cannot take them lightly because if they do Graham will put it to them. Graham is going to be a D-2 state contender. No matter what though, that will be a great game to watch.

[myspace1412]

That is interesting....the game was scheduled to be played @ Graham on the 13th, what is this event and where would the games be played???

I haven't heard anything about it......I would love for Graham and Wayne to play though....

according to highschoolsports.net the game is played at graham but i dont know how true that is that gym is small for a game like this

[hsfanOnRC]

That will be a good game. I just might go to that one! I'll give Graham the upper hand now. I've heard some coaches tell me that those kids up at Graham could start on any team in the surrounding counties! They are good and are well diciplined and get this Wayne, they play as a TEAM!! They very well could beat Wayne!

[myspace1412]

That will be a good game. I just might go to that one! I'll give Graham the upper hand now. I've heard some coaches tell me that those kids up at Graham could start on any team in the surrounding counties! They are good and are well diciplined and get this Wayne, they play as a TEAM!! They very well could beat Wayne!

ive seen this graham team a couple times and they are a good fundamental team. but honestly outside of schuler i dont see that many other kids starting at to many other schools but it should be a great game to watch i know ill be there

[HHW96]

That is interesting....the game was scheduled to be played @ Graham on the 13th, what is this event and where would the games be played???

I haven't heard anything about it......I would love for Graham and Wayne to play though....

It is at the Schottenstein Center. I just looked at Trotwood's schedule on the GWOC web site, and that lists the game location. No tickets info available on the Schott's web site, or the Play-by-Play web site yet.

[SAl005]

i think its funny trice has haters in huber and they did nothing but win this past season and lost to a good withrow team with one of the best big men in the state

It's safe to say that if Trice was at Wayne for the '08 classes freshman year they would have been much better. The defense and discipline that he brought to the program was great. He knows the hard work it takes and attention to detail that it takes to make a good team. Not comparing him to Jim Staleys success but both coaches start their seasons on the defensive end. Unlike Staleys strick controlled offense, Trices is more of a controlled caos.

[myspace1412]

It's safe to say that if Trice was at Wayne for the '08 classes freshman year they would have been much better. The defense and discipline that he brought to the program was great. He knows the hard work it takes and attention to detail that it takes to make a good team. Not comparing him to Jim Staleys success but both coaches start their seasons on the defensive end. Unlike Staleys strick controlled offense, Trices is more of a controlled caos.

idk if its caos i just think the game of basketball is changing and more teams are turning into run and gun teams ...and as far as staley he knows beats defense into these kids heads they never have the greatest athletes but they always compete. for examp the findlay prep game last year findlay prep had about a 10 times more talented to team then the elks but staley found ways to keep the game close and hung around all the way to the end

[myspace1412]

does anyone know of any scrimmages this weekend

[troyboy73]

Saturday November 15

Beavercreek at Carroll
Ft. Loramie and St. Marys at Sidney
Tecumseh at Xenia
Stivers at Troy
Greenville at Eaton
Wapakoneta at Crestview

All at 10:00 AM

[MrOfficial]

Springboro is having one at 10 tomorrow.

[jakethesnake11]

Centerville at aiken tomorrow

[HHW96]

Wayne is traveling to Toledo tomorrow... no word on who they will play...

The open intra-squad scrimmage was alright. It was basically a glorified practice.

[HoopHound]

Wayne is traveling to Toledo tomorrow... no word on who they will play......

Pretty long trek for a scrimmage, isn't it '96??? :shrug:

How long to get from HH up to Toledo in a school bus anyway? :confused:

[DPSluva]

Centerville at aiken tomorrow


i would love to get a full detailed report on this scrimmage, this is major league

[catpaw]

springfield @ gahanna lincoln 10:00 am

[HHW96]

Pretty long trek for a scrimmage, isn't it '96??? :shrug:

How long to get from HH up to Toledo in a school bus anyway? :confused:

Yeah! Coach Trice only said the players are leaving at 6 am. I have no details, but I would hope this would be a quad scrimmage, to get max use out of it.

It's 200 or so miles (could be as many as 225, depending where in Toledo), so that will take the better part of 4 hours would be my guess.

If you are confused... I can't even begin to put words to it!

[Falcon7]

agreed. even if wayne is missing the talent that graduated with the seniors, there's no way they lose to fairmont.
Fairmont also lost their best player Brad B. out for most likely the year with a shoulder problem, just like last year.

[SAl005]

Yeah! Coach Trice only said the players are leaving at 6 am. I have no details, but I would hope this would be a quad scrimmage, to get max use out of it.

It's 200 or so miles (could be as many as 225, depending where in Toledo), so that will take the better part of 4 hours would be my guess.

If you are confused... I can't even begin to put words to it!

We went to toledo last year, we played toledo libby, dunbar, trotwood, toledo schott, and a few other schools i cant remember them all, but the scrimmage has about 8 teams in it. and schott high school has like 4 courts in the school.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Saturday November 15

Beavercreek at Carroll
Ft. Loramie and St. Marys at Sidney
Tecumseh at Xenia
Stivers at Troy
Greenville at Eaton
Wapakoneta at Crestview

All at 10:00 AM

I'll be checking out the Sidney/Loramie/St. Marys scrimmage. Probably post some early thoughts, but won't really know too much after one or two scrimmages.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Sidney Scrimmage:

Each team played three 10 minute quarters against each other.

Sidney beat Ft. Loramie 34-26, and also St. Marys 32-29. Ft. Loramie won against St. Marys by 4.

Sloppy scrimmage overall, but that's to be expected this early.

[ohio12345]

How did Sidney look?

[nmont08balla]

What about Northmont? i havent heard anything said about how they are gonna look this year, i am away from home so i cant see many games or what they have for this years team. i know they have Steve Newell is the only one returning from last years team that got playing time

[southpaw69]

What about Northmont? i havent heard anything said about how they are gonna look this year, i am away from home so i cant see many games or what they have for this years team. i know they have Steve Newell is the only one returning from last years team that got playing time

Going to be a rough year for the bolts. They will have a tough time scoring IMO. They better play some really good Defense which I am confident they will. Turnovers and their lack of size will mean they will be playing a lot on the defensive end of the court. Their lack of size and depth will really hurt them in big games.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

How did Sidney look?

One of the biggest things I noticed was how they played Offensively. I think they shot maybe 2 or 3 three-pointers the whole scrimmage. I'm sure you know that Sidney is usually a "chuck em up" team, but they were actually trying to move the ball around and create something closer to the hoop. Now of course, Ft. Loramie & St. Marys do not have the height and size like most teams Sidney will play so that might of been a reason as to why they didn't shoot many three's because they didn't really need to.

Defensively, I was impressed with their "on-ball" defense. Mainly the guards who were very active. Justin Stewart was all over the court defensively and he will be one of the "energy" guys on that side of the floor.

Sidney's lineup will look something like 6'6" 6'5" 6'1" 6'0" 5'10" which is a little bigger overall than last year but still will be undersized in alot of match-ups. Last year they were able to sub out the entire starting 5 but this year they only have 2 or 3 guys who can produce off the bench.


Still early to really get a gauge of what they can do this season. I still think they can go 11-9 atleast but it won't really matter in the tourney especially if they get matched up with Centerville again. Speedy, Athletic teams will still pose major problems for the Yellow Jackets.

[nmont08balla]

im hoping that northmonts defense will be good like it has been the last couple of years with Parrish occupying the middle. i think the gonna have good guard play outta steve newell and quinton cooper, im jus worried about how their big men are gonna do, zach newsome and aaron montgomery are both about 6'5 and have long arms but i dont know if they will be able to produce on both sides of the ball. we'll see how they start off

[southpaw69]

who plays the three for northmont? Xavier Johnson? Ethan Zoellner is out with an injury for right now. I think Kevin Tolle starts over Aaron Montgomery and could play the three.

[ohio12345]

Yellow Jacket

I am surprised to hear that they didn't shoot many threes, very unusual for Sidney. And who is the player you listed that is 6'5? I know Taborn is the one who is 6'6.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Yellow Jacket

I am surprised to hear that they didn't shoot many threes, very unusual for Sidney. And who is the player you listed that is 6'5? I know Taborn is the one who is 6'6.

Sophomore Zach Yinger was listed as 6'3" last year, and he definitely looks like he's grown an inch or two. Might of been just my eyes but he looked taller than a year ago. I expect him to play much like his brother Brad but he probably won't shoot as many three's. Also have another Sophomore Daniel Ocke who is around the 6'4"-6'5" range.

I was just taking a guess on the lineup although things could change by the first game.

[nmont08balla]

ya i heard that kevin tolle is starting this year...so far. and i think xavior is starting along with steve newell, quintin cooper and zach newsome. well have to see how they are going to produce after what last years team did offensively and defensively.

[Cityluva]

Meadowdale took it to Sidney today winning 7 out 8 quarters without 2 of their starting forwards. Sidney has a couple of good shooters and will be some games this year. However, Meadowdale was much to much for the Yellow Jackets. Meadowdale is very solid and very well coached. Meadowdale really gets after it. I was impressed. Watch out for Meadowdale!

[HoopHound]

Meadowdale took it to Sidney today winning 7 out 8 quarters without 2 of their starting forwards. Sidney has a couple of good shooters and will be some games this year. However, Meadowdale was much to much for the Yellow Jackets. Meadowdale is very solid and very well coached. Meadowdale really gets after it. I was impressed. Watch out for Meadowdale!

Were there other schools at this scrimmage?

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Meadowdale took it to Sidney today winning 7 out 8 quarters without 2 of their starting forwards. Sidney has a couple of good shooters and will be some games this year. However, Meadowdale was much to much for the Yellow Jackets. Meadowdale is very solid and very well coached. Meadowdale really gets after it. I was impressed. Watch out for Meadowdale!

As I said earlier, Sidney has trouble with teams that are speedy and athletic. I'm sure Meadowdale fits that bill.

This was to be expected but It's only a scrimmage. I guess you could say the Jackets are 2-1 in Scrimmages so far.

Sidney travels to Indian Lake on Tuesday for a Scrimmage starting at 5:30 pm, and then wraps up the pre-season with a scrimmage at Home against Goshen at 11:00 AM on Saturday.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Were there other schools at this scrimmage?

I don't think so Hoop, Atleast not according to Sidney's schedule.

[southpaw69]

ya i heard that kevin tolle is starting this year...so far. and i think xavior is starting along with steve newell, quintin cooper and zach newsome. well have to see how they are going to produce after what last years team did offensively and defensively.

look for the freshman Solomom King-White to be a starter or at least be a major contributer by no later than mid season. Very good kid and player. I wish he had some more size because that is something the bolts are lacking. His skills will force the bolts to play even smaller because he will have to play with his ability. I doubt he will play much if any JV. Could be one of the best in the area in a few years if they can surround him with some more players. Very good student too from what I hear. Sees the floor well and very unselfish. From the looks of what Nmont has coming up he will need to be a little less unselfish in the years to come but this year will be very good for his development. IMO

[nmont08balla]

look for the freshman Solomom King-White to be a starter or at least be a major contributer by no later than mid season. Very good kid and player. I wish he had some more size because that is something the bolts are lacking. His skills will force the bolts to play even smaller because he will have to play with his ability. I doubt he will play much if any JV. Could be one of the best in the area in a few years if they can surround him with some more players. Very good student too from what I hear. Sees the floor well and very unselfish. From the looks of what Nmont has coming up he will need to be a little less unselfish in the years to come but this year will be very good for his development. IMO


ya i went and saw northmont scrimmage carrol on friday night and he did impress me along with other freshman Devon Carter. they both lack size but they have the skills to be a couple of the best guards in the GWOC in a couple years. about the scrimmage though they had some quarters where they looked really good and some where they looked really bad, they just got to put all the good quarters together and they could turn out prety good. Steve Newell, Kevin Tolle and Zach Newsome look to be doin really well as they did most of the scoring.

[southpaw69]

Did Carroll have any size? I am anxious to see how they play against some size and muscle?

[nmont08balla]

Did Carroll have any size? I am anxious to see how they play against some size and muscle?

no it was a normal carrol team...small and all they did was shoot the 3 ball. they did have one player who was maybe 6'4 that could jump out of the buildin and had 2 alley oop dunks, but northmont has a scrimmage tuesday at milton union at 8PM and friday they scrimmage miamisburghat 1030 AM and later that night they have their premier night at home vs tri county north so well see if they have any size and how they look.

[bballfan1990]

no it was a normal carrol team...small and all they did was shoot the 3 ball. they did have one player who was maybe 6'4 that could jump out of the buildin and had 2 alley oop dunks, but northmont has a scrimmage tuesday at milton union at 8PM and friday they scrimmage miamisburghat 1030 AM and later that night they have their premier night at home vs tri county north so well see if they have any size and how they look.

hahaha this is a good indicator for you bolt fans... this is ALMOST as bad as your schedule... are you kidding me? and you wonder why you get embarrassed in the tournament year after year

[southpaw69]

hahaha this is a good indicator for you bolt fans... this is ALMOST as bad as your schedule... are you kidding me? and you wonder why you get embarrassed in the tournament year after year

I have to agree with you there. What are they going to see in any of those scrimmages that will come anywhere close to what they will see in conference play? That will be a rude awakening when the season starts. Who do they play as far as their out of conference games? Not outside of just the central but the entire GWOC. I doubt that their will be anything comparable as far as size, strength and depth. How is this going to prepare them? Hopefully a little confidence builder is the only thing that I can guess.......but they didn't really put it to Carroll from what I have heard.

[myspace1412]

I have to agree with you there. What are they going to see in any of those scrimmages that will come anywhere close to what they will see in conference play? That will be a rude awakening when the season starts. Who do they play as far as their out of conference games? Not outside of just the central but the entire GWOC. I doubt that their will be anything comparable as far as size, strength and depth. How is this going to prepare them? Hopefully a little confidence builder is the only thing that I can guess.......but they didn't really put it to Carroll from what I have heard.

confidence builders :shrug: :shrug:

[southpaw69]

confidence builders :shrug: :shrug:

You would think N'mont could build confidence against TCN, Carroll and Milton. That is the only thing that I think they can really get out of playing those teams in the preseason........of course you have to win/dominate those teams in order to build confidence IMO.

[86CAT]

idk if its caos i just think the game of basketball is changing and more teams are turning into run and gun teams ...and as far as staley he knows beats defense into these kids heads they never have the greatest athletes but they always compete. for examp the findlay prep game last year findlay prep had about a 10 times more talented to team then the elks but staley found ways to keep the game close and hung around all the way to the end

I don,t think Staley teaches good basketball defense, it looks more like good football defense. He should have been considered for the Elks DC in fotball last year. I'm not trying to make jokes but that's just the way it is.:shrug:

[bballfan1990]

I don,t think Staley teaches good basketball defense, it looks more like good football defense. He should have been considered for the Elks DC in fotball last year. I'm not trying to make jokes but that's just the way it is.:shrug:

are you that dumb

[HoopHound]

are you that dumb

Play nice please.

[other1]

I don,t think Staley teaches good basketball defense, it looks more like good football defense. He should have been considered for the Elks DC in fotball last year. I'm not trying to make jokes but that's just the way it is.:shrug:

Actually, Centerville plays great defense, regularly holding their opponents to an average of around 40 points a game. Good defense is just as much a part of basketball as a good offense. If you don't play defense (basketball, not football), you don't play at Centerville. Period. Staley is a great teacher of defense. Get used to it. There's more coming this year.

[86CAT]

are you that dumb

WOW!!!! I didn't mean to upset you to the point where you had to stay up half of the night to come up with such an intelligent response. But that just shows how much the TRUTH HURTS, my fault.:rolleyes:

[bballfan1990]

centerville basketball plays the best defense in southwest ohio year in and year out

[other1]

WOW!!!! I didn't mean to upset you to the point where you had to stay up half of the night to come up with such an intelligent response. But that just shows how much the TRUTH HURTS, my fault.:rolleyes:

Exactly what TRUTH are you talking about? Centerville DOES play excellent defense and it is LEGAL defense, that has nothing to do with football. I really don't get where you're coming from. You seem to know nothing about Centerville basketball...

[86CAT]

Exactly what TRUTH are you talking about? Centerville DOES play excellent defense and it is LEGAL defense, that has nothing to do with football. I really don't get where you're coming from. You seem to know nothing about Centerville basketball...

Evidently, neither do you. :rolleyes:

[other1]

Evidently, neither do you. :rolleyes:

That's your clever response? What "evidence" is that? Centerville gives up on average 40 points a game, wins 19 games a year on average, goes deep into the tournament every year and that's what you come up with? Your repsonses are child-like. How old are you? Please give it some effort on the next one, okay?

[HoopHound]

Let's play nice folks.

[Elks48]

Centerville swept CJ in the Skyline Chili Preview last night.

[Yellow_Jacket06]

Sidney 107

Goshen 83


Sidney took five of six 8 minute quarters.

It was 70-46 after 4 Quarters.

[hsfanOnRC]

centerville basketball plays the best defense in southwest ohio year in and year out

Hopefully Springfield will be one of the best this year. Defense wins games and they will need all the defense they can muster!
Go Cats!

[myspace1412]

I don,t think Staley teaches good basketball defense, it looks more like good football defense. He should have been considered for the Elks DC in fotball last year. I'm not trying to make jokes but that's just the way it is.:shrug:

i think centerville survives off a defense there offense isnt that great imo....look at the scores they rarely ever score a lot of points but it works for the most part

[hsfanOnRC]

i think centerville survives off a defense there offense isnt that great imo....look at the scores they rarely ever score a lot of points but it works for the most part

From what I saw in the tourney last year, I agree. I don't know if it's becasue they have a big guy and you expect more on the offense side of the ball or what. :shrug:

[Elks48]

Centerville vs. Graham should be a good one on Friday, doesn't count though.

[HoopHound]

Centerville vs. Graham should be a good one on Friday, doesn't count though.

:confused: Foundation game? :shrug:

If so... why the heck did they wait so long to have it???? :blush:

[Green1476]

Centerville will win the Gwoc hands down after watching them play in the summer league at Fairmont no one can handle them for four quarters.They blew Wayne off the court twice with their A team the Centerville B team was supposed to play the second game but Centerville put their A squad back on the court making sure Wayne will not have any confidence coming into the games during the season showdowns.Another team that impress me during the summer was Fairmont I think they will be second in the GWOC this year.I like Wayne but they will struggle this year they are young but the future looks bright.Don't count Beavercreek out they beat Wayne in the Summer league and played everyone tough.Northmont is well coach but coach Brown is still playing with the line up they will be competitive but will be the underdogs in most of the GWOC games.

[myspace1412]

Centerville will win the Gwoc hands down after watching them play in the summer league at Fairmont no one can handle them for four quarters.They blew Wayne off the court twice with their A team the Centerville B team was supposed to play the second game but Centerville put their A squad back on the court making sure Wayne will not have any confidence coming into the games during the season showdowns.Another team that impress me during the summer was Fairmont I think they will be second in the GWOC this year.I like Wayne but they will struggle this year they are young but the future looks bright.Don't count Beavercreek out they beat Wayne in the Summer league and played everyone tough.Northmont is well coach but coach Brown is still playing with the line up they will be competitive but will be the underdogs in most of the GWOC games.

dont get so caught up over what happend during the summer leagues most of the time teams dont even run offenses and the head coach isnt even there. wayne will be just fine this year and will battle it out for a conference title with centerville. so far wayne has played good in there scrimmages and they been playing a lot of top notch opponents. i do think it is the elks title to lose this year but they will have to beat the warriors hopefully kavanaugh can stay out of foul trouble unlike the first game last season

[hsfanOnRC]

^I think he is a little overrated, at least from what I saw last year in the tourney. He didn't have that arua, or waht ever you call it like Yancy Gates did. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here. But I guess when you see that big man on the court, you expect alot of things from him and have higher expectations. I look for Wayne to take the league, but I haven't seen anyone play yet. I'll let you all know when I do. LOL!

[myspace1412]

^I think he is a little overrated, at least from what I saw last year in the tourney. He didn't have that arua, or waht ever you call it like Yancy Gates did. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here. But I guess when you see that big man on the court, you expect alot of things from him and have higher expectations. I look for Wayne to take the league, but I haven't seen anyone play yet. I'll let you all know when I do. LOL!

i thought the same thing the first time i seen him which was the first wayne game.but then i seen him play 2 more times once against nationally ranked findlay prep and the game they lost in the tourney and he didnt dissapoint either game especially against findlay prep.

[hsfanOnRC]

Thanks myspace. Maybe I watched him on a bad night.

[southpaw69]

wasn't he injured? Or was that the year before? He was on crutches for an ankle injury in the first round I do believe and then was able to play the next week at much less than 100%.

[Elks48]

:confused: Foundation game? :shrug:

If so... why the heck did they wait so long to have it???? :blush:

Yeah, its a foundation game. Not sure why they are having it so late.

[hsfanOnRC]

From what I was told, you can have a "foundation game" any time during the regular season.

[HoopHound]

From what I was told, you can have a "foundation game" any time during the regular season.

I know for a fact that you are correct, 'RC.

I just think it makes MUCH more sense to have these before the season starts. Once the season begins, I think a foundation game becomes a distraction more than a "help", IMHO. :shrug:

[celks116]

[QUOTE=hsfanOnRC;3437294]^I think he is a little overrated, at least from what I saw last year in the tourney.[QUOTE]

IMO, Kavanaugh is a very good player, but he isn't dominant. I'm waiting to see what he does this year though to see if my opinion is correct.

[Falcon7]

Centerville will win the Gwoc hands down after watching them play in the summer league at Fairmont no one can handle them for four quarters.They blew Wayne off the court twice with their A team the Centerville B team was supposed to play the second game but Centerville put their A squad back on the court making sure Wayne will not have any confidence coming into the games during the season showdowns.Another team that impress me during the summer was Fairmont I think they will be second in the GWOC this year.I like Wayne but they will struggle this year they are young but the future looks bright.Don't count Beavercreek out they beat Wayne in the Summer league and played everyone tough.Northmont is well coach but coach Brown is still playing with the line up they will be competitive but will be the underdogs in most of the GWOC games. Fairmont Good? I heard the best player and 2 other good players have already quit!

[hsfanOnRC]

I know for a fact that you are correct, 'RC.

I just think it makes MUCH more sense to have these before the season starts. Once the season begins, I think a foundation game becomes a distraction more than a "help", IMHO. :shrug:

If it's against a tougher opponent, I really can't see it being a distraction. But I'm no expert. Especially if it's close to tournament time and you want to fine tune some things. That way you can "hand pick" your opponent. Say if you have some "fast" teams in your district, you'd want to play a "fast" team. You can replace "fast" with "tall" "Shooting team", etc.

[ohio12345]

Dayton Daily News
Greater Western Ohio Conference

5 players to watch

Matt Kavanaugh, Centerville High School, 6-foot-9 sr.: A difference-maker in the post, the University of Dayton recruit averaged 20.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 2.8 assists and even 1.2 steals.

Aaron Robinson, Trotwood-Madison, 6-2 sr.: The future Findlay player averaged 3.2 assists to go with 11.9 points. Leads a talented Rams team.

Mark Shadowens, Fairmont, 6-3 jr.: A scorer, he averaged 12.5 points while shooting 48.8 percent from the field and 80.3 at the line.

Zack Burks, Springfield, 6-3 sr.: The football quarterback can get it done on the court as well, as evidenced by his 11.6 points per game average last season.

Bryce Hathaway, Lebanon, 6-1 sr.: The Warriors leading returning scorer, Hathaway' usual game was 9.8 points, 2.7 rebounds and 2.6 assists.


Others to watch

Lamar Mallory, Wayne, 6-7 sr.

Adam Replogle, Centerville, 6-4 sr.

Josh McClain, Northmont, 6-3 soph.

Markus Crider, Wayne, 6-6 soph.

Kyle Windmiller, Fairborn, 6-3 sr.

Bryce Drew, Springboro, 6-1 sr.

Lamar Taborn, Sidney, 6-6 sr.

David Dudgeon, Xenia, 6-6 sr.

Dan Wilson, Piqua, sr., 6-3 sr.

A.J. Pacher, Vandalia Butler, 6-8 jr.

D.J. Martinez, Troy, 6-6 jr.

Josh Topp, Sidney, 5-10 sr.

Logan Rucker, Fairmont, 6-2 sr.


5 things to know

Centerville and T-M won't play, unless it is in the Division I tournament. The Elks are the heavy favorites to be the area's best D-I team.

Wayne lost eight seniors from last season, but coach Travis Trice has a group of younger guys raring for more playing time.

Springboro doesn't have Austin McMahan on its roster, last season's second-leading scorer.

Football injuries took a toll on Beavercreek, which will be without Brad Sundstrom, among others.

The Northmont coaching staff is high on freshman Solomon King White, a 5-8 guard.