Summit County...

[ballerbaby72]

Summit County 08-09 season... Who will be the top teams? I think St. V will be a team to watch...

[hs sports fan]

Teams to watch (in no particular order):

St. Vincent-St. Mary
Buchtel
CVCA
Copley
Barberton
Hudson
Twinsburg

[StarstoShine]

STVM 2008-2009

Jacob Baker 6-9 265 Jr.
BJ Brophy 6-8 Sr.
Daylon Harrison 6-7 Sr.
Admir Bektic 6-7 215 Sr.
Jakaar Sampson 6-7 Soph
Oliver Hiltebrandt 6-5 Soph
Jack Uecker 6-4 Jr.
Ben Bertsch 6-3 Sr.
Michael Hammond 6-2 Sr.
Aaron Carey 6-2 Soph
Kris Taylor 6-1 Soph
Devonte Beard 6-0 Soph
Dominique Mitchell 5-11 Soph
Carrington Glenn 5-11 Jr.
Ricky Johnson 5-9 Soph
Kameron Rubin 5-9 Jr.

Pretty Deep Roster....could make a run well into the Tournament.

[thehasbeen95]

Well the team that sticks out to me is St. V. you also have to take a strong look at Buchtel as well.

[magics89]

The Barberton - Buchtel game should be pretty interesting this year.

[ballerbaby72]

who does buchtel have?... did they graduate their leading scorers last year that were ineligible towards the end of the season?...

[ballerbaby72]

and barberton will be strong with north...

[Ktown]

shhhhhhh.....kenmore.......I know you won't agree but kenmore will win the city this year and they play St V in January. I saw them this summer and this is a deep talented group. They beat Hudson, Orrville, Mckinley, Mentor, Glenoak, Nordonia, Tuslaw and Green often by more than 15 points this summer. They have more speed than any team they have had the last few years and the City Player of the Year might be on this team. I know that I am a homer but man this is gonna be a fun team to watch.

Other team not mentioned who I think should be good is Tallmadge.

[hs sports fan]

shhhhhhh.....kenmore.......I know you won't agree but kenmore will win the city this year and they play St V in January. I saw them this summer and this is a deep talented group. They beat Hudson, Orrville, Mckinley, Mentor, Glenoak, Nordonia, Tuslaw and Green often by more than 15 points this summer. They have more speed than any team they have had the last few years and the City Player of the Year might be on this team. I know that I am a homer but man this is gonna be a fun team to watch.

Other team not mentioned who I think should be good is Tallmadge.

I was not disrespecting Kenmore when I left them off my list. I just am not sure who will step up for them this year to help Smith and Hearn. I did not see them this summer. I could see them winning the City. I think it depends a lot on who is on the court for Buchtel at the end of the year.

Tallmadge probably has the best big man combo in the county, but their guards are extremely inexperienced. Karnuth's coaching could hold them back IMO.

[hs sports fan]

who does buchtel have?... did they graduate their leading scorers last year that were ineligible towards the end of the season?...

Tiondre Johnson is a senior this year. Steve Hargrove (2nd Teamm All-City) is also back. Other contributors could be Da'Jon Lewis, Don Wilcher, Chevin Meadows, T.J. Dent, Antonio Lovelace, and Dainan Lewis.

[Ktown]

None taken. I'm not sure they are tops either but I think the potential is there. I agree it probably depends on who Buchtel has left after jan. grade cards. Any other teams from th city going to do some damage. East had a good JV last year with good size. Firestone should be down. Ellet is Ellet and garfield is garfield. North lost alot from last year.

[kzr0]

I agree hs sports fan Tallmadge has some good big men. Mays is good but Householder is the much better ball player. He is not one dimensional as he can play an outside game or inside. St V is loaded and will be good. Of course Harrison and Carey would have looked good in purple and white. As for Buchtel don't know much about them but I will in December when they square off with Barberton. Hoban still has one of the best big men in area with Slack and should be OK. As for the Magics, they once again will be led by North, however I believe the key to the Magics will be the continual growth of Garrick Simms in the post. This kid could have a monster year along with a very talented senior class of Duncan, Giovinnini, Cambell, Hummel and Browning. The team that will surprise alot of people is Hudson. They have talented underclassmen. Also never over look Stow. Coaching is too good.

[BuckNut2006]

I agree hs sports fan Tallmadge has some good big men. Mays is good but Householder is the much better ball player. He is not one dimensional as he can play an outside game or inside. St V is loaded and will be good. Of course Harrison and Carey would have looked good in purple and white. As for Buchtel don't know much about them but I will in December when they square off with Barberton. Hoban still has one of the best big men in area with Slack and should be OK. As for the Magics, they once again will be led by North, however I believe the key to the Magics will be the continual growth of Garrick Simms in the post. This kid could have a monster year along with a very talented senior class of Duncan, Giovinnini, Cambell, Hummel and Browning. The team that will surprise alot of people is Hudson. They have talented underclassmen. Also never over look Stow. Coaching is too good.

Hoban could be a sleeper. Slack and Barnes returning seniors who rule under the basket. They have managed to recruit a stud freshman, Greg McMullen who will be all-world. He is so strong, he has been moved up to varsity football team. Hoban may have a problem with someone taking over for Boddie

[BDevil41]

I agree hs sports fan Tallmadge has some good big men. Mays is good but Householder is the much better ball player. He is not one dimensional as he can play an outside game or inside. St V is loaded and will be good. Of course Harrison and Carey would have looked good in purple and white. As for Buchtel don't know much about them but I will in December when they square off with Barberton. Hoban still has one of the best big men in area with Slack and should be OK. As for the Magics, they once again will be led by North, however I believe the key to the Magics will be the continual growth of Garrick Simms in the post. This kid could have a monster year along with a very talented senior class of Duncan, Giovinnini, Cambell, Hummel and Browning. The team that will surprise alot of people is Hudson. They have talented underclassmen. Also never over look Stow. Coaching is too good.

thanks for the motivation ;)

[BuckNut2006]

Tiondre Johnson is a senior this year. Steve Hargrove (2nd Teamm All-City) is also back. Other contributors could be Da'Jon Lewis, Don Wilcher, Chevin Meadows, T.J. Dent, Antonio Lovelace, and Dainan Lewis.

Tiondre Johnson could emerge as one of the best players in the area. Could even start for STVM ! But he needs to get his act together in the classroom and ask himself..."do I REALLY want to play basketball?"

[yellowandblue]

Teams to watch (in no particular order):

St. Vincent-St. Mary
Buchtel
CVCA
Copley
Barberton
Hudson
Twinsburg

Fan from what I saw this summer your list would almost mirror mine except I would flip Barberton and Copley.

[Bucky]

Greg McMullen is big, sure; but hasn't reached that level under the basket that is needed. He won't help Hoben much. STVM has a strong bench, and even more hopeful is their underclassmen that are showing strong skills. The future is very hopeful.

[kzr0]

Bdevil the coment was not a put down to you as a player. I said Mays is a good big man and I mean it. What You didn't understand was Householder is not JUST a post player and is harder to defend as he can score inside and out. If you took it wrong then I am sorry as I would never put down or rag on a kid. If I didn't think you was good I wouldn't have said you was.

[BDevil41]

Bdevil the coment was not a put down to you as a player. I said Mays is a good big man and I mean it. What You didn't understand was Householder is not JUST a post player and is harder to defend as he can score inside and out. If you took it wrong then I am sorry as I would never put down or rag on a kid. If I didn't think you was good I wouldn't have said you was.

I did not take it as a put down. I agree with your point about House being more versatile offensively. The post just gives me incentive to work harder, that’s all.

[aauplayer]

St. V's clearly has the best rooster in Summit and will be an excellent team because they have talent and will be well coached.
I think Hudson could surprise a lot of people as the looked good this summer when I had the opportunity to watch them.
The City League should be wide open as always until the rooster settle down.

Tallamedge should a team to watch as the had Bennie's beat last year in the tourney is they could make any easy shots.

[thehasbeen95]

Tallamedge should a team to watch as the had Bennie's beat last year in the tourney is they could make any easy shots.

I agree with the St.V choice and hudson looks like an improved team as well.

Also It was a great game on both ends for tallmadge and Benedictine it was extremely close 41-44. But i will say this..I'm lookin for Householder and the other tall kid to really do some damage this season in the suburban league. there just might be a rematch in Stow.

[HoopHound]

St. V's clearly has the best rooster in Summit...

Oh yea?? How many hens does he "service" per day?


...The City League should be wide open as always until the rooster settle down.....

Has he been seen over at the St. V's hen house?

Some roosters have NO loyalty. :Ohno:






(sorry aau... you made that just WAY too easy.) :blush: :D

[3out2in]

Oh yea?? How many hens does he "service" per day?




Has he been seen over at the St. V's hen house?

Some roosters have NO loyalty. :Ohno:






(sorry aau... you made that just WAY too easy.) :blush: :D

Look, if we're talking roosters, Barberton has to be at the top of the list in Summit County. Best chicken anywhere. And they are deep too with Belgrade, Hopokan and Milich's.
Winner, winner chicken dinner!

[hs sports fan]

STVM 2008-2009

Jacob Baker 6-9 265 Jr.
BJ Brophy 6-8 Sr.
Daylon Harrison 6-7 Sr.
Admir Bektic 6-7 215 Sr.
Jakaar Sampson 6-7 Soph
Oliver Hiltebrandt 6-5 Soph
Jack Uecker 6-4 Jr.
Ben Bertsch 6-3 Sr.
Michael Hammond 6-2 Sr.
Aaron Carey 6-2 Soph
Kris Taylor 6-1 Soph
Devonte Beard 6-0 Soph
Dominique Mitchell 5-11 Soph
Carrington Glenn 5-11 Jr.
Ricky Johnson 5-9 Soph
Kameron Rubin 5-9 Jr.

Pretty Deep Roster....could make a run well into the Tournament.

When did Sampson transfer in? I saw him play with Solon at the Akroin Shootout this summer.

[HoopHound]

Look, if we're talking roosters, Barberton has to be at the top of the list in Summit County. Best chicken anywhere. And they are deep too with Belgrade, Hopokan and Milich's.
Winner, winner chicken dinner!

:)

[Ktown]

Look, if we're talking roosters, Barberton has to be at the top of the list in Summit County. Best chicken anywhere. And they are deep too with Belgrade, Hopokan and Milich's.
Winner, winner chicken dinner!


I always laugh at the chicken reference for Barberton. Isn't Belgrades located in Coventry? and Hopocans is in Norton? I believe The only chicken house in Barberton is White House Chicken--home of the chicken backs and city chicken. As you could say they are a one chicken town.

[frecriss]

I always laugh at the chicken reference for Barberton. Isn't Belgrades located in Coventry? and Hopocans is in Norton? I believe The only chicken house in Barberton is White House Chicken--home of the chicken backs and city chicken. As you could say they are a one chicken town.

Hopocan and Milichi's are in Norton, White House is in Barberton. As for Belgrades, alot of people say it is in Coventry. However, I sure did pay city income taxes to Barberton when I worked there:shrug:

But.........................All of them, as well as the long closed Terrace Gardens, were founded by Barberton people.

[thehasbeen95]

When did Sampson transfer in? I saw him play with Solon at the Akroin Shootout this summer.

I think before school started

[hs sports fan]

Tiondre Johnson is a senior this year. Steve Hargrove (2nd Teamm All-City) is also back. Other contributors could be Da'Jon Lewis, Don Wilcher, Chevin Meadows, T.J. Dent, Antonio Lovelace, and Dainan Lewis.

I just heard Wilcher is at Firestone. Can anybody confirm this?

[BuckNut2006]

I think before school started

Sampson? How good is he and will he make an impact on a STVM team that is already loaded with talent?

[hs sports fan]

Sampson? How good is he and will he make an impact on a STVM team that is already loaded with talent?

He averaged about 3 points for Solon last year.

[BuckNut2006]

He averaged about 3 points for Solon last year.

He is willing to part with his friends and fellow teamates, drive 40 minutes one way, spend another $50/week on gas, & try and play for the Fighting Irish, based on THREE points a game? :shrug:

[StarstoShine]

Sampson moved to Akron

[SeeYaSometime]

Sampson moved to Akron


If you build it, they will come!

[Henry37]

Ya, they've built an AAU program that happens to play high school teams from Dec-Feb.

And minus King James, it hasn't quite worked out.

[Bucky]

Maybe Sampson is just actually looking to go to a better educational facility or surrounding. Maybe his parents actually want MORE for him than whatever he has now. If public school systems cared as much for their students, there wouldn't be this issue.

[hs sports fan]

Maybe Sampson is just actually looking to go to a better educational facility or surrounding. Maybe his parents actually want MORE for him than whatever he has now. If public school systems cared as much for their students, there wouldn't be this issue.

C'mon, you're not fooling anybody. The decision had NOTHING to do with academics and EVERYTHING to do with athletics.

[fromhs2thepros]

Are you saying Solon might have questionable academics? :wallbang: :wallbang: :wallbang: :wallbang:

[thehasbeen95]

Are you saying Solon might have questionable academics? :wallbang: :wallbang: :wallbang: :wallbang:

Actually Solon School system is rated as one of the Tops in the State. So whatever the decision it was not determined solely by a talented 15yr old by himself. I do believe he has a very nice Mom and if there are any problems as to why her son is at SVSM then you all need to take it up with her. this is not a knock on you fromhs2thepro just a general statement.

[hs sports fan]

Actually Solon School system is rated as one of the Tops in the State. So whatever the decision it was not determined solely by a talented 15yr old by himself. I do believe he has a very nice Mom and if there are any problems as to why her son is at SVSM then you all need to take it up with her. this is not a knock on you fromhs2thepro just a general statement.

I don't have a problem the decision to transfer to SVSM. It's a free country and his family has the right to choose to do that. What I do have a problem with is people trying to act like it had nothing to do with athletics when it clearly did. SVSM may be a fine school, but it is known for athletics, not academics.

[HoopHound]

I don't have a problem the decision to transfer to SVSM. It's a free country and his family has the right to choose to do that. What I do have a problem with is people trying to act like it had nothing to do with athletics when it clearly did. SVSM may be a fine school, but it is known for athletics, not academics.

On the surface at least... it certainly seems like that to me as well, hssf. :shrug:

[napoleon_complex]

I don't have a problem the decision to transfer to SVSM. It's a free country and his family has the right to choose to do that. What I do have a problem with is people trying to act like it had nothing to do with athletics when it clearly did. SVSM may be a fine school, but it is known for athletics, not academics.

When's the last time you toured SVSM's academic facilities?

I will say this, SVSM can be very appealing because they send their kids to college, they get their kids scholarships, and their students are prepared for college(senior year classes are meant to mimic collegiate classes).

Just because YOU don't know SVSM for academics doesn't make it a fact.

[hs sports fan]

When's the last time you toured SVSM's academic facilities?

I will say this, SVSM can be very appealing because they send their kids to college, they get their kids scholarships, and their students are prepared for college(senior year classes are meant to mimic collegiate classes).

Just because YOU don't know SVSM for academics doesn't make it a fact.

What you said about SVSM can be said about plenty of other schools in the area as well. So what has made all of these student-athletes (especially basketball players) decide to transfer there over the past decade? One word: athletics. There's also been a few student-athletes that did not play much that transferred out of SVSM. Nobody came on here saying that they transferred out because of academics, so don't try to say that they are transferring in because of academics. You're not fooling anybody (except maybe yourself).

[napoleon_complex]

What you said about SVSM can be said about plenty of other schools in the area as well. So what has made all of these student-athletes (especially basketball players) decide to transfer there over the past decade? One word: athletics. There's also been a few student-athletes that did not play much that transferred out of SVSM. Nobody came on here saying that they transferred out because of academics, so don't try to say that they are transferring in because of academics. You're not fooling anybody (except maybe yourself).

I wasn't saying he transferring in for academics, just rebuking your claim about SVSM not being known for academics, when it's just that YOU don't know them for academics.

[BuckNut2006]

Fact: STVM, Walsh and Hoban, etc have exemplarary academic programs.

Fact: These schools tend to have very good sports team

Dark Fact: Yes, there are kids who transfer-in, or who go there ONLY for sports.

Fact: If these athlete's grades suffer, they WILL be ineligible. Then it is the parent's call..is it worth keeping their child at the school...considering the sacrifices a parent makes.

Fact: Suburban public school systems have made great strides in the past 20 years, both academically and athletically.

Fact: Discipline at the privates...still better than the publics.

[Shorty]

Another fact: many 2nd and 3rd generation StV grads are sending their kids to the other private schools or public schools in the area because the academics and atmosphere at StV has degraded over the last decade.

StV is walking that fine line right now of becoming an athletic factory at the expense of their academic reputation. Some have even mentioned that sending their kids to StV is a step down in academics but they prefer the religious teachings from the school. Solon is at the very least equal to or better than StV academically. StV has become an inner-city private school. It just can't measure up to the better private schools in the state and is in a bitter battle with the suburban public schools for academic rankings.

[Bucky]

This is simply ridiculous. The green eyed monsters rise again. Whomever left STVM because "their academics are lowering" is just looking for a "whiter" school. Their academics are as good as any other private school. They just take in more ethnic groups. Go to any STVM vs. HOBAN, STVM vs. WALSH, and look around. It's quite obvious that STVM is the only one in the Akron area that is trying to integrate their system for the benefit of the kids. At the STVM vs. HOBAN game, I looked over to the other side and realized how bad it was, and how grateful I was that STVM is not like that. I bet HOBAN AND WALSH don't carry more than their "required" qty of ethnic groups. Last year Walsh had ONE "black" kid on the mens basketball team. AND he was VERY lightskinned. Nothing against the kid and his skin color, but very obvious to an onlooker. STVM had the highest SAT scores in the area. Some of you obviously are going off of disgruntled parents/students, and not off of actual numbers. If you want to see what "public" schools match any Catholic education, simply go to your state education web page and look it up. It's also always posted in the paper at certain times of the year. Some of you obviously aren't reading the papers. Why are people so upset that parents are willing to pay for a better opportunity for their kids. Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you can sit back and say incorrect things. Get your information right! By the way, College Prep Classes start your freshman year if you qualify acedemically. There aren't any "vocational" classes at this school. Good luck getting your kids out of your house with "shop" and "home econ." and "beauty school"!!!!

[hs sports fan]

I wasn't saying he transferring in for academics, just rebuking your claim about SVSM not being known for academics, when it's just that YOU don't know them for academics.

I should have said they are known more for athletics than academics.

[Henry37]

If you think there's a concerted effort by St. V to take in more ethnic groups...or an effort by Walsh and Hoban to take in fewer...you are absolutely kidding.

There's an effort by St. V to take in more AAU basketball players, and I don't think the census counts that as an ethnic group.

Corey Jones lived 70 miles away, he was white, but he was an AAU kid.

The Johnson brothers, 45 miles away, they are black, but they are AAU basketball players.

Look at the roster that star's to s'hine list's on here all the time. All the kids are 6-5 to 6-9 and all come from Dru's AAU program or LeBron's AAU program. Ethnic group doesn't matter...their parents' delusions do.

Even with all that talent they haven't won a title since LeBron-Romeo-Dru and won't win one the next two years either.

[napoleon_complex]

Another fact: many 2nd and 3rd generation StV grads are sending their kids to the other private schools or public schools in the area because the academics and atmosphere at StV has degraded over the last decade.

StV is walking that fine line right now of becoming an athletic factory at the expense of their academic reputation. Some have even mentioned that sending their kids to StV is a step down in academics but they prefer the religious teachings from the school. Solon is at the very least equal to or better than StV academically. StV has become an inner-city private school. It just can't measure up to the better private schools in the state and is in a bitter battle with the suburban public schools for academic rankings.

Would you care to PM me some family names?

[BuckNut2006]

Another fact: many 2nd and 3rd generation StV grads are sending their kids to the other private schools or public schools in the area because the academics and atmosphere at StV has degraded over the last decade.

StV is walking that fine line right now of becoming an athletic factory at the expense of their academic reputation. Some have even mentioned that sending their kids to StV is a step down in academics but they prefer the religious teachings from the school. Solon is at the very least equal to or better than StV academically. StV has become an inner-city private school. It just can't measure up to the better private schools in the state and is in a bitter battle with the suburban public schools for academic rankings.

There is nothing to support your claim...nothing. Inner-city private also includes Hoban, St I?

[BuckNut2006]

This is simply ridiculous. The green eyed monsters rise again. Whomever left STVM because "their academics are lowering" is just looking for a "whiter" school. Their academics are as good as any other private school. They just take in more ethnic groups. Go to any STVM vs. HOBAN, STVM vs. WALSH, and look around. It's quite obvious that STVM is the only one in the Akron area that is trying to integrate their system for the benefit of the kids. At the STVM vs. HOBAN game, I looked over to the other side and realized how bad it was, and how grateful I was that STVM is not like that. I bet HOBAN AND WALSH don't carry more than their "required" qty of ethnic groups. Last year Walsh had ONE "black" kid on the mens basketball team. AND he was VERY lightskinned. Nothing against the kid and his skin color, but very obvious to an onlooker. STVM had the highest SAT scores in the area. Some of you obviously are going off of disgruntled parents/students, and not off of actual numbers. If you want to see what "public" schools match any Catholic education, simply go to your state education web page and look it up. It's also always posted in the paper at certain times of the year. Some of you obviously aren't reading the papers. Why are people so upset that parents are willing to pay for a better opportunity for their kids. Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you can sit back and say incorrect things. Get your information right! By the way, College Prep Classes start your freshman year if you qualify acedemically. There aren't any "vocational" classes at this school. Good luck getting your kids out of your house with "shop" and "home econ." and "beauty school"!!!!

The overall racial ratio at Hoban and STVM is very close. Outsiders see a STVM basketball team that is primarily made up of AA's and assume the student body racial make-up is similar. If anyone paged thru the STVM program, one would see primarily white sports teams. Go to www.STVM.com.

Aside from the basketball team, STVM's and Hoban's regular student body is just about the same. Walsh's is the lowest @ 8-9% minority.

[BuckNut2006]

If you think there's a concerted effort by St. V to take in more ethnic groups...or an effort by Walsh and Hoban to take in fewer...you are absolutely kidding.

There's an effort by St. V to take in more AAU basketball players, and I don't think the census counts that as an ethnic group.

Corey Jones lived 70 miles away, he was white, but he was an AAU kid.

The Johnson brothers, 45 miles away, they are black, but they are AAU basketball players.

Look at the roster that star's to s'hine list's on here all the time. All the kids are 6-5 to 6-9 and all come from Dru's AAU program or LeBron's AAU program. Ethnic group doesn't matter...their parents' delusions do.

Even with all that talent they haven't won a title since LeBron-Romeo-Dru and won't win one the next two years either.

Yes, STVM's basketball team is rostered with primarily black players.

No, STVM's student body is similar in racial make-up. It is primarily made-up of students from middle to upper class families...as is the other privates in Summit County.

[HoopHound]

Hmmmm.... AAU Hoops seems to be right in the middle of this discussion. :eek: :eek: :eek:

BTW... I want to commend EVERYONE that has taken part in this thread. Everyone has discussed this in a civil yet passionate manner with their expressed personal opinions. It's a stickety subject that everyone has handled well... without going off the deep end.

Well done... keep it up!!! :thumb:

[Bucky]

I'm sorry, I didn't know that upper/middle class was the same as ethnic groups. :wallbang: Ethnic doesn't mean race either.
Once again, people see what they want; not what it is. STVM doesn't have to recruit players; players go to them for their own reasons. Some of which are athletics, but I believe most would consist of the combination of athletics and acedemics. If you could afford to send your kids to a school that will help them maybe go farther in life, wouldn't you? I would. I've met people, sent all their kids to STVM, they came out VERY prepared for COLLEGE. Their kids graduated from prestigeous colleges with high honors. Yeah, I think I would do whatever it takes to get my kid in the best situation possible. If you want to call that "STVM recruiting", somebody better tell Mr. Joyce. I don't think he knows about that. But, then again, if you would rather believe that he actually goes out recruiting, feel free.:rainbow:

[fromhs2thepros]

I am not sure if you understood what I said but how can anyone say Solon is not good for academics. Solong, StV, Hoban, Walsh are all good. In fact, most suburban high schools are. Some just think they are better. As for kids going to Stv vs any other school?? Are you serious, if you can play, its a simple choice over other schools. But if you want to make sure you are going to play, you better think twice because you stay at a Solon and be just as good and play maybe sooner.

[Bucky]

Well, anyone of the private school kids (basketball, football, or otherwise) could "start" on their public school varsity team. This is understood. If you are just looking for your kids name in the paper because you are scared of "competition", stay at the public school. They can get all the recognitiont they want, and no scolarships to decent colleges..... Or if you "know" your kids won't have a chance of play time at STVM, just change your choice and take them where the competition isn't as great. Your choice in the end. But, I say, DON'T RUN FROM THE COMPETION! GO FOR IT BOOOOYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ktown]

If you could afford to send your kids to a school that will help them maybe go farther in life, wouldn't you? I would. I've met people, sent all their kids to STVM, they came out VERY prepared for COLLEGE. Their kids graduated from prestigeous colleges with high honors. Yeah, I think I would do whatever it takes to get my kid in the best situation possible.

I also know kids that graduated from Stv-m that committed suicide, sit in jail for dealing drugs or murder, cheated on their wives and families, abused their kids, dropped out of college and some even went into employment after High School without college but attended "vocational colleges" that are offered for the 88% of america that does NOT have a college degree. The school does not make the kid. The parents and familiies emphisis on education make the kid successful. College doesn't gaurantee success--- ask Bill Gates who dropped out after a short time. Some VERY successful people have come from both private and public schools. Lets not act like the holy rollers are always smelling like roses and the public school kids are all "Vocational" souvants.

[Bucky]

OK, so now you are just talking shear numbers. That's a statement that can be said about every school in America. I like it when people make blanket, outrageous statements to make a point. It's real simple. Some people do everything they can possibly do to give their kids the best that they can. I'm not speaking monetarily here. Just theoretically. Best education they can, the best world knowledge they can, best eating habits, health habits, etc. No one is saying they are perfect. There are, of course, parents who do take their kids for "athletics only". But, my guess is that many take them for a combination of both athletics and academics. No one is saying that a certain school is producing "angels" or "perfect" kids. No child will ever be perfect. Period. But, as parents, doing what you feel is best for your child should take precedence over anything else. There are way too many parents who are more concerned with their own lives out there. There isn't enough involvement in childrens lives and welfare. I say get involved, be involved!:thumb:

[hs sports fan]

I've met people, sent all their kids to STVM, they came out VERY prepared for COLLEGE. Their kids graduated from prestigeous colleges with high honors.

That's a statement that can be said about every school in America. I like it when people make blanket, outrageous statements to make a point.

:shrug:

[kent16]

Mogadore isn't a top team in summit county but they will be improved with shwartz the head coach this year

[baller4ever]

I know he didn't have much at Norton at all. I know it's a little easier to win at M'dore. Norton was stuck in a TOUGH district.