Walnut Hills Transfers

[hurt77]

Evan Yates- F/C 6'5 senior from princeton
Darrien Wilkins- F 6'4 junior from princeton
Taylor Wellman- G 6'2 senior from norwood (not official yet)

along with thes transfers does anyone know who else they have this year

[oxat622]

Where did you hear this?

[Past My Prime]

Somewhere eezy is trying to kill himself

[hurt77]

My sources, but Taylor's not coming... but there are more transfers going to walnut

[MoeDude]

Somewhere eezy is trying to kill himself:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Meibers must be on vacation. :laugh: :laugh:

[Eezy as 123]

Somewhere eezy is trying to kill himself

:laugh:

This shows that I know what I'm talking about, though. Lockland never gets Princeton's quality players. For those of you Lockland/transfer bashers. :cool:

[Eezy as 123]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Meibers must be on vacation. :laugh: :laugh:

:laugh: :Ohno:

[Past My Prime]

:laugh:

This shows that I know what I'm talking about, though. Lockland never gets Princeton's quality players. For those of you Lockland/transfer bashers. :cool:

Im jk but these arent Princeton's quality players. They dressed varsity but played JV last year. Evan was a junior on JV. Darrien played JV as a fresh and a soph.

[oxat622]

Darrien and Evan are good players. They were clearly Princeton's two best JV players last year. Darrien was probably going to see a lot of minutes off the bench on varsity this year. Evan was probably going to see some spot minutes off the bench since there aren't a lot of true big men on Princeton's squad.

[voice_of_reason]

Are these guys coming for sure, or is this more Yappi wishful thinking, and what does Walnut already have, will all three come in and start?
What is Walnunts schedule compared to Lockland?

[Past My Prime]

Darrien will most likely be Walnut Hills best player if he is going and Evan would start as well. The head coach of Walnut is Evan's AAU coach. Walnut has a few solid players and with these 2-3 additions they will definitely be a contender for the division title.

Walnut Hills schedule is much than Locklands due to the fact that Lockland is a small school and is stuck playing other small schools for most of the season in their conference.

[Eezy as 123]

The head coach of Walnut is Evan's AAU coach.

OOOooo...I see.

Walnut Hills schedule is much than Locklands due to the fact that Lockland is a small school and is stuck playing other small schools for most of the season in their conference.

Wait until you all see next year's schedule. :eek: :banana:

[voice_of_reason]

I think the new Walnut coach should be careful, bringing in AAU players his first season may not look good to many of their long time supporters. All I can say is that he better win. Walnut has always been an academic school, and the only attention they want is from academic achievements.

[Clark W Griswold]

exactly....soon the "dominant" 8th grade`crew will transfer to all other CPS schools and again leave walnut hanging

[tucker]

how can these kids transfer into walnut hills, don't they have to pass a test to get into walnut and also move into the cincinnati public district?

[Eagle Eyes]

Coach Moman, with consent from principal Brokamp, is bringing in 2 to 4 new players at Walnut. Problem 1: these kids are not any better than whats already there. Only one new player has varsity experience and his team was 0-20. The coach of that team was hired by Moman to be his no. one man. Problem 2: some of the new transfers played AAU ball for Moman whose team did'nt even place in the losers bracket in their national tournament this summer in Fla. Problem 3: Already hearing rumblings from some parents AND players about these current events. Theres more to come.... Stay tuned boys and girls !!!!!

[voice_of_reason]

When I wrote my last post, I did not know anything about the players or parents. I just knew when you try to do things like this too fast it raises eyebrows.

And to those of you looking to become high school head coaches, remember all jobs aren't good jobs. But from someones post above it is good he has the support of his principal.

[hardwork08]

it sounds like a good problem for walnut, where players USUALLY leave for for other schools. like there "very good " 8th grade team. from what i know about coach moman he is fair. if players work hard they play:stirthepot: ohh well good luck to the eagles.

[cincyfan15]

Be careful about stating a coach is bringing kids over. Just because a student decides to transfer schools does not always mean it was initiated by the coach. I think it is interesting that a school who lost athletes in previous years is seeing such a quick burst of interest from students. And these are not all driven by the coach. A school like Walnut Hills will always have academic success, but success in extra curricular activities such as sports is just as crucial to developing poised and well rounded students prepared to excel at the next level. It is refreshing to see that a more balanced focus is being brought to such an academically strong Cincinnati school. :eek:

[Eezy as 123]

Coach Moman, with consent from principal Brokamp, is bringing in 2 to 4 new players at Walnut. Problem 1: these kids are not any better than whats already there. Only one new player has varsity experience and his team was 0-20. The coach of that team was hired by Moman to be his no. one man. Problem 2: some of the new transfers played AAU ball for Moman whose team did'nt even place in the losers bracket in their national tournament this summer in Fla. Problem 3: Already hearing rumblings from some parents AND players about these current events. Theres more to come.... Stay tuned boys and girls !!!!!

Why would Walnut Hills be a place to transfer anyways? I can see for the education, but these kids are transferring for basketball. Basketball at WALNUT HILLS? :laugh: C'mon kids/parents, you can do better than that. :laugh:

[HoopHound]

Why would Walnut Hills be a place to transfer anyways? I can see for the education, but these kids are transferring for basketball. Basketball at WALNUT HILLS? :laugh: C'mon kids/parents, you can do better than that. :laugh:

Building a good program has to start somewhere, Eez. :shrug:

[Eagle Eyes]

This years team will be young but very talented. There are only a few seniors with limited varsity experience but the jrs and sophs are loaded. Bringing in new seniors with average ability just to play one season takes valuable playing time away from the group that could put Walnut on the map 2 and 3 years from now !

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

This years team will be young but very talented. There are only a few seniors with limited varsity experience but the jrs and sophs are loaded. Bringing in new seniors with average ability just to play one season takes valuable playing time away from the group that could put Walnut on the map 2 and 3 years from now !

One question: did the transfers TAKE and PASS the Walnut Hills test?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Why would Walnut Hills be a place to transfer anyways? I can see for the education, but these kids are transferring for basketball. Basketball at WALNUT HILLS? :laugh: C'mon kids/parents, you can do better than that. :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: I'm betting you have severe cases of "So-Called-Athletes-Foot-in-MOUTH" outbreaks from time to time, Eezy.

[HoopHound]

One question: did the transfers TAKE and PASS the Walnut Hills test?

Help me out with this, BB4...

Unless I've been mistaken for many years, isn't Walnut Hills a public school?

If so, they have some type of entrance exam??? :confused:

Educate the ol' hounddog on this if you would. A Public with an entrance exam????

What am I missing here????

What IS the "Walnut Hills Test" everyone is referring to?????

[Clark W Griswold]

Walnut Hills is a somewhat "advanced" school in CPS...terrific test scores, many AP courses, etc....
you need to take an entrance test to get in...ala St X
still free though

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Help me out with this, BB4...

Unless I've been mistaken for many years, isn't Walnut Hills a public school?

If so, they have some type of entrance exam??? :confused:

Educate the ol' hounddog on this if you would. A Public with an entrance exam????

What am I missing here????

What IS the "Walnut Hills Test" everyone is referring to?????

Walnut Hills is a 7th-12th grade Cincinnati Public Middle/H.S. which is STRICTLY a College Preparatory program with a storied academic history. http://www.walnuthillseagles.com/

In order to gain entrance to the school in the middle school, upon SIXTH GRADE--the student must pass an entry exam. There are other exams given after the 6th grade in the 8th, 9th and 10th grades, as far as I know.

BTW---Walnut is my future Ivy League/5th grade son's self-expressed school of choice. Gotta love that. :thumb:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Walnut Hills is a somewhat "advanced" school in CPS...terrific test scores, many AP courses, etc....
you need to take an entrance test to get in...ala St X
still free though

All due respect, C.G., but Walnut is FAR from "somewhat advanced." :rolleyes:

[MoeDude]

...BTW---Walnut is my future Ivy League/5th grade son's self-expressed school of choice. Gotta love that. :thumb:
That is until he shadows at The Summit and falls in love with the home of "The Silver Knights!" ;)

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

That is until he shadows at The Summit and falls in love with the home of "The Silver Knights!" ;)

Not that he's being "recruited" or anything....;) :laugh: :laugh:

And yes...SCD is on his short list of "strong desirables", as well. :) Gotta say, MD....he DEFINITELY isn't a GCL fan. Something about those Withrow-Moeller hoop games left a baaaad taste in his mouth. :angel: :stirthepot: ;) :laugh: In fact---"G-C-L" rolls off his tongue with an overt hint of disdain...:laugh: (J/K)

[HoopHound]

Walnut Hills is a 7th-12th grade Cincinnati Public Middle/H.S. which is STRICTLY a College Preparatory program with a storied academic history. http://www.walnuthillseagles.com/

In order to gain entrance to the school in the middle school, upon SIXTH GRADE--the student must pass an entry exam. There are other exams given after the 6th grade in the 8th, 9th and 10th grades, as far as I know.

BTW---Walnut is my future Ivy League/5th grade son's self-expressed school of choice. Gotta love that. :thumb:

So if a student (who actually lives in the WH district) fails the 6th grade test... they're shipped out to another school?

What about a current WH student who passed the 6th grade test, was admitted, then later fails one of the ensuing tests? Are they sent away as well?

I know that my post sounds like I'm being a smart-arse... but I don't mean to be. I'm just having problems getting my brain around a publicly-funded school allowed to be so academically "selective" via testing. :shrug:

I think if I resided in that district, paid the taxes for it's operation, and my child would be prevented from attending because of a test score, I'd be pretty angry. :blush:

Am I not "getting" this whole thing, BB4???

Sorry to be such a question-box. :blush:

[GCLHoops]

So if a student (who actually lives in the WH district) fails the 6th grade test... they're shipped out to another school?

What about a current WH student who passed the 6th grade test, was admitted, then later fails one of the ensuing tests? Are they sent away as well?

I know that my post sounds like I'm being a smart-arse... but I don't mean to be. I'm just having problems getting my brain around a publicly-funded school allowed to be so academically "selective" via testing. :shrug:

I think if I resided in that district, paid the taxes for it's operation, and my child would be prevented from attending because of a test score, I'd be pretty angry. :blush:

Am I not "getting" this whole thing, BB4???

Sorry to be such a question-box. :blush:



Walnut Hills is not a district... it is a school within the Cincinnati Public Schools. Kids in Cincinnati Public have open enrollment, and can go to any high school they want. To go to Walnut Hills they must pass an admissions test.

[withrownatiboy]

Walnut isn't limited to a neighborhood. All 6th graders take the test citywide and those who pass get to go. Other CPS schools have entrance exams as well.

[Chop Stix]

Walnut isn't limited to a neighborhood. All 6th graders take the test citywide and those who pass get to go. Other CPS schools have entrance exams as well.

Correct. In order to pass Withrow's entrance exam you have to run under a 4.6 40, score at least 30 inches on your vertical jump or bench press 225 10 times.

[FFIndiansBBall]

I've also heard of other players from Princeton who might transfer. Not to mention names but it's some of the seniors, talking about going to my FF indians, L west and walnut hills

[HoopHound]

Thanks, folks. I guess I was kinda visualizing it as a traditional school covering a specific geographic area within the CPS district. I now understand what you're describing!!

Answer this... if a student lives in the furthest area from Walnut Hills, but still within the CPS, how is transportation arranged? I'd think you'd have school buses zig-zagging around the city getting these kids picked up and delivered. :shrug:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Correct. In order to pass Withrow's entrance exam you have to run under a 4.6 40, score at least 30 inches on your vertical jump or bench press 225 10 times.

Hating is REALLY not good for the soul, Chop Suey. Maybe you should pray and seek counsel for that which ails you....:cool:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Thanks, folks. I guess I was kinda visualizing it as a traditional school covering a specific geographic area within the CPS district. I now understand what you're describing!!

Answer this... if a student lives in the furthest area from Walnut Hills, but still within the CPS, how is transportation arranged? I'd think you'd have school buses zig-zagging around the city getting these kids picked up and delivered. :shrug:

Bus transportation to and from school is provided by the Metro Bus system via school routes, HH. For those students involved in extra-curricular activities, transportation needs to arranged by the parent and that's for all schools in the CPS district.

[withrownatiboy]

Also Walnut and Withrow are within walkin distance of each other. There was a point to me sayin that, but i'm far too sleepy to remember it at this point

[Eagle Eyes]

These transfers are coming to Walnut because of their affiliation with the new coaches and the fact that as average players they would see limited playing time at their previous school. This ain't yo granddaddys Walnut....there is talent under the dome in the jr and soph class. Hopefully these moves won't ruin whats growing there.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

These transfers are coming to Walnut because of their affiliation with the new coaches and the fact that as average players they would see limited playing time at their previous school. This ain't yo granddaddys Walnut....there is talent under the dome in the jr and soph class. Hopefully these moves won't ruin whats growing there.

EE---who are the Jr. High and Freshman coaches? New guys coming in with the new coach or did they keep the previous coaches?

[Eagle Eyes]

BigBallin..... Moman has not had much success in filling those positions including the 7th and 8th grade coaches. No official annoucements have been made. FYI, the top player at Walnut, Alex Mcglothin, is a sophmore this year. Started varsity as a freshman and was leading the team in scoring until he got hurt and missed the second half of the season. If he stays healthy and at Walnut, he'll be a horse they can ride for three years. Saw him play for the first time a couple of years ago at Dater and was really impressed. Went to see his teammate Chane Behanon....

[PlayersCoach98]

These transfers are coming to Walnut because of their affiliation with the new coaches and the fact that as average players they would see limited playing time at their previous school. This ain't yo granddaddys Walnut....there is talent under the dome in the jr and soph class. Hopefully these moves won't ruin whats growing there.

I am not sure that Evan and Darrian are average players? Orlando told me that Evan would have been a starter for Princeton this year. Darrien was in a tough spot there and I can't blame him for wanting to play varsity. He played behind Marquis Horn, who has one of the most complete skill sets in the city. Let's face it, Walnut is a very average team. Bringing in these 2 players is only going to help their younger players develop. A lot of their kids don't want to put in the time. Now you have a coach with a great basketball mind who want to get the players involved. He gets 2 kids who are used to playing in the GMC and know the level of commitment it takes. Everyone knows about the class they having coming in to Walnut. Those kids don't want to come to a school that goes 6-15 every year. Evan and Darrien give Walnut a chance to win every night. Look for a big turn around this year.

[Past My Prime]

Evan would NOT have been a starter for Princeton. Sorry.

With that said he and Wilkins will help Walnut out a ton. I see either Wilkins or Alex being Walnut's leading scorer/best player. Evan will start for Walnut and they will compete for the division title. The only team who should give thme problems is Wilmington.

[FFIndiansBBall]

Has anyone else heard about any of the other princeton players transferring?

[Eagle Eyes]

PlayersCoach98....I am totally convinced you have no clue. I spoke with 3 coaches and they all said the same. These are not impact players although they felt there was upside potential for Darien Wilkens. What "experince" do they bring to the varsity at Walnut ? They were both JV players and Evan Yates is a SENIOR this year. GMC jv ball can not compare to FAVC varsity. I am not downing these kids but rather the coach for not doing his homework. As i stated previously, Walnut will be young this year but have all the pieces in place.They will be competitive this year and gain VALUABLE experience for the next two years after. Bringing in more jv non-impact players slows the process. Hopefully they can stay eligible...this ain't the GMC or AAU.

[voice_of_reason]

Did any of the teams from the FAVC play teams from the GMC? When Mason and Milford swapped conferences how did each team fare in their new conference.

[gonefishing]

lol.....milford kicked EVERYBODYS butt in the FAVC, and mason was the whipping boy of the GMC.

[cincyfan15]

I think by experience they mean showing up for open gyms, conditioning, going hard at practice. The kids from Princeton may not have played varsity, but they go up against some very strong players every time they play in open gym, tryouts....they see where they need to work to get. This work ethic is what Walnut needs. That is the experience that is so valuable.....also kids need to learn how to win and how to expect to win. Previous experience at Walnut at this level has not given the program that level of expectation. Kids think they show up when basketball season comes around and they will play. You cannot have a successful program in this day and age just showing up. That is the experience I am thinking the previous poster is talking about. And remember...just because kids transfer does not mean the coach brought them over. This would be a great opportunity for kids that can play but have tough competition in front of them in their current program. At the end of the day, if kids show up, work hard and prove themselves I think based on what previous posters have said Coach Moman will develop all players.....that is what building a program is all about.

[Eagle Eyes]

CincyFan....Great, these new players will bring open gym experience to Walnut. That should do the the trick. I'll check with the FAVC to see if there is an open gym league this year. And you ask about Walnut knowing how to win? Last year the jv were 16-4, as freshman they were 17-3. Last year the freshman tied for the conference and won the championship as eigth graders. Last year the 8th had a winning record and the 7th graders were undefeated! I'm just saying the talent and commitment is already there to be successful. If the new coach did not encourage these players to Walnut, why do you think they are transferring?

[WallyHill2002]

This is exactly the opposite of what Walnut needs. As an alumni myself I can say with much certainty there is more talent roaming the halls at Walnut that are not involved in athletics than the majority of any transfer the new coach could bring in.

That was always the most infuriating thing at Walnut was the amount of talent that was too ashamed to go out and try and help an Eagles team. The preception that all our atheltics were garbage kept a lot of talented kids from trying and, IMO, has led to the near dissapearance of the football team.

I don't know how you do it and if transfers can help start a trend of Walnut keeping its athletes (as long as they pass) and getting them out onto the field and changing the climate in the hallways that Walnut Hills athletics are not a joke.

The funny thing is the students didn't even pay attention when I was there. We were 6-3 in football my junior year and a lot of kids just assumed we were the opposite. It was not until news trucks started showing up the week of the West Hi game (winner got into playoffs, first time for cps school outside of Cape) that most realized we were not completely terrible.

I hope it gets better because that school does have the potential to be an "co-ed St.X". High accademics, high performing arts, high athletic performance. It just needs the right direction.

[voice_of_reason]

You two both make some interesting points, I would say there is definite value in having players show up for open gym, even if the coach just opens up the gym and looks in through the doorway, he can evaluate players strengths and weaknesses.

Also the growth of younger players is paramount for a young program.
Hopefully, the coach will have mentors in the coaching faternity to help in building the program. Eagle I am not sure if you are a parent of some of the younger players, but it would be good for the coach to meet and tell of his plans beyond the current year. That may ease some of the anxiety.

I first met him a few years ago, he truly is a nice guy and I think he will be a good coach for the team/program.

[chosen one]

Walnut Hills has been ranked by Newsweek as the 38th best high school in the nation. Walnut Hills graduates go on to the best colleges in the country. The economic, relegious, and racial diversity that Walnut has can not be found at any other area high school. Products of Walnut include Mary Wineberg olympic track star and Rachel Horn Jeopardy teen champion. The boys JV team played Oak Hills and won last season. Led by Brandon Howard with 23 points. The open gym attendance has been scarce this summer. With new coaching the players may think expectations are low. I know for a fact the last five years most players showed up at open gyms three times a week at Walnut during the summer. They ran four or five miles twice a week with additional conditioning. This is the worst shape physically I have seen the players in five years. If this continues they will need a very deep bench with a lot of fresh legs.

[Past My Prime]

PlayersCoach98....I am totally convinced you have no clue. I spoke with 3 coaches and they all said the same. These are not impact players although they felt there was upside potential for Darien Wilkens. What "experince" do they bring to the varsity at Walnut ? They were both JV players and Evan Yates is a SENIOR this year. GMC jv ball can not compare to FAVC varsity. I am not downing these kids but rather the coach for not doing his homework. As i stated previously, Walnut will be young this year but have all the pieces in place.They will be competitive this year and gain VALUABLE experience for the next two years after. Bringing in more jv non-impact players slows the process. Hopefully they can stay eligible...this ain't the GMC or AAU.

LOL lets be realistic.. Actually Princeton JV ball does compare to FAVC CARDINAL ball. Their JV team would have destroyed Walnuts Varsity, JV or anyone else you want to put at Walnut. They would start for any team in that division, which is probably why they are going there. They will be the best two players there. I would go as far to say that Princeton's JV would have finished in the top three of the FAVC cardinal. That division is that bad.

Voice of reason made a great point. Milford came into the FAVC's TOP division and did really well. They would have been probably 5 or 6th in the GMC. Mason was one of the top teams in the FAVC and now are looked at as very average. There is a huge difference between between the two conferences.

Adding these two players actually WILL bring experience to this team. If anything they can be leaders to the younger kids prepare them on how to be successful. They know what it takes to win and what you need to do in the offseason to be a successful player. These two have been playing against some of the best players in the CITY the past two-three years. 6-7 players on Princeton's roster are getting looks for colleges. Thats more than Walnut has had in the past 10 years.

[Eagle Eyes]

Past Prime...PLEASE in your infinite wisdom tell me why are these kids leaving such a GMC powerhouse to come to little ol' Walnut. Are they on a mission to spread their open gym wisdom to the less fortunate? Will they be player coaches? How much more success do the younger kids need? Do you know what they have done in the past? More importantly, will the transfers still be eligible by winter?

[hardwork08]

the funny thing is evan took the test and passed his freshman year and choose to go to princeton (prob because walnut sports was not anygood)
and darrien WENT TO WALNUT his freshman year. (prob left for the same reason as evan). the summer schedule both evan and darrien have been playing (every summer)is TOUGH. i think this was the FIRST YEAR for A LOT of walnut players that put in their own free time to play AAU. alex is the only player that worksout basketball wise. walnut should be okay.....as long as coach moman can get the team to buy in.

[HoopHound]

This is exactly the opposite of what Walnut needs. As an alumni myself I can say with much certainty there is more talent roaming the halls at Walnut that are not involved in athletics than the majority of any transfer the new coach could bring in.

That was always the most infuriating thing at Walnut was the amount of talent that was too ashamed to go out and try and help an Eagles team. The preception that all our atheltics were garbage kept a lot of talented kids from trying and, IMO, has led to the near dissapearance of the football team.

I don't know how you do it and if transfers can help start a trend of Walnut keeping its athletes (as long as they pass) and getting them out onto the field and changing the climate in the hallways that Walnut Hills athletics are not a joke.

The funny thing is the students didn't even pay attention when I was there. We were 6-3 in football my junior year and a lot of kids just assumed we were the opposite. It was not until news trucks started showing up the week of the West Hi game (winner got into playoffs, first time for cps school outside of Cape) that most realized we were not completely terrible.

I hope it gets better because that school does have the potential to be an "co-ed St.X". High accademics, high performing arts, high athletic performance. It just needs the right direction.

Very interesting observations, Wally.

I'm wondering how much support the administration gives the sports programs at WH? I mean REAL support... not just lip service.

I'm familiar with a school in the NEO area (I won't mention which) that had much of the same problems in the 1990's that stretched into the early part of THIS century. Excellent academics and a sports program that was frankly VERY disappointing. Bad coaches and poor participation.

Their problem was the principal. A great guy who had the highest academic concerns for the kids. The problem? He didn't particularly care for sports and didn't understand them. His feeling was that it was impossible to have high academic school standards and have good sports teams at the same time.

I talked with him a number of times about the stuation. Even pointed out examples across-the-state of schools that did both VERY well. The "deer in the headlights" expression he gave me told me he had NO CLUE about how to do such a thing. :wallbang:

Luckily (for the sports programs) this gentleman retired after many years of fine academic service. I'm convinced that he had zero understanding of the value of a successful athletic department up to the very last day of his career.

Slowly but surely, the new administration has weeded out the poor coaching, and really has gotten behind the school's teams... Coaches are held accountable for their actions and performances. The positive results of these changes plus FULL & GENUINE support have shown in the gym and on the gridiron.

I'm wondering if WH is in a similar predicament. :shrug:

[Past My Prime]

Past Prime...PLEASE in your infinite wisdom tell me why are these kids leaving such a GMC powerhouse to come to little ol' Walnut. Are they on a mission to spread their open gym wisdom to the less fortunate? Will they be player coaches? How much more success do the younger kids need? Do you know what they have done in the past? More importantly, will the transfers still be eligible by winter?

Its really not that hard to understand. They could go to Princeton and come off the bench or they could play at Walnut and have the whole offense go through them.

They saw what it did for Keith Cox and Eric Armstrong last year. Eric and Keith wouldn't have played or done nearly as much as they did if they would have stayed at Princeton. Now both of them have earned division 2 scholarships. The same could happen for Evan and Darrien.

Yes I know what they have done in the past, its no different than what Walnut's younger kids have done except they do it against much better people. Yes they will be eligible by the winter. It sounds like you don't want these guys here. They are only going to help that team.

[calltheobvious]

HH Walnut Hills got a new principal last year, Jeff Brokamp and from what I know of him he is determined to make Walnut Hills a leader in sports and keep the highest academic standards. He hired a new football coach who inturn brought in a very good overall staff. Coach Moman was an assistant on last years staff but has a lot of AAU ties. With WH being a school anyone in Cincinnati can go to if they pass the test (must pay tuition if outside the CPS) he can draw from anywhere. The new principal is determined to have his atheletics match the academics at Walnut Hills. May take some time but if anyone has every met Jeff Brokamp I would not bet agienst him.

[voice_of_reason]

Walnut just got the new football field, are they going to get a new gym? At least some better lights! I was there a couple of summers ago and the lighting is terrible!

[cincyfan15]

CincyFan....Great, these new players will bring open gym experience to Walnut. That should do the the trick. I'll check with the FAVC to see if there is an open gym league this year. And you ask about Walnut knowing how to win? Last year the jv were 16-4, as freshman they were 17-3. Last year the freshman tied for the conference and won the championship as eigth graders. Last year the 8th had a winning record and the 7th graders were undefeated! I'm just saying the talent and commitment is already there to be successful. If the new coach did not encourage these players to Walnut, why do you think they are transferring?


All I am saying is the level of play is directly affected by what the players put into it in open gyms, weights, track. Showing up has been a problem for a lot of these players. Winning at the JV and Freshman level that is nice.....having a program that is consistently at the top at all levels is a whole new level of knowing how to win. Looks to me like you are not even giving the new coach a shot. Change is good when you have the previous records Walnut has had. Plus, this is a great lesson for these kids once they move on into college or their professional careers. You think college coaches aren't going to bring in new talent every year just because they have players that can play now? New talent and more depth means you put pressure on players that are there. They can do two things: 1. Complain about it and be a negative drain on the program or 2. Take the challenge on, get better and still win their spot in the starting lineup. If I were a player at Walnut, I would be excited to have a new coach and the fact that players are actually coming to Walnut to play basketball? That is exciting enough in itself....because as I player I know the better my program is, the better I am going to be. AND the more exposure I will receive if I want to be seen.

Keep in mind, development does not only happen in games, practice is where the real work is done. The players that show up in practice and can transfer it to the games will play, regardless of who they played for last season.

[Eagle Eyes]

CincyFan.....well said my friend. BUT (and there always is a but), lets for discussion apply what you said to the players leaving Princeton for Walnut. Were they 1) complaining about their playing time and being a negative drain on the program or 2) not willing to take the challenge and work harder against "better" players to improve their own game ? Is this the lesson you are talking about....if you don't get your way just leave ? I hope not. Look, I am not naive enuf to think this does'nt happen all the time but who benefits/suffers the most? Believe me , I have nothing against the kids, just the process. These kids did not come to Walnut on their own. As a graduate I can tell you Walnut Hills is special not only locally but nationally. No need to sell your soul for a couple of extra w's...leave that to St X, Moeller,etc.

[HoopHound]

HH Walnut Hills got a new principal last year, Jeff Brokamp and from what I know of him he is determined to make Walnut Hills a leader in sports and keep the highest academic standards. He hired a new football coach who inturn brought in a very good overall staff. Coach Moman was an assistant on last years staff but has a lot of AAU ties. With WH being a school anyone in Cincinnati can go to if they pass the test (must pay tuition if outside the CPS) he can draw from anywhere. The new principal is determined to have his atheletics match the academics at Walnut Hills. May take some time but if anyone has every met Jeff Brokamp I would not bet agienst him.

Thanks for taking the time to share that info, CTO.

Sounds like things at WH are on the right track. A principal that truly cares about quality academics AND sports!! :cool:

Good luck to Mr. Brokamp and his athletic department staff. I wish them success!!! :)

[voice_of_reason]

With Walnut being in school for a few weeks, do we know if all three actually came to the school?

Also to all the Walnut fans I hear you guys won a football game!

[Eagle Eyes]

Voice....There are 3 that enrolled that I know of for sure. The two from Princeton and one from Lakota West. Might be a fourth but not the kid from Norwood.

[Eagle Eyes]

Update....there are five transfers at Walnut to play bball. It's a mini Shining Star team :wallbang:

[FFIndiansBBall]

names?

[defrow89]

As you all sit here and talk about all of the transfers that are in or are coming in and you discuss Alex, who is a good player; I really see that you haven't really looked in depth at Walnut Hills Team or it's roster. Shawn Melton should have and could have easily contributed on the varsity level last year and will be the leader on the floor this year. I have followed Shawn for the past three years and no personally that this kid is D-1 material. Maybe because you have not paid attention to players that are on the radar and you do not follow the AAU circuit as much, you don't know alot about Shawn. I guarantee that this year, by the time the season is 5 games in, there will be alot of talk on yappi surounding Shawn Melton. Remember, you heard it hear first.:stirthepot:

[Past My Prime]

Melton is a great kid and could be a good high school player but he is not going to play division 1 basketball in college. Who does he play AAU for now??

[Eagle Eyes]

Melton is a great kid and could be a good high school player but he is not going to play division 1 basketball in college. Who does he play AAU for now??

Past.....I agree. He tends to forget the team concept at times and is a bit inconsistant but is a great kid and plays hard. I know he played with Club Ohio two years ago. May have been with Shining Star this past summer....not sure.

[voice_of_reason]

With all the talk at Walnut, It appears to be plenty of people with knowledge of their program. What do you think their record will be and with all the new talent who will start for them, finally how many returning varsity players do they have.

[HoopHound]

With all the talk at Walnut, It appears to be plenty of people with knowledge of their program. What do you think their record will be and with all the new talent who will start for them, finally how many returning varsity players do they have.

Here is their roster from last season (grade levels updated)...

Walnut Hills
Returning starters... *C Miles Bankston 6'5 Sr., *PF Alex McGlocklin 6'4 So.

Other varsity returnees... PF Benson Browne 6'5 So., C Ben Heiser 6'6 Sr.

Graduated starters... *PG Brad White 6'1 , *PG Zach Sigler 6'0, *SF Dylan Kremer 6'4

Other grads... PG Kenny Campbell 5'11, PG Lae-Kwam Dukes 5'9, SG Max Fisher 6'0, SG Eric Jones 6'1, SG Tyshaun Lindsey 6'0, SF Anthony Howard 6'3, SF Justin Junker 6'3

If this roster (that was submitted to me late last season) is accurate as far as the grade levels... this coach oughtta be shot. There is no good reason on God's green earth for a coach to have TEN seniors on his varsity roster. :wallbang:

All that does is make the program vulnerable the year after they graduate. I also wonder about a varsity roster with two frosh and ZERO sophies last year.

It's no wonder they're getting transfers... they NEED 'em to field a team. :Ohno:

[tucker]

did all of the new transfers pass the test? if not, how did they get in?

[ohscout]

Here is their roster from last season (grade levels updated)...

Walnut Hills
Returning starters... *C Miles Bankston 6'5 Sr., *PF Alex McGlocklin 6'4 So.

Other varsity returnees... PF Benson Browne 6'5 So., C Ben Heiser 6'6 Sr.

Graduated starters... *PG Brad White 6'1 , *PG Zach Sigler 6'0, *SF Dylan Kremer 6'4

Other grads... PG Kenny Campbell 5'11, PG Lae-Kwam Dukes 5'9, SG Max Fisher 6'0, SG Eric Jones 6'1, SG Tyshaun Lindsey 6'0, SF Anthony Howard 6'3, SF Justin Junker 6'3

If this roster (that was submitted to me late last season) is accurate as far as the grade levels... this coach oughtta be shot. There is no good reason on God's green earth for a coach to have TEN seniors on his varsity roster. :wallbang:

All that does is make the program vulnerable the year after they graduate. I also wonder about a varsity roster with two frosh and ZERO sophies last year.

It's no wonder they're getting transfers... they NEED 'em to field a team. :Ohno:

There is a new coach at Walnut this year. The previous coach kept way more seniors than he should have out of loyalty. Walnut should only have a handful of seniors on this years team. There is talent at every grade level at the school. Walnut should have a run of several good years in a row.

[hurt77]

Here is their roster from last season (grade levels updated)...

Walnut Hills
Returning starters... *C Miles Bankston 6'5 Sr., *PF Alex McGlocklin 6'4 So.

Other varsity returnees... PF Benson Browne 6'5 So., C Ben Heiser 6'6 Sr.

Graduated starters... *PG Brad White 6'1 , *PG Zach Sigler 6'0, *SF Dylan Kremer 6'4

Other grads... PG Kenny Campbell 5'11, PG Lae-Kwam Dukes 5'9, SG Max Fisher 6'0, SG Eric Jones 6'1, SG Tyshaun Lindsey 6'0, SF Anthony Howard 6'3, SF Justin Junker 6'3

If this roster (that was submitted to me late last season) is accurate as far as the grade levels... this coach oughtta be shot. There is no good reason on God's green earth for a coach to have TEN seniors on his varsity roster. :wallbang:

All that does is make the program vulnerable the year after they graduate. I also wonder about a varsity roster with two frosh and ZERO sophies last year.

It's no wonder they're getting transfers... they NEED 'em to field a team. :Ohno:

Tim Price started out on JV and moved up to varsity, and so did Shawn Melton, Brandon Howard should have, he has led the team in scoring and assist, since 7th grade they are all juniors this year.

[voice_of_reason]

From the post above it seems like they have experience in their from line, are the JV players that moved up guards? Where do the transfers fit in?

[college123]

[QUOTE=hurt77;3249637]Tim Price started out on JV and moved up to varsity, and so did Shawn Melton, Brandon Howard should have, he has led the team in scoring and assist, since 7th grade they are all juniors this year.[/QUOTE


Melton has been the leading scorer for his junior class. He could have possibly moved up last year, but we must remeber that last year's team was pretty good, there coach was pretty bad. I know alot of people that went to school, and believe me their expectations were high. The team was guard based and had very good guards. Does anyone kno what happened to them??? I also know that one of the guards was a coach's son which caused many problems for the team, which is very unfortunate because that 08 class was promising.

[college123]

Other grads... PG Kenny Campbell 5'11, PG Lae-Kwam Dukes 5'9 SG Tyshaun Lindsey 6'0...where are they now??? I remember first seeing them, these three guards GOOD. Too bad their coach wasnt. Walnut should be ok this year though

[Eagle Eyes]

The two key players at Walnut this year (including all the transfers) are
soph Alex McGlothin and jr Brandon Howard. McGlothin is versatile and can play the 2,3 or 4 position with ease. Howard is as pure a pt guard as you will find. Their depth will be in the front court with numerous big bodies but as I said in an earlier post, they will be young but very talented.

[FFIndiansBBall]

Darrien is back at Princeton btw

[The Commander]

The transfer Evan Yates is the best player in that school bar none...He could have probably started at some other GMC schools last year...

[Eagle Eyes]

Commander....I've seen both Yates and McGlothin play. Not even close. Yates will be a sr this year and playing varsity for the first time and should contribute to the success of Walnut this year. But, he IS NOT the horse on this team.

[voice_of_reason]

Darrien is back at Princeton btw

Is this true!

I heard rumors of this at the game Thursday night

[1180ChesterRoad]

Commander....I've seen both Yates and McGlothin play. Not even close. Yates will be a sr this year and playing varsity for the first time and should contribute to the success of Walnut this year. But, he IS NOT the horse on this team.

Princeton's JV team last year would've beaten Walnut Hills Varsity team. Evan will be the best player on Walnut Hills and there is no question. The only reason that Evan is playing varsity for the first time this year is because he was stuck behind D1 College players at Princeton. He won't have that problem at Walnut Hills

[FFIndiansBBall]

Yes, it was hard for evean to see the court..i mean he played behind marquis and stefon, and the two seniors off the bench.

But yea darrien is back at princeton, my friend that goes there told me he saw him in the hallways

[Eagle Eyes]

Yes, it was hard for evean to see the court..i mean he played behind marquis and stefon, and the two seniors off the bench.

But yea darrien is back at princeton, my friend that goes there told me he saw him in the hallways

Funny...I thought the most talented played regrdless of who was/is on the team. If this was Yates' time to shine, why did he leave Princeton (asked this question earlier but got no response)? I know for a fact that McGlothin was contacted by two D1 schools last year as a freshman. Willkens did leave Walnut last Thursday. Midterms came out on Friday. Don't know if there is any correlation between the two.....

[hardwork08]

Funny...I thought the most talented played regrdless of who was/is on the team. If this was Yates' time to shine, why did he leave Princeton (asked this question earlier but got no response)? I know for a fact that McGlothin was contacted by two D1 schools last year as a freshman. Willkens did leave Walnut last Thursday. Midterms came out on Friday. Don't know if there is any correlation between the two.....

I guess when you have a coach who plays favorites its easy (i think i heard evan got some D1 looks also).:rolleyes:
imo... alex mcglothin cant stay healthy:eek: ,
did all 5 transfers play on coach moman's aau team? :grouphug:
i heard tim price got put off the team last year is that true:shrug:
i also heard the JV lost to little miami, i saw little miami play last year "they couldnt even score 23 points against a bad 6th grade CYO team" how good is this JV team:confused:
its looks like walnut has a BELOW AVG team.
go city high:rainbow:

[voice_of_reason]

I believe Alex does have the most D1 potential at the school. That does not mean he is the only one that can get a D1 look.

This is just my thought, but if you don't have schools looking at you and you are a senior. You better have a phenominal senior season.

Many players, parents, and coaches needs to be realistic when it comes to getting basketball scholarships.

[Eagle Eyes]

I guess when you have a coach who plays favorites its easy (i think i heard evan got some D1 looks also).:rolleyes:
imo... alex mcglothin cant stay healthy:eek: ,
did all 5 transfers play on coach moman's aau team? :grouphug:
i heard tim price got put off the team last year is that true:shrug:
i also heard the JV lost to little miami, i saw little miami play last year "they couldnt even score 23 points against a bad 6th grade CYO team" how good is this JV team:confused:
its looks like walnut has a BELOW AVG team.
go city high:rainbow:

Checked my sources and Walnut's JV did lose to Little Miami. BUT, 5 players, including 4 starters, did not play due to team violations (kudos to the coach). When the full team did play, Walnut won 52-19. You can draw your own conclusions!!! As far as Tim Price goes, he has had trouble staying eligible after the winter qtr the last two seasons.To his credit, he has stuck with it and if he can stay on the court, can be a real asset to the team. Remember boys and girls....at Walnut it's books first.....

[The Commander]

Who are the 5 transfers? I know one is Evan Yates..

[voice_of_reason]

I am sure you have to put Alex in the lineup.
Someone mentioned a Brandon Howard, who is he?
Will Sean Melton start?
Did Walnut play in any leagues in June/July?

[Eagle Eyes]

With the new coach bringing in some new players it would be hard to say who will start for Walnut this year. I would be shocked if Alex McGlothin and Brandon Howard aren't in the line up. Then add newcomer Evan Yates, maybe Miles Bankston or Tim Price in the front court and probaly Shawn Melton or Josh Stargel at the 2 spot.

[voice_of_reason]

Competition for play makes for a stronger team and a deeper bench.

[eaglepride22]

While things are absolutely looking better at "Da Nut" I have to take exception to some things that have been said on this thread regarding last year's coach. Walter White is a tremendous man who put his heart and soul into the program, while receiving little in return, both monetarily and otherwise. While I admit he may not have been the best "X and O" guy, he was a tremendous motivator who cared deeply about his players. For 6 years he graduated every player, his kids never got in trouble in school or out, and he actually achieved a little success, going to the Division 2 sectional finals in back to back years. For the people bashing him, specifically college 123 I wonder how good you are at your job? I wonder if I followed you around at your place of employment if you would be perfect and never make a mistake? I wonder if you did make a mistake how you would like someone coming on this site and bashing you for your mistake, even if they can not prove they can do any better. Walter is a great man who did the best job he could, and one should remember to keep his or her mouth shut about somebody unless you have walked in their shoes. College 123 what have you ever done to help your community? Exactly. Shut your pie whole.

[chosen one]

Voice of reason, Brandon Howard is a two sport STUDENT athlete (baseball and basketball) @ Walnut. Point guard. He has played varsity baseball since ninth grade and Basketball since the seventh grade. Honors student. He leads both on and off the court. Understands the team concept...as he has lead his team since the seventh grade in assists as well as points and steals. Has been either team captain or co-captain since seventh grade. Hard worker as he trains year round in both sports. Because he plays baseball he has only played AAU in the 8th grade and tried this year but broke his thumb playing shortstop....I think he told me early June. At Walnut many fans feel he could have contributed greatly to varsity last year but was only brought up by the coach to play a couple games.

As far as who the starters will be, have to wait and see. Brandon, Alex, Tim, Miles, and either Sean or Josh would be the logical choice. Havent watched the transfer Evan play so can't comment there.

[1180ChesterRoad]

Funny...I thought the most talented played regrdless of who was/is on the team. If this was Yates' time to shine, why did he leave Princeton (asked this question earlier but got no response)? I know for a fact that McGlothin was contacted by two D1 schools last year as a freshman. Willkens did leave Walnut last Thursday. Midterms came out on Friday. Don't know if there is any correlation between the two.....

There was no correlation between the two and I think that insinuating that is really a cheap shot or low blow at the kid.

[Eagle Eyes]

There was no correlation between the two and I think that insinuating that is really a cheap shot or low blow at the kid.

Can you please shed some light on why he left? Better yet, why did he transer in the first place? If you read my posts you will see that I am not down on the kids but rather those adults who are feeding them crap about going to this school or that school. Do you think he just woke up one morning and said "I think I'll go to Walnut Hills this year"? Why do you think OHSAA implemented more rules this year trying to stop kids from changing schools? Last I checked, this is still high school and not AAU. No cheap shot was intended toward the kid....just his "advisors".

[voice_of_reason]

If over the years, you look at the guys that left Princeton to go play basketball at other schools, mainly Lockland. They all wanted to come back to PHS to graduate. the kids really enjoy the school and friends they make there. They hunger to play ball but this "trend" of players returning shows there is more to it than just bouncing a ball.

[voice_of_reason]

Eagle, I am sure he went there to get varisty PT, in the past month I believe 3 players have committed to Div I colleges. People/players with a competitive nature not only want to win, they want to be on the floor.

But then in him going back to PHS, blows my theory of PT out the window.

[eaglepride22]

I am sorry Chester but you are dead wrong. The two things absolutely were connected. The young man rarely went to class and was failing. When coach Moman talked to him about why he was going back to Princeton the kid specifically told him that the academics were harder than he had thought and it was to much. This is not to say the kid is not intelligent or not capable, frankly he didn't try very hard. But to say their was no connection between him leaving Walnut and the mid-term grades is simply not accurate. It was a huge factor.

[voice_of_reason]

Does anyone know if Walnut will get a new gym? Have they been having open gym there? Who did Mooman get to coach the freshman and JV teams.

[eaglepride22]

Walnut should be breaking ground on a new gym at the end of this academic year, as long as CPS doesn't back out at the last minute. As for the coaching staff I know he has Brian Callahan {formerly of Norwood-- as his assistant, and Adam Lazar, who has been their for 10years as his JV. I noticed they posted in the enquirer the other day for coaches so I am guessing he is still looking for some.

[Eagle Eyes]

Walnut should be breaking ground on a new gym at the end of this academic year, as long as CPS doesn't back out at the last minute. As for the coaching staff I know he has Brian Callahan {formerly of Norwood-- as his assistant, and Adam Lazar, who has been their for 10years as his JV. I noticed they posted in the enquirer the other day for coaches so I am guessing he is still looking for some.

That would be great news about a new gym. I had heard it was at least 2 to 3 years away at best. Dominique Hawkins (son of former coach Darryl Hawkins) will be working with Lazar on the jv level. I do not know who is coaching 7th, 8th or freshman.

[eaglesfootball]

the eagles also have dontonio wingfield jr. coming up in 8th grade, son of former bearcat. I would be surprised if the gym was started in 2009

[WallyHill2002]

the eagles also have dontonio wingfield jr. coming up in 8th grade, son of former bearcat. I would be surprised if the gym was started in 2009

Are you serious??? Wasnt that the guy who was a one and done at UC? Well I hope his kid doesnt pull the same thing at Walnut. DOnt get me wrong, I hope he is good and does well in the classroom. A lot of 8th graders at Walnut do not go on to become 9th graders. Thanks in no small part to Latin.

[tucker]

is walnut hills d2 or d1? why did yates leave princeton?