08-09 Springfield High School

[myspace1412]

i know its a little early but what does everyone expect for there first year..........and has anyone heard claybourne left the team already?

[hsfanOnRC]

Did he go with Akeem to HH? Trice is doing well in Springfield. LOL! Those that stay will benefit from having a great coach at SHS. Slagle will get those boys ready that stay. He instills discipline in those kids that don’t have it.
Props go out to him. 2 years ago he dismissed the number one guy. He doesn't put up with that crap!

Let the head cases and the "me me" players go. SHS will be better off without them.

NOTE: I'm not saying Clayborne is any of these. I don't recall seeing him play last year so I can't comment on that. But I guarentee that Slagle will have the boys that are staying, ready for the GWOC!

Go Cats!

[myspace1412]

Did he go with Akeem to HH? Trice is doing well in Springfield. LOL! Those that stay will benefit from having a great coach at SHS. Slagle will get those boys ready that stay. He instills discipline in those kids that don’t have it.
Props go out to him. 2 years ago he dismissed the number one guy. He doesn't put up with that crap!

Let the head cases and the "me me" players go. SHS will be better off without them.

NOTE: I'm not saying Clayborne is any of these. I don't recall seeing him play last year so I can't comment on that. But I guarentee that Slagle will have the boys that are staying, ready for the GWOC!

Go Cats!

lol sorry claybourne is a coach as in the south legend carlton claybourne......and as far as slagle as the head coach i havent really knew what to expect from him coaching jv and varsity is a big difference...idk if it was just his teams the past couple years or his coaching style didnt really fit i guess we will see in due time..or maybe larry ham will return havent heard anything about him lately:stirthepot:

[hsfanOnRC]

lol sorry claybourne is a coach as in the south legend carlton claybourne......and as far as slagle as the head coach i havent really knew what to expect from him coaching jv and varsity is a big difference...idk if it was just his teams the past couple years or his coaching style didnt really fit i guess we will see in due time..or maybe larry ham will return havent heard anything about him lately:stirthepot:

LOL! That was the first name that popped into my head when you said Clayborne. I remember Calton, but I wasn't sure if you were talking about him. Slagle has done a great job with the kids at South the last two years and I don't see anything that changing at Springfield High.
As for Ham, I don't know. I think he made his bed and he now has to lie in it. He should have known the attitude at Trotwood. He would be a good assitant at Springfield, but who knows. :stirthepot:

I don't know Ham personally but I've heard some things about him. Some good and some bad. He does seem to have a good relationship with his players from what I've seen, but who knows.:shrug: I do feel sorry for him for being let go and he only lost two or so games! I just don't get it.

Go Cats!

[SFIND]

or maybe larry ham will return havent heard anything about him lately:stirthepot:

Ham won't be in the Springfield blue and gold. Last time I talked with him, he said he was going to take it slow and wait to see what comes up. He'll still be teaching at Trotwood this year.

As far as Springfield, I'm afraid we are all in for another 10-10 season.

Burks is a great player at a 3. His three-point shot is crisp and accurate. However, he may have to come inside again with the departure of Freeman. Smith is a plus at point guard, but he needs to cut back on his shots. DePriest is a good center, but that's the extent of it.

The big question in my mind is Kris Moss. He reminds me a lot of DePriest underneath. A deadly free-throw shooter as well. Will he be able to make the transition from JV to Varsity? Maybe 6'3 C.J. Hookfin from North will help out as a forward?

So, there is a lot of physical strength underneath, but where's the height? I think 6'3 (again) be the tallest at Springfield.

One thing is for sure, the Wildcats have their work cut out for them.

They need to go back to the old days when the ran man-to-man all the time. Enough of this 3-2 crap. South couldn't effectivly guard out of the zone last year. On offense, they need to back to an up-tempo all the time. They were too hesitant last year, and they turned the ball over as a result.

But hey, it's a long time before the season starts.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[myspace1412]

Ham won't be in the Springfield blue and gold. Last time I talked with him, he said he was going to take it slow and wait to see what comes up. He'll still be teaching at Trotwood this year.

As far as Springfield, I'm afraid we are all in for another 10-10 season.

Burks is a great player at a 3. His three-point shot is crisp and accurate. However, he may have to come inside again with the departure of Freeman. Smith is a plus at point guard, but he needs to cut back on his shots. DePriest is a good center, but that's the extent of it.

The big question in my mind is Kris Moss. He reminds me a lot of DePriest underneath. A deadly free-throw shooter as well. Will he be able to make the transition from JV to Varsity? Maybe 6'3 C.J. Hookfin from North will help out as a forward?

So, there is a lot of physical strength underneath, but where's the height? I think 6'3 (again) be the tallest at Springfield.

One thing is for sure, the Wildcats have their work cut out for them.

They need to go back to the old days when the ran man-to-man all the time. Enough of this 3-2 crap. South couldn't effectivly guard out of the zone last year. On offense, they need to back to an up-tempo all the time. They were too hesitant last year, and they turned the ball over as a result.

But hey, it's a long time before the season starts.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

what about lassiter do you think he will contribute anything this year?

[SFIND]

what about lassiter do you think he will contribute anything this year?

I know Denzil did great in little leagues and in Middle School, but he's left me scratching my head so far in high school.

I don't know. :shrug:

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[hsfanOnRC]

I always thought DePreist was better than Akeem in more ways than one. But what do I know. LOL!
I would hope that they have a better season than just 10-10. But only time will tell.
Go Cats!

[SFIND]

I always thought DePreist was better than Akeem in more ways than one. But what do I know. LOL!
I would hope that they have a better season than just 10-10. But only time will tell.
Go Cats!

I guess it's just my prefrence to have a leaper over a non-leaper. Akeem did have a beauty of a mid-ranger, too.

Do you go to local basketball games like you do football?

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[troyboy73]

I can remember Karlton Clayborne when he played at Miami, OH. His coach (Jerry Pierson) changed one of his grades so he could stay eligible. A couple of years later Clayborne turned him into school administration and he was fired. Clayborne eventually flunked out also. He was a very good player at South and at Miami.

[hsfanOnRC]

I guess it's just my prefrence to have a leaper over a non-leaper. Akeem did have a beauty of a mid-ranger, too.

Do you go to local basketball games like you do football?

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

I sure do! Both boys and girls. I try and follow baseball/softball too, but with the weather and last minute cancellations/delays, it's really hard. KWIM?

[SFIND]

I sure do! Both boys and girls. I try and follow baseball/softball too, but with the weather and last minute cancellations/delays, it's really hard. KWIM?

Girls basketball doesn't do it for me. Way to slow and too many missed shots. I had to do the PA at Emmanuel for the girls 4 or 5 years ago, and seeing those 10 home game was enough for the next ten years.

So I make up for it by hitting the century mark every year in boys basketball games! :thumb:

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[myspace1412]

Girls basketball doesn't do it for me. Way to slow and too many missed shots. I had to do the PA at Emmanuel for the girls 4 or 5 years ago, and seeing those 10 home game was enough for the next ten years.

So I make up for it by hitting the century mark every year in boys basketball games! :thumb:

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

hahahaha....its going to be a struggle watching springfields girls this year anyway with 2 best players that were incoming freshman going to kr. and the coach quitting before school even started.

[strickly_layups]

anyone have a schedule for both boys and girls, would like to see it... I can't seem to locate it anywhere. Let me know guys

[hsfanOnRC]

anyone have a schedule for both boys and girls, would like to see it... I can't seem to locate it anywhere. Let me know guys

I couldn't find it anywhere but when it comes out, this site should have it.
http://www.wearespringfieldhigh.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=71

The home page is
http://www.wearespringfieldhigh.org/

Hope this helps.

hsfanOnRC

[HoopHound]

hahahaha....its going to be a struggle watching springfields girls this year anyway with 2 best players that were incoming freshman going to kr. and the coach quitting before school even started.

What is "kr."???

[SFIND]

Here is a link to the boys schedule:

http://www.highschoolsports.net/defaultcal.cfm?ct=s&schoolid=OH45503-271418786&spt=2&lvl=-1&division=1&timeoffset=240

highschoolsports.net is the best bet to find schedules. The schools post their own schedules, but all of Springfield's schedules are still listed under Springfield North, which is why it says "Springfield North" on the above link.

I posted the girls on the girls basketball forum.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[SFIND]

What is "kr."???

That's Kenton Ridge High School, the local girls power in basketball (but they still can't even make it out of the districts:D).

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[HoopHound]

That's Kenton Ridge High School, the local girls power in basketball (but they still can't even make it out of the districts:D).

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

Thanks, SFIND... even though myspace's comment was kinda "off-forum" (if you know what I mean), my curiosity was KILLING me!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[CFIK]

Everyone knows that Akeem is still in Springfield, right? Apparently he wasn't able to establish residence in Huber to complete the transfer is for the time being is enrolled at SHS. Whether that is true come basketball season is a big question.

I'm really losing respect for Travis with the way he's "putting" his talent base together. If he gets in trouble it's only going to draw attention to the football program and that won't bode well with the Wayne faithful.

[2nd coming]

Travis is getting all of these kids to go to wayne because they all used to play with his aau team d1 Greyhounds

[hsfanOnRC]

Everyone knows that Akeem is still in Springfield, right? Apparently he wasn't able to establish residence in Huber to complete the transfer is for the time being is enrolled at SHS. Whether that is true come basketball season is a big question.

I'm really losing respect for Travis with the way he's "putting" his talent base together. If he gets in trouble it's only going to draw attention to the football program and that won't bode well with the Wayne faithful.

Anyone know the scoop on this? SFIND? myspace1412?

[strickly_layups]

Akeem is 100% back in Springfield. This is good for the new program, although I think Wayne has the much better overall program as of now. Wayne still will make a deep run into the tournament, having Freeman was icing on the cake. Springfield has some athletes they are tall avg ht 6'4 across the board, do they have a go to player besides Freeman that will put in 14 or 16 per night will be the question.

[myspace1412]

Akeem is 100% back in Springfield. This is good for the new program, although I think Wayne has the much better overall program as of now. Wayne still will make a deep run into the tournament, having Freeman was icing on the cake. Springfield has some athletes they are tall avg ht 6'4 across the board, do they have a go to player besides Freeman that will put in 14 or 16 per night will be the question.

same team as last year minus cooper,storey, and boyd....lucas smith will have some good games and some terrible games teams will focus on burks and freeman as far as freeman putten up 14 or 16 a night we will see. from what i seen over the summer he still lacks a consistent jumper and with teams focusing on him he will need one asap

[hsfanOnRC]

Akeem is a hard worker. He'll be ready when the season starts. He is a very fierce competitor but has to keep his head in the game and not let his emotions take over. I'm sure the coach will work on this and better prepare him for the season to come.
Go Cats!

[myspace1412]

we'll see they open the season with lakota west..does anyone know anything abou there basketball team

[G-Man]

Everyone knows that Akeem is still in Springfield, right? Apparently he wasn't able to establish residence in Huber to complete the transfer is for the time being is enrolled at SHS. Whether that is true come basketball season is a big question.

I'm really losing respect for Travis with the way he's "putting" his talent base together. If he gets in trouble it's only going to draw attention to the football program and that won't bode well with the Wayne faithful.

It really is amazing to me how everyone has their opinion about what Coach Trice is or isn't doing. My understanding, and i am very close to the source is, that Akeem's mother was seeking a way to get him out of Springfield and was even considering Shawnee because of the bad run ins he had at South last year. The obvious choice would be to go somewhere where he is familiar with the coach and kids and it is an up and coming program plus he has family in Huber Heights. The word is that his mother would like to move to Huber Heights and i am sure it is not because Coach Trice is there. I don't believe he has all the influence that you give him credit for nor does he appear to want it and i am sure he is not paying their bills. I've listened to all of the rumors about Trice this summer and all i have seen is kids transferring all around the state including the Dayton area. ie. trotwood and northmont to Thurgood. Carroll to CJ. Dunbar to Trotwood. I have not heard that anyone has transferred to Wayne. Also, no one knows that since the rumor was that Akeem was going to Wayne that he did not receive one phone call from Slagle all summer long. Now i am not saying that anyone should beg him to stay but no inquiries, not asking for an explanation. Slagle new Akeem was not coming to open gyms and he never even made a phone call. This is a fact. Slagle can't sit in Beavercreek all summer except for a few open gyms and then wonder why a kid is not desiring to be with him.

[strickly_layups]

Well said, typical sports in Springfield... Good luck Akeem I hope you have a good season to bad that you cant play where you would like...

[SFIND]

Also, no one knows that since the rumor was that Akeem was going to Wayne that he did not receive one phone call from Slagle all summer long. Now i am not saying that anyone should beg him to stay but no inquiries, not asking for an explanation. Slagle new Akeem was not coming to open gyms and he never even made a phone call. This is a fact. Slagle can't sit in Beavercreek all summer except for a few open gyms and then wonder why a kid is not desiring to be with him.

Let's get something clear: If Akeem could play for Wayne, he would. End of story. He tried to go there.

Now, as far as Slagle knew, he wasn't going to be at Springfield for the upcoming season.

So, what should Slagle do? Beg him to stay?

There wasn't any 'mystery' as to why Freeman wasn't participating with Springfield during the summer. Slagle knew that.

What was he going to say to Akeem? Good luck?

Freeman will try his best at Springfield because that is the type of kid he is. And if he doesn't, he won't be on the team. End of story.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[G-Man]

If you read the post carefully i said know one is asking slagle to beg Akeem to stay.

You asked what should he have said: Let's try this on for size. "Son, I would like to see you stay here" for starters. Or maybe, "let's try to work out the differences or the issues at the school." Or this is a great one, "Is there anything that I can do to help!" I don't think that is begging.

He was never even reached out to him and if Akeem is not wanted because they feel he has a bad attitude or whatever it may be, then no one needs to cry when he wants to leave.

The other issue is that Trice seems to get all the blame when someone wants to leave Springfield for Wayne but the problem is that Springfield doesn't have its stuff together yet. I feel that Slagle is a good guy and wants to do well but how are you going to hire him as the head coach of the combined high school and not give him control over his program? He didn't get to decide who any of his coaches were going to be from seventh grade on up besides Bill Parker. How is he going to get his youth program up and running when he doesn't know if the coaches that were assigned to him believe in his philosophy. I just feel this is backwards thinking and i can't blame anyone for not wanting to wait for Springfield to fix this. There are kids athletic scholarships that are on the line and if you don't believe that then you're fooling yourself.

[strickly_layups]

:clap: WOW!!! I will not comment on that

[#1fanofJC]

AMEN! There is SO much red tape and politics in the athletic decisions in Springfield's system, the kids fall through the cracks. Anyone who has worked behind the doors in the hallways of North or South, have heard the wrongs created by current and former administrators. Obviously, the powers that be didn't trust Slagle enough to make decisions he is more than capable of handling in hiring his own staff from the ground up. I didn't see them hiring staff for Rick Robertson! I wish Springfield the best of luck because it's what happens BEHIND closed doors that controls what coaches can do with their talent. But, just as it's time for Springfield to accept that the one high school is a reality and opens on Monday, it's time to accept that they cannot blame another coach, school, or district for problems going on inside their own system!

Peace and great seasons to all!:rainbow:

[SFIND]

The other issue is that Trice seems to get all the blame when someone wants to leave Springfield for Wayne but the problem is that Springfield doesn't have its stuff together yet. I feel that Slagle is a good guy and wants to do well but how are you going to hire him as the head coach of the combined high school and not give him control over his program? He didn't get to decide who any of his coaches were going to be from seventh grade on up besides Bill Parker. How is he going to get his youth program up and running when he doesn't know if the coaches that were assigned to him believe in his philosophy. I just feel this is backwards thinking and i can't blame anyone for not wanting to wait for Springfield to fix this.

Agreed.

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!

[hsfanOnRC]

If you read the post carefully i said know one is asking slagle to beg Akeem to stay.

You asked what should he have said: Let's try this on for size. "Son, I would like to see you stay here" for starters. Or maybe, "let's try to work out the differences or the issues at the school." Or this is a great one, "Is there anything that I can do to help!" I don't think that is begging.

He was never even reached out to him and if Akeem is not wanted because they feel he has a bad attitude or whatever it may be, then no one needs to cry when he wants to leave.

The other issue is that Trice seems to get all the blame when someone wants to leave Springfield for Wayne but the problem is that Springfield doesn't have its stuff together yet. I feel that Slagle is a good guy and wants to do well but how are you going to hire him as the head coach of the combined high school and not give him control over his program? He didn't get to decide who any of his coaches were going to be from seventh grade on up besides Bill Parker. How is he going to get his youth program up and running when he doesn't know if the coaches that were assigned to him believe in his philosophy. I just feel this is backwards thinking and i can't blame anyone for not wanting to wait for Springfield to fix this. There are kids athletic scholarships that are on the line and if you don't believe that then you're fooling yourself.

You are fooling yourself if you are balming Slagle. Your beach is with the two freaking AD's, not Slagle. If your telling me Slagle should cater to Akeem, you are full of it! And not saying Slagle hasn't reached out to Akeem also seems off base. How do you know Slagle's relationship with him?:shrug: Slagel shouldn't have to call Akeem. I don't know if Slagle knew he was leaving, but why would you call and be like you described. Even though you don't think it would be begging, I'm begging to differ!:)

I don't know what type of "run ins" he has had or with who, but that is sending the wrong message to a young man if you are leaving under those circumstances. You need to teach the youth to over come obstacles in life and that is just sending the wrong message in my book. But what the heck do I know?:shrug:

[G-Man]

You are fooling yourself if you are balming Slagle. Your beach is with the two freaking AD's, not Slagle. If your telling me Slagle should cater to Akeem, you are full of it! And not saying Slagle hasn't reached out to Akeem also seems off base. How do you know Slagle's relationship with him?:shrug: Slagel shouldn't have to call Akeem. I don't know if Slagle knew he was leaving, but why would you call and be like you described. Even though you don't think it would be begging, I'm begging to differ!:)

I don't know what type of "run ins" he has had or with who, but that is sending the wrong message to a young man if you are leaving under those circumstances. You need to teach the youth to over come obstacles in life and that is just sending the wrong message in my book. But what the heck do I know?:shrug:

Hey, you are absolutely right! What the heck do you know? I never said i had any problem with Slagle but i do know first hand the situation. Akeem's problem was not so much with Slagle at all but the problems he was having at school. This is not about basketball to me. I merely said that if it was important to Slagle to have him then you need to help this 15 year old kid sort through the problems at school. His mother was having major issues with the teacher's/principal and a lot of it was Akeem's fault but as his coach it is a great opportunity to help. You can think it sounds far fetched that Slagle has not reached out to him but that is exactly what happened. Maybe Slagle only wants kids that want to be there and i have no issue with that but everyone else is making a big deal about it being Wayne that he was going to go to.
Akeem likes the kids at Springfield High and will play hard wherever he's at but he cannot afford to have a good academic 1st semester leading into basketball and then fail 2 or 3 classes after the season. That my friend is also part of the coaches responsibilty as well as Akeem's and his family.

[myspace1412]

If you read the post carefully i said know one is asking slagle to beg Akeem to stay.

You asked what should he have said: Let's try this on for size. "Son, I would like to see you stay here" for starters. Or maybe, "let's try to work out the differences or the issues at the school." Or this is a great one, "Is there anything that I can do to help!" I don't think that is begging.

He was never even reached out to him and if Akeem is not wanted because they feel he has a bad attitude or whatever it may be, then no one needs to cry when he wants to leave.

The other issue is that Trice seems to get all the blame when someone wants to leave Springfield for Wayne but the problem is that Springfield doesn't have its stuff together yet. I feel that Slagle is a good guy and wants to do well but how are you going to hire him as the head coach of the combined high school and not give him control over his program? He didn't get to decide who any of his coaches were going to be from seventh grade on up besides Bill Parker. How is he going to get his youth program up and running when he doesn't know if the coaches that were assigned to him believe in his philosophy. I just feel this is backwards thinking and i can't blame anyone for not wanting to wait for Springfield to fix this. There are kids athletic scholarships that are on the line and if you don't believe that then you're fooling yourself.

i really dont know how other school districts or springfield(i really dont think springfield schools knows how they work) but are you sayen at other schools such as centerville,wayne,beavercreek,northmontk that varsity basketball coaches have a say in who runs the middle school system? not arguin just tryen to understand this...from most of what i understand coaching jobs are open to public with the exception of teachers have first option and if they didnt want it the ad had to find somebody to fill that position please correct me if im wrong

[hsfanOnRC]

Hey, you are absolutely right! What the heck do you know? I never said i had any problem with Slagle but i do know first hand the situation. Akeem's problem was not so much with Slagle at all but the problems he was having at school. This is not about basketball to me. I merely said that if it was important to Slagle to have him then you need to help this 15 year old kid sort through the problems at school. His mother was having major issues with the teacher's/principal and a lot of it was Akeem's fault but as his coach it is a great opportunity to help. You can think it sounds far fetched that Slagle has not reached out to him but that is exactly what happened. Maybe Slagle only wants kids that want to be there and i have no issue with that but everyone else is making a big deal about it being Wayne that he was going to go to.
Akeem likes the kids at Springfield High and will play hard wherever he's at but he cannot afford to have a good academic 1st semester leading into basketball and then fail 2 or 3 classes after the season. That my friend is also part of the coaches responsibilty as well as Akeem's and his family.

What?! You go from it's Akeems fault to it's Slagle's fault???? Dude why would Slagle help him when it's been all over town that he was going to Wayne! I can tell you you are probably right about Slagle wanting players that want to be there. If Akeem doesn't want to be there, let his arse go! Yes it is part of Slagles responsiblity (grades and classes). But it's not his job to cater to Akeem and tell him he's the man! Get a life! From what you are describling it would be hard to talk to somone like you have described Akeem to be. First Akeem has to be comitted to the program. If he is, I'm sure the coaches will make sure he has study sessions to keep his grades up. But the first commitment should come from Akeem and not Slagle. Like I said before everyone knew that Akeem was headed for another school. Who cares where. I sure don't. You don't run from adversity, you face it head on!
You can't help someone that doesn't want it. How is his attitude since you are very close to this? Please tell us since you are so in the know!

[myspace1412]

Hey, you are absolutely right! What the heck do you know? I never said i had any problem with Slagle but i do know first hand the situation. Akeem's problem was not so much with Slagle at all but the problems he was having at school. This is not about basketball to me. I merely said that if it was important to Slagle to have him then you need to help this 15 year old kid sort through the problems at school. His mother was having major issues with the teacher's/principal and a lot of it was Akeem's fault but as his coach it is a great opportunity to help. You can think it sounds far fetched that Slagle has not reached out to him but that is exactly what happened. Maybe Slagle only wants kids that want to be there and i have no issue with that but everyone else is making a big deal about it being Wayne that he was going to go to.
Akeem likes the kids at Springfield High and will play hard wherever he's at but he cannot afford to have a good academic 1st semester leading into basketball and then fail 2 or 3 classes after the season. That my friend is also part of the coaches responsibilty as well as Akeem's and his family.

only part with this that i agree with is its akeem and his parents responsibilty to make sure he has the grades throughout the entire year....you mean to tell me by transferring to a different school that is going to help him get grades? sorry i dont buy into that if you dont have the work ethic it doesnt matter where you are at...and im not a slagle fan at all i thought they should of went a complete different direction in the coaching selection but i also dont blame slagle for running out begging akeem to stay with the team. its a coaches job to coach the players that want to be there not running around begging or trying to persuade(sp?) a kid to stay around the program

[hsfanOnRC]

Amen myspace1412, and I am a Slagle supporter by the way. But we do agree on this one. I just hope that what ever is troubling this young man he can come forward and get help. People are there waiting, but you have to have some humbleness. Humility is good for the soul.

[G-Man]

What?! You go from it's Akeems fault to it's Slagle's fault???? Dude why would Slagle help him when it's been all over town that he was going to Wayne! I can tell you you are probably right about Slagle wanting players that want to be there. If Akeem doesn't want to be there, let his arse go! Yes it is part of Slagles responsiblity (grades and classes). But it's not his job to cater to Akeem and tell him he's the man! Get a life! From what you are describling it would be hard to talk to somone like you have described Akeem to be. First Akeem has to be comitted to the program. If he is, I'm sure the coaches will make sure he has study sessions to keep his grades up. But the first commitment should come from Akeem and not Slagle. Like I said before everyone knew that Akeem was headed for another school. Who cares where. I sure don't. You don't run from adversity, you face it head on!
You can't help someone that doesn't want it. How is his attitude since you are very close to this? Please tell us since you are so in the know!

Again, this is the type of thinking that holds a program back. No one ever said Slagle was to blame for Akeem's grades or that he should beg him to stay. All this talk about commitment to the program is crap. The system and the program is not for the kids. You are talking about facing adversity head on and not running from it...This kid is 15 years old and it is not his decision. His mother was not happy with the school and some things that were going on with her and the administration. You do not know much if you think a coaches job is just to coach. He/She is to be a mentor, a springboard and someone who's door is open to their athletes. If that is Springfield or Slagles thinking then it will take longer than i expected for this program to get turned around. This was not all about basketball. And his attitude is good and yes i am in the know!

[myspace1412]

Again, this is the type of thinking that holds a program back. No one ever said Slagle was to blame for Akeem's grades or that he should beg him to stay. All this talk about commitment to the program is crap. The system and the program is not for the kids. You are talking about facing adversity head on and not running from it...This kid is 15 years old and it is not his decision. His mother was not happy with the school and some things that were going on with her and the administration. You do not know much if you think a coaches job is just to coach. He/She is to be a mentor, a springboard and someone who's door is open to their athletes. If that is Springfield or Slagles thinking then it will take longer than i expected for this program to get turned around. This was not all about basketball. And his attitude is good and yes i am in the know!

ok your right on he should be more then just a coach..do you know for a fact that AFTER basketball akeem went to slagle and said he needed help?

[G-Man]

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only part with this that i agree with is its akeem and his parents responsibilty to make sure he has the grades throughout the entire year....you mean to tell me by transferring to a different school that is going to help him get grades? sorry i dont buy into that if you dont have the work ethic it doesnt matter where you are at...and im not a slagle fan at all i thought they should of went a complete different direction in the coaching selection but i also dont blame slagle for running out begging akeem to stay with the team. its a coaches job to coach the players that want to be there not running around begging or trying to persuade(sp?) a kid to stay around the program

Changing schools is not going to help Akeem get better grades.
I didn't say i blame Slagle for Akeem's grades but as a coach you do have grade checks set up and possible study tables and/or tudors. This is part of coaching if you are trying to build a program that is successful. Springfield does not have this in place. Yes, the dominant team's usually do. I know Centerville does.
Now, on to the begging part. Where have i said n e thing about begging Akeem. I'm tired of this whole conversation about begging. Go ahead and continue in the same direction and enjoy the 10-10 season because that's where things are headed if there is not a personal relationship between Coach and all of his player. I don't care where Akeem goes either but he is a good athlete and could play a big part in helping get Springfield back in the right direction.

[G-Man]

ok your right on he should be more then just a coach..do you know for a fact that AFTER basketball akeem went to slagle and said he needed help?

No i don't know that but there is not even a grade check for the players. This is something that is simple to do and it really should not be Slagle's responsibilty but he should have it delegated to his staff. You have to have the support of the principal and the teachers. If this is in place then you don't get the surprise that hey one of your best players just failed 2-3 classes. Akeem and his family definitely shoulder most of the blame but the coaches still have to guard against this if they want the program to be successful long term.

[hsfanOnRC]

I guess I'm missing alot here. Shouldn't Akeem and his mom be on the same page. From what you are saying G man, that's not the case. Should a coach get into family concerns? :shrug: If he did, you bet the board on SHS would light up saying he has no business in family business! LOL! Catch 22 there.
Someone needs to swallow some pride and get this young man some help. Wether it's Akeem, Akeems mom or Slagle. Could you tell me which one should and why? :shrug:

[hsfanOnRC]

No i don't know that but there is not even a grade check for the players. This is something that is simple to do and it really should not be Slagle's responsibilty but he should have it delegated to his staff. You have to have the support of the principal and the teachers. If this is in place then you don't get the surprise that hey one of your best players just failed 2-3 classes. Akeem and his family definitely shoulder most of the blame but the coaches still have to guard against this if they want the program to be successful long term.

With two ADs that they have there (which is a joke in itself), there should be plenty of monitoring of student athletes. :wallbang: Wait, they're not really ADs, they just pretend. :stirthepot:

[myspace1412]

Changing schools is not going to help Akeem get better grades.
I didn't say i blame Slagle for Akeem's grades but as a coach you do have grade checks set up and possible study tables and/or tudors. This is part of coaching if you are trying to build a program that is successful. Springfield does not have this in place. Yes, the dominant team's usually do. I know Centerville does.
Now, on to the begging part. Where have i said n e thing about begging Akeem. I'm tired of this whole conversation about begging. Go ahead and continue in the same direction and enjoy the 10-10 season because that's where things are headed if there is not a personal relationship between Coach and all of his player. I don't care where Akeem goes either but he is a good athlete and could play a big part in helping get Springfield back in the right direction.

i agree with there should be study tables but i thought after the season was over you could no longer do that? maybe im wrong but i know as far as summer and everything goes coaches are only allowed to do so much with the athletes(including grade checks) from my understanding..the only thing setting up study tables is after the season you cant make it mandatory cause i kno for a fact last season 3 just from south played baseball,akeem was playing aau.so how many players would actually show up..but i understand where your going with coaches/athlete relationship

[G-Man]

I guess I'm missing alot here. Shouldn't Akeem and his mom be on the same page. From what you are saying G man, that's not the case. Should a coach get into family concerns? :shrug: If he did, you bet the board on SHS would light up saying he has no business in family business! LOL! Catch 22 there.
Someone needs to swallow some pride and get this young man some help. Wether it's Akeem, Akeems mom or Slagle. Could you tell me which one should and why? :shrug:

It's not about getting involved in family affairs but this is Slagle's athlete. If they have grade checks set up and an athlete isn't doing well then the coach can call that player in and try to resolve it. The parent should be on top of this but the reality is that all parents are not involved like they should and i'm not saying Akeem's mother is not. She was at the school on several occasions last year trying to get some answers on what was happening in a couple of classes but she went about it wrong which cause problems between her and the administration. That is why she wanted to remove him not because of basketball or Slagle. This is ultimately has to be a group effort and Slagle like it or not has to be involved or your always going to be missing key pieces to his program.

[troyboy73]

It's gonna be nice to see Springfield play in their new gym (2,400).

[G-Man]

i really dont know how other school districts or springfield(i really dont think springfield schools knows how they work) but are you sayen at other schools such as centerville,wayne,beavercreek,northmontk that varsity basketball coaches have a say in who runs the middle school system? not arguin just tryen to understand this...from most of what i understand coaching jobs are open to public with the exception of teachers have first option and if they didnt want it the ad had to find somebody to fill that position please correct me if im wrong

myspace1412, this is how it is suppose to work. Those programs you just mention have head coaches that get to decide who they want to be the coaches in their programs from 7th - varsity assistants. They submit to the school board who they want and the board votes to approve or decline those request. The only way the decline it is if a persons background doesn't check out or if there has been issues with them before. And there is no rule about the coach having to be a teacher that is just the standard that most schools use. Trice at Wayne is State farm agent and does not teach at all or have any school duties. Brown at Northmont is retired and Staley only teaches like 1 class at Centerville and the rest of his time is spent preparing and watching game film. It is essential to the success of Springfield and to Slagle that he be able to teach his system to his coaches so that they are prepared when they get to him at the varsity level.

[G-Man]

i agree with there should be study tables but i thought after the season was over you could no longer do that? maybe im wrong but i know as far as summer and everything goes coaches are only allowed to do so much with the athletes(including grade checks) from my understanding..the only thing setting up study tables is after the season you cant make it mandatory cause i kno for a fact last season 3 just from south played baseball,akeem was playing aau.so how many players would actually show up..but i understand where your going with coaches/athlete relationship

You are allowed to run study tables from the beginning of school until the end of the school year. You just have to have an administration that will allow it. I'm not saying Springfield's wont because i don't know if they have been asked. You don't necessarily have to run study tables outside of your particular season but you definitely can do grade checks.

[myspace1412]

myspace1412, this is how it is suppose to work. Those programs you just mention have head coaches that get to decide who they want to be the coaches in their programs from 7th - varsity assistants. They submit to the school board who they want and the board votes to approve or decline those request. The only way the decline it is if a persons background doesn't check out or if there has been issues with them before. And there is no rule about the coach having to be a teacher that is just the standard that most schools use. Trice at Wayne is State farm agent and does not teach at all or have any school duties. Brown at Northmont is retired and Staley only teaches like 1 class at Centerville and the rest of his time is spent preparing and watching game film. It is essential to the success of Springfield and to Slagle that he be able to teach his system to his coaches so that they are prepared when they get to him at the varsity level.

well one thing i do know for a fact is over the summer after he was hired they had a meeting up at the school and already stressed he wanted everybody on the same page, and they were having open gyms for EVERYBODY at south including middle schools..samething the football team is doing except robertson even had a meeting with peewee coaches

[hsfanOnRC]

myspace1412, this is how it is suppose to work. Those programs you just mention have head coaches that get to decide who they want to be the coaches in their programs from 7th - varsity assistants. They submit to the school board who they want and the board votes to approve or decline those request. The only way the decline it is if a persons background doesn't check out or if there has been issues with them before. And there is no rule about the coach having to be a teacher that is just the standard that most schools use. Trice at Wayne is State farm agent and does not teach at all or have any school duties. Brown at Northmont is retired and Staley only teaches like 1 class at Centerville and the rest of his time is spent preparing and watching game film. It is essential to the success of Springfield and to Slagle that he be able to teach his system to his coaches so that they are prepared when they get to him at the varsity level.

I totally agree. But I think that the AD's shold be held responsible in this case. Again, back to the ADs. :stirthepot: They aren't ADs. :eek: They are a bunch of "good ole boys" that took advantage of the new SHS system. They have surrounded themselves with them and they aren't going anywhere without a fight! :wallbang:
A coach needs an AD that supports their coaches! That's not the case here. I think the problem are the ADs! But again what do I know! LOL!

[hsfanOnRC]

well one thing i do know for a fact is over the summer after he was hired they had a meeting up at the school and already stressed he wanted everybody on the same page, and they were having open gyms for EVERYBODY at south including middle schools..samething the football team is doing except robertson even had a meeting with peewee coaches

Myspace,
What do you know about pee wee? I heard some disturbing news about the Springfield pee wee. Could you PM me when you have a chance.
Thanks,
hsfanOnRC

[strickly_layups]

wht about the lil wildcats, a classy organization that was on top long before the merger of the schools. As far as Akeem lets let this topic die, no need to exploit a 15 yr old on a forum.. He's back home now, just have to deal with it and move on. I know the family personnally and they want whats best for him, Wayne was the better choice but it did not happen. Springfield is a long ways from being back on top. Speaking of the AD's cant believe no head coach for the girls' program yet, wht the H---!!!!!

[SFIND]

As far as Akeem lets let this topic die, no need to exploit a 15 yr old on a forum.. He's back home now, just have to deal with it and move on. I know the family personnally and they want whats best for him, Speaking of the AD's cant believe no head coach for the girls' program yet, wht the H---!!!!!

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Strickly's right, you can go on and on about the what it's, what should have been done by who, ect. ect., but at the end of the day, does it really solve anything?

I am 100% supportive of Slagle and I trust he will lead Springfield. He's a respectful, down-to-Earth guy and a great coach.

As far as the AD's go, I respect both of them and they do a fine job. A dog can only play with the toy's he's given.

Although, as Strickly said, why no HC for the girls now? I guess that explains why someone in my Biology class here in Cougar Country spent their summer at a National AAU tournament is here in Cougar Country and not a Wildcat...

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR HOOPS!!!!!

[myspace1412]

:clap:

Strickly's right, you can go on and on about the what it's, what should have been done by who, ect. ect., but at the end of the day, does it really solve anything?

I am 100% supportive of Slagle and I trust he will lead Springfield. He's a respectful, down-to-Earth guy and a great coach.

As far as the AD's go, I respect both of them and they do a fine job. A dog can only play with the toy's he's given.

Although, as Strickly said, why no HC for the girls now? I guess that explains why someone in my Biology class here in Cougar Country spent their summer at a National AAU tournament is here in Cougar Country and not a Wildcat...

GO SPRINGFIELD!!!!!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR HOOPS!!!!!


im pretty sure i know who your reffering to and sorry she is a good playre but the one who stayed is the better player:stirthepot: but maybe she is what kr needs to get over that hump they can never seem to get through

[HoopHound]

Before this thread bounces too far off topic... let's reserve the girls basketball remarks and discussion for their forum!! :cool:

Thanks. :)

[myspace1412]

does anyone know why slagle decided to start open gym a month after the allowed time to begin open gyms/lifting? it seems like he would be wanting to get these kids in asap

[Mr_Randy]

Where Is Ham? ... If You Want To Win Hire Ham Back

[myspace1412]

Where Is Ham? ... If You Want To Win Hire Ham Back

i dont think this slagle stint will last to long and he will be looken for a new job sooner then later..but i dont think we will ever see ham back in the blue and gold