Federal League 2008-2009?

[bryan21]

The federal league is pretty wide open this year especially since there arent any 7-footers in the league. i think teams like boardman and lake along with jackson and mckinley all have a fair shot at the league with hoover and perry.

[tomsawyer]

you might want to mention GlenOak in your post since they are probably one of the favorites with poy canidate cj, storm, tj and much improved jimmy darnley and brandon martin all on state tournament team of 2 years ago....they might be in the mix....just a guess :shrug:

[bryan21]

ok yea i was just throwin some teams out there man lol glenoak is gonna be a real tough team but other than jimmy they really dont have any other big guys. they are gonna have to rely a lot on their guards to carry them. i play for lake and we have played them a few times in our summer league and they are a really talented team.

[Shout999]

I'd have to say Jackson is gonna be the favorites. With the two bigs, I don't see many teams being able to control them on the glass.
GlenOak, like last year, is big men deficient, but they do have two snipers from the outside who should help carry them to a upper tier finish in the league.
Hoover is always tough and I believe they have some returners.
I also think that McKinley should be a team on the rise as they were rebuilding over the past few year.
This should be Boardman's best chance for a good team in a while. With Soller, Pesta, Martin (hopefully, rumor is he might not be eligible), Karzmer and Moore returning...(most were starters throughout the year). These kids are working hard, and should only be getting better as they go into their 2nd year under Coach Goske. Should be a balanced year again

[HoopHound]

I'd have to say Jackson is gonna be the favorites. With the two bigs, I don't see many teams being able to control them on the glass.
GlenOak, like last year, is big men deficient, but they do have two snipers from the outside who should help carry them to a upper tier finish in the league.
Hoover is always tough and I believe they have some returners.
I also think that McKinley should be a team on the rise as they were rebuilding over the past few year.
This should be Boardman's best chance for a good team in a while. With Soller, Pesta, Martin (hopefully, rumor is he might not be eligible), Karzmer and Moore returning...(most were starters throughout the year). These kids are working hard, and should only be getting better as they go into their 2nd year under Coach Goske. Should be a balanced year again

I think this is a VERY inportant year for the Spartans as they slowly rebuild from the Gorski years. Jimmy Goske is a quality coach (and person), and I'm hoping that his four returning starters (three of which are seniors) can play at the level they're capable.

The returning starters are (with THIS year's grade levels):
10 Jordan Karzmer 5'8 Sr 140 *
42 Devron Martin 6'4 Sr 200 *
33 Ryan Pesta 6'3 Sr 190 *
50 JT Moore 6'4 Jr 205 *

(6'4 Dan Kubala the only starter from last season lost to graduation.)

Other returning varsity players...
44 Adam Sattler 6'4 Sr 190
32 Eric Soller 6'3 Sr 190
5 Chase Hammond 6'3 Jr 180

I'd guess that Soller gets the 5th starting spot, although he WAS pretty effective off-the-bench last year, which means that probably Sattler could get the nod. :shrug:

I really don't know too much about Hammond. :blush:

...Martin (hopefully, rumor is he might not be eligible)...

Losing Devron Martin's would be a HUGE negative for Boardman as he represents much/most of the Spartans inside presence between the blocks. Hopefully, he'll be available.

Regardless of Martin's availability, J.T. Moore needs a BIG year for the maroon & white to compete for a top spot in the FL. They've GOT to get by GlenOak and their quality guard play (can Boardman's guards match-up and keep up?) and Jackson's college-sized bigs (a troublesome match-up problem if Martin doesn't play).

I've been a Goske fan since his playing days at Boardman... I wish the Spartans success!! :cool:

[HoopHound]

Here are some other Federal League rosters submitted to me toward the end of last season. The grade levels of the players have been updated to reflect THIS season's grade levels...

Lake Blue Streaks
Returning Starters (1):
#11 Josh Habeck G 6'0" 12
(Carpenter, Groot, Lucas, & Billy Habeck lost to graduation)

other Lake players...
#45 Nick Harig F 6'3" 12
#23 Allen Meffan G 5'10" 12
#15 Matt Mitchell G/F 6'1" 12
#25 Kyler King G 5'9" 12

North Canton Hoover
Returning starters (2):
*14 Nyles Evans G 5'10 So
*32 Jerod Lane C 6'5 Sr
(Wakulchik & Elder lost to graduation... J. Porrini to transfer)

Other Hoover players...
30 Greg Beck F 6'3 Sr
44 Dan Daugherty G 5'9 Jr
50 Tyler Fausnight C 6'3 Jr
54 Alex Gearhart F 6'4 Sr
34 Dan Nettleton F 5'10 Jr
52 Corey Porrini F 6'1 Jr <<< not certain if the younger Porrini also transferred? :confused:
42 Nick Sommers F 6'3 Sr
40 Jim Wackerly G 5'11 Jr
12 Chad Whittaker G 5'11 Sr

Perry Panthers
Returning starters (2):
Anthony Capuano 5'6 PG* Sr
Nick Voican 6'6 SG* Sr
(Thomas, Reed, and a kid named Frease... lost to graduation)

Other Perry players...
Derrick Burkholder 6'7 C Jr
Tyler Light 6'0 (SG) Sr
Jason Johnson 5'10 (SG) Sr
Brian Sengos 5'11 (SF) Sr

Canton McKinley
(none of the McKinley rosters I received specified starters from last season) :dang:
Derrick Gordan 5'9 G Sr
Terrell Lipkins 5'7 G Sr
Jamon McClain 5'11 G Jr
Brandel Dave 5'11 G Sr
Fred Johnson 6'2 F Jr
David Morgan 6'0 G Jr
Stoney Lockett 6'3 C Sr
Chris Snow 6'5 C Jr
Tommie Harris 6'1 G Jr


Unfortunately, none of the fans from Fitch, Jackson, and GlenOak ever bothered submitting '07-'08 rosters during OR after last season. :wallbang:

See NOW why I requested them???

It would be GREAT having them right now for discussion. :blush:

[bryan21]

dude there are more than 5 guys on lake man lol

#21 Bryan Babbo
#43 Kurt Stefanov
#12 Trey Vaughn
#15 Derrick Sitzler
#53 Alex Loy
#54 Connor Groot

Babbo loy and kurt are all seniors.

[HoopHound]

dude there are more than 5 guys on lake man lol

#21 Bryan Babbo
#43 Kurt Stefanov
#12 Trey Vaughn
#15 Derrick Sitzler
#53 Alex Loy
#54 Connor Groot

Babbo loy and kurt are all seniors.

bryan... my list is strictly from those submitted to me by Lake fans LAST SEASON of players that dressed varsity regularly.

Did the above 6 players dress for all varsity games last year?

What are their heights and grade levels?

I see you're a newbie in here, so I'll give you a pass this time... but I'm NOT "dude". "Hoop", "HH", or "Hound" will do just fine. I'm old enough to be your father, not a pal from the mall...

[bryan21]

Alright my bad but Babbo, Loy, and Kurt all dressed.

Babbo-5'11
Kurt-6'0
Loy-6'3
Trey-6'1
Derek-6'0
Connor-6'4

There will prolly be a couple other kids but these guys along with the ones you listed earlier are the only ones that will be seein the floor.

[hs sports fan]

GlenOak
http://homepage.mac.com/aviatorteach/GOBasketball/varsity0708.htm

Hoover
http://www.hooverhoops.com/index.php?grade=varsity&team=team

Jackson
http://www.jacksonbasketball.com/Boys_07-08/High%20School/varsity_roster_2007_2008.htm

Lake
http://www.bluestreakbasketball.com/varsity_roster.htm

Perry
http://www.perrybasketball.com/rosters.htm

[HoopHound]

GlenOak
http://homepage.mac.com/aviatorteach/GOBasketball/varsity0708.htm

Hoover
http://www.hooverhoops.com/index.php?grade=varsity&team=team

Jackson
http://www.jacksonbasketball.com/Boys_07-08/High%20School/varsity_roster_2007_2008.htm

Lake
http://www.bluestreakbasketball.com/varsity_roster.htm

Perry
http://www.perrybasketball.com/rosters.htm

Thanks, hssf... those are GREAT additions!! :thumb:

[champion]

Returning Starters
C.J. McCollum
T.J. Sutton
Storm Sanders

Brandon Martin
Chuck Card
Jimmy Darnley
Rickey Post
Turon Parker
David Tucker

[HoopHound]

Returning Starters
C.J. McCollum
T.J. Sutton
Storm Sanders

Brandon Martin
Chuck Card
Jimmy Darnley
Rickey Post
Turon Parker
David Tucker

champ... can you add heights and grade levels to these players?

Thanks!! :)

[champion]

Returning Starters
C.J. McCollum 6'1" SR
T.J. Sutton 5'9" JR
Storm Sanders 6' JR

Brandon Martin 5'10" JR
Chuck Card 5'11" SR
Jimmy Darnley 6'4" JR
Rickey Post 5'11" SR
Turon Parker 6'1" JR
David Tucker 6'3" SR

[HoopHound]

Returning Starters
C.J. McCollum 6'1" SR
T.J. Sutton 5'9" JR
Storm Sanders 6' JR

Brandon Martin 5'10" JR
Chuck Card 5'11" SR
Jimmy Darnley 6'4" JR
Rickey Post 5'11" SR
Turon Parker 6'1" JR
David Tucker 6'3" SR

They certainly ARE lacking in size for a D-I program. GlenOak guards will have LOTS of pressure on them to have BIG seasons.

Any size on the freshman or JV's from last season that can be brought up?

[bryan21]

Jimmy Darnley has made a huge improvement from last year. He has a real good feel for the game and he is very efficient in the post. He is gonna play a major part in determining the way their season goes.

[HoopHound]

Jimmy Darnley has made a huge improvement from last year. He has a real good feel for the game and he is very efficient in the post. He is gonna play a major part in determining the way their season goes.

Have you seen McKinley this summer, bryan?

Your thoughts?

[bryan21]

well they were in a sumer league with Lake, Timken, Glenoak, and then a couple of other smaller schools. They were split up into 2 teams tho so its kind of hard to judge them right now. But i can know for a fact that they will be better than they were last year thats for sure. The games between all of these teams were pretty close so thats why i think the league is so wide open. Both of the Porrini's transferred to Timken so hoover lost some talent there but then Joe Gross from Mckinley decided to transfer to Hoover. So its going to be an interesting season in the Federal League.

[hs sports fan]

Returning Starters
C.J. McCollum 6'1" SR
T.J. Sutton 5'9" JR
Storm Sanders 6' JR

Brandon Martin 5'10" JR
Chuck Card 5'11" SR
Jimmy Darnley 6'4" JR
Rickey Post 5'11" SR
Turon Parker 6'1" JR
David Tucker 6'3" SR

Is Parker a lefty? I saw them earlier this summer and there was a lefty that I did not recognize, and he's the only name I don't know.

[bluepride171]

GlenOak's last year roster..

CJ McCollum 11th 5'11
TJ Sutton 10th 5'9
Ricky Post 11th 5-10
Arius Jackson 10th 6-0
Scott Fisher 12 6-2
Chuck Card 11th 5'10
Storm Sanders 10th 5'11
Brandon Martin 10th 5'9
Jimmy Darnley 10th 6-3
TC Schumachtenberger 11th 5'9
Josh Barrino 11th 6'0
Patrick Williams 12th 6'2

[Caleb]

well they were in a sumer league with Lake, Timken, Glenoak, and then a couple of other smaller schools. They were split up into 2 teams tho so its kind of hard to judge them right now. But i can know for a fact that they will be better than they were last year thats for sure. The games between all of these teams were pretty close so thats why i think the league is so wide open. Both of the Porrini's transferred to Timken so hoover lost some talent there but then Joe Gross from Mckinley decided to transfer to Hoover. So its going to be an interesting season in the Federal League.


I understand the younger porrini has not transferred into Timken yet because of legel issues and the older Porrini as of now has been ruled ineligible because of address issues.

[polar_purple]

Gotta lol at bryan21 - he didn't want to leave anyone out there as having a shot at the FLC - named 7 of the 8 teams as having potential to win the title. The lone omitted team unfortunately doesn't have a snowball's chance in you know where of winning. :)

Personally, I'd have to go w/Jackson as the favorite (feels so good to finally be able to say that again) w/GlenOak #2, perhaps.

[bryan21]

Gotta lol at bryan21 - he didn't want to leave anyone out there as having a shot at the FLC - named 7 of the 8 teams as having potential to win the title. The lone omitted team unfortunately doesn't have a snowball's chance in you know where of winning. :)

Personally, I'd have to go w/Jackson as the favorite (feels so good to finally be able to say that again) w/GlenOak #2, perhaps.

lol its not that i didnt wanna leave anyone out, its the fact that everyone has a legitimate shot at the league this year (except you know who). But i do think that Jackson and glenoak will be the 2 toughest teams. Jackson has the big guys and glenoak has the guards.

[tomsawyer]

parker for glenoak is a soph.....and will make an impact::cool:

[just a fan]

It's too early!

[HoopHound]

It's too early!

NEVER too early to talk hoops, JAF!!! :) ;)

[bryan21]

i have to agree with hoop....Its never too early to talk hoops. In fact its almost the end of summer, i think we started a little late.

[Shady29]

For the Spartans, I can see Soller and Pesta having big years from the outside. Pesta is a two time all conference...and is primed for a big Senior Season. Jordan Karzmer at the Point has good confidence and a solid jump shot. JT Moore and Dev'ron Martin are the two big men down low. Dev'ron is a much needed piece to this team..and without him the Spartans will be in trouble. Dev'ron is a more polished player than JT (as he's a year older), and with all these pieces coming back...I can see the Spartans finishing in the top half of the FL.

[Dog Corporation]

I understand the younger porrini has not transferred into Timken yet because of legel issues and the older Porrini as of now has been ruled ineligible because of address issues.


This has happened since when ?

[just a fan]

NEVER too early to talk hoops, JAF!!! :) ;)

Not too early to talk hoops, Hoop ;)

....just too early to talk league champion.

[diamondmatch]

bryan... my list is strictly from those submitted to me by Lake fans LAST SEASON of players that dressed varsity regularly.

Did the above 6 players dress for all varsity games last year?

What are their heights and grade levels?

I see you're a newbie in here, so I'll give you a pass this time... but I'm NOT "dude". "Hoop", "HH", or "Hound" will do just fine. I'm old enough to be your father, not a pal from the mall...

Easy "KNIGHT" !!!!!!

[Caleb]

This has happened since when ?

Heard that 4th of July weekend.

[HoopHound]

Easy "KNIGHT" !!!!!!

I got that diamond!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Difference is that I didn't grab anyone and knock 'em against any walls. :angel: (and hopefully... I won't end up getting fired..Yappi doesn't have me on "zero tolerance... yet). :eek: :eek:

bryan & I are pals now anyway!! He proved he knows his stuff!! :)

He's probably already figured out that I'm a grumpy old man sometimes. :blush:

[111411]

He's probably already figured out that I'm a grumpy old man sometimes. :blush:

I've been called worse. :dang:

[LOUIE 44]

Hey 111411 how are you I know your not that grumpy! :)

[111411]

Hey 111411 how are you I know your not that grumpy! :)


I'm doing great, Louie. I've been wearing out the golf courses this summer.

I've been called a grumpy-grandpa type. :D When in my grandpa role, I'm a sweetheart.

[bryan21]

i think perry is going to really struggle this year without frease. They have a 6'5ish? junior who is decent but the only other tall kid is voican and he is a guard. they are gonna have to rely heavily on voican and capuano to carry the load and i dont know if that will happen.

[aauplayer]

Returning Starters
Eric Pace 5'10" G SR
Mark Henniger 6'8" C JR
Josh Egner 6'7" F JR

Additional Returning Letterman
Danny Tamburo 5'10" G SR
Jake Batcho 6'4" F JR
Brad Dupont 5'10" G JR
Michael Schull 5'10" G SO

Other Player
CJ Julian 6"0" G JR
David Devine 6'0" F JR
Nathan Kanam 5'10" G JR

These were the players that played in the summer when I saw them a couple of times. Once you get past the two bigs they have no size. Rumor has it they have some decent size Sophomores (6'2 to 6'4") but it is doubtful they will receive much playing time.

[HasBeenn11]

Returning Starters
Eric Pace 5'10" G SR
Mark Henniger 6'8" C JR
Josh Egner 6'7" F JR

Additional Returning Letterman
Danny Tamburo 5'10" G SR
Jake Batcho 6'4" F JR
Brad Dupont 5'10" G JR
Michael Schull 5'10" G SO

Other Player
CJ Julian 6"0" G JR
David Devine 6'0" F JR
Nathan Kanam 5'10" G JR

These were the players that played in the summer when I saw them a couple of times. Once you get past the two bigs they have no size. Rumor has it they have some decent size Sophomores (6'2 to 6'4") but it is doubtful they will receive much playing time.

What would constitute "size" to you? If they were 6'7'' at every position? I am sure any team in the FL would love to have Jackson "size" or lack thereof.

[McK93]

What would constitute "size" to you? If they were 6'7'' at every position? I am sure any team in the FL would love to have Jackson "size" or lack thereof.I was thinking the same thing.:shrug: People tend to forget these are HS teams and don't have random 7 footers sitting on the bench.

[flowerman]

i think perry is going to really struggle this year without frease. They have a 6'5ish? junior who is decent but the only other tall kid is voican and he is a guard. they are gonna have to rely heavily on voican and capuano to carry the load and i dont know if that will happen.

Perry could surprise some teams this year. I think they will run a lot this year. Getting Josh Tormasi back out will help. Although he is not very tall, he will be around the ball and get his share of rebounds and since he is a track and cross country star he will be able to run up and down the course all game long.

[bryan21]

Perry could surprise some teams this year. I think they will run a lot this year. Getting Josh Tormasi back out will help. Although he is not very tall, he will be around the ball and get his share of rebounds and since he is a track and cross country star he will be able to run up and down the course all game long.

i do agree with you. I have looked into perry more and it looks like they might have some younger talent that could take the league by surprise. Tormasi WILL help out a lot especially to help voican at the big man position. I played with voican in AAU and when he was the only big guy he really struggled because he really isnt a true post player. The only way perry will be good is if they have at least 1 or 2 other taller guys to releive pressure off voican. I do expect capuano and voican to both have good years but i dont see them repeating as FL champs.

[aauplayer]

In response to my statement about the lack of size Jackson has other than the two bigs. Yes they have good size with those two but at the other position they are short and not very strong. Their guards get backed down and are easy to shot over if you remember the Timken game last year it was Brown and the other Timken guards who kept backing the Jackson guards in to the key and shooting over them from 10 to 15 feet before either of the big man could help out.

Having three kids on the floor shorter than 6' at the D-1 and expecting to gois difficult unless the guards are extremely athlethic which Jackson are not compaired to other D-1 schools.

[HasBeenn11]

In response to my statement about the lack of size Jackson has other than the two bigs. Yes they have good size with those two but at the other position they are short and not very strong. Their guards get backed down and are easy to shot over if you remember the Timken game last year it was Brown and the other Timken guards who kept backing the Jackson guards in to the key and shooting over them from 10 to 15 feet before either of the big man could help out.

Having three kids on the floor shorter than 6' at the D-1 and expecting to gois difficult unless the guards are extremely athlethic which Jackson are not compaired to other D-1 schools.

Again I will say, I guarantee any team in the FL would take 6'7'', 6'8'', 5'10'', 5'11'' and 6'0'' as their starting line-up.

[mtownscout]

BRYAN21

VOICAN!! isn't a post player he is a 2 or 3 GUARD he just happens to be 6'6 you won't ever see him in the post unless there is a mis-match other wise he will be on the wing. Perry has 3 or 4 post players. Derek Burkhoulder 6'7 Jr. Jordan Humphrey 6'6 Fr. an still growing, 6'4 Steven Roe Soph. , And Josh Tormasi 6'3 Sr. undersized post player but scraps an plays hard defense.

[flowerman]

BRYAN21

VOICAN!! isn't a post player he is a 2 or 3 GUARD he just happens to be 6'6 you won't ever see him in the post unless there is a mis-match other wise he will be on the wing. Perry has 3 or 4 post players. Derek Burkhoulder 6'7 Jr. Jordan Humphrey 6'6 Fr. an still growing, 6'4 Steven Roe Soph. , And Josh Tormasi 6'3 Sr. undersized post player but scraps an plays hard defense.

Tormasi is only 6'1".

[HoopsRGreat]

It only stands to reason that with most of the impact kids at Jackson hitting the Varsity hardwoods for their third year should be highly touted this year!

Jackson should only lose two games during the regular season and walk through the Districts, that is if you believe all of the hype. I think they will have a very good season based on the talent.

They have two weaknesses and if they overcome those they will have a better than average year this year!

[bryan21]

It only stands to reason that with most of the impact kids at Jackson hitting the Varsity hardwoods for their third year should be highly touted this year!

Jackson should only lose two games during the regular season and walk through the Districts, that is if you believe all of the hype. I think they will have a very good season based on the talent.

They have two weaknesses and if they overcome those they will have a better than average year this year!

So in your opinion, what do you think their 2 weaknesses are?

Guards? Coaching?

[ohiobballstar]

So in your opinion, what do you think their 2 weaknesses are?

Guards? Coaching?

BINGO

[aauplayer]

I would agree with one of the two weakness listed above but believe their biggest weakness is not listed.
1) Defense
After watching them play a couple of times during the summer this group plays limited or no defense. The guards and wings get beat on dribble penetration all the time and make no effort to get back and help. This is especially true of a couple of guards who just think about getting their shots. They rely on the bigs to cover this weakness which will create foul trouble against good teams during the season.

2) Offensive Philosophy
This team should be an inside-out team however it is clear that the coaching staff has a guards oriented philosophy. They take some of the quickest and dumbest shots I have ever seen in the 15+ plus years I have been watching the game. When you have the horses (bigs) you should ride them until they can't go anymore. Once the get to a set offense no one should take a shot until at least one of the bigs touches the ball down the floor unless it is a wide open lay-up.

I think the coaches understand this concept but after coming from a small school they did not have the talent to take advantage of the inside-out game. When these two bigs are gone they can go back to the guard oriented offense.

[Bbear44]

I have it from someone inside the Jackson program that they have improved drastically, and have a legitimate shot at going to state, that is how tough they are going to be this year. Henninger and Egner have improved drastically, with Henninger playing overseas early this summer, and the guards have really improved also. I honestly believe they will win the federal league without much competition

[McK93]

I honestly believe they will win the federal league without much competition:Ohno: :Ohno: :Ohno: Nice to know.

[HoopsRGreat]

I would agree with one of the two weakness listed above but believe their biggest weakness is not listed.
1) Defense
After watching them play a couple of times during the summer this group plays limited or no defense. The guards and wings get beat on dribble penetration all the time and make no effort to get back and help. This is especially true of a couple of guards who just think about getting their shots. They rely on the bigs to cover this weakness which will create foul trouble against good teams during the season.

2) Offensive Philosophy
This team should be an inside-out team however it is clear that the coaching staff has a guards oriented philosophy. They take some of the quickest and dumbest shots I have ever seen in the 15+ plus years I have been watching the game. When you have the horses (bigs) you should ride them until they can't go anymore. Once the get to a set offense no one should take a shot until at least one of the bigs touches the ball down the floor unless it is a wide open lay-up.

I think the coaches understand this concept but after coming from a small school they did not have the talent to take advantage of the inside-out game. When these two bigs are gone they can go back to the guard oriented offense.


Great Post!!!!

I hope to get back this winter in order to see Jackson play more often among other local teams. I only saw them play a couple of times last year and thought that they had a lot of potential. There is no reason they cannot have a great season. Defense and understanding that the ball has to go inside as the first option to get the most of the talent they have is important.

If they play a guard oriented offense they will win a lot of regular season games, but one or two and done come tourney time.

[futureknight25]

jackson in my opinion will take the federal league this year. i dnt see too many teams that are going to be able to stop the two bigs. i got to see igner play this summer and i have to say he impressed me a lot. glenoak will come in second but i wouldnt sleep on boardman mck or hoover. this year in the feds will be WAY more competitive than last year because of the balance of talent and various matchups. i havent been on here in a while but i heard that storm sanders was thinking about transferring to st v. I heard this from one of his teammates so im not sure where thats heading but it seems like this rumour resurfaces every year.

[bryan21]

jackson in my opinion will take the federal league this year. i dnt see too many teams that are going to be able to stop the two bigs. i got to see igner play this summer and i have to say he impressed me a lot. glenoak will come in second but i wouldnt sleep on boardman mck or hoover. this year in the feds will be WAY more competitive than last year because of the balance of talent and various matchups. i havent been on here in a while but i heard that storm sanders was thinking about transferring to st v. I heard this from one of his teammates so im not sure where thats heading but it seems like this rumour resurfaces every year.

Yea i heard the same thing about storm tryin to go to svsm.

Doubt it will happen tho. Grades arent good enough and he isnt a LeBron.

Its Egner by the way :cool:

[futureknight25]

BRYAN21

VOICAN!! isn't a post player he is a 2 or 3 GUARD he just happens to be 6'6 you won't ever see him in the post unless there is a mis-match other wise he will be on the wing. Perry has 3 or 4 post players. Derek Burkhoulder 6'7 Jr. Jordan Humphrey 6'6 Fr. an still growing, 6'4 Steven Roe Soph. , And Josh Tormasi 6'3 Sr. undersized post player but scraps an plays hard defense.

tormasi is only 6"1 and jordan humphries is 6"4

[itsa3]

They certainly ARE lacking in size for a D-I program. GlenOak guards will have LOTS of pressure on them to have BIG seasons.

Any size on the freshman or JV's from last season that can be brought up?

Glen Oaks guards have relied heavily on throwing it underneath to the "bigs". When you have the talent that they have had underneath, it is alot different suddenly having pressure on you. Being left alone to shoot threes because you have great bigs is not too hard guys. But put someone in your face and it's a whole different deal. Sanders and McCollum will be athletic enough to drive to the hole and score. Hpwever without a big to dish to they will have to go through 2 guys. Tough to do. Jacksons bigs are too much I think for everyone. Their supporting cast is nothing spectacular but it doesn't take much help to get it to 2 6'8" guys. If the big guys get in foul trouble, Jackson has troubles. But Federal league is not exactly a dominant league this year so they should roll.

[futureknight25]

Glen Oaks guards have relied heavily on throwing it underneath to the "bigs". When you have the talent that they have had underneath, it is alot different suddenly having pressure on you. Being left alone to shoot threes because you have great bigs is not too hard guys. But put someone in your face and it's a whole different deal. Sanders and McCollum will be athletic enough to drive to the hole and score. Hpwever without a big to dish to they will have to go through 2 guys. Tough to do. Jacksons bigs are too much I think for everyone. Their supporting cast is nothing spectacular but it doesn't take much help to get it to 2 6'8" guys. If the big guys get in foul trouble, Jackson has troubles. But Federal league is not exactly a dominant league this year so they should roll.

GlenOak didn't have any "bigs" last year so they are used to life without koufos.

[futureknight25]

Glen Oaks guards have relied heavily on throwing it underneath to the "bigs". When you have the talent that they have had underneath, it is alot different suddenly having pressure on you. Being left alone to shoot threes because you have great bigs is not too hard guys. But put someone in your face and it's a whole different deal. Sanders and McCollum will be athletic enough to drive to the hole and score. Hpwever without a big to dish to they will have to go through 2 guys. Tough to do. Jacksons bigs are too much I think for everyone. Their supporting cast is nothing spectacular but it doesn't take much help to get it to 2 6'8" guys. If the big guys get in foul trouble, Jackson has troubles. But Federal league is not exactly a dominant league this year so they should roll.

GlenOak didn't have any "bigs" last year so they are used to life without koufos.

[bryan21]

GlenOak didn't have any "bigs" last year so they are used to life without koufos.

your right, glenoak didnt have any bigs at all last year. But this year they have one TRUE post player in Jimmy. Jimmy really worked on his game this offseason and i think he will eventually open things up a little for CJ and the rest of the guards. He wont contend with the Jackson bigs dont get me wrong, but with the rest of the league he should do pretty well.

The glenoak guards went from spotting up and hitting the kick out 3's from Kosta to having to create shots on their own. They had a year to get use to that so i think they should be fine.

[aauplayer]

Everybody keeps talking about Jackson and GlenOak and everybody overlooks Hoover. They have a lot of kids back from last year as they played a lot of people. They are bigger than most people realize and will be able to create mismatches.
Also Monty does a good job and except for GlenOak the Federal League schedule favors them.

[mtownscout]

Perry just got a 6'10 15 year old Soph transfer Dallas Harper from St.V he played JV for St.V last year and he was around 6'6 he has grown alot I haven't seen him play since last year. He lives in Perry now with his mom.

[Jordan9]

HH, A little help,I heard 2 players got a couple of games suspension and the coach got one for a hazing incident at camp this summer how will this effect the spartans run at a fed title? Both are starters don't know names...

[HoopHound]

HH, A little help,I heard 2 players got a couple of games suspension and the coach got one for a hazing incident at camp this summer how will this effect the spartans run at a fed title? Both are starters don't know names...

I was unaware of these incidents you're mentioning, J9. :confused: Hazing hasn't ever been much of an issue in the Youngstown area.... :shrug:

I'll see if I can find anything out. I know that Jim Goske would NEVER put up with any nonsense like that. I'll post in here if I am able to learn anything.

[Jordan9]

http://forums.vindy.com/read.php?1,308535 here is the link to a blog i was told to read by someone who has knowledge of the alleged acts. pretty bad stuff if true. Hopefully not the case.

[HoopHound]

http://forums.vindy.com/read.php?1,308535 here is the link to a blog i was told to read by someone who has knowledge of the alleged acts. pretty bad stuff if true. Hopefully not the case.

Very disturbing stuff IF true, J9. The key word is "IF".

Some of those Vindy posts (from your link) were about as clear as mud, as far as when and where this all supposedly happened. Nothing specific about the basketball team except the references to the "basketball coach".

I think we all know that politics DOES drive the wagon out at Boardman. LOTS of people with LOTS of agendas... few of which include the overall success of the program.

I know absolutely nothing about the Stitt guy they're lambasting in those posts, but I do know one thing for certain... I've been familiar with Jim Goske and his coaching as well as academic career since his high school playing days at BHS. I'm also somewhat acquainted with his parents, both top-notch individuals.

If the facts given are accurate, I'll be extremely disappointed in JG.

That being said... I'm gonna need a TON more information before I'll believe this is true of JG.

It's kind of ironic... their old coach (the one around a LONG time) had some personal issues. A story about him involved in something like this would have been absolutely no surprise. He never knew (or cared) what was happening with his players.

Nothing could be further from the truth concerning Jim Goske (or his predecessor Jared Cardillo) as far as I'm concerned. BOTH are fine young men.

[eml2700]

Perry just got a 6'10 15 year old Soph transfer Dallas Harper from St.V he played JV for St.V last year and he was around 6'6 he has grown alot I haven't seen him play since last year. He lives in Perry now with his mom.

Really, I had heard nothing of this. Thats interesting, only a sophmore, but with that size should be able to contribute this year.

[Shady29]

HH, I'm afraid this is true. Freshman hazing, which does happen...and yeah. A few starters were reprimanded, and in addition... rumor is Dev'ron Martin isn't playing this year for the Spartans. Anybody hear anything on him?

[BIG ED]

Wow, mtownscout, how reliable is this info or do you have first hand knowledge of this?

[futureknight25]

Wow, mtownscout, how reliable is this info or do you have first hand knowledge of this?

it is very reliable info...dallas used to go to perry then transferred to st. v...ive heard from many ppl that this is true

[HoopHound]

HH, I'm afraid this is true. Freshman hazing, which does happen...and yeah. A few starters were reprimanded, and in addition... rumor is Dev'ron Martin isn't playing this year for the Spartans. Anybody hear anything on him?

Looks now as if the Spartans may not be as deep and competitive as it seemed looking at their roster from last year.

Hopefully, Martin's absence is for reasons other than what they appear to be on the surface. :Ohno:

I absolutely despise hazing and see absolutely NO good reason for it. I had a friend from Florida who's son went through a terrible ordeal as a frosh that drove him to another school. Fortunately, the young man was able to put the abuse aside in his life, and was able to finish a hoops career at another school before playing college ball.

Keep us advised of any additional information made public concerning this mess out in Boardman.

[HoopHound]

BTW...

Since the Federal League doesn't have a website, any links to individual members' websites that actually list scores, skeds, and stats would be helpful to all Fed fans as well as those who follow the conference across our state.

I know that the GCL & GMC sites (among quite a few others) make it great to follow those schools and conferences clear down in SWO.

If your school's site is what I consider a "stagnant" one (seldom updated), don't bother linking it.

I continue to be amazed that a conference like the FL doesn't have an all-sports site with schedules, rosters, and stats. :confused:

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to find and link these sites to this thread!! :cool:

[BIG ED]

I found out today that Dallas is now a student at Perry. Great addition for Coach Toth and the Panthers.

[eml2700]

I found out today that Dallas is now a student at Perry. Great addition for Coach Toth and the Panthers.

That is good news, they should have some good height and talent, should be interesting. I have no clue how good this kid is, as I have not seen him play, but if he is around 6'9 that is good to have regardless.

[Jordan9]

HH, Found out that D Martin is in the fold at Boardman no worry's there in spartan land also 2 players did get a couple games for a hazing problem at eastern ohio camp. Non fed games is the word. Coach G got a game for not riding the bus back from camp. All is well in boardman. They will move past the ugly hazing and be fine.

[aauplayer]

Who will play the point for Boardman this year. With JT, Martin and Pesta they have people that can score but who will handle the ball and get them in their offense.

[HoopHound]

HH, Found out that D Martin is in the fold at Boardman no worry's there in spartan land also 2 players did get a couple games for a hazing problem at eastern ohio camp. Non fed games is the word. Coach G got a game for not riding the bus back from camp. All is well in boardman. They will move past the ugly hazing and be fine.

Thanks, J9.

Funny that you posted that today...

Over coffee this morning, I heard pretty heard everything backing up what you posted. I'm relieved that the incident was a bit over-blown, and the hazing while it indeed happened, was nothing like the stories that were going around.

As far as your statement about Goske not riding the bus... he certainly knows better than that. :wallbang:

I'm betting nothing will EVER happen again regarding player hazing OR the head coach's rightful place on the team bus.

[Jordan9]

HH, The stories are correct the young man who was hazed the worst is still dealing from the fall out. His parents want him to attend another school. It was bad. One of the players was held down and had arm pits and eyebrows shaved he is handling it much better. I am surprised Boardman adminastation has not reported this to the state. I thought they put in place last year a strict hazing policy. Maybe thats why they are not calling this a hazing incident. What i heard from the parents this was hazing and handled poorly by the coach's. My buddy's son played for cardillo and he told me this would never happen because cardillo was allway's around. Coach G hope you learned from this one.......

[SteelValley]

I would guess Karzmer will be the point. I think he will be the one weakness in the Boardman starting lineup, w/ the other 4-Soller, Pesta, Moore, and Martin all being potential All-Fed caliber guys. Karzmer plays hard, but he is very undersized and seemed to really struggle both covering and bringing the ball up against the Federal League point guards. Hopefully they have another option, but I don't think there is one, so more than likely he will start. They really just need him to be efficient in what he does and not turn the ball over w/ the scorers they have.

[ohiosportsnut01]

yes dallas harper did transfer but will not get on the varsity floor.....very uncordinated and can't do much.....look for them to try n groom him up and use him next year.

[Jordan9]

Chase Hammond 6'5 junior out for football season and maybe basketball blew his akle out in his first play on D in first football game. Had surgery. Big time player over looked last year would have been my 5 Can get up. Great Kid,would have been all fed this year. Has a little brother who can flat out play will be a frosh playing JV. Good Luck Spartans

[Jordan9]

HH, any word about a rumor that Larry Taylor is lurking in the coaching ranks for this year. Ex Jackson Legend

[ohiobballstar]

Not sure what you meant by that but he is still teaching at Jackson.

[HoopHound]

HH, any word about a rumor that Larry Taylor is lurking in the coaching ranks for this year. Ex Jackson Legend

Other than a couple jobs that really weren't a good fit for him earlier this year, I've not heard anything about LT lately. :shrug:

I'd like to see him get another shot. The guy can coach!! :)

[Jordan9]

My father introduced him to me a couple times while watching some games in cbus. Smart guy knows talent.

[yellowandblue]

I think this years federal league will be one of the most balanced leagues around, everynight should be a game to the wire every team is capable of beating each other night in and out.

[futureknight25]

I think this years federal league will be one of the most balanced leagues around, everynight should be a game to the wire every team is capable of beating each other night in and out.

i agree y&b with the exception of one team.

[aauplayer]

I think there are a couple clear cut favorites in the Fed (Hoover and Jackson) however whether they can handle the pressure of being the favorite will determine who wins. Jackson had a good run last year at the end but they were not the favorite and that changes how teams play you.

That does not mean Boardman and GlenOak could not win it it just means if you look at who's returning and how they did this summer those two should be favored early.

I would agree that the league should be fun to watch since there is no clear cut favoriet like there has been the last 4 years (Canton McKinley, GlenOak & Perry). One of the others McKinley, Perry or Lake will sneak up and surprise everybody like Lake did during the season and Jackson did late in the year.

Fitch is better from what I saw this summer but they do not have the talent to compete for the title. It should be fun and I look forward to see who improved the most over the summer.

[futureknight25]

I think there are a couple clear cut favorites in the Fed (Hoover and Jackson) however whether they can handle the pressure of being the favorite will determine who wins. Jackson had a good run last year at the end but they were not the favorite and that changes how teams play you.

That does not mean Boardman and GlenOak could not win it it just means if you look at who's returning and how they did this summer those two should be favored early.

I would agree that the league should be fun to watch since there is no clear cut favoriet like there has been the last 4 years (Canton McKinley, GlenOak & Perry). One of the others McKinley, Perry or Lake will sneak up and surprise everybody like Lake did during the season and Jackson did late in the year.

Fitch is better from what I saw this summer but they do not have the talent to compete for the title. It should be fun and I look forward to see who improved the most over the summer.

This is one of the funniest posts ive read in a while. Ur first sentence was that hoover and jackson are the clear cut favorites then u sed that the league shld be fun to watch since there is no clear cut favorite. :hello:

[Jordan9]

is koblanz still under scholy at akron couple of my buddy's from high school said they played some pick up games at the rec with him. I thought that was a no no for scholarship athletes

[futureknight25]

is koblanz still under scholy at akron couple of my buddy's from high school said they played some pick up games at the rec with him. I thought that was a no no for scholarship athletes

Im pretty sure Coblentz walked-on at UA but ive seen him at the Lake YMCA a bunch of times.

[Jordan9]

thanks

[hs sports fan]

Im pretty sure Coblentz walked-on at UA but ive seen him at the Lake YMCA a bunch of times.

He is a walk-on. http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10800&ATCLID=1304839

[HoopHound]

He is a walk-on. http://www.gozips.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10800&ATCLID=1304839

:dang: :wallbang: I wish he had walked on at YSU. The Penguins always seem to be short on quality 3-ball shooters like Eric Coblentz. At 6'2, he might be a hair to small for most D-1 programs at the 2-spot... but I think he coulda helped YSU and likely got more PT there.

Oh well. :shrug:

[LOUIE 44]

His dad told me he has been red shirted this year at AU.

[Jordan9]

HH, How about Benny Umble (poland) walking on at YSU I can't wait to see him play.

[HoopHound]

HH, How about Benny Umble (poland) walking on at YSU I can't wait to see him play.

The kid's a worker. I hope he's got the body to take the D-1 punishment.

[rizzle46]

yes dallas harper did transfer but will not get on the varsity floor.....very uncordinated and can't do much.....look for them to try n groom him up and use him next year.


I actually know dallas personally, and have played with him and yes he was very uncordinated and needed work...but this summer he went down to atlanta for 2 months to work with his uncle who is a personal trainer, came back a different player...he just needs to get some more muscle on him and this kid could be an animal down low the next couple years, and he is a 6'9 , 225 sophmore and he is very determinded to go out and prove something this year

[HoopHound]

I actually know dallas personally, and have played with him and yes he was very uncordinated and needed work...but this summer he went down to atlanta for 2 months to work with his uncle who is a personal trainer, came back a different player...he just needs to get some more muscle on him and this kid could be an animal down low the next couple years, and he is a 6'9 , 225 sophmore and he is very determinded to go out and prove something this year

Who will this kid be playing for again? :confused:

I've lost track.:blush:

[eml2700]

Who will this kid be playing for again? :confused:

I've lost track.:blush:

Perry.

[HoopHound]

Perry.

Thanks, eml... it's obvious that I'm tryng to follow FAR too many basketball players across the state. :help:

The ol' hounddog's brain spins around sometimes with over-use. :blush: