Cincinnati Aiken and Cincinnati Hughes jobs?

[rackball21]

any word on who is up for the Aiken or Hughes Basketball Coaching jobs?
what happened at Hughes? didnt they hold interviews?

[withrownatiboy]

I know that tyrice gibert , a withrow assistant, is a finalist. I don't know anything else though

[CHLnumber1]

I know that tyrice gibert , a withrow assistant, is a finalist. I don't know anything else though

i thought his name was tyrone gibert, and he was an assistant at aiken

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

i thought his name was tyrone gibert, and he was an assistant at aiken

You're correct on both statements. He was also an assistant at Withrow when Gentry was the head coach.

Is he a finalist at Aiken or Hughes?

[voice_of_reason]

Are all the players staying at Aiken?
What about the assistant coach that coaches AAU ball for the Knights?

[CHLnumber1]

Gibert and Gentery are both great coaches. but i think that Gibert will be first on both of these schools lists because he is an all around coach, on and off the court. he know ofense defense, how to win, and most importantly how to keep these kids out of trouble and get them into college, as far as the coach for the knight go i've never heard of him

[alhadee]

Can you tell me who Tyrone Gilbert has sent to college and what kids did he keep out of trouble? Leon is an assistant at Aiken and coaches with the Knights.

[CHLnumber1]

who has he sent to college? Chris knight, matt pilgrim, anthony mcbride, Dante Love(went for football tho), and many more. and who has he kept out of trouble? name one player that has played under him and u have heard about getting in trouble. and as far as leon goes yea he helped aiken out last year, but he's no coach.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

who has he sent to college? Chris knight, matt pilgrim, anthony mcbride, Dante Love(went for football tho), and many more. and who has he kept out of trouble? name one player that has played under him and u have heard about getting in trouble. and as far as leon goes yea he helped aiken out last year, but he's no coach.

Gibert nor Gentry didn't send McBride to college. They were long gone before that one happened. And Gentry didn't send Knight to college, either, from what I've heard. :shrug:

And former Withrow FB Head coach Doc Gamble helped Love get to college, like so many of his other players.

[CHLnumber1]

ok first of all gentry and gibert coached mcbride at withrow, second knight didnt go to colege right away but he did go thanks to things he learned from gentry and gibert and Doc did help love get into college

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

ok first of all gentry and gibert coached mcbride at withrow, second knight didnt go to colege right away but he did go thanks to things he learned from gentry and gibert and Doc did help love get into college

COACHING McBride during their tenure as well as TEACHING Knight are far cries from ACTUALLY GETTING these two players into COLLEGE. Unfortunately, Gentry's track record in this area is pretty dismal. Gibert hasn't had to prove himself necessarily, in this respect. Hopefully, if Gibert does become the head coach at either school, he will step up his efforts in seeing that his players go on to have at least, a successful head start in their collegiate careers.

[CHLnumber1]

i think that Gibert can and will do that

[NorrisHopper30]

Will Behanan be transferring from Aiken?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

i think that Gibert can and will do that

And this point, I would agree with you. I always thought he brought a different level of passion, skill and standards to his teams than Gentry. JMHO. :angel:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Will Behanan be transferring from Aiken?

Great question. I wondered the same if Gibert went to Hughes as head coach.

[JElder]

Great question. I wondered the same if Gibert went to Hughes as head coach.

For whatever it's worth, I was told by a player for Aiken that the team is staying together. This was a few weeks ago at XU's Elite Camp though...

[Coach Vic]

I talked to Chane at the Adidas it Takes 5. He told me he is staying at Aiken and that he looks forward to playing against Columbus Northland at the Schott Classic. He is a very nice kid to talk too. I think he is a special player and person.

[alhadee]

Unfortunately TY hasn't sent anyone to school at all. Gentry luck hasn't been better, most of his kids where helped by AAU coaches. I had at least two college coaches ask me what type of program is Gentry running and based upon discipline issues they were not willing to take a kid from his program. Hopefully these kids will get the academic support from the new coach instead of cancelling study table consistently.

[CHLnumber1]

i'm sayin it now and im gonna stick to this. if Ty gets the Aiken job then aiken will be competing on a new level. thet will have the skill, coaching, and discipline that they need to be a better team. i hope TY gets the job

[carolina]

allhadee what do you have against Gentry and Gilbert. Sound like you have an axe to grind or something. You are going on a bunch of hearsay. All the aau coaches say they got somebody in college. they have gotten kids in college

[alhadee]

I don't like the fact that TY has disrespected and called several kids out there names which is not a positive method in coaching. I'm not going on heresay, but first hand observation. Also, Gentry is not forthright and honest. I do believe he got a raw deal at Withrow to a certain extent, but at Aiken he did not help to serve the kids academically.

We are in an age when young African-American men needs strong mentorship and guidance. They also need to be placed in a situation where they can suceed academically so that they can move forward without basketball. I agree this is not all Gentry's fault, but he should be more of an advocate for the kids academically.

CPS is a hot bed for academic failure, but high hopes for the NBA. We all know that 95% or better will not be OJ Mayo, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, etc. What do we give them to fall back on, if the coaches that spend alot of time with them do not guide them and help push them to graduate and go to college regardless of basketball. These kids need help with life lessons, whose more likely to provide that besides their parents, the coaches.

In the end there is no grudge or axe to grind, just being honest through personal observation as well as converation with people that are looking to bring a kid to their school.

[hoop.scoop]

Hughes made their hire last week. New coach met with the kids on Friday.

New guy will be phys ed teacher to.

[tucker]

what is his name?

[hoop.scoop]

No clue

[psax889906]

So Behanan IS staying at Aiken?...

[JElder]

So Behanan IS staying at Aiken?...

Yes!

[cphslFan]

hoop scoop

where is this coach from?

[mikeinclifton]

Hughes made their hire last week. New coach met with the kids on Friday.

New guy will be phys ed teacher to.

From the Cin Enquirer today -
Hughes has named Bryan Wyant as its new boys' varsity basketball coach, Hughes athletic director Jolinda Miller said via e-mail. Wyant was an assistant coach at Mount Vernon Nazarene University (Mount Vernon, Ohio) the past two years and also played basketball at the school. Miller described Wyant as, "Very enthusiastic, wizard at X's and O's, and is a real gym rat ... will bring a new basketball presence to Hughes."

[CHLnumber1]

I don't like the fact that TY has disrespected and called several kids out there names which is not a positive method in coaching. I'm not going on heresay, but first hand observation. Also, Gentry is not forthright and honest. I do believe he got a raw deal at Withrow to a certain extent, but at Aiken he did not help to serve the kids academically.

We are in an age when young African-American men needs strong mentorship and guidance. They also need to be placed in a situation where they can suceed academically so that they can move forward without basketball. I agree this is not all Gentry's fault, but he should be more of an advocate for the kids academically.

CPS is a hot bed for academic failure, but high hopes for the NBA. We all know that 95% or better will not be OJ Mayo, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, etc. What do we give them to fall back on, if the coaches that spend alot of time with them do not guide them and help push them to graduate and go to college regardless of basketball. These kids need help with life lessons, whose more likely to provide that besides their parents, the coaches.

In the end there is no grudge or axe to grind, just being honest through personal observation as well as converation with people that are looking to bring a kid to their school.

delete your account

[withrownatiboy]

http://www.mvnu.edu/sports/nazmbb/history/04/roster/wyant.html

considering he wasn't a star in college, he had to have earned the respect of the staff at MVNU, a highly regarded NAIA school. However, i've never heard of Elida, and MVNU is demographically and geographically miles away from the CMAC, which could suggest a possible culture shock for Wyant. I wish him and Hughes the best.

Now back to worryin about Aiken, who with the right coach (think how Mitch brought TA from the ashes) SHOULD be the favorites to win the conference next year.

[alhadee]

CHL delete your account, that's the problem with some individuals they are not looking out for the kids, just themselves.

[alhadee]

Withrow, I wonder if there will be a commute issue. That was one of the problems with the previous coach.

[rackball21]

wow I am shocked! Hughes had some great people interview for that job who would have done a great job. So how much coaching experience does he have looks like he was still playing in 06? Not sure about this one... hopefully he will stay for more than a year....
From the Cin Enquirer today -
Hughes has named Bryan Wyant as its new boys' varsity basketball coach, Hughes athletic director Jolinda Miller said via e-mail. Wyant was an assistant coach at Mount Vernon Nazarene University (Mount Vernon, Ohio) the past two years and also played basketball at the school. Miller described Wyant as, "Very enthusiastic, wizard at X's and O's, and is a real gym rat ... will bring a new basketball presence to Hughes."

[rackball21]

As far as these kids go... TY had nothing to do with Dante Love playing football I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY!!!!AND FROM WHAT I AM TOLD FROM A FAMILY MEMBER..He had NOTHING to do with Matt Pilgrim going to prep school first then to Hampton then to Ky NOthing!!! Didn't Anthony only play for them for 2 years.? I know everyone wants a plug for the job but lets be truthful and consistent on this blog... please!!!!



who has he sent to college? Chris knight, matt pilgrim, anthony mcbride, Dante Love(went for football tho), and many more. and who has he kept out of trouble? name one player that has played under him and u have heard about getting in trouble. and as far as leon goes yea he helped aiken out last year, but he's no coach.

[basketballhead]

i hope coach wyant, jolinda, smith, and moesley the best over there at hughes this upcoming year.. see how they do come early december

[hoop.scoop]

hear the kids really like coach wyant and are happy with the choice

he will be the phys ed teacher at hughes

keeping an assistant coach from last year, dresler

heard hughes is getting a few transfers since word is out on new coach

all i've got

[hoop.scoop]

for alhadee tlaked to someone yesterday that said the old coach had no commute problem but bought a house in Lebanon after he had taken the job at hughes

so commute issue was coaches own doing

new coach is looking for housing around the cps district so wont be a problem

all i've got

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

for alhadee tlaked to someone yesterday that said the old coach had no commute problem but bought a house in Lebanon after he had taken the job at hughes

so commute issue was coaches own doing

new coach is looking for housing around the cps district so wont be a problem

all i've got

What's the word on the Aiken coach?

[hoop.scoop]

heard aiken is reopening position and a possible principle/vice principle is interested in the job

[rackball21]

that is at least one of the rumors I have heard as well.. sadly its almost August and no coach has yet to be chosen...I hope the kids are happy with whomever they get because transferring out of Aiken won't be allowed after the 1st... also how can a principle/vice principal take on a coaching job? the entire school is their responsibility not just the sports program or a a state title...CPS needs to reevaluate their entire program when it comes to hiring coaches. They pass on great talent. that they have right here locally.. post jobs but never hold interviews(hmmm wonder what school did that????)...bring individuals in who have no idea how to relate to the youths, and wonder why kids transfer in and out of schools..sad!!!

heard aiken is reopening position and a possible principle/vice principle is interested in the job

[HoopHound]

Even without a head coach... were the Aiken kids able to get in any summer ball or even open gyms with an asst. running things?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

heard aiken is reopening position and a possible principle/vice principle is interested in the job

That's interesting. I didn't think that an administrator would be allowed to take on a coaching role in CPS. :shrug: Any word on who that administrator would be?

And HH, you bring up an interesting point with open gym for the Aiken players. I do know that Behanon and Goodwin play AAU ball, but what about the other players who aren't on an AAU team? What's been happening with them?

[HoopHound]

...And HH, you bring up an interesting point with open gym for the Aiken players. I do know that Behanon and Goodwin play AAU ball, but what about the other players who aren't on an AAU team? What's been happening with them?

Gettin' rusty restin'. :wallbang:

As I've mentioned in other threads, I'm from the old school. I believe basketball players and their teammates are "made" in the summertime. They're polished during the regular season... but summer is where the hard work and personal sacrifice feeds into a successful season.

By "successful", I don't necessarily mean more wins... I just mean personal improvement and better teamwork. :cool:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Gettin' rusty restin'. :wallbang:

As I've mentioned in other threads, I'm from the old school. I believe basketball players and their teammates are "made" in the summertime. They're polished during the regular season... but summer is where the hard work and personal sacrifice feeds into a successful season.

By "successful", I don't necessarily mean more wins... I just mean personal improvement and better teamwork. :cool:

:cool: ABSOLUTELY! I really hope that Aiken gets their program together. Just because you have one of the top players probably in the country, means NOTHING if his supporting cast isn't up to snuff and they aren't playing as a TEAM. Playing GOOD TEAM BALL trumps INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS all day long.....

[111411]

Gettin' rusty restin'. :wallbang:

As I've mentioned in other threads, I'm from the old school. I believe basketball players and their teammates are "made" in the summertime. They're polished during the regular season... but summer is where the hard work and personal sacrifice feeds into a successful season.

By "successful", I don't necessarily mean more wins... I just mean personal improvement and better teamwork. :cool:


Where I come from, the hard work is done at the "courts," where former and current players compete against each other day and night.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Where I come from, the hard work is done at the "courts," where former and current players compete against each other day and night.

:cool: True dat, 11411---UNFORTUNATELY, in some of the neighborhoods these kids come from, old school play on the courts can be VERY dangerous and the school gym is a safe haven. There was an incident earlier this summer in Cincy where a 16-year old kid was shot because he beat this 19-year old in a pick up game on a neighborhood court. :eek: :wallbang: Go figure, man. :Ohno:

[freshmenbballer21]

Aiken has participated in summer league bball has not missed a day of working out thanks to Coach Leon.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Aiken has participated in summer league bball has not missed a day of working out thanks to Coach Leon.

:thumb: GOOD TO HEAR!

[peanut]

That's interesting. I didn't think that an administrator would be allowed to take on a coaching role in CPS. :shrug: Any word on who that administrator would be?

And HH, you bring up an interesting point with open gym for the Aiken players. I do know that Behanon and Goodwin play AAU ball, but what about the other players who aren't on an AAU team? What's been happening with them?

ERIC THOMAS

[HoopHound]

:thumb: GOOD TO HEAR!

Amen.

I'd guess Coach Leon is an asst.? :shrug:

Whoever he is.... he done good. :cool:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

ERIC THOMAS

He's the PRINCIPAL. I'm sure you can't be an administrator, esp. the HEAD ADMINISTRATOR and be a COACH at the same time! :eek: HE!! CPS Athletic Directors are NOT supposed to serve as head coaches either, so I'm VERY interested in seeing how they get around this one...that is...IF this RUMOR is TRUE.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Amen.

I'd guess Coach Leon is an asst.? :shrug:

Whoever he is.... he done good. :cool:

Yeah, he is the asst. and Behanon's "guardian" or something like that? :shrug:
Nevertheless, kudos to him for keeping the program afloat!

[redskinfbco92]

He's the PRINCIPAL. I'm sure you can't be an administrator, esp. the HEAD ADMINISTRATOR and be a COACH at the same time! :eek: HE!! CPS Athletic Directors are NOT supposed to serve as head coaches either, so I'm VERY interested in seeing how they get around this one...that is...IF this RUMOR is TRUE.

I'd guess they'd go ask the Withrow AD how he does it

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

I'd guess they'd go ask the Withrow AD how he does it

Does what?

[redskinfbco92]

Coach and be the AD

[withrownatiboy]

track and basketball are two different things, and Braddix is generally deferential to his assistants

[withrownatiboy]

Coach Leon = Jimmy Leon, nee of Woodward?

[redskinfbco92]

track and basketball are two different things, and Braddix is generally deferential to his assistants

:rolleyes: Why are they two different things? And come on with your second statement - you can do better than that

[withrownatiboy]

can't you just let me instantly defend the 'Row without thinking about it?

[rackball21]

Well that definitely concerns me ... why would a principal want to coach when he is responsible for the entire school? Does having the possibility of a chance at a title mean that much? sounds a little like ego-itis to me... As a parent I am seeing more and more that the school administrators do not have the kids best interest at heart.... I know he had to have some candidates who were more than qualified for the job stop the madness and choose a coach! I am sure the kids nor their parents are happy with this snails pace decision...

ERIC THOMAS

[peanut]

Well that definitely concerns me ... why would a principal want to coach when he is responsible for the entire school? Does having the possibility of a chance at a title mean that much? sounds a little like ego-itis to me... As a parent I am seeing more and more that the school administrators do not have the kids best interest at heart.... I know he had to have some candidates who were more than qualified for the job stop the madness and choose a coach! I am sure the kids nor their parents are happy with this snails pace decision...

I personally don't think that will happen but a few have thrown his name out there at Aiken, he has not squashed these rumors....not even a lil bit. He was the Head Coach at Aiken in the late 90's. ( did pretty good by the way) But nothing suprises me bout that good ole CPS way of doin thangs:wallbang:

[rackball21]

you are right peanut cps has a way of bending rules for specific individuals. I as a graduate of a cps school and parent of a cps student have witnessed many unethical procedures in the sports programs. For the kids sake I just would hope someone can coach the team who really has the kids best interest at heart. a good season AND success in academics. In my opinion when a coach doesn't do his part it is also a reflection of the adminstrators and teachers. He may have did well in the late 90s but the kids now are different. what worked in the past may not be so successful in the future.


I personally don't think that will happen but a few have thrown his name out there at Aiken, he has not squashed these rumors....not even a lil bit. He was the Head Coach at Aiken in the late 90's. ( did pretty good by the way) But nothing suprises me bout that good ole CPS way of doin thangs:wallbang:

[alhadee]

I heard the former Woodward coach Jimmy Leon will take over the program.

[rackball21]

Interesting........ I am not knocking him but what he helped to acheive at woodward in the late 80's and 90's is not enough for me to think he can produce a great team at Aiken, ie Clark ..nothing spectacular done there and... the kids stayed in alot of trouble remember the Cintas incident? or how about the ineligible players... what was done to get their academics together?? CPS has to stop looking at what people did in the past.... We are in the NOW!!!!!. I am tired of Coaches being chosen because of who he/she knows and not what he/she knows how to do... Many coaches ride the coat tails of one of two players and turn a blind eye to the rest of the Team. We need coaches who are concerned throughout the year not just the baskeball season. Then maybe I won't see so many potential athletes walking the streets of their neighborhoods doing absolutely nothing...:mad:

I heard the former Woodward coach Jimmy Leon will take over the program.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Interesting........ I am not knocking him but what he helped to acheive at woodward in the late 80's and 90's is not enough for me to think he can produce a great team at Aiken, ie Clark ..nothing spectacular done there and... the kids stayed in alot of trouble remember the Cintas incident? or how about the ineligible players... what was done to get their academics together?? CPS has to stop looking at what people did in the past.... We are in the NOW!!!!!. I am tired of Coaches being chosen because of who he/she knows and not what he/she knows how to do... Many coaches ride the coat tails of one of two players and turn a blind eye to the rest of the Team. We need coaches who are concerned throughout the year not just the baskeball season. Then maybe I won't see so many potential athletes walking the streets of their neighborhoods doing absolutely nothing...:mad:

EXCELLENT POINT, rackball.
However, in slight defense of Coach Leon--he did come in and have a modicum of success given what he has been working with. The Clark administration is not exactly noted for their support of the athletic program. :wallbang: Also---the incident at Cintas involving a Clark player had nothing to DO with that player. He (the player) was among a couple of kids arrested for just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. :shrug: I do know his case was thrown out because there was no evidence of any wrong doing on his part.

If this is true about Coach Leon taking over the Aiken program, it will be interesting to see what he does.

[rackball21]

:stirthepot: I agree but I can't help but wonder if its all a methodically designed plan... :-)
we''ll see but my gut tells me there is a rhyme and a reason to JL possibly getting the position and it evolves around one kid and one school who wants first dibs later (hmmmmm).... I hope I am proven wrong but .... I been around a long time and you cant teach old dogs new tricks.....



EXCELLENT POINT, rackball.
However, in slight defense of Coach Leon--he did come in and have a modicum of success given what he has been working with. The Clark administration is not exactly noted for their support of the athletic program. :wallbang: Also---the incident at Cintas involving a Clark player had nothing to DO with that player. He (the player) was among a couple of kids arrested for just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. :shrug: I do know his case was thrown out because there was no evidence of any wrong doing on his part.

If this is true about Coach Leon taking over the Aiken program, it will be interesting to see what he does.

[ohscout]

Any word? Is this a done deal?

[tooloo328]

Hey peeps. i'm new to this, but i did want to jump in, and add a little. i'm a graduate of aiken, and i played as well. I do see a lot of things different from when i went there. Sports at aiken was a proud place, and now it seems that Grades are as important anymore. MY son also plays and i've decided to let him play for Roger Bacon. He's a wonderful playersand i love the way they strees academics. that should be the most important focus as well as the talent to excel. Has name is Jorian Hudson and i would have really loved for him to play at the place i learned how to grind it out. such a shame. i grew up with both guys, and maybe if you guys express how you feel to them, they may grab hold of it.

[rackball21]

I heard that a decision was supposed to be made today but... I haven't heard anything... I dont get it the kids have already been railroaded into staying at Aiken its the 1st of August (no transfers after this date unless move out of district) being a former female athlete I just don't remember decisions taking this long unless there was somthing greasy to the whole decision.. hey I gotta keep it real:shrug:

Any word? Is this a done deal?

[rackball21]

:mad: Applause to you for placing an emphasis on academics RB is a great school brother graduated from their and did great things professionally in sports overseas..:-) I remember when coaches were about their whole team not just being the one who could wear the I-found-this-kid-superman S on their chest. I have seen so many coaches put all their eggs into one player and forget that they have an entire team to coach... the goal of a high school coach is this: TO DEVELOP ATHLETES SO THAT THEY CAN COMPETE AND EXCEL AT A COLLEGIATE LEVEL AND BEYOND. ... I see many coaches treating this sport like their meal ticket to success will happen through one or two kids then when they don't pan out they leave where they found them(I can name many).



Hey peeps. i'm new to this, but i did want to jump in, and add a little. i'm a graduate of aiken, and i played as well. I do see a lot of things different from when i went there. Sports at aiken was a proud place, and now it seems that Grades are as important anymore. MY son also plays and i've decided to let him play for Roger Bacon. He's a wonderful playersand i love the way they strees academics. that should be the most important focus as well as the talent to excel. Has name is Jorian Hudson and i would have really loved for him to play at the place i learned how to grind it out. such a shame. i grew up with both guys, and maybe if you guys express how you feel to them, they may grab hold of it.

[tooloo328]

well, thanks. Dont get me wrong, i would love for the CPS sports programs to do well. I learned a lot about life, and how to deal with college life. RB isn't without its issues. It sometimes can be very political, but i believe that the cream always rises to the top. I'm very proud of my son and what he has blossomed into. But student athlete means, sports as well as grades. right? So will the CPS coaches develope great student athletes?

[GCLHoops]

well, thanks. Dont get me wrong, i would love for the CPS sports programs to do well. I learned a lot about life, and how to deal with college life. RB isn't without its issues. It sometimes can be very political, but i believe that the cream always rises to the top. I'm very proud of my son and what he has blossomed into. But student athlete means, sports as well as grades. right? So will the CPS coaches develope great student athletes?


How about the parents developing the the student part and the coaches will develop the athlete part. Granted, the coaches can influence the academic part. But, if parents would do their job... then there wouldn't be that many issues with academics.

[rackball21]

I agree with you... parents must be the biggest influence in their children. HOWEVER... we can not overlook the fact that coaches have a responsibility to ensure the athletes they are "developing" are also attending class... for instance do you feel its okay to play an athlete who is good but is knowingly cutting class and is failing? Or should that coach puts his ego aside and bench the players that are not handling their business.. when it comes to children everyone plays a part in developing a student to be the best he or she can be.... I am not throwing blame ... I am one of those parents who is proactively involved with every aspect of my childs life school, sports, social etc. and I think its a very broad statement to assume that the parents are not involved.Granted their are some situations where the parents are not doing what they are supposed to do... SHAME ON THEM!!!..... but I can't turn a blind eye to what I see many teachers and coaches doing... ie allowing kids to play who are not academically eligible. SHAME ON THEM ALSO!!!



How about the parents developing the the student part and the coaches will develop the athlete part. Granted, the coaches can influence the academic part. But, if parents would do their job... then there wouldn't be that many issues with academics.

[rackball21]

totally agree with you and I know it can be political. CPS coaches will develope great student athletes when they realize it is more to coaching than just finding the next best thing and winning a title... in my opinion EGO has jaded more than a few.....



well, thanks. Dont get me wrong, i would love for the CPS sports programs to do well. I learned a lot about life, and how to deal with college life. RB isn't without its issues. It sometimes can be very political, but i believe that the cream always rises to the top. I'm very proud of my son and what he has blossomed into. But student athlete means, sports as well as grades. right? So will the CPS coaches develope great student athletes?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

I agree with you... parents must be the biggest influence in their children. HOWEVER... we can not overlook the fact that coaches have a responsibility to ensure the athletes they are "developing" are also attending class... for instance do you feel its okay to play an athlete who is good but is knowingly cutting class and is failing? Or should that coach puts his ego aside and bench the players that are not handling their business.. when it comes to children everyone plays a part in developing a student to be the best he or she can be.... I am not throwing blame ... I am one of those parents who is proactively involved with every aspect of my childs life school, sports, social etc. and I think its a very broad statement to assume that the parents are not involved.Granted their are some situations where the parents are not doing what they are supposed to do... SHAME ON THEM!!!..... but I can't turn a blind eye to what I see many teachers and coaches doing... ie allowing kids to play who are not academically eligible. SHAME ON THEM ALSO!!!

:clap: :clap: Brotha RB---you're on point for this and the previous post.

There are and have been FAR TOO MANY coaches who put "W's" before ACADEMICS and this isn't regulated to the CMAC league either. I'm from the OLD SCHOOL---a player can't go to class? Then that player can't play BB, FB, baseball or even TIDDLY WINKS....I don't CARE. :wallbang: Parent(s) or coaches, ADULTS have be RESPONSIBLE and set the EXPECTATIONS much HIGHER.

[taftwit]

I need somebody to help me out with this.. so a kid that goes to taft and wants to go to aiken right now as of AUG-2 can't go because of the rule.

[rackball21]

That is correct Taftwit... per the rule no kid can transfer after august 1st ...maybe through a petition but its unlikely. However if a kid moved out of district lets say to princeton they could be transferred.



I need somebody to help me out with this.. so a kid that goes to taft and wants to go to aiken right now as of AUG-2 can't go because of the rule.

[taftwit]

Thank you. Rackball21

[rackball21]

Hey just wanted to let everyone know I ran into an administrator at Clark who basically said J. Leon was taking the job at Aiken... he just didnt know why it had not been announced yet.... hmmmm whats really going on with this? :confused:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Hey just wanted to let everyone know I ran into an administrator at Clark who basically said J. Leon was taking the job at Aiken... he just didnt know why it had not been announced yet.... hmmmm whats really going on with this? :confused:

That's VERY interesting! Who was the administrator at Clark, if you can say...?

[rackball21]

well...I didnt want to involve this person in the rumor mill however he told me this at church today... not sure he would lie considering the circumstances:)
and he was just as puzzled as to why the announcement had not been made especially when that has been the buzz around the water cooler...what is your opinion on why it is taking this long to name a coach.. I am all out of possiblilities...


That's VERY interesting! Who was the administrator at Clark, if you can say...?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

well...I didnt want to involve this person in the rumor mill however he told me this at church today... not sure he would lie considering the circumstances:)
and he was just as puzzled as to why the announcement had not been made especially when that has been the buzz around the water cooler...what is your opinion on why it is taking this long to name a coach.. I am all out of possiblilities...

Well, from my experience, usually SOME communications to the press and ALL communications to parents are left up to the administration. With that being said, if the administration wanted to leave players and parents in the DARK for fear they would TRANSFER to other CPS schools for whatever reason, I could see the delay in announcing this coaching move. And that would be on the parts of Aiken (who has more to lose) and Clark (who also has been losing students to Withrow and Walnut, namely.)

[Mercury]

That is correct Taftwit... per the rule no kid can transfer after august 1st ...maybe through a petition but its unlikely. However if a kid moved out of district lets say to princeton they could be transferred.

This is not exactly true. Kids still have untill 8/19 to transfer if they chose to. Not quite sure where your 8/1 date is coming from. Bylaw 4-7-6 states that eligibility will be reinstated if 4 conditions are met. The main condition that everyone is hung up on is that the student must be re-assigned to the high school by the district as a result of re-districting or a specific change of program. Just about every high school has different academic programs. I don't think it would be too difficult for a kid from Aiken College and Career H.S. to transfer to say a College Prep Program like Walnut Hills. They have put guidelines in place. Kids can still transfer but it can't be for Athletic reasons and if a parent states that it is for such in writing how can it be proven different? I don't believe much will change by way of transfers.

[rackball21]

Thanks Mercury but I guess I wasn't clear I was referring to transferring and still being able to play sports I dont think they can after aug 1st . Sounds like you were talking about an academic transfer.. my issue is holding the kids in limbo who play sports and they still do not know who there coaches are going to be....I know for a fact players have had to petition to play when they transferred schools after aug 1st... but who knows ohsaa probably bends the rules when they are ready depending on the player in question:shrug:


This is not exactly true. Kids still have untill 8/19 to transfer if they chose to. Not quite sure where your 8/1 date is coming from. Bylaw 4-7-6 states that eligibility will be reinstated if 4 conditions are met. The main condition that everyone is hung up on is that the student must be re-assigned to the high school by the district as a result of re-districting or a specific change of program. Just about every high school has different academic programs. I don't think it would be too difficult for a kid from Aiken College and Career H.S. to transfer to say a College Prep Program like Walnut Hills. They have put guidelines in place. Kids can still transfer but it can't be for Athletic reasons and if a parent states that it is for such in writing how can it be proven different? I don't believe much will change by way of transfers.

[rackball21]

bylaw 476 definitely reads as if a petition would have to be submitted to reinstate eligibility.... so it cant be that easy as I can't see the commission approving any and everyone who wants to transfer and play

[mikeinclifton]

Is it possible that there are multiple sets of bylaws that need to be looked at?

Just because the OHSAA guidelines are followed doesn't mean the school district's or the school's guidelines are. Is it possible that some may have more stringent guidelines than the OHSAA?

[Mercury]

bylaw 476 definitely reads as if a petition would have to be submitted to reinstate eligibility.... so it cant be that easy as I can't see the commission approving any and everyone who wants to transfer and play

A petition is definitely needed to be submitted by the district to OHSAA. All I'm saying is that I would be suprised if all conditions are met that OHSAA would deny the transfer. I guess we will soon see. Many kids are still transferring.

[ohscout]

Does anyone know when the Leon to Aiken hire will be announced?

[redskin17]

Mercury knows all the loop holes for transfering ;)

[Mercury]

Mercury knows all the loop holes for transfering ;)

What loop holes? Did I mention loop holes? I just clarified the rule. Go back to arguing with taft fans.

[redskin17]

Oh you know the loop holes. don't try and play dumb. Got a new baseball coach yet?

[111411]

Back on topic, gentlemen.

[redskin17]

Transfer in CPS have alot to do with the coach openings

[rackball21]

AGREED AGREED AGREED!!!! AND DONT FORGET COACHING ASSIGNMENTS HAVE ALOT TO DO WITH WHAT "SUPERSTAR" TALENT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO... HMMMMMM!!!


Transfer in CPS have alot to do with the coach openings

[lancersroll]

Does anyone else see the connections. Behannon and UC getting closer and Leon who gave Mick his start is now the coach their. hmmhmhmhhm

[ohscout]

Does anyone else see the connections. Behannon and UC getting closer and Leon who gave Mick his start is now the coach their. hmmhmhmhhm

Has this been officially announced? And if not, any ideas when it will be?

[freshmenbballer21]

Does anyone else see the connections. Behannon and UC getting closer and Leon who gave Mick his start is now the coach their. hmmhmhmhhm

So are you saying that behannon is getting closer to UC so Mr. Leon can secure the coaching position, or that Mick is returning a favor?

[rackball21]

uh ya think??? of course this is strategically mapped out.. come on now really does it take this long to name a coach unless the coach who lets say is 5years from retiring had to weigh his options to leave a somewhat comfortable situation for unchartered waters? I just hope that the kid is not a pawn in their game. There is more to life than his basketball ability for his sake I hope he remains a top contender..otherwise we will see how quickly their backs are turned on players who don't pan out.... CPS will never cease to amaze me... ps what if he doesnt want to go to UC??? do you think they thought about that? Somebody is airtight with their gift of gab if they are looking this far ahead...




So are you saying that behannon is getting closer to UC so Mr. Leon can secure the coaching position, or that Mick is returning a favor?

[freshmenbballer21]

Coach Leon Ellison has done a great job with the Aiken team this summer and last year, these boys are finally getting the dicipline they need, they are eager to play, they get along great, and play very well together. I just hope no one is making plans to use Chane (negatively) for thir own personnal gain cause they won't get very far. I've met his mother and know this they will have ---- to pay!!!:mad:

[rackball21]

I agree coach Leon Ellison is doing great... my comments were regarding the possible new coach coming in from clark... will L.E be an assistant????:shrug:

Coach Leon Ellison has done a great job with the Aiken team this summer and last year, these boys are finally getting the dicipline they need, they are eager to play, they get along great, and play very well together. I just hope no one is making plans to use Chane (negatively) for thir own personnal gain cause they won't get very far. I've met his mother and know this they will have ---- to pay!!!:mad:

[freshmenbballer21]

I agree coach Leon Ellison is doing great... my comments were regarding the possible new coach coming in from clark... will L.E be an assistant????:shrug:

Yes that is without a doubt. I know for a fact if it had of been any other way my son would have been one of this years many transfers.

[Eezy as 123]

I've heard nothing but negative about the new guy for Aiken. Yeah you can do this and that in the summer, but can you actually coach? Especially at the D1 level?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

I've heard nothing but negative about the new guy for Aiken. Yeah you can do this and that in the summer, but can you actually coach? Especially at the D1 level?

Actually, the new HEAD coach is a veteran D-1 H.S. school coach and the asst. coach, named Leon as well, kept things afloat over the summer until the new coach was named.

[GCLHoops]

I've heard nothing but negative about the new guy for Aiken. Yeah you can do this and that in the summer, but can you actually coach? Especially at the D1 level?


He took Woodward to the D-I state championship game in the late 80's or early 90's... Is that any good? Has Gentry done that?

[Eezy as 123]

He took Woodward to the D-I state championship game in the late 80's or early 90's... Is that any good? Has Gentry done that?

He was never given the opportunity. Plus that Woodward team was one of Ohio's best teams EVER. The 89' team, right?

[Eezy as 123]

Actually, the new HEAD coach is a veteran D-1 H.S. school coach and the asst. coach, named Leon as well, kept things afloat over the summer until the new coach was named.

So what's the names of both the assistant coach and head coach? Where did they both come from? Where have they coached and for how long?

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

He was never given the opportunity. Plus that Woodward team was one of Ohio's best teams EVER.

:eek: NEVER GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY? Uh....he was HANDED Withrow's VERY PROLIFIC program and had a number of stellar players/teams in which he damn sure could've taken to state. Does Chris Knight, Matt Pilgrim, Johnny Hollingsworth ring a bell? :shrug: Dude, get out of Lockland every now and again.....:cool:

And the Woodward team which won state was in '88.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

So what's the names of both the assistant coach and head coach? Where did they both come from? Where have they coached and for how long?

Coach Leon, the head coach comes from Clark and prior to that, Woodward. I believe he retired for a while. As for the asst. coach, I don't know of his background.

[Eezy as 123]

And the Woodward team which won state was in '88.

You sure about that?

[Eezy as 123]

:eek: NEVER GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY? Uh....he was HANDED Withrow's VERY PROLIFIC program and had a number of stellar players/teams in which he damn sure could've taken to state. Does Chris Knight, Matt Pilgrim, Johnny Hollingsworth ring a bell? :shrug: Dude, get out of Lockland every now and again.....:cool:

I'm just going by what I've heard. I don't know much about either coach.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

You sure about that?

POSITIVE. In fact, the 1988 Woodward team reunited for a special 20-year commemoration ceremony during the Withrow-Woodward game @ Woodward last season.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

I'm just going by what I've heard. I don't know much about either coach.

TRUST me, Gentry had EVERY opportunity to take a team to the state. He certainly has had the talent over the years at both Withrow AND Aiken to make consistently DEEP tournament runs.

[Eezy as 123]

POSITIVE. In fact, the 1988 Woodward team reunited for a special 20-year commemoration ceremony during the Withrow-Woodward game @ Woodward last season.

Could it be the 1988-89 team?

Question: Do you consider Jamie Mahaffey at NCH a good coach since he took his team to state those years OJ & co. were there?

[withrownatiboy]

Mahaffey won a title without OJ and Bill, so, um....yeah.

[rackball21]

Leon was an assistant coach for the Woodward teams that were Division I state champions (1988) so he assisted the team not "took" the team



He took Woodward to the D-I state championship game in the late 80's or early 90's... Is that any good? Has Gentry done that?

[rackball21]

a coach is only as good as the players he gets ... when oj and bill were at nch he was the man... its funny to me .... really

Could it be the 1988-89 team?

Question: Do you consider Jamie Mahaffey at NCH a good coach since he took his team to state those years OJ & co. were there?

[rackball21]

if they are the coaches whats the hold up in going public?:confused:

Coach Leon, the head coach comes from Clark and prior to that, Woodward. I believe he retired for a while. As for the asst. coach, I don't know of his background.

[withrownatiboy]

Likely waitin til the next board meeting to get it all approved. I think the board is still on the summer schedule, if not they meet tomorrow

[rackball21]

thats a first... I mean taking this long to announce I heard he turned it down at first... and I believe it because he is oh so close to retiring... but as I said in previous post the uc connect has alot to do with this deal... hope they get what they want out of the players and the coaches but this decision reeks of good ol boy networking... you scratch my back I scratch yours... yeah I said it :) painfully obvious... somebody wants something.. it has nothing to do with what JL can do as a coach he was hot in the late 80's and thats only because he had some true talent playing the game. I hope he is prepared to get the kids to come to practice...heard that was a problem... hope he is prepared to keep them eligible ..heard that was a problem.. too.. as a parent I have watched this ish get way too political...

Likely waitin til the next board meeting to get it all approved. I think the board is still on the summer schedule, if not they meet tomorrow

[Eezy as 123]

Mahaffey won a title without OJ and Bill, so, um....yeah.

My point is that ANYONE can take a team to state when you got the state's best players on one team. That Woodward team was loaded more than those NCH teams.

Plus, I said "when OJ & co. were there", not "the year after".

[Eezy as 123]

but this decision reeks of good ol boy networking... you scratch my back I scratch yours... yeah I said it :) painfully obvious... somebody wants something.. it has nothing to do with what JL can do as a coach he was hot in the late 80's and thats only because he had some true talent playing the game. I hope he is prepared to get the kids to come to practice...heard that was a problem... hope he is prepared to keep them eligible ..heard that was a problem.. too.. as a parent I have watched this ish get way too political...

And that's a shame. :Ohno: Why wouldn't they care more about the kids and the team instead of getting together friends and/or family to have fun and feed off the state's top ranked sohpomore (Behanan)? Sounds bad, but I can sense it. Just like at NCH, but we're not talking about the nation's #1 & #2 players. It's a lighter case.

[alhadee]

Eezy, the same coach that had problems getting the kids to come to class and practice is now at Lockland. Will this continue at your school, yes it is a problem that coaches are trying to ride the coat tails of a talented athlete. Hopefully that process will get broken one day soon.

[Past My Prime]

My point is that ANYONE can take a team to state when you got the state's best players on one team. That Woodward team was loaded more than those NCH teams.

Plus, I said "when OJ & co. were there", not "the year after".

I get what you are saying eezy but I think you used a bad example in using NCH's coach. He won with OJ and Bill but he also won without them which is why withrownatiboy probably responded to you. Mahaffey has proved that he is a pretty good coach the past few years.

[withrownatiboy]

the thing that is currently flabbergasting Weebay (it's a Wire reference) is that Sheehan is being praised and Leon is being bashed, yet it feels like they're doing the exact same thing. Jimmy Leon can flat-out coach, people.

He has won 12 league championships, 3 city championships, 7 state Sectional championships, 1 District championship, and 1 Regional championship. His over-all record is 225-102 and his state tournament record is 25-13.

[withrownatiboy]

and this was before the new building, when Woodward was the worst school in the city. Woodward had a senior class in the late '90s in which like 70% of the male top 20 graduates by GPA were basketball players (my aunt was a teacher there at the time)

[GCLHoops]

Leon was an assistant coach for the Woodward teams that were Division I state champions (1988) so he assisted the team not "took" the team


He was an asst. coach on the team that won state in 1988, but I believe he was the head coach in maybe 90 or 91 of the team that lost in the state championship game... someone can correct me if I am wrong?

[Eezy as 123]

Eezy, the same coach that had problems getting the kids to come to class and practice is now at Lockland. Will this continue at your school, yes it is a problem that coaches are trying to ride the coat tails of a talented athlete. Hopefully that process will get broken one day soon.

How's a coach going to make kids go to class, isn't that someone elses responsibility? Plus, I've never heard of a Lockland player not wanting to go to practice. These are two TOTALLY different schools. Lockland's success in basketball makes these kids practice hard to get where the previous players have made it. What has Aiken's basketball program done the past 5-10yrs.? Have they even won the District Finals within the past 5-10yrs.? It's like comparing the Charlotte Bobcats and the Boston Celtics. :cool:

And to be REALLY frank, half the parents in the "ghetto" don't give a rat's "butt" about their kid's. So the main problem is parents, IMO. I've lived in some bad places in my life, and it totally amazes me how these parents are. Letting your 4yo. rome the streets with your 10yo.? Leaving your very young kids at home while you go out at night (very late). There's just no discipline and/or enough care.

[Eezy as 123]

I get what you are saying eezy but I think you used a bad example in using NCH's coach. He won with OJ and Bill but he also won without them which is why withrownatiboy probably responded to you. Mahaffey has proved that he is a pretty good coach the past few years.

I know, and I agree.

But don't you remember before OJ & co. left, everyone on Yappi was saying how Mahaffey couldn't coach?

[rackball21]

regarding your comment about parents in the Ghetto where do you get off assuming the kids of these schools are in the Ghetto that was a very stereotypical statement to state. and let me be the first to tell you very wrong!!! just like you want to talk about the parents not caring about their children well half of the coaches out there don't a rat's "butt" (your words) either! and yes it is there responsibility when they are so bent on winning that you play students who are not eligible to play! And furthermore when did Lockland creep up into this post go post in the lockland blog if you have something to say but as a parent I hope you are not any where near the kids who are trying to play sports because if that is what you think of them you are the epitome of whats wrong with our society...!!! shame on you:mad:


How's a coach going to make kids go to class, isn't that someone elses responsibility? Plus, I've never heard of a Lockland player not wanting to go to practice. These are two TOTALLY different schools. Lockland's success in basketball makes these kids practice hard to get where the previous players have made it. What has Aiken's basketball program done the past 5-10yrs.? Have they even won the District Finals within the past 5-10yrs.? It's like comparing the Charlotte Bobcats and the Boston Celtics. :cool:

And to be REALLY frank, half the parents in the "ghetto" don't give a rat's "butt" about their kid's. So the main problem is parents, IMO. I've lived in some bad places in my life, and it totally amazes me how these parents are. Letting your 4yo. rome the streets with your 10yo.? Leaving your very young kids at home while you go out at night (very late). There's just no discipline and/or enough care.

[rackball21]

well if he can "flat out coach" why the hush hush to naming him? IF Aiken is so fortunate why the delay in announcing this coach??? like I said if this is the school's decision. THEN NAME HIM !!!!and so far its all rumor until its publicly announced... right? or do we all know that my theory on the networking holds more weight hmmmmmm


the thing that is currently flabbergasting Weebay (it's a Wire reference) is that Sheehan is being praised and Leon is being bashed, yet it feels like they're doing the exact same thing. Jimmy Leon can flat-out coach, people.

[Eezy as 123]

regarding your comment about parents in the Ghetto where do you get off assuming the kids of these schools are in the Ghetto that was a very stereotypical statement to state.

Where is Aiken located? And I didn't actually mean the REAL ghetto. Notice how I said "ghetto".

well half of the coaches out there don't a rat's "butt" (your words) either! and yes it is there responsibility when they are so bent on winning that you play students who are not eligible to play!

I agree.

What? What are you talking about? What are principals, teachers, and parents for?


And furthermore when did Lockland creep up into this post go post in the lockland blog if you have something to say

Because Gentry was brought up. :hello:

but as a parent I hope you are not any where near the kids who are trying to play sports because if that is what you think of them you are the epitome of whats wrong with our society...!!! shame on you:mad:

What? When did I say anything about the players? I'm talking about coaches, teachers, and parents. :shrug: :hello:

[withrownatiboy]

Aiken's in College Hill. Oddly enough, it probably has the least ghetto service area of the CPS neighborhood high schools. Aiken's just plagued by apathy, and that's been true for years. It seems like parents who care are more apt to send their kids to Lasalle or X. It's also interesting that the best performing CPS schools athletically and academically don't have a major private school nearby

[alhadee]

Eezy, I'm not shocked by your "ghetto" statement. It's always someone trying to blame everything on the parents. There are alot of families working hard to see that their kids get a good education, my so is a graduate of the CPS system with a 4.8 GPA and received many scholarship offers.

It is the responsibility of the coach to ensure that these kids go to school, class, etc. just as much as it is the parents, administrators, and teachers. When people believe that the coach is exempt, that's the day sports should be taken out of the school.

I coach at the college level and it is my responsiblity to ensure my kids go to class and graduate, just as it would be if I were at the high school level. Hopefully you will understand teaching our kids is a broader endeavor, but don't characterized our neighborhoods as ghetto's and don't state that the parents don't care about their kids.

[mikeinclifton]

It is the responsibility of the coach to ensure that these kids go to school, class, etc. just as much as it is the parents, administrators, and teachers.

I'll respectfully disagree with this. I could see a coach making a player run laps or extra study tables for missing a class or bad grades. But that would be in response to other info from the teachers, parents or admin's (like a report card). So I disagree that it is the coaches responsibility "just as much as" the others. Let the coaches coach, let the teachers teach and let the parents raise their kids.

[mikeinclifton]

Lockland's success in basketball makes these kids practice hard to get where the previous players have made it.

You could use the same argument to for the opposite too though.
"[Insert school here] has not won anything in the last few years, so we need to be motivated enough to do more this year!" It works both ways. [/QUOTE]

And to be REALLY frank, half the parents in the "ghetto" don't give a rat's "butt" about their kid's. So the main problem is parents, IMO. I've lived in some bad places in my life, and it totally amazes me how these parents are. Letting your 4yo. rome the streets with your 10yo.? Leaving your very young kids at home while you go out at night (very late). There's just no discipline and/or enough care.

EZ, I think many of us see what you are trying to say, but your over-generalization looks very closed minded. I think what you were trying to say could have been been said much more effectively.

And BTW. . .
ghetto = "ghetto". If you mean to say something other than the word ghetto, say the other word, don't just put the word in quotes. Otherwise I could call you an "idiot" and claim that I didn't mean a REAL idiot because I put it in quotes.

[Past My Prime]

I know, and I agree.

But don't you remember before OJ & co. left, everyone on Yappi was saying how Mahaffey couldn't coach?

Yeah for sure it wasn't just on yappi either. But I think he proved himself these past few years and he will keep fielding good teams for the next few.

[Eezy as 123]

You could use the same argument to for the opposite too though.
"[Insert school here] has not won anything in the last few years, so we need to be motivated enough to do more this year!" It works both ways.

It's better motivation when they see older players make it far in the tournament, IMO. They see all the attention they get, they see the fans excited, etc., etc.

And BTW. . .
ghetto = "ghetto". If you mean to say something other than the word ghetto, say the other word, don't just put the word in quotes. Otherwise I could call you an "idiot" and claim that I didn't mean a REAL idiot because I put it in quotes.

Ok, bad neighborhood. :shrug:

[rackball21]

Are you referring to Aiken as being in a bad neighborhood? please there are much worse....
Ok, bad neighborhood. :shrug:[/QUOTE]

It's better motivation when they see older players make it far in the tournament, IMO. They see all the attention they get, they see the fans excited, etc., etc.



Ok, bad neighborhood. :shrug:

[rackball21]

IF YOU DIDNT KNOW WHERE AIKEN WAS LOCATED YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE REFERENCE TO THE GHETTO QUOTES OR NOT!!! ...NICE TRY CLEANING IT UP. BUT THE UNDERLYING MESSAGE WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR....


Where is Aiken located? And I didn't actually mean the REAL ghetto. Notice how I said "ghetto".



I agree.

What? What are you talking about? What are principals, teachers, and parents for?




Because Gentry was brought up. :hello:



What? When did I say anything about the players? I'm talking about coaches, teachers, and parents. :shrug: :hello:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Ok, bad neighborhood. :shrug:

College Hill, a "bad" neighborhood? :laugh:

Last time I checked, Lockland wasn't exactly looking like Hyde Park...you really need to get out more, Eezy. :cool:

And I wonder what those VERY AA players and coach would think of you if they knew about your "ghetto" references here on Yappi. HMMMMM.....:stirthepot:

[alhadee]

Mike I understand your point, but when you begin to punish the kid based up what the teachers, administrators, parents, etc state. Then you are taking responsibility. In order to coach, you should take it upon yourself to become involved with your players academics because in return it can affect the progress and success of your team.

It takes a good coach to ensure his kids are performing well on and off the court. No stone should be left unturned with it comes to a student-athlete because they have to juggle their craft along with education and life lesson and we as coaches are on the front line just as much as the other individual's involved in thier lives.

[HoopHound]

College Hill, a "bad" neighborhood? :laugh:

Last time I checked, Lockland wasn't exactly looking like Hyde Park...you really need to get out more, Eezy. :cool:

And I wonder what those VERY AA players and coach would think of you if they knew about your "ghetto" references her on Yappi. HMMMMM.....:stirthepot:

Sometimes, the only time my pal Eez opens his mouth is to change feet. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Mike I understand your point, but when you begin to punish the kid based up what the teachers, administrators, parents, etc state. Then you are taking responsibility. In order to coach, you should take it upon yourself to become involved with your players academics because in return it can affect the progress and success of your team.

It takes a good coach to ensure his kids are performing well on and off the court. No stone should be left unturned with it comes to a student-athlete because they have to juggle their craft along with education and life lesson and we as coaches are on the front line just as much as the other individual's involved in thier lives.

:clap: :clap: AGREED.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Sometimes, the only time my pal Eez opens his mouth is to change feet. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: Dude's up to his KNEECAPS with this one, HH.

[111411]

:laugh: :laugh: Dude's up to his KNEECAPS with this one, HH.

It wouldn't be the first time. :laugh:

What was that Mark Twain said? "It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt."

[freshmenbballer21]

:hello: Lockland has been known to be the worst neighborhood for years, I grew up in Winton Terrace in the 80's and we were scared to go to Lockland back then and it's still has'nt changed. So you want to talk "GHETTO" Lockland is as "GHETTO" as they come. That is one of the many reasons I would not let my son transfer to that school.

[HoopHound]

This is partially my fault... :blush: :wallbang:

We've allowed this thread to meandor away from the topic of the coaching jobs at Aiken and Hughes. How we've gotten from that subject to the best (or worst) neighborhoods in the Greater Cincy area, I'm not certain. :confused:

Let's get this back to the coaching situations at these schools and leave the socio-economic and socio-geographical discussions for the debate forum, shall we?

Thanks!! :)

[mikeinclifton]

Mike I understand your point, but when you begin to punish the kid based up what the teachers, administrators, parents, etc state. Then you are taking responsibility. In order to coach, you should take it upon yourself to become involved with your players academics because in return it can affect the progress and success of your team.

So its possible we are saying the same thing, but have different approaches. . .

It just bothers me when folks say that Coaches are responsible for the academics of their players. It makes it look like the parents, administrators teachers/professors and (dare I say) the student himself is not.

[alhadee]

No, that's not what I'm saying. As a coach, I am responsible for the success of my students on and off the court. The players, parents, teachers, administors, mentors, etc. all play a part as well. I know first hand, without the coaches some kids loose the drive to perform in the classroom because people tend to express how good the are on the court.

If you spend 2 or more hours with a kid day in and day out, he or she becomes your responsiblity just as much as the others. If you break down the day, the kids spend more time away from home being involved in school, sports, etc.

In the end, we do not absolve ourself from responsiblity by placing it in other areas because in the end each individual plays a major role in the success of our kids.

[voice_of_reason]

I agree with what Alhadee is saying, the coach is, in many cases, the one the players listen too the most. In some cases the coach may be the only male the player sees.

Many of you may not like him, but the most successful coach in college basketball was definitely a disciplinarian - The General, Bobby Knight!

I think this is what most schools want that is why many schools say you have to be in the building to be the coach.

When you are addressed simply as "Coach", I think you have earned the respect of that person. So good luck in "just coaching". Be a difference maker and become "Coach"!

[mikeinclifton]

No, that's not what I'm saying. As a coach, I am responsible for the success of my students on and off the court. The players, parents, teachers, administors, mentors, etc. all play a part as well. I know first hand, without the coaches some kids loose the drive to perform in the classroom because people tend to express how good the are on the court.

If you spend 2 or more hours with a kid day in and day out, he or she becomes your responsiblity just as much as the others. If you break down the day, the kids spend more time away from home being involved in school, sports, etc.

In the end, we do not absolve ourself from responsiblity by placing it in other areas because in the end each individual plays a major role in the success of our kids.

Ok, fair enough.

I suppose now my question is the definition of your phrase "you should take it upon yourself to become involved with your players academics"

In what ways is the coach to be 'involved'? What tasks does the coach perform when he is involved with his players' academics? Is there anything contractual between the coach and his/her employer regarding academics?

EDIT -
alhadee - I reread a previous post of yours that said -

when you begin to punish the kid based up what the teachers, administrators, parents, etc state. Then you are taking responsibility. In order to coach, you should take it upon yourself to become involved with your players academics

I guess I just don't see "taking responsibility" and punishing a player for missing a class as the same thing. 'Taking responsibility' is something is proactive and planned in advance, IMO. Teachers, parents and the student are always involved. But punishing a player for a mistake is reactive. Its semantics now and I can end the discussion.

[Eezy as 123]

Ok, what happened to ALL my posts? I had like 4 of them replying back to these blind people.

I'm done. I'm not posting anywhere but the MVC and Lockland thread. It's a shame when 500+ (I'M BEING OVER-EXAGERATE AGAIN, WHICH MEANS NOT ACTUALLY 500+ PEOPLE, BUT A LOT) people can sit here and bash me (for me saying "ghetto" (whoopty-doo), but when I defend myself, I get totally deleted, NOT EDITED, DELETED.

I see how it is.

And for the record, why would I put quotations over ghetto, if I was REALLY reffering them as the ghetto? :hello: WAKE UP and use that thing in your skulls!

Sorry for being REAL. I don't beat around the bush and try to sugar-coat things I say like a lot of people. I flat out say it, because that's the way it is.

And if Lockland is SO bad, and College Hill is SO good, how come Lockland NEVER has a problem with kids going to class and passing when Aiken does? There's another thing to think about.

And to those of you who think Lockland is a bad neighborhood, why not do open enrollment? You don't have to live in Lockland to go there. :hello: And if you think Lockland HS is bad (I pitty a fool who thinks so), why not enroll him through Lockland, save $300-$400 (whoopty doo) and have him attend Diamond or Scarlet Oaks? They still play sports for Lockland. :hello: Why stay at a place where they don't know what they're doing besides helping themselves (it's obvious as daylight).

[111411]

This is partially my fault... :blush: :wallbang:

We've allowed this thread to meandor away from the topic of the coaching jobs at Aiken and Hughes. How we've gotten from that subject to the best (or worst) neighborhoods in the Greater Cincy area, I'm not certain. :confused:

Let's get this back to the coaching situations at these schools and leave the socio-economic and socio-geographical discussions for the debate forum, shall we?

Thanks!! :)

In response to the previous post, perhaps my friend Hoophound was not clear. I'll rephrase for him, Eezy, drop it.

[Clark W Griswold]

SOOOOO is it going to be Leon, or not?

[withrownatiboy]

the Clark job is now posted as open, so likely yeah

[alhadee]

Mike when you accept the position as head coach or assistant coach, you have just become contractual for the success of your players. If you find that a player is under performing in the classroom, you should provide a study table, assist him or her in tutoring, or conduct a level of tutoring yourself.

It is my understanding from a inside source, this is one of the reason Gentry is no longer at Aiken. His kids were not going to class or performing well and he was in the building. If I'm not mistaken Telly dropped out of school, don't get me wrong I'm not saying that is his fault, but as a coach and mentor he has the ability and responsibility to affect change with his kids.

In some cases we as coaches may be the only father they have known. Also, many coaches are being fired for under achieving academic kids. Also, punishing is a form of taking responsibility.

[freshmenbballer21]

Once again alhadee your post is true and well put:angel:

[One Who Knows]

It's official: Jimmy Leon to Aiken. Look out! Good players, good coach could mean an exciting season for Aiken:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080819/SPT0301/808190331/1062/SPT

[tucker]

how many good clark players will leon be taking with him to aiken?

[Eezy as 123]

how many good clark players will leon be taking with him to aiken?

No one on Clark could play at Aiken, IMO.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

No one on Clark could play at Aiken, IMO.

No one at Clark WOULD go to Aiken because of the ACADEMICS, first off. Secondly---there are a couple of guys from Clark's team who would /could contribute to Aiken's team, that is, IF the ACADEMICS of the school were in order......

[rackball21]

you got that right Big Ballin!!!!...and check out a message I received from a student at Aiken:
"Yeah, some body who was affiliated with UC got the job. When I went there last week they had a catered dinner so and I figured when I seen Eric Abercrombie (UC) and lot of mentors from UC. I put it together. The red side had went from Academic Emergency to Effective one step away from Excellent. The Blue side was suppose to be the good side but with the new principle Mr. Thomas on the red side they brought up the rating and has surpassed the blue side. They are also pumping money into that side and getting a new school in the next 2 years probably because Shane there on the RED side. "
you can take it with a grain of salt but all I can do is...

:cool: laugh.......


No one at Clark WOULD go to Aiken because of the ACADEMICS, first off. Secondly---there are a couple of guys from Clark's team who would /could contribute to Aiken's team, that is, IF the ACADEMICS of the school were in order......

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

you got that right Big Ballin!!!!...and check out a message I received from a student at Aiken:
"Yeah, some body who was affiliated with UC got the job. When I went there last week they had a catered dinner so and I figured when I seen Eric Abercrombie (UC) and lot of mentors from UC. I put it together. The red side had went from Academic Emergency to Effective one step away from Excellent. The Blue side was suppose to be the good side but with the new principle Mr. Thomas on the red side they brought up the rating and has surpassed the blue side. They are also pumping money into that side and getting a new school in the next 2 years probably because Shane there on the RED side. "
you can take it with a grain of salt but all I can do is...

:cool: laugh.......

:Ohno: :Ohno: Sad, yet not surprising. I've often heard that there are folks around him who have turned him into a "meal ticket" so to speak and it's downright disgusting.

[peanut]

No one at Clark WOULD go to Aiken because of the ACADEMICS, first off. Secondly---there are a couple of guys from Clark's team who would /could contribute to Aiken's team, that is, IF the ACADEMICS of the school were in order......

Hold up WAIT! didn't CPS/Aiken fire the last coach cause he failed to assure the kids were adhering to Academics????? Now the truth comes to the light????? Please BIGBlln say it again, so most on this comedy of posts can here you loud and clear. A SH..... Sandwhich is just that! lettuce and tomatoes on top or not.. Quit blamin The tree, when it is the ROOT that is the problem.........:angel:

[freshmenbballer21]

I know for a fact that Chane is doing well academically at Aiken. Just because he does not attend Princeton or Walnut Hills does not mean that he is in academic trouble, look at how everyone (not just on this board) dogged Mcelroy for his poor academics. Just saying children exceed at their own pace, time, and enviroment, and whats best for one kid may not be best for another one.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

I know for a fact that Chane is doing well academically at Aiken. Just because he does not attend Princeton or Walnut Hills does not mean that he is in academic trouble, look at how everyone (not just on this board) dogged Mcelroy for his poor academics. Just saying children exceed at their own pace, time, and enviroment, and whats best for one kid may not be best for another one.

No one is saying that Chane specifically is doing poorly....it's the academic criteria of the SCHOOL which is in question. I happen to know a couple of players at Aiken who have questioned their choice of schools from an academic perspective.....:angel: :) Jus' sayin', that's all. :cool:

And keeping it ALL the way for real, from what I've heard, the "academic" stuff that flies at Aiken would NEVER be allowed at Withrow, Clark or Walnut for 2.2 seconds.

[peanut]

NEVER[/I] be allowed at Withrow, Clark or Walnut for 2.2 seconds.

That's why I can't understand why they would throw Coach Gentry under the bus....run him over then back up lol:angel:

[Withrow 89]

I agree that it not gentry's fault. He's not the one calling the shots it's the principals at these schools. From my understand the kids walt inherited where gentry kids and now the ones jimmy leon is getting is gentrys too. He did all of that recruiting and someone else keeps stealing his glory and thats not fair.The Board of Education should start looking in to this because how can you get fired for winning games and putting a school back on the map?

[Eezy as 123]

That's why I can't understand why they would throw Coach Gentry under the bus....run him over then back up lol:angel:

I understand why. They're in it for themselves! :hello: How is it that NO ONE sees this?! :hello:

They're all a bunch of blood-sucking parasites feeding off others. It's more obvious than daylight. I'm SOOOO glad no one in my family is apart of the CPS. Look at what happened at Withrow and NCH. Yuck.

The CPS has a basketball system, get the funk out of here. :wallbang: Maybe whenever they're isn't "money to get". If I were a big fan of Achin', I would turn my back on them SO quick. If there were EVER ANYTHING that ruins HS basketball, it's THIS! I can go on and on, but I might get banned from Yappi.

Aiken is achin'.

THE TRUTH HURTS, HUH?

[Eezy as 123]

I wasn't going to tell people's business, but here I go. I might get a warning from HoopHound or 1's but oh well, I think this is kind of important to throw out there. And it's a good example of what's going on over there.

When Lockland played Clark Montessori last year @ Clark, after the game, I was walking behind Ricardo Maxwell's mother. For those of you who don't know, Ricardo Maxwell is Lockland's young star PG.

Anyways, after the game I was walking behind Maxwell's mother, and here comes ex-Clark coach, rushing up on her. Now, I didn't hear EVERYTHING he said to her, but I KNOW he was talking about trying to get Ricardo over to Clark to play for him. And you can tell he was hitting on her and everything (Ricardo's mother is a pretty lady). I wish I can remember the exact words I heard, but it disgusted me, I almost threw up.

Leon is only in it for himself.

Aiken went from being mediocre to mediover.

[freshmenbballer21]

eezy please :wallbang: SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

eezy please :wallbang: SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!

:thumb: THANK YOU!!!!

[Mercury]

I agree that it not gentry's fault. He's not the one calling the shots it's the principals at these schools. From my understand the kids walt inherited where gentry kids and now the ones jimmy leon is getting is gentrys too. He did all of that recruiting and someone else keeps stealing his glory and thats not fair.The Board of Education should start looking in to this because how can you get fired for winning games and putting a school back on the map?

That's not entirely true. Gates, Long, Grimes and the Purcell kid came after Gentry left. 4 kids left when Gentry left. Gates was going to attend Withrow as a freshman and opted for Hughes because of Gentry. As soon as Gentry left, Gates came. I'm not too sure there would have been glory had he stayed. DJ Frazier, Greg Howard and Chris Hisle really came out of their shells when he left. Question, Even if he gets the talent...does he get the most out of them.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

That's not entirely true. Gates, Long, Grimes and the Purcell kid came after Gentry left. 4 kids left when Gentry left. Gates was going to attend Withrow as a freshman and opted for Hughes because of Gentry. As soon as Gentry left, Gates came. I'm not too sure there would have been glory had he stayed. DJ Frazier, Greg Howard and Chris Hisle really came out of their shells when he left. Question, Even if he gets the talent...does he get the most out of them.

BINGOOOOOOO.......:cool:

[Withrow 89]

Like i said those were gentry kids except for the ones that transfered in for one year. As for yancey hes in withrow district and hes been living there. Yancey came along with dees and mc bride. I played at withrow and i know them all so you dont have a clue about whats going on at my school thank you. You guys are on the outside looking in trying to figure out whats going on. Only a couple of kids transfered out with steve. The other ones parents where concerned about the academics at aiken and that they were better at withrow.

[BigBallin'4theFuture]

Like i said those were gentry kids except for the ones that transfered in for one year. As for yancey hes in withrow district and hes been living there. Yancey came along with dees and mc bride. I played at withrow and i know them all so you dont have a clue about whats going on at my school thank you. You guys are on the outside looking in trying to figure out whats going on. Only a couple of kids transfered out with steve. The other ones parents where concerned about the academics at aiken and that they were better at withrow.

And I HEAR ya, W89, but the question remains, does Gentry get the BEST out of his players? Also...does he DO the BEST JOB in the interest of his players...ALL OF THEM....not just the "stars"? :shrug:

[Mercury]

Like i said those were gentry kids except for the ones that transfered in for one year. As for yancey hes in withrow district and hes been living there. Yancey came along with dees and mc bride. I played at withrow and i know them all so you dont have a clue about whats going on at my school thank you. You guys are on the outside looking in trying to figure out whats going on. Only a couple of kids transfered out with steve. The other ones parents where concerned about the academics at aiken and that they were better at withrow.

4 transferred to Aiken and 1 transferred to Woodward.

[freshmenbballer21]

And I HEAR ya, W89, but the question remains, does Gentry get the BEST out of his players? Also...does he DO the BEST JOB in the interest of his players...ALL OF THEM....not just the "stars"? :shrug:

I know the answer to this one personnally... NO, not if he has nothin to gain, only reason he did alot for Chane was because of the obvious, he thought he had something to gain.

[Withrow 89]

I wonder about you guys sometimes. If you've ever played sports or do anybody knows you. I know for a fact some of the things he did with and for the kids because i was with him. He does alot for kids inthis area besides basketball that you guys dont even know about. And as for chane you have the wrong person it's the other people thats around him just wait and you'll see what i mean.

[Eezy as 123]

Is it true that Cortez Howell (Aiken) transferred to Lockland?

[Withrow 89]

yes its true he is there

[Eezy as 123]

Did any others come with him?

[alhadee]

Will he be eligible? It is my understanding he dropped out of Aiken, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Eezy as 123]

Will he be eligible? It is my understanding he dropped out of Aiken, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm guessing he will be eligible, or he wouldn't have came. :shrug:

I don't know anything about him other than stats.

[alhadee]

Because he came, doesn't mean he's eligible.

[Eezy as 123]

Because he came, doesn't mean he's eligible.

Yeah, but I'm sure he checked into that before he came.

[redskin17]

Gates' guardian or wahtever he is and UNCLE are why he transfered to Withrow. What is going on in CPS athletics are a joke. All the transfer what coach jumping is getting out of hand. Some of the ADs have NO clue what is going on, ie Braddix at Withrow, example--didnt even know Chambers was leaving.

[Withrow 89]

Ok yeah he might didnt know because he doesnt call any shots Ms. Johnson does. Mr. Chambers is fed up with whats going on there since the dismissal of Mr. Willis and Gentry. and not to even mention Doc leaving. The lady came with other motives and wrecked our programs. The principals need to sit a their desks and worry about students in the class room and let the A.D do their jobs.

[Eezy as 123]

Does anyone know why Chane Behanan was at the Lockland football game tonight, SITTING on the Lockland side? I also seen him walking with an older guy with a Lockland shirt on. :shrug:

[peanut]

Does anyone know why Chane Behanan was at the Lockland football game tonight, SITTING on the Lockland side? I also seen him walking with an older guy with a Lockland shirt on. :shrug:

NOTHING, he will be at Aiken and by the way another big transfer is on the verge of happening ............he will also be at Aiken.:crush:

[freshmenbballer21]

:angel: Ok I'll be quiet and let you tell peanut.:crush:

[Eezy as 123]

So you all aren't going to say who?

[defrow89]

The transfer that is coming to Aiken is Kenny Knight from Winton Woods. You heard it hear first! Check it out by next week:stirthepot:

[D'em Up]

I really hope that the next CPS super has enough of a spine that he/she will stop allowing all of these inter-CPS transfers :soapbox:

[freshmenbballer21]

Kenny actually started today.

[Mercury]

Gates' guardian or wahtever he is and UNCLE are why he transfered to Withrow. What is going on in CPS athletics are a joke. All the transfer what coach jumping is getting out of hand. Some of the ADs have NO clue what is going on, ie Braddix at Withrow, example--didnt even know Chambers was leaving.

Didn't know or didn't care. It was time to move on. That resignation was welcomed. By the way nothing runs through Withrow Athletics without total clearance from Braddix. Redskin 17, man up and call me and we can discuss how much you really don't know. I'd love to sit with you and discuss our program and our philosophy.

[redskin17]

The sad thing is you think you know me, but yuo have no clue, Also i heard that Braddix was laughed at when it was announced at an AD meeting that Chambers was going to Riverview

[111411]

Let's stay away from each other, gentlemen. If you have something personal to discuss, try PM's.

[redskin17]

You are right 111411........

[peanut]

The transfer that is coming to Aiken is Kenny Knight from Winton Woods. You heard it hear first! Check it out by next week:stirthepot:

Ha ha You really on top of your game Johnny come lately Ha HA :rolleyes:

[HoopHound]

Ha ha You really on top of your game Johnny come lately Ha HA :rolleyes:

defrow HAD to tell, peanut... or Eez woulda exploded with curiousity!! ;)

[Eezy as 123]

:laugh: I just didn't see the point of waiting. :shrug:

[Mercury]

The sad thing is you think you know me, but yuo have no clue, Also i heard that Braddix was laughed at when it was announced at an AD meeting that Chambers was going to Riverview

Nobody cares. You give Chambers way too much credit. Again man up, PM me and talk to me.

[peanut]

:laugh: I just didn't see the point of waiting. :shrug:

I didn't want to post his name without having proof. Several folks have talked about it including Kenny. I found out he withdrew and posted it waiting for him to enroll at Aiken-It was as simple as that.:angel:

[peanut]

defrow HAD to tell, peanut... or Eez woulda exploded with curiousity!! ;)

True true LMAO:D

[Eezy as 123]

I didn't want to post his name without having proof. Several folks have talked about it including Kenny. I found out he withdrew and posted it waiting for him to enroll at Aiken-It was as simple as that.:angel:

Yeah but now defrow gets credit for the announcement. ;)

[peanut]

Yeah but now defrow gets credit for the announcement. ;)

Oh No! I will never be the same :) I'm going to get that bottle and drink my sorrow away LMAO:rolleyes:

[Eezy as 123]

Oh No! I will never be the same :) I'm going to get that bottle and drink my sorrow away LMAO:rolleyes:

Man, you can tell your an azz. Did you notice the wink?

[HoopHound]

Man, you can tell your an azz. Did you notice the wink?

I think peanut was being friendly/sarcastic the same as you were Eez. :)

And quit calling people names... as mad as I've gotten at you in the past, I've never called you an azz...





(...at least that you know about) :angel: ;) :D

[peanut]

Man, you can tell your an azz. Did you notice the wink?

Ok? you think im really goin on a drinkn binge relax...I am jokin also, it's all good:hello:

[Eezy as 123]

I think peanut was being friendly/sarcastic the same as you were Eez. :)

And quit calling people names... as mad as I've gotten at you in the past, I've never called you an azz...





(...at least that you know about) :angel: ;) :D

Well he rolled his eyes at me. :laugh: But seriously, it's hard to figure out sometimes, because actions speak louder than words in conversations.

Because you're a mod, that's why. :laugh: But seriously, I know. My fault IF I was wrong about thinking peanut was being an azz. I apologize.

[Eezy as 123]

Ok? you think im really goin on a drinkn binge relax...I am jokin also, it's all good:hello:

What threw me off is when you posted the lil guy rolling the eyes. It just seemed like it, sorry.

[HoopHound]

Well he rolled his eyes at me....

Geez, Eez... I hope you don't think that the wink smilies I've used with you mean I'm flirting with you!! :p :eek: :eek: :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[peanut]

What threw me off is when you posted the lil guy rolling the eyes. It just seemed like it, sorry.

No problem, Sometimes my humor is dry...:shrug: or maybe my choices of animation....LOL I apolgize also if it was taken the wrong way.. Good luck to Lockland this year.

[Eezy as 123]

Geez, Eez... I hope you don't think that the wink smilies I've used with you mean I'm flirting with you!! :p :eek: :eek: :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:laugh: Enough of the quick comeback, wise-crackin' nonsense!

Just because you hit the 18K mark, doesn't make you any better! (Even though you know 10x, or more, than me about hoops).

[Eezy as 123]

Good luck to Lockland this year.

Thata-boy! Nice to see you come out of your shell, peanut! :cool:

[HoopHound]

...Just because you hit the 18K mark, doesn't make you any better! (Even though you know 10x, or more, than me about hoops).

Brown nose.










OK... OK... I'll stop!! :cool: :)

[Eezy as 123]

Brown nose.










OK... OK... I'll stop!! :cool: :)

Just go to bed you ol' blood hound! It's 2am!

By the way, let's get back on topic, or I'm going to shut this one down. :cool:

[peanut]

Thata-boy! Nice to see you come out of your shell, peanut! :cool:

Im not that eazzzzy it takes me awhile to warm up:D ............Ok Im done goin to bed ha ha ha

[HoopHound]

Thata-boy! Nice to see you come out of your shell, peanut! :cool:

You gotta watch peanut... sometimes he can be pretty "salty".

(Sorry :blush: ... couldn't let that one go by. I'm REALLY gonna stop now...)








Unless you keep lobbing those 60mph fastballs that I can hit outta the park. :angel:

[Eezy as 123]

Im not that eazzzzy it takes me awhile to warm up:D ............Ok Im done goin to bed ha ha ha

I'm eezy like Sunday morning.

Ok, we all (HH, Mr. Peanut, and I) need to shut up, we're blabbering on about nothing! Like a bunch of school girls with new cell phones!

[Eezy as 123]

Unless you keep lobbing those 60mph fastballs that I can hit outta the park. :angel:

:laugh: You're right, I give up! I can't keep making these "quick comeback, wise-crackin'" comments as long as you. I'll stall like Silent Bob. Oh no, I don't want to get you on metaphors. :wallbang: We'll be here all night, or morning.

[HoopHound]

:laugh: You're right, I give up! I can't keep making these "quick comeback, wise-crackin'" comments as long as you. I'll stall like Silent Bob. Oh no, I don't want to get you on metaphors. :wallbang: We'll be here all night, or morning.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Goodnight, Eez (and peanut if you're still reading)!!

[Eezy as 123]

See ya Hoop'! I still got until 7am............................................... ................(inhale hard, exhale slow)

[Eezy as 123]

Ok, can someone please explain to me why my posts keep getting deleted?

[rackball21]

I dont know ... thats funny but riddle me this since there is a vacancy ...again... do you think that ET really wants to coach :-)
and can he make Leon the interim and if so does he have the credentials to be a coach????? just wondering...

Ok, can someone please explain to me why my posts keep getting deleted?

[peanut]

I dont know ... thats funny but riddle me this since there is a vacancy ...again... do you think that ET really wants to coach :-)....

have thought and heard this all along:stirthepot: