View Full Version : What Will It Take For Fairfield To Win
Reality Factor
04-14-08, 09:59 AM
Ok we're not going to win the GMC, and we're not coming in last.What do we do to win?
goblue93
04-14-08, 10:27 AM
Ok we're not going to win the GMC, and we're not coming in last.What do we do to win?
Score more runs than the other team!!!! Just a thought.
Fielders Choice
04-14-08, 10:40 AM
Score more runs than the other team!!!! Just a thought.
That usually works.:)
The Big X
04-14-08, 11:07 AM
FF has lost many close games this season so they are not far from winning and they have played the teams that are doing well in the league so far.
In honor of my deceased buddy IMHO here is my thought on what it will take to make those one and two run losses into wins.
Reading the posts on here I think one major ingredient to winning for FF would be to put LESS pressure on the players. Let them have some fun while playing baseball. It is a game they should be having fun. Less pressure they will play loose instead of uptight and they will make the plays that they are now not making and get the big hit that they are not getting. Do not make them think that if they screw up they are going to read about it on a message board. Do not question everything the coaches do. Be positive instead of trying to question everything - good thing happen when good players are playing up to their potential. FF parents - let your kids do that.
Players win, plain and simple. Players lose, plain and simple. The vast majority of coaches put the players on the field that gives their team the best chance to be successful. The coaching staff was hired to do a job, let them do it. I thought that this staff was supposed to be the opposite of the previous staff and make things "fun" for the kids whatever that is. Pressure, that's a non-issue, you think the Moellers, Elders, Wests, Hamiltons of the area don't play under pressure. The pressure to live up to the expectation every single year. Don't tell the Hamilton staff still didn't have the expectation to be in the GMC title hunt and win their usual 20 games. That is what they do.
The Big X
04-14-08, 02:27 PM
Players win, plain and simple. Players lose, plain and simple. The vast majority of coaches put the players on the field that gives their team the best chance to be successful. The coaching staff was hired to do a job, let them do it. I thought that this staff was supposed to be the opposite of the previous staff and make things "fun" for the kids whatever that is. Pressure, that's a non-issue, you think the Moellers, Elders, Wests, Hamiltons of the area don't play under pressure. The pressure to live up to the expectation every single year. Don't tell the Hamilton staff still didn't have the expectation to be in the GMC title hunt and win their usual 20 games. That is what they do.
Agree players win and lose the game and their is pressure in ALL situations, hoever it is good pressure in the programs you have mentioned. You have to have the heart to try to make the play in order to make it. However, if you try to make a play and it fails and you are crucified for it - players will be tight in those situations and will not make the play more often than not. Some of the FF parents have created an atmosphere that seeks blame, does not respect the coaches and it rubs off on the kids no matter what you want to say that it shouldn't. It does. The parents of FF should create a better atosphere at FF in order to be successful. It has not been that way the past 3 or 4 years has it?
the big X-so what is the answer then. Since Coach Yeatts left, it has been a downward spiral. Coach Smith had a couple of decent years, not quite to FF's standards but decent. Coach Hubbard had some mediocre regular seasons but seemed to do okay in the tourney. This staff has only had 1.5 years and maybe most overestimated the ability of the kids. I have no way of knowing but I would agree that the level of expectations have not met the play on the field, and I only know what I read from this mesage board. I saw the second HHS game and must admit that FF easily was the best team on the field that night. Big week for the Indians and a chance to turn things around. Good luck to them.
The Big X
04-14-08, 02:58 PM
the big X-so what is the answer then. Since Coach Yeatts left, it has been a downward spiral. Coach Smith had a couple of decent years, not quite to FF's standards but decent. Coach Hubbard had some mediocre regular seasons but seemed to do okay in the tourney. This staff has only had 1.5 years and maybe most overestimated the ability of the kids. I have no way of knowing but I would agree that the level of expectations have not met the play on the field, and I only know what I read from this mesage board. I saw the second HHS game and must admit that FF easily was the best team on the field that night. Big week for the Indians and a chance to turn things around. Good luck to them.
If that is the case - FF should be able to turn it around and make a run the rest of the year and in the tourneybecause they have the talent. However - as I said - team chemistry is huge and that includes having parents that buy into what the coaching staff is doing, supporting the staff and creating a positive environment for the players to play in.
Reality Factor
04-14-08, 09:03 PM
Score more runs than the other team!!!! Just a thought.
Good call someone is thinking outside the box here!
FF INDIAN 4 LIFE
04-15-08, 08:08 PM
Who won the game today?
The Big X
04-16-08, 12:00 AM
FF 7 Miamisburg 4
Congratulations on the win tonight. Maybe this is what is needed to get off the mark in conference games.
Reality Factor
04-16-08, 09:18 AM
Well I've now seen 9 games. If we're going to win today, this is what it's going to take. Johnson is pitching so we need : Durbin 1st, Hinson 2nd,Ventling SS, Haney 3rd, Gabbard LF, Croy CF, Schweinfest RF, Kigar catching. After 3 we have to have Pritchard or Gio ready to go. We'll see if they realy want to win!
BlueFan82
04-16-08, 11:34 AM
Well I've now seen 9 games. If we're going to win today, this is what it's going to take. Johnson is pitching so we need : Durbin 1st, Hinson 2nd,Ventling SS, Haney 3rd, Gabbard LF, Croy CF, Schweinfest RF, Kigar catching. After 3 we have to have Pritchard or Gio ready to go. We'll see if they realy want to win!
WOW! :eek:
I'm sure coach wouldn't mind if a parent walked into the dugout with that
lineup card and said "HERE....let's try this tonight" tell me how that works
out for ya, dude! After all, the Parents/ Athletes/ Fans know more than the
coach!! :laugh: :rolleyes:
Reality Factor
04-16-08, 02:54 PM
Bluefan Let's see is anyone walking in the dugout? NO! Name of website Yappi! Make all the little faces you want, like I said, already I've watched 9 games where were you? At the games, NOT, if you had been there maybe you would have something worth saying! Until you come and see for yourself please keep your uneducated comments to yourself thank you.
Well I've now seen 9 games. If we're going to win today, this is what it's going to take. Johnson is pitching so we need : Durbin 1st, Hinson 2nd,Ventling SS, Haney 3rd, Gabbard LF, Croy CF, Schweinfest RF, Kigar catching. After 3 we have to have Pritchard or Gio ready to go. We'll see if they realy want to win!
Reality - Isn't Johnson the kid that some FF parents were screaming to get cut in the pre-season for not showing up at some team functions? Good thing the coach stuck tohis guns. He has become a pretty important piece for the FF team hasn't he?
---- without him FF probably wouldn't even win a league game :shrug:
The second game in the series with Mason is tonight isn't it. I saw Mason over the weekend. Not too impressive but it was cold and I don't think they wanted to be there. Too bad the team they were playing did. Maybe FF can eek out one instead of losing the close ones.
BlueFan82
04-16-08, 03:58 PM
Bluefan Let's see is anyone walking in the dugout? NO! Name of website Yappi! Make all the little faces you want, like I said, already I've watched 9 games where were you? At the games, NOT, if you had been there maybe you would have something worth saying! Until you come and see for yourself please keep your uneducated comments to yourself thank you.
Uneducated comments? Probably right given my lack of baseball knowlege. You got me there. Congrats on watching all 9 games. I'm sure this gives you pretty much carte blanch to suggest the lineup/make criticisms/sing the National Anthem. Good Luck against Mason. Maybe you'll get to suit up and pinch hit tonight. RF is the man. GCPRO, it doesn't take much to fire up the Indian faithful now, does it??
AmericaOne
04-16-08, 04:36 PM
Uneducated comments? Probably right given my lack of baseball knowlege. You got me there. Congrats on watching all 9 games. I'm sure this gives you pretty much carte blanch to suggest the lineup/make criticisms/sing the National Anthem. Good Luck against Mason. Maybe you'll get to suit up and pinch hit tonight. RF is the man. GCPRO, it doesn't take much to fire up the Indian faithful now, does it??
BlueFan82: Be nice we have had a rough 2 weeks. Maybe God will look favorably upon the Red and White tonight and we can get on the winning side in the GMC...It is amazing there is not more criticism with the record the Tribe has. Lost some close ones, but the boys are not giving up...
AmericaOne
04-16-08, 07:53 PM
Fairfield waking up Alex Johnson pitches a nice complete game 5-2 win over Mason. Jordan Gabbard goes yard for a three run shot, line-drive type to left field. Yea!! Our first GMC win....
JUST THE TRUTH
04-16-08, 08:58 PM
IMHO How did you get out of YAPPI Jail? RF looks like FF won without your help. I'll admit it got a little scary more than once. Never the less thats 2 in a row.
Reality Factor
04-16-08, 09:52 PM
Big win for us today, regardless of how we got it. Really nice job pitching by Alex, and a nice shot over the LF fence by Jordan. Blue Fan I had my uniform on and was hoping that they would call on me to pinch hit in like the bottom of the 6th with 2 on and 2 out, but they didn't. I was hoping they would think even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then, O maybe they did.
IMHO How did you get out of YAPPI Jail? RF looks like FF won without your help. I'll admit it got a little scary more than once. Never the less thats 2 in a row.
I was pardoned by the ultimate judge himself. His ruling after reading A-1s post was justifiable sarcasm on my part in retaliation for A-1's attacks and utter lack of baseball knowledge and judgement on how a parent should act at a game.
Nice win tonight FF.
Reality Factor
04-16-08, 10:57 PM
TRUTH I heard that IMHO got out on work release.
Back to the topic, gentlemen.
Okay back to the topic. I had to scroll to the top to remember it because all FF topics end up the same, or so it seems. This is what it takes-score more runs than the opposition. The SP is the kid that didn't show up for the pitching/catching workouts-well isn't that wonderful. Well it seems that all is well in Indianville, so I guess the moral of that story would be if you can help us win a ballgame, all is forgotten. Did the closer, close?
AnonymousUserTres
04-17-08, 06:51 AM
Okay back to the topic. I had to scroll to the top to remember it because all FF topics end up the same, or so it seems. This is what it takes-score more runs than the opposition. The SP is the kid that didn't show up for the pitching/catching workouts-well isn't that wonderful. Well it seems that all is well in Indianville, so I guess the moral of that story would be if you can help us win a ballgame, all is forgotten. Did the closer, close?
The SP from Fairfield was sick all winter. I believe he missed 4 pitchers/catchers workouts and has not missed a practice since. Just jealous kids on Yappi.
DirtBall
04-17-08, 08:28 AM
Can this thread be over now and lets go back to the FF winning the GMC thread.:stirthepot:
JUST THE TRUTH
04-17-08, 09:50 AM
11141 just having some fun! Back to the topic. Now that we've won 2 in a row, let's clear the air once and for all. RF, you sat through 10 games now. Which game was the hardest to watch? The question is also open to everyone who has watched. This is what we originally started to talk about, not the A-1 bashing. Any thoughts?
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 10:11 AM
I was pardoned by the ultimate judge himself. His ruling after reading A-1s post was justifiable sarcasm on my part in retaliation for A-1's attacks and utter lack of baseball knowledge and judgement on how a parent should act at a game.
Nice win tonight FF.
IMHO: At least getting kicked out of a game I admitted I lost my cool. It happens a thousand time every single year in baseball and I had the support of the important people. You got kicked off a Baseball Thread that sounds like the ultimate SIN.:rolleyes: So I would not be too proud just yet...
Can this thread be over now and lets go back to the FF winning the GMC thread.:stirthepot:
Your right after two wins this thread is irrelevant now but I think the Will FF win the GMC is also irrelevant. So maybe we should just let FF alone for awhile until there is something to talk about again. Sort of like summer re-runs on TV it just isn't worth watching anymore. Come on FF give me a reason to pay attention again.
itsgone
04-17-08, 10:14 AM
The SP from Fairfield was sick all winter. I believe he missed 4 pitchers/catchers workouts and has not missed a practice since. Just jealous kids on Yappi.
I would think that most thought that something like this was the case, no matter who posted what. That too many parents perception is influenced by the Tonya Harding reality distortion field is sad, but another reality we must deal with.
IMHO: At least getting kicked out of a game I admitted I lost my cool. It happens a thousand time every single year in baseball and I had the support of the important people. You got kicked off a Baseball Thread that sounds like the ultimate SIN.:rolleyes: So I would not be too proud just yet...
:laugh: :laugh:
A-1 - should I get me "buddies" on here that have never posted before to claim they are FF parents and report your post as being "antagonistic" and ask that you get banned? Good try to justify your childish actions on the baseball field. You haven't admitted anything - all you try to do is justify it.
So now you are saying a parent at a high school game gets kicked out of the game thousands of times. I see our main problem A-1: I have a totally different outlook on how to set an example for my kid and other kids that I might have a chance to show an example of how an adult conducts himself than you. Thank you for giving me something to talk about again regarding FF because your play on the field has made you irrelevant this high school season.
Reality Factor
04-17-08, 10:30 AM
GCPRO All is better and no, the closer wasn't needed. TRUTH, I'd say the 1st 8. The pitchers in those games were kept in too long COLD! Then they thought Gio should come in after we were behind and hold them and us score runs for him. But the hardest thing for me had to be the 1st Mason game when the passed ball or wild pitch SLOWLY rolled in the dugout,allowing the runner on 3rd to walk in, and the runner on 2nd to walk to 3rd. The Coaching staff did nothing. I would have pulled that catcher right then, knowing I had 1 of the best catchers in the GMC sitting on the bench, if not the best. The kid pretty much did the same thing in the JV game vs Badin last year.
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 10:33 AM
:laugh: :laugh:
A-1 - should I get me "buddies" on here that have never posted before to claim they are FF parents and report your post as being "antagonistic" and ask that you get banned? Good try to justify your childish actions on the baseball field. You haven't admitted anything - all you try to do is justify it.
So now you are saying a parent at a high school game gets kicked out of the game thousands of times. I see our main problem A-1: I have a totally different outlook on how to set an example for my kid and other kids that I might have a chance to show an example of how an adult conducts himself than you. Thank you for giving me something to talk about again regarding FF because your play on the field has made you irrelevant this high school season.
IMHO: I never asked anyone to get you banned #1. I was trying to be a little light on that subject, today. And NO I do not think getting thrown out of a game is the ultimate sin, but I still see you are up to your old tricks. I also do not think you know anything about the game. You have done zero for the sport. I have at least had a VERY successful team and now organization that continues to grow each year dispite people like you who think nobody should get upset when an umpire makes a bad call. So welcome back. I had nothing to do with getting you thrown off. But I did hear that some of the kids are tired of your antagonism. BTW Put a team on the field and we will see if you can hang with my teams anyone of them. Fairfield is a fine program and you need to watch what you say about irrelevant.
Reality Factor
04-17-08, 10:38 AM
IMHO, Maybe they should have put you on probation! Looks like you're headed back to JAIL! LOL
IMHO: I never asked anyone to get you banned #1. I was trying to be a little light on that subject, today. And NO I do not think getting thrown out of a game is the ultimate sin, but I still see you are up to your old tricks. I also do not think you know anything about the game. You have done zero for the sport. I have at least had a VERY successful team and now organization that continues to grow each year dispite people like you who think nobody should get upset when an umpire makes a bad call. So welcome back. I had nothing to do with getting you thrown off. But I did hear that some of the kids are tired of your antagonism. BTW Put a team on the field and we will see if you can hang with my teams anyone of them.:laugh: :laugh:
Now kids were getting upset with my posts like they really care about you A-1. Tell them not to read them it is a free country.
Well some people never know when to stop. OK I am going to let you have it.
Been there done that and you couldn't!!!!!! And just so you know - you have more to do with your teams losing than winning so stop trying to take any credit for it. You hold very talented players back from competing and winning aginst the best teams around because you don't know what you are doing. Everybody knows that. You take credit for very talented kids but they don't win anything until they leave your organization. Unless you consider winning in lower division tournaments doing something. Moderators - I am not going to post anymore personal stuff about this clown unless he tries to get personal with me. Sorry - I couldn't resist.
Please stay on topic - this thread is about FF winning. What does anything you posted have to do with that?
IMHO, Maybe they should have put you on probation! Looks like you're headed back to JAIL! LOL
I am going back to the college basketball thread and the football thread atleast you can talk sports on those threads. To think I would rather discuss ideas with the Colerain football guys --- Wow I never thought I would say that. Oh well you can have some fun with those guys.
Really, once again the thread has spun out of control and I promised myself to be on my best behavior. But I have been told by a few that IMHO has had teams that have beat the Heat quite regularly.
I listened to the game last night on the radio and it seems that the Indians finally had some breaks go their way. Good for them. What is the deal between the WMOH announcers and the Mason coach? Something happened last year during the Mason-FF tourney game and I can't figure out what is up.
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 11:06 AM
:D :laugh: :laugh:
Now kids were getting upset with my posts like they really care about you A-1. Tell them not to read them it is a free country.
Well some people never know when to stop. OK I am going to let you have it.
Been there done that and you couldn't!!!!!! And just so you know - you have more to do with your teams losing than winning so stop trying to take any credit for it. You hold very talented players back from competing and winning aginst the best teams around because you don't know what you are doing. Everybody knows that. You take credit for very talented kids but they don't win anything until they leave your organization. Unless you consider winning in lower division tournaments doing something. Moderators - I am not going to post anymore personal stuff about this clown unless he tries to get personal with me. Sorry - I couldn't resist.
Please stay on topic - this thread is about FF winning. What does anything you posted have to do with that?
IMHO: You do not even have a team in the continental division of the Southwest Ohio League. You have spewed antagonism on every thread from what my friends at Colerain say. That is what kids are supposed to do win at the next level. I take no credit for my kids other than giving them an opportunity to get the very best training from some of this areas very best baseball trainers, while playing on a team that consistently wins at the highest levels. You must be so jealous as to continue to attack me and what I have accomplished. I am proud of every one of the kids who have passed through my team or organization as they are this areas very best. They continue to show that good training at an early age does pay off... It is a shame..you have such hatred for me that you are consumed with it... Remember we are a "Program of Excellence" and that does mean something, and is hard to accomplish...... Fairfield will continue to win and is alive and well. We have a great bunch of kids and losing a few games does not define what a talented bunch we have. And by the way go back to basketball.:) :)
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 11:18 AM
Really, once again the thread has spun out of control and I promised myself to be on my best behavior. But I have been told by a few that IMHO has had teams that have beat the Heat quite regularly.
I listened to the game last night on the radio and it seems that the Indians finally had some breaks go their way. Good for them. What is the deal between the WMOH announcers and the Mason coach? Something happened last year during the Mason-FF tourney game and I can't figure out what is up.
GCPRO: If IMHO has such a good program and teams, why did you have you own son try out for the Ohio Heat and not Team IMHO? Could it be good training, great facilties, or what could it be..certainly you would not want him under the banner that I founded...:shrug:
GCPRO: Did you see the FF vs. Mason game last year. You would know what was up....
:D
IMHO: You do not even have a team in the continental division of the Southwest Ohio League. You have spewed antagonism on every thread from what my friends at Colerain say. That is what kids are supposed to do win at the next level. I take no credit for my kids other than giving them an opportunity to get the very best training from some of this areas very best baseball trainers, while playing on a team that consistently wins at the highest levels. You must be so jealous as to continue to attack me and what I have accomplished. I am proud of every one of the kids who have passed through my team or organization as they are this areas very best. They continue to show that good training at an early age does pay off... It is a shame..you have such hatred for me that you are consumed with it... Remember we are a "Program of Excellence" and that does mean something, and is hard to accomplish...... Fairfield will continue to win and is alive and well. We have a great bunch of kids and losing a few games does not define what a talented bunch we have. And by the way go back to basketball.:) :)
:shrug: Do you EVER know when to stop?
Again - read my resonse to you. I have been there, done that and you couldn't compete. I have seen how your undisciplined team come into fields looking like a bunch of rag-a-muffins, I have watched your team warm up, I have played your teams and watched an undisiplined style that doesn't teach kids how the game is played at the next level, or increase their knowledge of fundamentals I have watched your team leave the filed losers many times, and I have witnessed your crying like a baby to umpires, parents, coaches, kids and pretty much anybody that will listen to you many times. You brag about having BUll Durham as a hitting coach. WHere is Bull in the spring and summers when the kids are playing? They rely on you during the seasons and we all know you don't know squat. You can't fool me big man becasue I have seen you in action. You are a fraud!!!!!!! Moderators I was merely responding to another A-1 attack on me. You don't know the Colerain posters because I do. They don't know you either.
Again - what does anything you posted have to do with FF winning? Please stay on topic.
GCPRO - I would have been lucky to have a player like your son on my team as I know I would have had a parent that understands what is needed to teach the game of baseball to a kid and would have assisted in that by reinforcing what I was teaching at home - not undermine what I was trying to teach as some parents do.
I didn't see the FF-Mason game and that is probably why I asked.
My son, let's see my son-I tried out for the Heat team because some friends were gonna play there for them. I had a problem with the whole situation from the get-go, but that was not my problem to be honest. I am not aware that IMHO has any teams at my son's level. I really know nothing about the Heat organization as a whole and yourself in particular, as I have stated on more than one occasion. I know some kids that play there, that is all. I know a few of the coaches that work with the younger teams. I was only at the practice for the 11 year old team that my son attended for a short time and from what I could tell the coaches seemed to have an idea on what they were doing. I know that particular team is only around .500 on the year and have heard some negative comments regarding the staff. I tend to make my own decisions and not listen to what others tell me. As for yourself and the Heat banner, I really only know what I read on here. It seems that you are proud of what you have accomplished and that is a good thing. I have always been of the opinion that it is better to let my actions speak for themselves and let others do the talking up/down about me. JMO. Thanks for the interest in my son, I think when all is said and done, he will be more than alright.
villeboy4life20
04-17-08, 11:41 AM
AmericaOne- You say how your program is all about your players and its all about the kids, but then you turn right around and say "You must be so jealous as to continue to attack me and what I have accomplished". And then in the next post you go to say "certainly you would not want him under the banner that I founded..."
Anybody who knows baseball know that in summer baseball the only banner you founded is the money part of it. Your players earned that "Program of Excellence" for you. I'm not bashing your team but for a guy claiming to be all about his players there is allot of me's and I's in your posts.
BlueFan82
04-17-08, 11:46 AM
While the back and forth between IMHO and A-1 is classic and should be required reading for every 3rd grade student in America, I have to say I am absolutely confounded as to why Fairfield continues to be the center for all drama in the athletics world. Parents (or athletes) second guessing coaches, and even posting "suggested" lineups on message boards.... AT LEAST three threads concerning this program...this for a team that has stumbled out of the gate. Fairfield is a good program. You have a good coach.
Let the kids breathe and play ball. Things will work themslves out. They always do. NOW, A-1 and IMHO, back to your corners till the next round.
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 11:59 AM
AmericaOne- You say how your program is all about your players and its all about the kids, but then you turn right around and say "You must be so jealous as to continue to attack me and what I have accomplished". And then in the next post you go to say "certainly you would not want him under the banner that I founded..."
Anybody who knows baseball know that in summer baseball the only banner you founded is the money part of it. Your players earned that "Program of Excellence" for you. I'm not bashing your team but for a guy claiming to be all about his players there is allot of me's and I's in your posts.
Villeboy: This was for a certain two people. It was NEVER just I. It was us. MY bad. It is always a lot of people that come together to put something good out there. But when people attack you the only way to defend is to say I. But you are right it was the teams that we put together and we recruited. But today it is going strong and that is the best part about it. If you were ever a part of the Heat you know we had the teams, not I but we.....
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 12:08 PM
While the back and forth between IMHO and A-1 is classic and should be required reading for every 3rd grade student in America, I have to say I am absolutely confounded as to why Fairfield continues to be the center for all drama in the athletics world. Parents (or athletes) second guessing coaches, and even posting "suggested" lineups on message boards.... AT LEAST three threads concerning this program...this for a team that has stumbled out of the gate. Fairfield is a good program. You have a good coach.
Let the kids breathe and play ball. Things will work themslves out. They always do. NOW, A-1 and IMHO, back to your corners till the next round.
BlueFan82: You know I am a controversial person. You either like me or can not stand me. The best I have ever heard is: When you have a baseball team to be successful. you take the 7 parents who do not like you and keep them away from the 7 that can not stand you and things may work out. This is a JOKE, but may fit. Fairfield baseball is good. We have some controversial people like BTL, the original gangsta who had a 22-0 Coach pitch team that was the beginning of what is now the OHIO HEAT. It used to be Jay bashing on here a few years ago but Jay (Leader of the Flames) is smarter than I. He stays off this thread. You get a big target on your back when you or your teams win and especially if you are an Italian, Outspoken, Stubborn and right most of the time. Oh Yea I have gotten rich from the average of $375 per year to play for the Ohio Heat like GCPRO thinks. NOT. I have put 20X that amount into this team.. But BlueFAn82 I like you, Keep it real and keep us in check. And I will remember to tell the parents NEVER question a High School coach, and do not bring your line-up to them.:mad:
While the back and forth between IMHO and A-1 is classic and should be required reading for every 3rd grade student in America, I have to say I am absolutely confounded as to why Fairfield continues to be the center for all drama in the athletics world. Parents (or athletes) second guessing coaches, and even posting "suggested" lineups on message boards.... AT LEAST three threads concerning this program...this for a team that has stumbled out of the gate. Fairfield is a good program. You have a good coach.
Let the kids breathe and play ball. Things will work themslves out. They always do. NOW, A-1 and IMHO, back to your corners till the next round.
Sorry BlueFan - I have some spent up energy that built up while in solitary confinement. As I said before A-1 started his attacks again - this thread is irrelevant becasue FF has won. We should let FF alone until there is something more to talk about.
AmericaOne
04-17-08, 12:19 PM
:shrug: Do you EVER know when to stop?
Again - read my resonse to you. I have been there, done that and you couldn't compete. I have seen how your undisciplined team come into fields looking like a bunch of rag-a-muffins, I have watched your team warm up, I have played your teams and watched an undisiplined style that doesn't teach kids how the game is played at the next level, or increase their knowledge of fundamentals I have watched your team leave the filed losers many times, and I have witnessed your crying like a baby to umpires, parents, coaches, kids and pretty much anybody that will listen to you many times. You brag about having BUll Durham as a hitting coach. WHere is Bull in the spring and summers when the kids are playing? They rely on you during the seasons and we all know you don't know squat. You can't fool me big man becasue I have seen you in action. You are a fraud!!!!!!! Moderators I was merely responding to another A-1 attack on me. You don't know the Colerain posters because I do. They don't know you either.
Again - what does anything you posted have to do with FF winning? Please stay on topic.
GCPRO - I would have been lucky to have a player like your son on my team as I know I would have had a parent that understands what is needed to teach the game of baseball to a kid and would have assisted in that by reinforcing what I was teaching at home - not undermine what I was trying to teach as some parents do.
You must have the wrong teams, as we are always dressed in the finest. You were an American League (Middle level) coach is what I recall you saying on a post a few years back...and Never beat us. But you can dream and call me names, but the proof is in the teams that are now alive and playing. Not some made up bunch you say you had. You continue to try and call me out but you know who I am and where I am during games. Stop up anytime and we can have a great discussion on the game. Stop hiding behind the Humble Opinion which you do not seem to have.
AND never say Fairfield is irrelevant. Fairfield has a winning tradition like the Ohio Heat has. What was your team, IMHOS Little Robots...
A1-I have no idea what it costs to play for your Heat team, or even what that comment means. I think you give me way too much credit for caring about any of this. I try to keep the comments, yours, mine, anyone elses, on a sensible level. I have attempted to explain any and all situations reagarding your program that I am aware of. I really think you have lost it! I wouldn't know you if you walked in my office door at this moment. I really have better things to tend to than track down the Heat organization. I disagree with most of what you type on here and really feel that you cannot realistically believe some of it. Good lord, my head is spinning today. I am gonna need some "down" time myself.
I mean the kid tried out and didn't make the team. It is okay by me. He wanted to give it a shot. I try to encourage my children to follow their dreams. My two older sons wouldn't have made the wsll all star teams at those ages if there was only one team as there is now and they have turned out okay.
You must have the wrong teams, as we are always dressed in the finest. You were an American League (Middle level) coach is what I recall you saying on a post a few years back...and Never beat us. But you can dream and call me names, but the proof is in the teams that are now alive and playing. Not some made up bunch you say you had. You continue to try and call me out but you know who I am and where I am during games. Stop up anytime and we can have a great discussion on the game. Stop hiding behind the Humble Opinion which you do not seem to have.
AND never say Fairfield is irrelevant. Fairfield has a winning tradition like the Ohio Heat has. What was your team, IMHOS Little Robots...
You have mentioned the Continental division and the American division - any more tries? Man I feel like I am on What's My Line!!!!
I use these boards to talk sports and have a little fun that is all. I feel good about myself as a person and don't feel the need to use a message board to try to make myself into something i am not. 22-0 coach pitch team? I bet that trophy is still wonderfully displayed by your buddy. Do they keep score in coach pitch?
SWO_Sports
04-17-08, 12:53 PM
How come every post by A1 sounds the same BLAH, BLAH, and BLAH? He's like a broken record. Like I've said before "From what I can tell by reading A1's posts you will never be right and he will never be wrong; even if he says you are right and he is wrong. I think you know what I mean?"
This guy is like a record skipping over and over again selling his "Program of Excellence" for Ohio Heat.
Whoever gave it to him/his organization, needs to read what he says on here and how negative an impact he has on the game. By the way who did rate his program "Program of Excellence"? Anybody?
Guys don't waste your time. Just let him keep writing his BS and posters/people will see his true colors on their own. I wish some of his Ohio Heat faithful could read a few of his posts. It would open some eyes for sure.
SWO_Sports
04-17-08, 01:22 PM
AmericaOne- You say how your program is all about your players and its all about the kids, but then you turn right around and say "You must be so jealous as to continue to attack me and what I have accomplished". And then in the next post you go to say "certainly you would not want him under the banner that I founded..."
Anybody who knows baseball know that in summer baseball the only banner you founded is the money part of it. Your players earned that "Program of Excellence" for you. I'm not bashing your team but for a guy claiming to be all about his players there is allot of me's and I's in your posts.
I think your right on villeboy4life20! :thumb:
ilovebeingunknown
04-17-08, 08:26 PM
with the exception of shiffmans start vs moeller for the first 5 innings the only pitchers doing good are johnson (1-0) and riggs (2-0) and haney has done alright just had some bad breaks so this team is going to be hard to get back on track unless either the hitting comes along or the other pitchers step up
While the back and forth between IMHO and A-1 is classic and should be required reading for every 3rd grade student in America, I have to say I am absolutely confounded as to why Fairfield continues to be the center for all drama in the athletics world. Parents (or athletes) second guessing coaches, and even posting "suggested" lineups on message boards.... AT LEAST three threads concerning this program...this for a team that has stumbled out of the gate.
This is unbelievable. Three threads about Fairfield baseball, and when I try to read on how Fairfield baseball is doing (I have an indirect interest), 90% of the responses on all three threads are two people fighting with each other that have nothing to do with the thread. Why do you have to waste our time with this ? Go somewhere else and fight.
What happened to all the fun? Regardless if the naysayers it is my sole reason for tooling around on the Yappi front. My favorite is to just make blanket statements with no basis in fact or who you may be taking out in the process and then hide for a period of time and let the smoke clear. Have to love it.
This is unbelievable. Three threads about Fairfield baseball, and when I try to read on how Fairfield baseball is doing (I have an indirect interest), 90% of the responses on all three threads are two people fighting with each other that have nothing to do with the thread. Why do you have to waste our time with this ? Go somewhere else and fight.
Oh come on - for a while there the only thing about FF baseball worth talking about was the antics in the stands by some of the parents. Now that they have a couple of wins maybe the discussion will come around to the players and how they play the game. Now just between you and me I wouldn't count on it but maybe that will happen.
Indians lose again on Friday night at Princeton, gave up 13 runs, anyone have the lowdown. It seems that tonights game has lost a little luster with the Rams at 6-6 and losing three of their last four and the Indians at 3-9. Will still be a big crowd I would surmise.
ilovebeingunknown
04-19-08, 01:01 PM
who are the projected starting pitchers?
luvdagame
04-19-08, 02:24 PM
This has become just a flat out joke of a topic. Sounda like Fairfield has some issues with parents? What in the world is going on over there?
Also, what happened in the FF vs Mason game last year that everyone keeps bringing up?
I don't think there is any issue with parents that is any different than other schools. Sure there are a few that speak their minds, and probably bend the ear of the coaches, but the overwhelming majority of the parents stay out of it, and keep to themselves about team issues. Perhaps because this forum offers some of these parents an anonymous outlet to vent their frustrations and offer their "expert" opinions it would seem that there is a parent problem, IMO there really isn't.
The team went into the season with high hopes riding on the fact that they are a heavily senior laden team with talent. The fact is, there are several of these seniors that are not producing as expected--on the mound, on the field, and at the plate. IMO, because these players have shown in the past that they can produce, as well as out of loyalty to the seniors, I believe the coaching staff is sticking with them in the hopes they snap out of it. Which is understandable to a point. Heck, two thirds of the starting OF for the Princeton game as well as the DH are barely batting .200. The question is how long do you hang your hat with these players before the season is all the way down the tubes?
AnonymousUserTres
04-19-08, 04:51 PM
I don't think there is any issue with parents that is any different than other schools. Sure there are a few that speak their minds, and probably bend the ear of the coaches, but the overwhelming majority of the parents stay out of it, and keep to themselves about team issues. Perhaps because this forum offers some of these parents an anonymous outlet to vent their frustrations and offer their "expert" opinions it would seem that there is a parent problem, IMO there really isn't.
The team went into the season with high hopes riding on the fact that they are a heavily senior laden team with talent. The fact is, there are several of these seniors that are not producing as expected--on the mound, on the field, and at the plate. IMO, because these players have shown in the past that they can produce, as well as out of loyalty to the seniors, I believe the coaching staff is sticking with them in the hopes they snap out of it. Which is understandable to a point. Heck, two thirds of the starting OF for the Princeton game as well as the DH are barely batting .200. The question is how long do you hang your hat with these players before the season is all the way down the tubes?
Sitting Alex Johnson doesn't make sense to me. And not starting Cody Riggs for the league game? Better get things together for tonight...
Fairfield gets to double digit losses tonight with a 5-2 loss to Badin.
My oh my oh my. Can anybody give some details of the game?
ilovebeingunknown
04-20-08, 01:08 AM
riggs vs chaney was the pitching matchup
riggs pitched 6 1/3 innings with 3 earned runs and 2 unearned only couple balls hit hard all night then burden finished the last 2/3 of the game radio said riggs pitched good enough to win and got the short end of the stick.once this kid settles down into a groove its lights out gave up 5 total runs in the first 2 innings then no more rest of the game. against miamisburg last tuesday he gave up 4 in the first inning then none the rest of the game throwing a complete game in which the tribe won 7-4. for fairfield to win it must be johnson and riggs 1 2 punch then haney closing it out but the tribe def needs to learn how to hit. with that the indians would be very successful this season. some highlights of the game would be fairfield getting 7 walks by badins staff and couldnt capitalize with a bases loaded no out rally which they only got one run out of it. haney sliding grab in right field. riggs cutting off a ball hit to left and throwing out the runner going to second to end the inning. riggs picked off scott starmann who was 4-4 in the game. radio said the umpire was squeezing real bad.
Princeton 12 Fairfield 3.
Has Fairfield packed it in tfor the spring? Where is the pride?
At 1-9 in the GMC and 3-11 overall I would guess the season is a loss. Too bad, I wonder where it all unraveled? Where will this lead? Ran Coach Hubbard off after being around .500 and for the most part being pretty competitive. Now what? Certainly not competitive.
At 1-9 in the GMC and 3-11 overall I would guess the season is a loss. Too bad, I wonder where it all unraveled? Where will this lead? Ran Coach Hubbard off after being around .500 and for the most part being pretty competitive. Now what? Certainly not competitive.
The current coaches have only been there for 2 years I think. Certainly they wouldn't try running off another would they?
I have been told that the FF seniors were not going to play in Thursday's game until an administrator intervened. Also the players were wearing their jerseys inside out, so as to hide the FF name. This comes on the heels of another parent eruption at one of this week's games.
Enquiring minds would like to know. It has been strangely silent on the Yappi boards as the Indians have sunk further down the GMC standings. They will play the Middies today and Monday with alot at stake. Who would have thunk it, 3-13 and 1-11 in the conference. This from a team that was considering itself a state title contender. This week they have even been far from competitive.
While it would be easy to place the blame at it's normal spot, on the coaches, what are the players' thinking. Wearing their jerseys inside-out???? WHo do they think make the pitches, make the plays, struggle at the bat? Help us out here FF faithful. It has not quite gone as expected.
I have been told that the FF seniors were not going to play in Thursday's game until an administrator intervened. Also the players were wearing their jerseys inside out, so as to hide the FF name. This comes on the heels of another parent eruption at one of this week's games.
Enquiring minds would like to know. It has been strangely silent on the Yappi boards as the Indians have sunk further down the GMC standings. They will play the Middies today and Monday with alot at stake. Who would have thunk it, 3-13 and 1-11 in the conference. This from a team that was considering itself a state title contender. This week they have even been far from competitive.
While it would be easy to place the blame at it's normal spot, on the coaches, what are the players' thinking. Wearing their jerseys inside-out???? WHo do they think make the pitches, make the plays, struggle at the bat? Help us out here FF faithful. It has not quite gone as expected.
Can somebody verify if the team wore thier jerseys inside out!!! What is up with that. Were they trying to end a jinxed season by doing it or was there something else going on? Why did the admins have to intervene to get the seniors to play? Who was behind that?
I would hope if they wore their jerseys inside out it was to try something different. Not playing seniors is just insane. There are 12 seniors on the team - they would have to pull more than 2 off the JV team. I think people are exaggerating. The boys have to learn to play better. The blame cannot be put soley on the coaches. Not all Fairfield parents blame the coaches.
the jersey thing was during the school day, they wear their jerseys to school, or so I am told.
When is the last time FF has had a losing record or have they. They would need a 10 game winning streak just to get .500. I know Coach Hubbard's last season they finished at .500. Pretty crazy stuff.
I thought they had 14-15 seniors on the club.
BlueFan82
04-25-08, 10:33 AM
I have been told that the FF seniors were not going to play in Thursday's game until an administrator intervened. Also the players were wearing their jerseys inside out, so as to hide the FF name. This comes on the heels of another parent eruption at one of this week's games.
Enquiring minds would like to know. It has been strangely silent on the Yappi boards as the Indians have sunk further down the GMC standings. They will play the Middies today and Monday with alot at stake. Who would have thunk it, 3-13 and 1-11 in the conference. This from a team that was considering itself a state title contender. This week they have even been far from competitive.
While it would be easy to place the blame at it's normal spot, on the coaches, what are the players' thinking. Wearing their jerseys inside-out???? WHo do they think make the pitches, make the plays, struggle at the bat? Help us out here FF faithful. It has not quite gone as expected.
WOW GC, that's just WHACK! That's the only way I can describe it...WHACK!
BTW, isn't this is about the time we usually get a visit from our friend
GMC02 calling for the coach's head on a platter? Maybe they took his
library card away at Miami?
Bluefan-as I stated earlier, it has been strangely quiet on the 014 front. Makes me think something is up. You know what is funny, you don't have Hamilton parents, BAdin parents, Ross parents(well 1 former Ross Parent) etc. on here talking up their teams, bad mouthing the coaching staffs, bad mouthing players. What is it?
BlueFan82
04-25-08, 10:56 AM
Bluefan-as I stated earlier, it has been strangely quiet on the 014 front. Makes me think something is up. You know what is funny, you don't have Hamilton parents, BAdin parents, Ross parents(well 1 former Ross Parent) etc. on here talking up their teams, bad mouthing the coaching staffs, bad mouthing players. What is it?
Yeah, A-1 has fallen off the face of the earth. In Hamilton, Bowling is in charge. It's his way or the highway, and the parents and players know that.
It seems SOME Fairfield parents, just making an observation here, probably need to sit down with their kids and teach them how to handle adversity.
If not, there's going to be a lot of Prozac sales in the 'ol 014.
Bluefan-as I stated earlier, it has been strangely quiet on the 014 front. Makes me think something is up. You know what is funny, you don't have Hamilton parents, BAdin parents, Ross parents(well 1 former Ross Parent) etc. on here talking up their teams, bad mouthing the coaching staffs, bad mouthing players. What is it?
On the most recent GMC stats on the web site the FF team batting average is .282. They have 61 RBI in 16 games = just less than 4 RBI per game. Only 28 extra base hits in 16 games just less than 1 per game. eam ERA is 5.97.
Coach can not hit and pitch for the players. Not hard to figure out - not enough hitting to go along with just average pitching = bad season.
A-1s kid is not pitching much. He was pitching alot early in the season but only has 6 1/3 IP on those stats. What has happened to A-1s kid? Did the parental blow up on the side lines effect his performance?
I know nothing of individual players but one can only guess where the ideas for the juvenile protests are coming from. It is said that any adversity that comes your way can only make you stronger, I guess the FF parents missed class that day. If it wasn't so comical it would be sad.
AmericaOne
04-25-08, 01:00 PM
the jersey thing was during the school day, they wear their jerseys to school, or so I am told.
When is the last time FF has had a losing record or have they. They would need a 10 game winning streak just to get .500. I know Coach Hubbard's last season they finished at .500. Pretty crazy stuff.
GCPRO: I heard nothing of the inside out jersey thing. My son did not do that and would not. I did not hear anything about not playing the seniors. No one thing is to blame for this season. I see many reasons and I would think that it may go back to the off season preparations. It seems like when you are losing nothing goes right. Look at the LW vs. Hamilton game winning with a suicide squeeze? When you are winning everything seems to work... Baseball Go figure.... I am just happy that the summer season is upon us in three weeks...
Maybe I need to clarify my earlier statement. The seniors not playing was not a coaching decision but rather a senior or two decision. Kind of a boycott thing it is my understanding.
goindians
04-25-08, 01:10 PM
It is unfortunate what has happened to the FF baseball program. I feel for the kids however the adminastrators are getting what they deserve. They had a good dedicated coach and the administration caved to a few disgruntled people. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO NOW??? I have a feeling we will be hearing from a1 once the season is over.
BaseballRepresent
04-25-08, 01:14 PM
Maybe I need to clarify my earlier statement. The seniors not playing was not a coaching decision but rather a senior or two decision. Kind of a boycott thing it is my understanding.
Hey guys i normally focus on NEO baseball, but i was interested in this thread, and some of the reasoning why the fairfield team isn't playing well is appalling to me. Seniors boycotting? What are they boycotting, the coaches? They're choosing not to play THEIR senior year? If I was the parent of one of those kids, I'd make him play because i wouldn't want my snot-nosed punk son ruining the season for the rest of the team.
Please tell me the boycotting thing isn't true...
AmericaOne
04-25-08, 01:16 PM
Maybe I need to clarify my earlier statement. The seniors not playing was not a coaching decision but rather a senior or two decision. Kind of a boycott thing it is my understanding.
GCPRO: I do know that we have had some fathers boycott the games because their son's were not playing. Then come back when they get in. I am there every game whether my son plays or not. I love to see my son play, I have no control over that, but I would much rather see Fairfield winning these games. I keep hoping they will turn it around..
C I feel for the kids however the adminastrators are getting what they deserve. They had a good dedicated coach and the administration caved to a few disgruntled people. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO NOW??? I have a feeling we will be hearing from a1 once the season is over.
when you say program you mean each level, the now sophs competed in the GMC as freshman and are now competeing as sophmores, so I can only believe that they will be competetive as juniors and seniors. The Program is doing just fine, it is just having a down year on the varsity level this year. The thing I am now looking forward to is seeing these indians knock off some of you big boys come tournament time. GO INDIANS
eye-I am not saying there are not good ballplayers at the frosh and JV level but there is a large gap between those and the varsity level. At the younger levels, different programs have different priorities. Kids mature differently, just a different animal. Not trying to set you straight, just that success at that level doesn't always equate in to success at the varsity.
eye-I am not saying there are not good ballplayers at the frosh and JV level but there is a large gap between those and the varsity level. At the younger levels, different programs have different priorities. Kids mature differently, just a different animal. Not trying to set you straight, just that success at that level doesn't always equate in to success at the varsity.
I know, I get where you are coming from, I am just saying that we hope we can continue to compete with the now soph graduating class. Hopefully they keep developing and beat the kids that they are beating now.
GCPRO: I heard nothing of the inside out jersey thing. My son did not do that and would not. I did not hear anything about not playing the seniors. No one thing is to blame for this season. I see many reasons and I would think that it may go back to the off season preparations. It seems like when you are losing nothing goes right. Look at the LW vs. Hamilton game winning with a suicide squeeze? When you are winning everything seems to work... Baseball Go figure.... I am just happy that the summer season is upon us in three weeks...
So are you predicting an early exit from the tournament for FF since you are only giving them 3 weeks more to play? I would think since they have some talent they could be a dangerous team for a low seeded team to play early.
Any thought on why your son has not pitched much since the start of the season?
goindians
04-25-08, 04:02 PM
when you say program you mean each level, the now sophs competed in the GMC as freshman and are now competeing as sophmores, so I can only believe that they will be competetive as juniors and seniors. The Program is doing just fine, it is just having a down year on the varsity level this year. The thing I am now looking forward to is seeing these indians knock off some of you big boys come tournament time. GO INDIANS
I hope the current frosh-soph can keep competing,however when the current Sr class were freshman they also enjoyed a great amount of success and as we know past results are not indicitive of future results.
AmericaOne
04-25-08, 04:15 PM
So are you predicting an early exit from the tournament for FF since you are only giving them 3 weeks more to play? I would think since they have some talent they could be a dangerous team for a low seeded team to play early.
Any thought on why your son has not pitched much since the start of the season?
IMHO: I could not tell you why they have not utilized him more, other than what they tell me and that is that they like him to come in to close, hold the lead oncd they get to that stage. They wanted to use him to close some games and pitch relief, with some "spot starting". They felt they had a couple starters and they did not have a closer or someone who could come in with the bases loaded and one out. They told him that was what he would do. Like I said, we have not had many games where this type of pitcher could be utilized. He will start and play a lot in the summer so you can see why I can not wait for it to get here. I think Fairfield is very capable of winnng some games in the Tournament and surprising some teams who have already looked past them. It would be nice for FF to win out and be the number 6-7 seed so they could possibly do some damage. It will depend on the pitching and defense. They still have a very good Oak Hills, Sycamore and Middletown. We must get strong play from our infielders in the next few games and better starts.
IMHO: I could not tell you why they have not utilized him more, other than what they tell me and that is that they like him to come in to close, hold the lead oncd they get to that stage. They wanted to use him to close some games and pitch relief, with some "spot starting". They felt they had a couple starters and they did not have a closer or someone who could come in with the bases loaded and one out. They told him that was what he would do. Like I said, we have not had many games where this type of pitcher could be utilized. He will start and play a lot in the summer so you can see why I can not wait for it to get here. I think Fairfield is very capable of winnng some games in the Tournament and surprising some teams who have already looked past them. It would be nice for FF to win out and be the number 6-7 seed so they could possibly do some damage. It will depend on the pitching and defense. They still have a very good Oak Hills, Sycamore and Middletown. We must get strong play from our infielders in the next few games and better starts.
Thanks A-1. Your right. If you don't have alot of close games there is not much action for a closer.
AmericaOne
04-25-08, 07:53 PM
Thanks A-1. Your right. If you don't have alot of close games there is not much action for a closer.
Fairfield 12 Middletown 0 in 5.
Fairfield 12 Middletown 0 in 5.
I guess the answer to the thread is play Middletown.
AnonymousUserTres
04-26-08, 01:41 AM
I have been told that the FF seniors were not going to play in Thursday's game until an administrator intervened. Also the players were wearing their jerseys inside out, so as to hide the FF name. This comes on the heels of another parent eruption at one of this week's games.
Enquiring minds would like to know. It has been strangely silent on the Yappi boards as the Indians have sunk further down the GMC standings. They will play the Middies today and Monday with alot at stake. Who would have thunk it, 3-13 and 1-11 in the conference. This from a team that was considering itself a state title contender. This week they have even been far from competitive.
While it would be easy to place the blame at it's normal spot, on the coaches, what are the players' thinking. Wearing their jerseys inside-out???? WHo do they think make the pitches, make the plays, struggle at the bat? Help us out here FF faithful. It has not quite gone as expected.
Lies, Lies, Lies. Nothing like this ever happened at Fairfield this past week.
AnonymousUser-I have some inside knowledge, so to speak, but I trust you. Wasn't there, have no way of knowing, just going by what I was told. I threw it out there to see if it was true.
ilovebeingunknown
04-26-08, 05:33 PM
so anyways to get back on track i know the season is almost over but if the indians wanna even be close to .500 they need to do this
start johnson and riggs as much as possible with shiffman being the #3
keep hinson at third
pull up ben ventling to play second then you have the brothers at 2nd and SS
put croy back in his natural position in CF
put riggs and johnson in RF whoever is not pitching when neither can play put haney there
schweinfest just needs to DH way to many balls falling in RF when he is there
constable DH sometime
either gabbard or holt in LF
hitting lineup needs to be
croy
hinson
A ventling
durbin
constable or schweinfest
gabbard or holt
groene
haney riggs or johnson
B ventling
and the coaches have to realize that johnson riggs and shiffman are the only CONSISTANT starters on this team haney has been decent but cant keep it close the whole game he needs to be first relief.
Between the lines
04-26-08, 07:22 PM
get riggs and shiffey's bats in the lineup somehow, somewhere. Each have been to the plate 3 times this year! Just Ludicrious!:shrug:
ilovebeingunknown
04-27-08, 12:34 PM
yeah the coaches have to realize that with a 3-13 record stuff is not working so dont you think they would change it up?? i dont understand why they are doing that its not like other people cant do the job because personally
riggs should be in the lineup
shiff and prichard can field better than durbin
johnson can hit the ball and they took him out of the lineup and DH spot
kigar CAN NOT hit the ball but they continue to start him
until colerain constable was struggling at third they finally moved him
why not pull up ben ventling to play second and keep croy in cf where he is best at?
why not start riggs and johnson as much as you can without hurting there arms? they are the only chance the team has at a win besides shiffman occasionally
FFBlackStallion
04-27-08, 06:36 PM
yeah the coaches have to realize that with a 3-13 record stuff is not working so dont you think they would change it up?? i dont understand why they are doing that its not like other people cant do the job because personally
riggs should be in the lineup
shiff and prichard can field better than durbin
johnson can hit the ball and they took him out of the lineup and DH spot
kigar CAN NOT hit the ball but they continue to start him
until colerain constable was struggling at third they finally moved him
why not pull up ben ventling to play second and keep croy in cf where he is best at?
why not start riggs and johnson as much as you can without hurting there arms? they are the only chance the team has at a win besides shiffman occasionally
so based on this assumption, you're probably thinking the coaches should put a DH for the catcher
Reality Factor
04-27-08, 06:43 PM
yeah the coaches have to realize that with a 3-13 record stuff is not working so dont you think they would change it up?? i dont understand why they are doing that its not like other people cant do the job because personally
riggs should be in the lineup
shiff and prichard can field better than durbin
johnson can hit the ball and they took him out of the lineup and DH spot
kigar CAN NOT hit the ball but they continue to start him
until colerain constable was struggling at third they finally moved him
why not pull up ben ventling to play second and keep croy in cf where he is best at?
why not start riggs and johnson as much as you can without hurting there arms? they are the only chance the team has at a win besides shiffman occasionally
I love being unknown, I would too. You may think you know things, but you haven't looked at the stats just like the coaches. 1st; How about putting Austin back at his postion at 2nd instead of messing up 2 positions? 2nd; Try Croy at short or Hinson. 3rd; Haney or Johnson at 3rd. Kigar is by far the best catcher they have, and if you knew the batting avg. you would know his is higher. How about finding the speed in the line up, did you or the coaching staff ever check times in the 40 yd. dash? Knowing who is fast and who is not is kind of important.
ilovebeingunknown
04-27-08, 08:58 PM
speed?? with the exception of croy and riggs and holt they are a pretty average you might be able to throw in ventling and hinson in with them 3 but for the most part not to fast.
holt-fast
croy -fast
riggs- fast
ventling -pretty fast
hinson- pretty fast
gabbard-average
kigar-average
johnson-average
haney-average
shiffman-average
prichard-average
groene-average
stacy-average
burden-slow
silvani-slow
constable-slow
durbin-slow
schweinfest-slow
Reality Factor
04-27-08, 09:31 PM
speed?? with the exception of croy and riggs and holt they are a pretty average you might be able to throw in ventling and hinson in with them 3 but for the most part not to fast.
holt-fast
croy -fast
riggs- fast
ventling -pretty fast
hinson- pretty fast
gabbard-average
kigar-average
johnson-average
haney-average
shiffman-average
prichard-average
groene-average
stacy-average
burden-slow
silvani-slow
constable-slow
durbin-slow
schweinfest-slow
And you have what to back this up? Oh, I know you have a stop watch built in your head. Once again you think you know something and nothing to back it up. That's been the whole problem with us this year. Too many people have been ASSuming to much, and you know what why say!
JUST THE TRUTH
04-27-08, 09:38 PM
And you have what to back this up? Oh, I know you have a stop watch built in your head. Once again you think you know something and nothing to back it up. That's been the whole problem with us this year. Too many people have been ASSuming to much, and you know what why say!
AMEN!!!!!!!
JUST THE TRUTH
04-27-08, 09:50 PM
I Love Being Unknown, your batting order, whatever your doing you need to quit. Some of the people you've named, are batting .0?? for a batting avg. . Come on get some facts before you speak PLEASE!
Reality Factor
04-27-08, 09:52 PM
I Love Being Unknown, your batting order, whatever your doing you need to quit. Some of the people you've named, are batting .0?? for a batting avg. . Come on get some facts before you speak PLEASE!
Good Call
ilovebeingunknown
04-28-08, 03:18 PM
thats just my opinion everyone is aloud an opinion right??
how did the indians do against st. xavier on saturday
The Big X
04-28-08, 09:06 PM
how did the indians do against st. xavier on saturday
rain out - no game
really, it seemed almost every other school in the area played on saturday and I always thought their field drained pretty well
AmericaOne
04-28-08, 09:21 PM
really, it seemed almost every other school in the area played on saturday and I always thought their field drained pretty well
GCPRO: Nobody was more upset as my son was scheduled to start against St. Xavier. Price told me he did everything possible to accomodate St. X but their coach stated they had three kids injured. It was BS for sure as they wanted to put back the game an hour and the X coach said no. The JV played at X. Price even asked that St. X play the Varsity game at ST. X. The Coach said NO. I think this is bush league and OHSAA should check into this kind of stuff. X did not want to play FF because they had Moeller Monday (tonight). Price should have pushed the issue. I may not know a lot but Varsity should have the first choice not the JV. If this is the case whenever someone has an injury to a starter they can say the field is not ready.
A1-let me get this right. St. Xavier, with a record of 13-5 was not wanting to play your Indians with a record of 4-13, because they had a couple of kids hurt and were playing Moeller on Monday?????????? OK-I'm buying it. Not sure the OHSAA has anything to do with it, happens all the time. Teams get to the end of the year, don't want losses, have too many games to be played, league games, etc. Sounds good to me though.
So we go from the end of last week where earlier posts said that Fairfield seniors were going to boycott playing (and wearing jerseys inside out), and then Saturday they are complaining that X doesn't want to play? Which way is it, do they want to play or not?
Maybe X just granted their wish.
GCPRO: Nobody was more upset as my son was scheduled to start against St. Xavier. Price told me he did everything possible to accomodate St. X but their coach stated they had three kids injured. It was BS for sure as they wanted to put back the game an hour and the X coach said no. The JV played at X. Price even asked that St. X play the Varsity game at ST. X. The Coach said NO. I think this is bush league and OHSAA should check into this kind of stuff. X did not want to play FF because they had Moeller Monday (tonight). Price should have pushed the issue. I may not know a lot but Varsity should have the first choice not the JV. If this is the case whenever someone has an injury to a starter they can say the field is not ready.
A-1 : Are you sure that FF wasn't saving pitching for the big FF/Middletown rematch? That game for position was WAYYYYYYY more important than any game against St X.
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 12:26 AM
A-1 : Are you sure that FF wasn't saving pitching for the big FF/Middletown rematch? That game for position was WAYYYYYYY more important than any game against St X.
IMHO: I am telling you exactly what Coach Price told me. I would not put this out if it he did not say what I said. We were ALL shocked that every other school was playing and not the X vs FF game. The JV played at X. It is sad that any school would cancel a game on nice Spring Saturday. But this did happen and I am telling you what I was told. I have it in an email also.
AnUnbiasedOpinion
04-29-08, 12:32 AM
St. X had nothing to gain playing Fairfield. And they had a full slate of GCL south games coming this week. They punted. It wasn't rain...
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 12:34 AM
St. X had nothing to gain playing Fairfield. And they had a full slate of GCL south games coming this week. They punted. It wasn't rain...
ANUNBIASEDOPINION: More like "PUNKED", this aint football. lol:eek:
Reality Factor
04-29-08, 10:13 AM
thats just my opinion everyone is aloud an opinion right??
NO, thats the problem. This year no one's using stats to make decisions. That's one of the reasons we're losing! Oh, and by the way it's allowed.
IMHO: I am telling you exactly what Coach Price told me. I would not put this out if it he did not say what I said. We were ALL shocked that every other school was playing and not the X vs FF game. The JV played at X. It is sad that any school would cancel a game on nice Spring Saturday. But this did happen and I am telling you what I was told. I have it in an email also.
Settle down A-1. Maybe the two teams will meet up in the tournament in a game that has some meaning and little A-1 can pitch agaisnt them. Congratulations on your sweep of Middletown - maybe that is what you guys needed to light a fire underneath you for the rest of the season.
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 11:05 AM
NO, thats the problem. This year no one's using stats to make decisions. That's one of the reasons we're losing! Oh, and by the way it's allowed.
Reality Factor: They certainly do not check the pitching stats??? Or do they know how to keep them??
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 11:28 AM
Settle down A-1. Maybe the two teams will meet up in the tournament in a game that has some meaning and little A-1 can pitch agaisnt them. Congratulations on your sweep of Middletown - maybe that is what you guys needed to light a fire underneath you for the rest of the season.
IMHO: I would have thought you would take the high road on this and not question the truth. Little A1 would love to get that start back and was looking forward to it. You do not find something strange when a team schedules you and then backs out at the last minute. If you do that in summer ball it is a forfeit. I do not care if they had to play every Jesuit team in the state. When you sign up to play, play!!
IMHO: I would have thought you would take the high road on this and not question the truth. Little A1 would love to get that start back and was looking forward to it. You do not find something strange when a team schedules you and then backs out at the last minute. If you do that in summer ball it is a forfeit. I do not care if they had to play every Jesuit team in the state. When you sign up to play, play!!
Again - settel down A-1. If the St X/Moeller game which was suspended last night at 4-4 in the bottom of the 4th inning is made up today poor Harrison won't get to play thier game with St X either. That is what happens in High School baseball. Teams cancel non-league games for league committments sometimes. It happens get over it. Sorry your son didn't get to pitch - I am sure they just moved him back to pitch the league game on Monday didn't they? :shrug:
Xuball11
04-29-08, 11:43 AM
Again - settel down A-1. If the St X/Moeller game which was suspended last night at 4-4 in the bottom of the 4th inning is made up today poor Harrison won't get to play thier game with St X either. That is what happens in High School baseball. Teams cancel non-league games for league committments sometimes. It happens get over it. Sorry your son didn't get to pitch - I am sure they just moved him back to pitch the league game on Monday didn't they? :shrug:
IMHO - Seriously, do you just lurk on here to continuously start things with A-1? Grow up a little bit....it gets old.
WHat does forfeit mean anyhow? You play the games to play the game. A forfeit? Take the win, doesn't matter. Coach Price should have just said when wanting to push the game back that he will have the field ready on time and then once they showed up just tell them we can start in 30 minutes or so. A forfeit. What does that accomplish? I guess it is all about wins/losses.
IMHO - Seriously, do you just lurk on here to continuously start things with A-1? Grow up a little bit....it gets old.
No. just talking to A-1 about the St X/FF game that was cancelled on Saturday. He is upset because he wanted to watch his son pitch against St X. Nothing wrong with that. I am merely pointing out that league games take on more importance than non-league games and sometimes games are not played that are scheduled. It happens.
If you got something more out of my posts than what I just told you I think you may need to take a little of your own advice. :shrug:
Xuball11
04-29-08, 11:58 AM
No. just talking to A-1 about the St X/FF game that was cancelled on Saturday. He is upset because he wanted to watch his son pitch against St X. Nothing wrong with that. I am merely pointing out that league games take on more importance than non-league games and sometimes games are not played that are scheduled. It happens.
If you got something more out of my posts than what I just told you I think you may need to take a little of your own advice. :shrug:
It's pretty easy to read what your posts mean.....said all I'm gonna say about it.
It's pretty easy to read what your posts mean.....said all I'm gonna say about it.
Whatever you say Swami.....
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 01:10 PM
WHat does forfeit mean anyhow? You play the games to play the game. A forfeit? Take the win, doesn't matter. Coach Price should have just said when wanting to push the game back that he will have the field ready on time and then once they showed up just tell them we can start in 30 minutes or so. A forfeit. What does that accomplish? I guess it is all about wins/losses.
GCPRO: I guess I feel when two people make a decision to play a game they honor that decision. The weather was nice, there were plaenty of fields to play on , and further adding insult to injury, Varsity typically gets the field not JV when only one field is playable. I think that has been the way it is done. It may not mean anything to other folks but when your kid gets very little starts and one is removed for reasons I consider "less than professional", and other kids wanted to play also, I must question the integrity of the person who decided not to play. I did not want a forfeit, I am saying if they had some consequences for not playing scheduled games then maybe it would not happen so much. Coach Price was quite upset from what he told me, and offered a number of solutions and the X coach balked at every one. Why didn't the X coach call Friday night and cancel the game. Again, it is done but I still think it is not right..
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 01:12 PM
It's pretty easy to read what your posts mean.....said all I'm gonna say about it.
Xuball11: Thanks. I do not know you but thanks.
GCPRO: I guess I feel when two people make a decision to play a game they honor that decision. The weather was nice, there were plaenty of fields to play on , and further adding insult to injury, Varsity typically gets the field not JV when only one field is playable. I think that has been the way it is done. It may not mean anything to other folks but when your kid gets very little starts and one is removed for reasons I consider "less than professional", and other kids wanted to play also, I must question the integrity of the person who decided not to play. I did not want a forfeit, I am saying if they had some consequences for not playing scheduled games then maybe it would not happen so much. Coach Price was quite upset from what he told me, and offered a number of solutions and the X coach balked at every one. Why didn't the X coach call Friday night and cancel the game. Again, it is done but I still think it is not right..
Come on A-1. Less than professional reasons? Do you know the other side of the story? Do you know who pitched against Moeller yesterday for St X? JV pitchers that is who. First varsity appearance for both. Does that give you an idea of who could have pitched on Saturday in a non-league game? Sorry your kid didn't get his start and FF lost a chance to post a win against St X but would you rather St X hurt their kids in order to play that game when they have 3 league games against GCL-S opponents this week? In addition to thier pitching their SS played 3B yesterday and looked like Ken griffey Jr. going from 1st to 2nd base on a hit. I think you know that kid from summer ball, he is normally a pretty good base runner. Nothing unprofessional about it when your coach told the St X coach your field wouldn't be ready at game time it gave him a reason to say he didn't want to play. It is not the first nor the last non-league high school game that will not be played late in the season.
Reality Factor
04-29-08, 01:36 PM
so anyways to get back on track i know the season is almost over but if the indians wanna even be close to .500 they need to do this
start johnson and riggs as much as possible with shiffman being the #3
keep hinson at third
pull up ben ventling to play second then you have the brothers at 2nd and SS
put croy back in his natural position in CF
put riggs and johnson in RF whoever is not pitching when neither can play put haney there
schweinfest just needs to DH way to many balls falling in RF when he is there
constable DH sometime
either gabbard or holt in LF
hitting lineup needs to be
croy
hinson
A ventling
durbin
constable or schweinfest
gabbard or holt
groene
haney riggs or johnson
B ventling
and the coaches have to realize that johnson riggs and shiffman are the only CONSISTANT starters on this team haney has been decent but cant keep it close the whole game he needs to be first relief.
A-1 You are right, they don't know who has what for an era. If they had a clue to what an era was they wouldn't make such a stupid statment. Oh, I know stats don't mean anything. I know, I'll E-Mail all the major league clubs and tell them that. Maybe they'll be able to lower the cost of a ticket. LMAO
AnUnbiasedOpinion
04-29-08, 02:24 PM
Come on A-1. Less than professional reasons? Do you know the other side of the story? Do you know who pitched against Moeller yesterday for St X? JV pitchers that is who. First varsity appearance for both. Does that give you an idea of who could have pitched on Saturday in a non-league game? Sorry your kid didn't get his start and FF lost a chance to post a win against St X but would you rather St X hurt their kids in order to play that game when they have 3 league games against GCL-S opponents this week? In addition to thier pitching their SS played 3B yesterday and looked like Ken griffey Jr. going from 1st to 2nd base on a hit. I think you know that kid from summer ball, he is normally a pretty good base runner. Nothing unprofessional about it when your coach told the St X coach your field wouldn't be ready at game time it gave him a reason to say he didn't want to play. It is not the first nor the last non-league high school game that will not be played late in the season.
Wow. That got me.
Can...
hardly...
type...
The tears for St. X are just flowing now. I hope they don't short out my keyb#$*(^
basesloaded
04-29-08, 02:33 PM
Are all of X's pitchers hurt or something? They gave up 15 to CJ on Friday, 12 to Badin the day before, and now they threw two JV pitchers against Moeller?????
Wow. That got me.
Can...
hardly...
type...
The tears for St. X are just flowing now. I hope they don't short out my keyb#$*(^
:laugh: :laugh: I can see your sympathy come thru my screen.:)
IMHO-I'm gonna have to side with A1 on this one. I was intially thinking that maybe the Indians wanted to avoid another loss but you do what you have to honor the game, regradless of the injuries. JV kids play varsity spots and freshmen kids play JV spots. League games or no league games you do what you have to do. No doubt when it gets late in the season and non-league games are bumped for league games but this is different.
Forfeits, still not sure what that accomplishes.
Are all of X's pitchers hurt or something? They gave up 15 to CJ on Friday, 12 to Badin the day before, and now they threw two JV pitchers against Moeller?????
Pitchers definitely need a rest. Tired arms. Walks and bad defense have been a big contributor and they need thier SS to get back to 100% so he can play SS. Most of St X's varsity pitchers also play the field so they don't get much of a chance to rest.
IMHO-I'm gonna have to side with A1 on this one. I was intially thinking that maybe the Indians wanted to avoid another loss but you do what you have to honor the game, regradless of the injuries. JV kids play varsity spots and freshmen kids play JV spots. League games or no league games you do what you have to do. No doubt when it gets late in the season and non-league games are bumped for league games but this is different.
Forfeits, still not sure what that accomplishes.
No problem GCPro - your entitled to your opinion. I hear A-1 is hosting a IMHO barbeque next week. You probably are on the invite list now :)
basesloaded
04-29-08, 03:15 PM
Pitchers definitely need a rest. Tired arms. Walks and bad defense have been a big contributor and they need thier SS to get back to 100% so he can play SS. Most of St X's varsity pitchers also play the field so they don't get much of a chance to rest.
Come to look at it, they have given up a BUNCH if runs most of the season. Not sure they are worthy of their #4 ranking in the city.
IMHO-dude I helped free you from bondage, cut me some slack. LOL! I already received my invitation.
Come to look at it, they have given up a BUNCH if runs most of the season. Not sure they are worthy of their #4 ranking in the city.
You are correct about that. I would over look them as they are not a quality team at all. :) I am sure Mason and the other GCL - S teams would share that view.
IMHO-dude I helped free you from bondage, cut me some slack. LOL! I already received my invitation.
:laugh: Its cool but your attempts failed. It took the big man himself (YAPPI) to get me out. I do appreciate your efforts though.
basesloaded
04-29-08, 03:25 PM
You are correct about that. I would over look them as they are not a quality team at all. :) I am sure Mason and the other GCL - S teams would share that view.
i didn't say they weren't a quality team, in fact offensively they seem to be very good, though all of the GCL - S teams pad their offensive stats by beating up on bad pitching from the other GCL schools. When you give up 11, 13, 9, 12, 12, and 15 runs in your last 6 games then your pitchers are either hurting or you don't have much.
i didn't say they weren't a quality team, in fact offensively they seem to be very good, though all of the GCL - S teams pad their offensive stats by beating up on bad pitching from the other GCL schools. When you give up 11, 13, 9, 12, 12, and 15 runs in your last 6 games then your pitchers are either hurting or you don't have much.
I agree with everything you have said. It will be interesting to watch the rest of the year which one the other teams think is correct about your last statement. If they guess wrong they could be in trouble during the state tournament.
basesloaded
04-29-08, 03:38 PM
has ollier pitched since mason?
has ollier pitched since mason?
Nope - he is one of the injuries.
SWO_Sports
04-29-08, 03:40 PM
Come on A-1. Less than professional reasons? Do you know the other side of the story? Do you know who pitched against Moeller yesterday for St X? JV pitchers that is who. First varsity appearance for both. Does that give you an idea of who could have pitched on Saturday in a non-league game? Sorry your kid didn't get his start and FF lost a chance to post a win against St X but would you rather St X hurt their kids in order to play that game when they have 3 league games against GCL-S opponents this week? In addition to thier pitching their SS played 3B yesterday and looked like Ken griffey Jr. going from 1st to 2nd base on a hit. I think you know that kid from summer ball, he is normally a pretty good base runner. Nothing unprofessional about it when your coach told the St X coach your field wouldn't be ready at game time it gave him a reason to say he didn't want to play. It is not the first nor the last non-league high school game that will not be played late in the season.
You have to look at both sides and put yourself in the other team’s shoes. It's coming up on final season playoff spots/tournaments. Your team has to be ready to play the games that really count. St. X has a shot at the playoffs, Fairfield does not. Yea, St. X could have canceled earlier but by changing the game time Fairfield effectively rescheduled the game. So now St. X has every right to say we can't play. Bottom line is Fairfield set themselves up for a cancelation. Do you really think you could beat St. X's starting 9, considering the very poor season your having this year? Would this game have made your season a success or failure? Life and Baseball are not always fair. If I was a player, coach, or parent of Fairfield I'd be more concerned about the up coming series with Sycamore and trying to salvage the season by placing 8th in the GMC instead of last. :shrug:
You have to look at both sides and put yourself in the other team’s shoes. It's coming up on final season playoff spots/tournaments. Your team has to be ready to play the games that really count. St. X has a shot at the playoffs, Fairfield does not. Yea, St. X could have canceled earlier but by changing the game time Fairfield effectively rescheduled the game. So now St. X has every right to say we can't play. Bottom line is Fairfield set themselves up for a cancelation. Do you really think you could beat St. X's starting 9, considering the very poor season your having this year? Would this game have made your season a success or failure? Life and Baseball are not always fair. If I was a player, coach, or parent of Fairfield I'd be more concerned about the up coming series with Sycamore and trying to salvage the season by placing 8th in the GMC instead of last. :shrug:
Oh no - you won't be getting an invitation to the barbeque. GCPRO could have used the company. :)
basesloaded
04-29-08, 03:45 PM
Nope - he is one of the injuries.
elbow again?
elbow again?
I am not sure. I am not that close to the players on the team.
SWO_Sports
04-29-08, 03:50 PM
Oh no - you won't be getting an invitation to the barbeque. GCPRO could have used the company. :)
You mean I just gave up a free meal! GCPRO, could you get me a doggie bag? :laugh:
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 04:23 PM
You have to look at both sides and put yourself in the other team’s shoes. It's coming up on final season playoff spots/tournaments. Your team has to be ready to play the games that really count. St. X has a shot at the playoffs, Fairfield does not. Yea, St. X could have canceled earlier but by changing the game time Fairfield effectively rescheduled the game. So now St. X has every right to say we can't play. Bottom line is Fairfield set themselves up for a cancelation. Do you really think you could beat St. X's starting 9, considering the very poor season your having this year? Would this game have made your season a success or failure? Life and Baseball are not always fair. If I was a player, coach, or parent of Fairfield I'd be more concerned about the up coming series with Sycamore and trying to salvage the season by placing 8th in the GMC instead of last. :shrug:
Nobody changed game times. St. X had their JV playing at their field, Fairfield had Varsity at theirs. The field could have been ready by 12:30. Answer my one question, what takes presedence a JV or Varsity game.Just call it like you see it. St. X. did not want to take one on the chin and if it does not matter that much why not use a pitcher that does not pitch in GCL games. Moeller played two games over the weekend. McNick Played 3. Badin also played. So St. X. was one of the GCL teams that did not. It is amazing that you would stick up for a team that did not want to fullfil their word to play. How hypocritical you have become. Life is not fair, works both ways. Sometimes when you do not have the players you need to win because of injury you just have to suck it up. And yes I do think Fairfield would have beaten St. Xavier with my son on the mound. We all have a shot in the tournament, and right now FF is solidly in 8th and may be able to move to 7th or 6th. But again all games should really count. If not why do you play them. It is done now but do not make it sound like it is no big deal. It did not affect you so it does not matter to you. It affected a number of players at Fairfield..and yes it did matter to them..:wallbang:
Nobody changed game times. St. X had their JV playing at their field, Fairfield had Varsity at theirs. The field could have been ready by 12:30. Answer my one question, what takes presedence a JV or Varsity game.Just call it like you see it. St. X. did not want to take one on the chin and if it does not matter that much why not use a pitcher that does not pitch in GCL games. Moeller played two games over the weekend. McNick Played 3. Badin also played. So St. X. was one of the GCL teams that did not. It is amazing that you would stick up for a team that did not want to fullfil their word to play. How hypocritical you have become. Life is not fair, works both ways. Sometimes when you do not have the players you need to win because of injury you just have to suck it up. And yes I do think Fairfield would have beaten St. Xavier with my son on the mound. We all have a shot in the tournament, and right now FF is solidly in 8th and may be able to move to 7th or 6th. But again all games should really count. If not why do you play them. It is done now but do not make it sound like it is no big deal. It did not affect you so it does not matter to you. It affected a number of players at Fairfield..and yes it did matter to them..:wallbang:
A-1: Your right. the game should have been played. I have always hated those Jesuits anyway. Always trying to get the upper hand in everything.
Can I come to the barbeque now? I heard you are a mighty good cook!!!!
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 04:37 PM
A-1: Your right. the game should have been played. I have always hated those Jesuits anyway. Always trying to get the upper hand in everything.
Can I come to the barbeque now? I heard you are a mighty good cook!!!!
You would be invited. I would like to invite XUBALL11, he seems to think you try to stir me up, or do the "A" word to me, He must be a GREAT GUY. GCPRO is definately in. He really knows what he is talking about. We need to have a YAPPI HERO'S BARBECUE at the end of High School Baseball. BTW I like Ollier a lot since he plays on our 17U summer team. Great kid and I hope his arm stays healthy. I heard he did a great job against Mason. And for the Jesuits. I like them too, just did not like having to go watch Moeller/Glen Este when I could have watched the FF/St. X game on Saturday. I mean I have kids on Moeller and Glen Este also so it was fun.
SWO_Sports
04-29-08, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE=AmericaOne;3075262]Nobody changed game times. St. X had their JV playing at their field, Fairfield had Varsity at theirs. The field could have been ready by 12:30. Answer my one question, what takes presedence a JV or Varsity game.Just call it like you see it. St. X. did not want to take one on the chin and if it does not matter that much why not use a pitcher that does not pitch in GCL games. Moeller played two games over the weekend. McNick Played 3. Badin also played. So St. X. was one of the GCL teams that did not. It is amazing that you would stick up for a team that did not want to fullfil their word to play. How hypocritical you have become. Life is not fair, works both ways. Sometimes when you do not have the players you need to win because of injury you just have to suck it up. And yes I do think Fairfield would have beaten St. Xavier with my son on the mound. We all have a shot in the tournament, and right now FF is solidly in 8th and may be able to move to 7th or 6th. But again all games should really count. If not why do you play them. It is done now but do not make it sound like it is no big deal. It did not affect you so it does not matter to you. It affected a number of players at Fairfield..and yes it did matter to them.
Some of the things you say don't make sense. The Varsity game was originally scheduled at Fairfield, Right? The field was not ready on time right? Was supposed to be played at 12:00pm. So you just gave St. X another reason to cancel. I'm not saying it was right, I'm saying I can understand why they would not want to play.
So Fairfield should take their frustration/confidence out on Sycamore and Oak Hills. Sweep these two teams and you will end up in 8th place (I'm talking realistically). By the way Fairfield is in 9th place (second last) right now in the GMC. Go look and remember the tie breaking rules. Again realistically you'll end up 8th place at best and could still end up in last (be real 6th or 7th). I got money says you won't end up in better than 8th place.
Now get over your adversity, talk with your game play, and win the rest of your games this season (that would be something). :cool:
Boys if you have seen me you would know there would be nothing left for the dog to have. I eat table scraps and everything in sight.
I have an idea, let's leave the Indian faithful to their own misery. I know it is very hard and my gosh they do bring it upon themselves, but let's try. I mean now the group is upset about how they keep the ERA's on the team. I am proposing a 2 week truce, that should get us through the first rd. of the tourney. What do you all think?
AmericaOne
04-29-08, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=AmericaOne;3075262]Nobody changed game times. St. X had their JV playing at their field, Fairfield had Varsity at theirs. The field could have been ready by 12:30. Answer my one question, what takes presedence a JV or Varsity game.Just call it like you see it. St. X. did not want to take one on the chin and if it does not matter that much why not use a pitcher that does not pitch in GCL games. Moeller played two games over the weekend. McNick Played 3. Badin also played. So St. X. was one of the GCL teams that did not. It is amazing that you would stick up for a team that did not want to fullfil their word to play. How hypocritical you have become. Life is not fair, works both ways. Sometimes when you do not have the players you need to win because of injury you just have to suck it up. And yes I do think Fairfield would have beaten St. Xavier with my son on the mound. We all have a shot in the tournament, and right now FF is solidly in 8th and may be able to move to 7th or 6th. But again all games should really count. If not why do you play them. It is done now but do not make it sound like it is no big deal. It did not affect you so it does not matter to you. It affected a number of players at Fairfield..and yes it did matter to them.
Some of the things you say don't make sense. The Varsity game was originally scheduled at Fairfield, Right? The field was not ready on time right? Was supposed to be played at 12:00pm. So you just gave St. X another reason to cancel. I'm not saying it was right, I'm saying I can understand why they would not want to play.
So Fairfield should take their frustration/confidence out on Sycamore and Oak Hills. Sweep these two teams and you will end up in 8th place (I'm talking realistically). By the way Fairfield is in 9th place (second last) right now in the GMC. Go look and remember the tie breaking rules. Again realistically you'll end up 8th place at best and could still end up in last (be real 6th or 7th). I got money says you won't end up in better than 8th place.
Now get over your adversity, talk with your game play, and win the rest of your games this season (that would be something). :cool:
NO adversity. You are the one that claims righteous indignation. I just made a statement that a team dodged Fairfield. Case Closed. I do not want to hear fabricated excuses or why a team would need a reason to cancel. I have heard all the excuses in the world. If they were that strong then it should not have mattered .. They did it, they were wrong, FF should be winning more, these are all facts. Keep it real. I would like to see FF win out but it is up to the coaching staff and the players to accomplish that. You are the one that does not make sense. I do not control who plays so I can not realistically have anything to do with it. No adversity just the facts....
SWO_Sports
04-29-08, 07:00 PM
NO adversity. You are the one that claims righteous indignation. I just made a statement that a team dodged Fairfield. Case Closed. I do not want to hear fabricated excuses or why a team would need a reason to cancel. I have heard all the excuses in the world. If they were that strong then it should not have mattered .. They did it, they were wrong, FF should be winning more, these are all facts. Keep it real. I would like to see FF win out but it is up to the coaching staff and the players to accomplish that. You are the one that does not make sense. I do not control who plays so I can not realistically have anything to do with it. No adversity just the facts....
Another A1 post gone wild! I like his "Case Closed" and then more sentences. I almost agreed with him. What was I thinking? If A1 gets this upset about a canceled game then it's going to be a Looong summer season for his OHIO HEAT. Here's my previous posted quote that applies to the big A1.
"Like I've said before "From what I can tell by reading A1's posts you will never be right and he will never be wrong; even if he says you are right and he is wrong. I think you know what I mean?"
Watch out A1, this kind of passion could get someone thrown out of a baseball game! Don't you think? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
SWO_Sports
04-29-08, 07:12 PM
Boys if you have seen me you would know there would be nothing left for the dog to have. I eat table scraps and everything in sight.
I have an idea, let's leave the Indian faithful to their own misery. I know it is very hard and my gosh they do bring it upon themselves, but let's try. I mean now the group is upset about how they keep the ERA's on the team. I am proposing a 2 week truce, that should get us through the first rd. of the tourney. What do you all think?
I think that's a good idea! But I can think of another way that would help the "Indian faithful" even more: letting them know we do wish them future success and we know that what a certain someone on here posts does not represent the Fairfield majority. A1-OK :thumb:
AmericaOne
04-30-08, 07:50 AM
Another A1 post gone wild! I like his "Case Closed" and then more sentences. I almost agreed with him. What was I thinking? If A1 gets this upset about a canceled game then it's going to be a Looong summer season for his OHIO HEAT. Here's my previous posted quote that applies to the big A1.
"Like I've said before "From what I can tell by reading A1's posts you will never be right and he will never be wrong; even if he says you are right and he is wrong. I think you know what I mean?"
Watch out A1, this kind of passion could get someone thrown out of a baseball game! Don't you think? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
SWOSPorts: Again, I was not upset. I got upset when some of you came on to defend what was done. In your eyes I am never right, so it does not matter. Someone asked what happened in the St. X vs. Fairfield game. I told them. Another came on and acted like it did not happen. SO I went into more detail. I am not that upset now, just can not understand how you think it is okay for High School teams to schedule games and then find and excuse not to play them. WOW.. That is it. It seems your convoluted statement about being right may fit you. If you read my posts, when someone is right I agree and even appologize when I am wrong, and move on. You are not able to do that because you evoke the Ohio Heat whenever you disagree. Even when you do really agree. You worry more about me being asked to leave a game, that really affected just me, than finding a bogus reason to cancel a game. That affected two whole teams. Talk about weird thinking.... Case Closed meant you can not defend what happened, it was a fact. The more I hear about it the more I know they were looking for a way out. Most have agreed... Talk about someone lurking on here just to agravate the situation. :confused:
AmericaOne
04-30-08, 08:17 AM
Moeller beats St. X. 12-7 as Pat Curtin goes 5 for 5 and gets the win for Moeller. Brent Suter was 3 for 5 with a Home Run. Good Job to both...
Boys if you have seen me you would know there would be nothing left for the dog to have. I eat table scraps and everything in sight.
I have an idea, let's leave the Indian faithful to their own misery. I know it is very hard and my gosh they do bring it upon themselves, but let's try. I mean now the group is upset about how they keep the ERA's on the team. I am proposing a 2 week truce, that should get us through the first rd. of the tourney. What do you all think?
Two week truce is good. I think I am going to take the opportunity to fast also so I am good and hungry for A-1's barbecue. :thumb:
IMHO-I knew you would be down with it. The way SWOsports has been attacking there is little need for us anyway. It is hard to stay away, I must admit, but time to leave it alone for a while. Where has betweenthelines been holing up? Having seen his ramblings for a while.
JUST THE TRUTH
04-30-08, 10:11 AM
A-1, WE have to let the St.X thing go for now. Both coaches were wrong. My grandmother could have gotten the field ready, and she has been dead for 25 years! We just have to tell the 2 new coaches for Fairfield next year not to schedule St. X ever again.
AmericaOne
04-30-08, 11:15 AM
A-1, WE have to let the St.X thing go for now. Both coaches were wrong. My grandmother could have gotten the field ready, and she has been dead for 25 years! We just have to tell the 2 new coaches for Fairfield next year not to schedule St. X ever again.
Justthetruth: I am done with the thing. I am glad Moeller beat them, and they played two games on Saturday....Beating Sycamore is the most important thing today. Hope they are ready....Sorry to hear about your grandmother, she must have been one heck of a woman...
SWO_Sports
04-30-08, 02:29 PM
Moeller beats St. X. 12-7 as Pat Curtin goes 5 for 5 and gets the win for Moeller. Brent Suter was 3 for 5 with a Home Run. Good Job to both...
Do you feel better now since someone beat St. X.? I know your son would probably have beaten them even worse. I'm also glad you feel vindicated now for the injustice that occurred this past weekend. St. X deserved to lose and got what was coming to them, right?
SWO_Sports
04-30-08, 02:37 PM
A-1, WE have to let the St.X thing go for now. Both coaches were wrong. My grandmother could have gotten the field ready, and she has been dead for 25 years! We just have to tell the 2 new coaches for Fairfield next year not to schedule St. X ever again.
A1, Read this over and over until you understand! If you can't have others you know read it and they will break it down for you. Acceptance is the first step to recovery. Good Luck!! Now go sweep the Aves!! :thumb:
SWO_Sports
04-30-08, 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GCPRO
Boys if you have seen me you would know there would be nothing left for the dog to have. I eat table scraps and everything in sight.
I have an idea, let's leave the Indian faithful to their own misery. I know it is very hard and my gosh they do bring it upon themselves, but let's try. I mean now the group is upset about how they keep the ERA's on the team. I am proposing a 2 week truce, that should get us through the first rd. of the tourney. What do you all think?
Two week truce is good. I think I am going to take the opportunity to fast also so I am good and hungry for A-1's barbecue. :thumb:
OK guys, it will be hard but I'm onboard. When does the clock start and stop?
I'm getting the shakes already from withdraw. :help: I hope this will affect my chances at getting an invite to the big barbeque! :Ohno: Who will be the first to crack? Let's do it! :laugh:
AmericaOne
04-30-08, 03:14 PM
Do you feel better now since someone beat St. X.? I know your son would probably have beaten them even worse. I'm also glad you feel vindicated now for the injustice that occurred this past weekend. St. X deserved to lose and got what was coming to them, right?
Just saying that although Moeller played two non-league games they still came out and represented. Plus both those young men play with our summer team and it was good to see them represent also. I am not sure if they got what was coming to them but it was nice to see....:)
AmericaOne
04-30-08, 07:36 PM
Fairfield 10 Sycamore 0 Cody Riggs pitches the 6 inning shut out. Danny Constable hits a home run..
ilovebeingunknown
04-30-08, 10:09 PM
3 game win streak seems like things are starting to come together
Who got the start against Harrison last night.
AmericaOne
05-02-08, 01:47 PM
Who got the start against Harrison last night.
Gio Silvani, got the start but left the game in the third with the score 11-11, had thrown 95 pitches, a couple errors and a misplayed fly ball contributed to some of the scoring, and Prichard came in and had a great 3-thru 7 to preserve the 15-11 win. Gio was not on but the best thing was we won the game. Was nice to see the bats come out. Was not a pitchers duel for the first 3 innings. Gabbard had a nice Home run to left field.
Gio Silvani, got the start but left the game in the third with the score 11-11, had thrown 95 pitches, a couple errors and a misplayed fly ball contributed to some of the scoring, and Prichard came in and had a great 3-thru 7 to preserve the 15-11 win. Gio was not on but the best thing was we won the game. Was nice to see the bats come out. Was not a pitchers duel for the first 3 innings. Gabbard had a nice Home run to left field.
A good win for FF as they keep building momentum for the tournament. A couple of GMC teams are on a run that didn't start out the season too strongly. State tournament could be interesting!!!
tribefan721
05-02-08, 02:19 PM
I wish I could get excited about four straight wins over terrible teams (Middletown twice, Sycamore, Harrison). I simply can't.
A1-11 runs in 3 innings is not good for the ERA. How was Harrison? As tribefan stated, I have heard they are really down.
ilovebeingunknown
05-02-08, 07:22 PM
but duriong this winstreak they have played GOOD BASEBALL yeah maybe bad teams but they stopped making errors and started hitting and pitching
middletown - shiffman throws a shutout
middletown - johnson goes 6 strong in a very very wet and cole rainy game burden for the 7th
sycamore - riggs pitches a shutout allowing 4 hits and bats really woke up
harrison - prichard pitched last 4 innings very good and the bats were awake from the start
every game on the tribes schedule could have been won.
nobody would have thought that johnson and riggs would be the main 2 they are both considered the "ace" right now they are both pitching stron with shiffman as the #3
nobody would have thought haney and prichard would have been combined 0-8
nobody would have thought hinson would be at 3rd
nobody would have thought ventling would struggle at SS in the beginning
nobody would have thought croy would be playing 2nd base
if you look at the preseason gmc threads its all about
fairfield
west
oak hills
princeton
colerain
and look right now
princeton was down
fairfield was down
oak hills was down
east has surprised
west was suppose to be good but not 18-1
colerains pitching has been unreal
but duriong this winstreak they have played GOOD BASEBALL yeah maybe bad teams but they stopped making errors and started hitting and pitching
You are using circular logic. They started hitting and pitching because they are playing good baseball. They must be playing good baseball because they are hitting and pitching better. :wallbang:
No... they are hitting and pitching better (and playing good baseball) because they are playing lousy teams. That is what usually happens. (and they are making less errors because the lousy teams don't hit the ball as hard).
According to A1 there were very critical errors in the Harrison game that led to the Wildcats scoring so many early runs. Now the mark of a good team is that they overcome those errors and obviously they did so in that game. They look to be on their way. Good luck Indians.
SWO_Sports
05-03-08, 12:02 PM
According to A1 there were very critical errors in the Harrison game that led to the Wildcats scoring so many early runs. Now the mark of a good team is that they overcome those errors and obviously they did so in that game. They look to be on their way. Good luck Indians.
How many errors would it take to give up 11 runs? Had to be some pitching issues also. Anybody know how many official errors were posted?
A win is a win but lookin good while doing it is better!
itsgone
05-03-08, 01:04 PM
No... they are hitting and pitching better (and playing good baseball) because they are playing lousy teams. That is what usually happens. (and they are making less errors because the lousy teams don't hit the ball as hard).
Don't agree that's what usually happens. Teams make errors based on their play, not the other teams.
AnUnbiasedOpinion
05-03-08, 03:12 PM
According to A1 there were very critical errors in the Harrison game that led to the Wildcats scoring so many early runs...
That's some spin of "a couple errors and a misplayed fly ball contributed to some of the scoring".
SWO_Sports
05-03-08, 05:41 PM
Listed below, I believe are the stats prior to the game that 11 runs were scored. ERA is climbing........excuses are nice, but stats don't lie!
G - 5
IP - 6.1
W - 0
L - 2
SV - 0
K - 7
ERA - 5.53
That's kind of ugly!
AmericaOne
05-03-08, 07:20 PM
Listed below, I believe are the stats prior to the game that 11 runs were scored. ERA is climbing........excuses are nice, but stats don't lie!
G - 5
IP - 6.1
W - 0
L - 2
SV - 0
K - 7
ERA - 5.53
Those stats are absolutely 100 percent full of shat.....You are missing 4 innings here with no runs and additional 2 strikeouts. Stats do lie. But Errors do cause pitchers to have to stay in longer. I said he was not on, did not have his best stuff, but having an error on a potential double play ball would mean zero in the first, out with about 12 pitches, not 30, in the second an error at short caused a run to move to second and then the runner is safe not out, a ball that was a fly misjudged then causes those two runs to score. Runs are mounting up. After two innigs 60 pitches instead of 25-30. Big difference. But stats do not lie.. Prior to this game he had given up 3 runs in 10 innings. Stats most certainly do lie... They lie every day. Either way he had a bad game, but they won. Every pitcher on this team has had a bad game, including him. That was his first, some were allowed to have three or 4 bad games. Stats do lie. Some of our pitchers have given up 8 runs in one inning without errors. So that is life. Oh by the way the 2 losses were after he went in got out of an inning giving up just one run when two were left on with 1 out then struck out the 4-5 batters, then the team scored a tying run, first pitch error, stole second, moved to third on a bunt and came in on a sac fly. Unearned run for the victory...WOW. Game two came in the 7th tie score went 1-2-3, then we did not score, then one got on moved to second on the next out, then to 3rd, on the second out and then induced the 4 batter to hit a sharp grounder to third, thru runner out at first but umpire called him safe. WOW another 1 run in two innings. STATS DO LIE!!! You must believe the batting averages are correct also!!! They are not!!!
tribefan721
05-03-08, 07:24 PM
That's kind of ugly!
OK, fellas, Gio Silvani may not be the greatest pitcher in the world, but stop piling on a kid for God sake. If you want to gang up on AmericaOne, fine, he's an adult, he can take care of himself. But stop degrading a kid. It makes you look pretty sad.
SWO_Sports
05-03-08, 07:39 PM
OK, fellas, Gio Silvani may not be the greatest pitcher in the world, but stop piling on a kid for God sake. If you want to gang up on AmericaOne, fine, he's an adult, he can take care of himself. But stop degrading a kid. It makes you look pretty sad.
I've never put down any player including the above player you’re referring to. I simply asked a question "How many errors would it take to give up 11 runs? Had to be some pitching issues also. Anybody know how many official errors were posted?” I stated that the stats were "kind of ugly" I would say that for any pitcher that had a day like that. Some of the best pitchers that ever played the game have had outings like that and even worse. No one said anything personal about anyone. Quit trying to make something out of nothing. :stirthepot: It makes you look pretty petty.
AmericaOne
05-03-08, 08:02 PM
OK, fellas, Gio Silvani may not be the greatest pitcher in the world, but stop piling on a kid for God sake. If you want to gang up on AmericaOne, fine, he's an adult, he can take care of himself. But stop degrading a kid. It makes you look pretty sad.
tribefan721: I appreciate you caring for Gio. He may not be the greatest but can be very effective used properly and I think has shown that over the years. He is not happy with his outing at all. He feels he let the team down, even though we did win. Especially when he had 0-2 on most of the batters he faced and did not finish the hitters off. It was not one of his better outing as he has had many more that were very good, some that were mediocre, and just a few that were like his third inning. He has a long summer and will do well as he has for the past 9 summers. I was more concerned with the 95 pitches he had thrown in the three innings than anything else. It was a non-league game, and it was his first official start. He had not thrown more than 35 pitches this High School season. But he will be fine this summer and in college in the fall. This has been a frustrating season for a number of FF players and families...I know what people mean when they say things like "how many errors does it take to get 11 runs". It may just take one to start things rolling in the wrong direction, why do you think some teams lose when they hold a 10 run lead, with two outs and have an errror that leads to losing the game. That happens in baseball...so is that really a question?? So if it makes them happy let them ask!!!
AmericaOne
05-03-08, 08:15 PM
Nobody is degrading the kid, just pointing out facts.
Degrading....is when you're constantly blaming other players and coaches.
It's a team sport!
76 Panthers: I did not take it as degrading my son. But the stats are not accurate. That is what is wrong. Did you get them from the GMC site? The 11 runs were not all earned, and again I would like to know how they scored them. I keep a book so I have them every game. There are many mistakes. Last year they missed all our away GMC games. So it effects what is reported. Some kids are not getting their stats reported correctly..
tribefan721
05-03-08, 11:51 PM
I've never put down any player including the above player you’re referring to. I simply asked a question "How many errors would it take to give up 11 runs? Had to be some pitching issues also. Anybody know how many official errors were posted?” I stated that the stats were "kind of ugly" I would say that for any pitcher that had a day like that. Some of the best pitchers that ever played the game have had outings like that and even worse. No one said anything personal about anyone. Quit trying to make something out of nothing. :stirthepot: It makes you look pretty petty.
No reasonable person would look at the posts I was referring to and think you weren't making fun of the kid and the dad. It's called having a brain.
SWO_Sports
05-04-08, 01:12 AM
No reasonable person would look at the posts I was referring to and think you weren't making fun of the kid and the dad. It's called having a brain.
I was commenting on factual data that was presented to me by 76PANTHERS. I would say those stats were "kind of ugly" for anyone that had them (including myself). I commented on stats not a player. You seem to be the only one that took it as "making fun of the kid". As far as the Dad goes I don't have to make fun of him, he does that to himself. I think you've had too much sensitivity training. Again your just trying to :stirthepot:. It's called an incorrect interpretation of the brain on your part.
I think things are starting to get a little too personal. Let's try to regroup and get back on topic.
Between the lines
05-04-08, 05:35 PM
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