View Full Version : Outlook on ITCL this coming season?
highschool22
01-10-08, 12:34 AM
What are your thoughts on the ITCL? who's out there worth looking at? Any stand outs?
Sebring should be good if they can find a back-up SS, and replace their CF and RF.
smartestdumbguy01
01-10-08, 05:49 PM
Two words.......WIDE OPEN
Lowellville has some nice returning players, as does Mcdonald. I think WR lost a lot of seniors. JM usually surprises some people. Leetonia had the best P in the league. I don't think Wellsville has much back. Southern can only go up. Sebring will be a good as their top two pitchers take them. They will have to eliminate mental mistakes.
smartestdumbguy01
01-13-08, 09:23 PM
Seems like the league is littered with younger players, might just come down to coaching...lets just hope the team you root for has the best staff.
RidgeRams2008
01-13-08, 09:39 PM
ridge baseball we had a pretty bad record but we didnt get swept by mcdonald so its all good.
Roundin' The Bags
01-13-08, 11:49 PM
Leetonia will return a strong team and hopefully with some depth... they will return their stand out pitch from last year, Ryan Gruszecki. And they will add a lot of strength in the batting this year. looking forward for baseball to start up :-D
The Branch
01-15-08, 04:37 PM
with the way scheduling is, playing league games on back to back days, the lower-tier is wide open. no team has a dominant 1-2 punch.
Roundin' The Bags
01-16-08, 04:55 PM
im not sure about that Branch.. i think i her something coming from leetonia that they might get the 1 - 2 punch they need.. but its a little to early to say anything
smartestdumbguy01
01-16-08, 07:30 PM
Although Leetonia is a scrappy bunch of guys, I don't see where they are getting that 1-2 punch that would dominate the league. They seemed to struggle with fundamentals the last couple of years and you can't win league titles like that.
im not sure about that Branch.. i think i her something coming from leetonia that they might get the 1 - 2 punch they need.. but its a little to early to say anything
I'd like to know who the mystery #2 is going to be. :confused:
United should have a solid pitching staff. A lot of questions everywhere else.
Sebring's #1 and #2 both return. They will need some of the others to step up when they play non-conference games during the week and DH's on Saturday.
United returns 2 pitchers, a shortstop and an all league catcher. That's it.
Sebring returns an HM All-ITCL SS, a 2nd Team All-ITCL P, the RBI leader (C), 2B, 3B, and LF.
smartestdumbguy01
01-16-08, 11:41 PM
Sebring is another scrappy bunch of guys, they usually hit the crap out of the ball as well. If they can get some pitching and better defense they should be near the top of the league as well.
TheRealVille#2
01-16-08, 11:46 PM
man im going to miss playing :( haha
Showtime 33
01-17-08, 12:01 PM
E.P returns a bunch of players. 3 first teamers in a p, ss, and cf. They also had a second team 3b. They have the best pitcher in the upper tier in my mind in Baiamonte and their lineup should be solid from 1-6. They just have several holes to fill.
Roundin' The Bags
01-18-08, 12:33 AM
if Leetonia doesnt get that mystery #2. i believe they will have a decent Defence and they might play the role in the league as spoilers. but i dont want to say anything till the practices really start.. cause you cant tell anything from open gyms because there are still guys in basketball
pickandroll
01-18-08, 03:49 PM
EP should be pretty good with Best, Biamonte, and Powers back, they should be alright. DiCello, Smith, and Snyder are going to have to step up and pitch the other league game.
tigersbball
01-18-08, 05:54 PM
Springfield is looking to return a pretty decent team this year. They have an incoming player, Stolte from Canfield, who just came to the TIgers this year. along with kibby as pitcher, and they have a couple incoming freshman that could possibly get a varsity place. either way, don't know if they'll be as good as last year. losing Dane Dobson is gonna hurt. along with some other senoirs.
Most of the Ridge players are involved in basketball so most can't really come to open gyms. Only 10 players have come to the open gyms. Only 5 played on the team last year.
Ridge has a lot of talent, let's hope they can show it this year. Since Coach Hack is the bowling coach at Ursuline newcomer Chris Jennings has shown a lot of work ethic at the practices and is stressing fundamentals right now.
He is going to be the JV coach so look out for them to be good and carry it on to next year.
The leader of the team right now looks to be Jason Ferguson. He has shown the most at practices. Others to look for are Evan Walton, and Joe Mulichak.
Go Rams
Ramblers08
01-31-08, 11:48 PM
The Ridge baseball program is needless to say terrible
The Natural
02-02-08, 03:40 AM
Sebring will also need to find some extra pitching for the weekends this year. does any one know of some underclassmen coming up that could help??
Sebring will also need to find some extra pitching for the weekends this year. does any one know of some underclassmen coming up that could help??
Agreed. There were some sophs that pitched in non conference games last year. They will have to step up. #1 and #2 will only be used for league games.
seabass
02-03-08, 02:08 PM
Some people that didn't play last year may significantly help the Bears, but that all remains to be seen.
Some people that didn't play last year may significantly help the Bears, but that all remains to be seen.
Gresecki will easily be the top pitcher in the league. The opponents will have to hold the Bears down, while somehow scoring a run or two. Runs were very hard to come by against Gresecki.
Remember, after taking a season or two off, it's very difficult to adjust to HS pitching. Those baseballs sometimes move in "funny" directions. Now it's there, now in ain't. :eek:
Who are the "mystery" players, as mentioned previously?
Sebring will also need to find some extra pitching for the weekends this year. does any one know of some underclassmen coming up that could help??
You seem to want to mention some names, Natural. Go ahead, who do YOU think may pitch non-conference games and compete for starting jobs?
Roundin' The Bags
02-04-08, 12:18 AM
Who are the "mystery" players, as mentioned previously?
i believe that Leetonia might be workin with a couple of kids that will make a nice addition to their team. but i have not heard any names
The Natural
02-04-08, 10:00 AM
dont really know who is coming up. just think that sebring will have to use some youth to get them through on the weekends. which isn't a bad thing i guess.
smartestdumbguy01
02-04-08, 10:43 PM
So Leetonia is the new hot bed for baseball talent in the league?
Roundin' The Bags
02-04-08, 11:25 PM
So Leetonia is the new hot bed for baseball talent in the league?
im not sure about the "talent" In leetonia.. theres only a couple of kids that are good from leetonia... Gruszecki being the #1 stud from leetonia
Leetonia will be very tough to beat when Greszecki is on the mound. Their ITCL chances will rely upon who is #2 AND the relief corp will be.
Ballheaven
02-08-08, 04:29 PM
Springfield still returns some good players and should be contender this year with Kibby and another good thrower returning. EP also returns Baiamonte and Dicello both with good arms, and had some other players with strong pats returning. Can't think of who returns for Columbiana but believe they also should be competitive.
Roundin' The Bags
02-09-08, 12:25 AM
theres only a couple of kids from columbiana that i remember that will come back. Josh Weikart and Ryan Williams
Columbiana is usually pretty strong. The Trojans were rained out last year and the game was never made up. I don't think they're on the schedule this year.
dizzy d
02-11-08, 11:09 AM
In my mind EP has the edge in the upper tier. They return two of the best players I saw last year in Baiamonte and Best. Baiamonte is the real deal pitching wise and Best just killed us last year, he has surprising power for his size. I've heard both of them are getting looks from d2 and d3 schools. Also watch out for united too.
smartestdumbguy01
02-11-08, 12:46 PM
I'll be honest..Biamonte, Best and Powers are good, very good but they don't have the supporting cast they have had the last couple years of either Dunn, Figely or Hanolt and Harvey. EP will win some games no doubt but they will be pushed by an improved Columbiana squad (with Knox at the helm they will get back on track) and Springfield, South Range, Crestview are always very competitive. I just dont think EP has the pitching depth to win on back to back days anymore, their catcher was weak last year, they just had the talent where it didnt hurt them. They've had an unbelievable run of talent the last 2-3 years but they are starting to come back down to earth.
Is Springfield D3 or D4 in baseball?
Besides their ITCL slate, Sebring will face:
Malvern (H) DH
Conotton Valley (H) DH
Lake Center (H) DH
Lisbon (A) DH
East Canton (A) DH
Aquinas (A)
I can't remember who else they will be playing.
Ltownfootball
02-11-08, 06:45 PM
Lisbon should be better then last year..They didnt lose much
They have Aaron Sweeney, there speedster
Dana Rose and Lucas Rambo for hits (dana for power)
Dustin Borg a good outfielder
Josh Jackson who came along pitching toward the end of the year
and had a well rounded Jayvee team last year
killerB's
02-12-08, 09:39 PM
don't forget that Baiamonte also batted around .570 last year and forms a perfect tag team with Best at the 3 and 4 spots.i think EP will be just fine. they return players like snyder, smith, and greene who got plenty of experience last year and have some solid sophomores comming up with shane egresi (outfield), austin pence (infield), and Baiamonte's brother C.J. Sokolick (Pitcher) to fill the missing spots vacated by past seniors like Hanolt and Harvey. not only that but the catcher (saldo) was never weak. he was a brick wall the whole year for every pitcher and had one of the most clutch hits i've ever seen in the district semi-final to win the game against springfield even though he had limited at bats the whole season.
and i was also wondering if springfield is d3 or d4 this year. anybody know?
smartestdumbguy01
02-13-08, 01:18 PM
You seem very knowledgable about EP, I know of some of the kids you are mentioning but you can hardly compare those young kids with the likes of Hanolt and Harvey. Their young kids are ok but they are hardly as deep or as good as they have been the past couple of years. I didn't want to use names thats why I didnt refer to players on the current team by name that I thought had some weak spot. They won't win 20 games like they have in the past but they will be competitive.
smartestdumbguy01
02-13-08, 01:22 PM
Springfield will be Division IV this year baseball...they have 127 boys and Div IV is 137 boys or less.
Springfield will be Division IV this year baseball...they have 127 boys and Div IV is 137 boys or less.
With Kibby, they will be a tough out in the tourney.
killerB's
02-13-08, 02:19 PM
ya i agree they will be tough in the tourny....until they play ursuline
pickandroll
02-13-08, 02:21 PM
killerB's, you seem to have the most knowledge of anyone i know about EP's baseball team. Who do you think will be their 2-4 pitchers after Biamonte. With the format of playing league games on back to back nights, Biamonte cant pitch every league game so someone else is going to have to step in and fill the roles that Hanolt and Harvey left last year.
killerB's
02-13-08, 02:25 PM
and i agree with u too smartest...hanolt and harvey were 2 quality players...but i just feel that some of these younger guys will fit into the system well and help the ball club out in the areas that they lost a lot experience
ya i agree they will be tough in the tourny....until they play ursuline
Ursuline is D3.
killerB's
02-13-08, 02:37 PM
after watching some of EP's games last year...
i think #2 will be Dicello, he had some good stuff last year and came up clutch in the district semi's
#3 and #4 will be a toss up between snyder, powers, sokolick, and smith
all have their own fortes and can come in whenever called upon
also i've once seen baiamonte come in to close for 2 innings in a game after pitching 5 innings the day before, he may be the closer in a tight game on a tuesday night as well
Ballheaven
02-13-08, 04:01 PM
Quote: killbs "they return players like snyder, smith, and greene who got plenty of experience last year and have some solid sophomores comming up with shane egresi (outfield), austin pence (infield), and Baiamonte's brother C.J. Sokolick (Pitcher) ............. not only that but the catcher (saldo) was never weak. he was a brick wall the whole year for every pitcher and had one of the most clutch hits i've ever seen in the district semi-final to win the game against springfield even though he had limited at bats the whole season"
QUOTE]
You're confusing me on your recollections.... who is smith that played??? If it's Drae, he sat the bench most of last year? And you don't even mention the better players coming up as in juriavic (spelling?). I do agree on Soldo being #1 catcher and was the best last year but for some reason he didn't get much time either. He also didn't get to bat much which was confusing to me because in summer leagues he was one of the best bats EP had. Dicello is also a plus coming back. Definitely the #2 pitcher and better than Harvey last year in the games I saw. Couldn't understand why he didn't get to pitch more either. He was also the clutch pitcher in the district final you mention about Soldo. I think EP might be a strong group if these guys get used to their potential.
smartestdumbguy01
02-14-08, 12:36 PM
Dicello is a tricky lefty, especially if he's worked at holding runners on...more importantly he's a quality kid but lets not underestimate how good harvey was...no doubt they will be competitive but I don't see the kind of talent this year or even next year that they have had the last couple years. Good Luck to everyone, practice starts soon!!
dizzy d
02-21-08, 02:15 PM
Ep has the best pitcher in the league and the two best hitters in the league in Baiamonte and Best. You could very easily make the case that Best is the best outfielder in the upper tier. Thats a killer lineup.. They killed us last year in the regular season and in the tournament. Springfield will be tough with kibby, the new guy from canfield, and have decent core of young players along with their catcher vis. Plus new coaching staff will get these guys ready to play. I think they might surprise a few people.
killerB's
02-21-08, 09:21 PM
I'm Still curious as to who this new kid from Springfield is. I've asked a few old friends from the Canfield team last year and no one seems to have ever heard of him. You think if he was the stud that everyone says he is, he would have atleast made an appearence in the state championship game at pitcher over the sophomore Kucek?
Can anyone give some reliable information on this kid? Because i looked at all of the Canfield rosters from last year as well, and i haven't found one person with the name Stoltle on the varsity, jv, or freshman roster? Did he even play last year?
heard ryan williams isn't playing baseball for the clips this season
killerB's
02-23-08, 01:57 AM
that's going to hurt, he was one of their better players IMO. is that because he's going to lift to get ready for college football? because if that's the case i'm not sure if Bensinger is going to play for South Range for the same reason.
Small ball
02-23-08, 10:58 AM
I'm picking Sebring to win the Lower Tier this year.
I'm excited about the upcoming season. Southern may be the only "weak sister." You will only go as far as your pitching takes you. Greszecki from Leetonia will be the only "shut down" pitcher in the league.
the Timko kid from Reserve will be a tough one to handle, i watched him pitch a couple times against Columbiana and he has what it takes, i believe he's only a sophomore too
smartestdumbguy01
02-26-08, 05:55 PM
The timko kid could be good...needs to be more consistent...in his first varsity start as a freshmen he held EP to 2 runs for 4 1/3 innings until the bottom fell out. He can be good but he needs to work.
[QUOTE=dizzy d;2945907]In my mind EP has the edge in the upper tier
Definitely agreed. I remember sitting through a 23-2 game last year.
1st practice was Monday. Definitely looks a lot better than last year. I think with the new coach even though he is only the JV coach he brings a lot of young blood to the team. Look for Ferguson to be a force at the plate, on the paths, and on the mound. Walton should stand out too. Definitely a senior led team this year. Should be a better year. It looks like only about 19 or 20 kids will be coming out. Still don't get new uniforms, I hate ours.
Possible Starters
C- T. Padovani (So.)
1B- E. Walton (Sr.)
2B- J. Mulichak (Jr.)
3B- D. Armeni (Sr.) / A. Pannunzio (So.)
SS- J. Ferguson (Sr.)
OF- D. Gustovich (Sr.)
OF- J. Miller (Sr.)
OF- R. Anderson (Jr.)
Ramblers08
02-27-08, 10:43 AM
The rams weak point will be there pitching.
Ramblers08
02-27-08, 10:44 AM
and i can't see them winning more than 5 games, anything beyond that is a miracle.
good attitude to have i suppose
TheRealVille#2
02-27-08, 03:59 PM
Wellsville's Keeping Low And Quiet ;)
Wish I was out there with them this
year! Got 1 more year of legion ball this
year though. Wellsville got its first Legion
baseball team in awhile or if they ever had one?
Woooo Hoooo!
Great attitude Ramblers
Pitchers this year will be Ferguson, Walton, Miller, Gustovich and Pannunzio I think are the only ones. They lost a lot in pitching when Wert, Elenis, and Gustovich graduated
ltvt2120
02-28-08, 11:33 AM
I look for the Rockets to come back strong again this year. They return a solid core of players and could still possibly have a deep pitching staff and a great lineup. With a few south paws and returning starters Skelley and Vocature leading the pitching staff. The Rockets look to be the first to go back to back in the ITCL. I guaransheed it...
smartestdumbguy01
02-28-08, 11:46 AM
now, lets not get crazy...
ReesMcd3621
02-28-08, 06:17 PM
Mcdonald should be in the running to win the lower tier. despite losing Logar and Hughes this year they have alot of returning people that did great last year....Dont over look them..
Stallion0815
02-28-08, 06:29 PM
McDonald does have a lot of young talent, but they only have a few seniors. The standout sophomores that they have this year did great as freshmen last year. Accordino has been hitting the weights hard, and looks as if he's going to be a force. I think McDonald will surprise a lot of people this year.
It doesn't matter how good or bad Mineral Ridge does the McDonald games are the whole season really for me at Mineral Ridge at least
ltvt2120
03-02-08, 11:31 PM
The league should be decided the first and last home and home series of the season: Lowellville/Sebring, Lowellville/McDonald. The four returning starters in the field include the lead off, 3rd, and 9th batters and a solid third baseman. Losing Opincarne is obviously huge, but the Rockets were able to win most of the games vs the stud of the opposing team. The next game of the series was more often than not a blow out in favor of Lowellville. Vocature and Skelley both have good stuff, while incoming starters show great potential. If the defense falls into place i believe the Rockets should easily be at least 2nd favorite to win the league
Any word on South Range and there team? Seems all is quiet out there. Any one players to look for?
TheRealVille#2
03-07-08, 04:34 PM
Anyone wanna go with some Pre-Season Rankings
on how all the teams in each tier will Finish?
Sebring
McDonald
Leetonia
Western Reserve
Lowellville
Wellsville
Jackson-Milton
Southern
Don't really know much of any team. Just picking from what i know last year
and switching a few teams around.
i think that it's going to look like this:
Leetonia
Lowellville
McDonald
Sebring
Western Reserve
Jackson-Milton
Southern
Wellsville
put in the number standings where you want, but the league will be a five team race with the other three being the dark horses who can upset anyone on any given night.
TheRealVille#2
03-07-08, 11:30 PM
Wellsville Graduated 4 Seniors Last Year.
Buzzard - 1st - First team ITCL
McKay - SS, P - Second team ITCL
Dalrymple - 2nd
Cataldo - CF
Wellsville Returns -
J Dalrymple, SO - 3rd, SS, RHP
Lombardozi, SO - OF, 2nd
LeClair, SO - C
Coven, SR - 3rd, SS, RHP
Kelly, JR - 1st, LHP
Rudder, SR - OF
all Starters last year.
Wellsville shouldn't of done as bad as they did last year.
Lost alot of close games, Lossed by 1 to at both McDonald and
Western Reserve.
TheRealVille#2
03-07-08, 11:58 PM
Wellsville Tigers 2007 (6-15)
Buzzard was a hitting Machine!
and McKay had 5 of 6 Tiger Wins.
March 26 Leetonia Home 7-6 Win - Played A Great Game. Buzzard 3 Run HR
March 27 Leetonia Home 1-12 Loss - Didn't Come To Play.
March 30 Oak Glen Away 11-12 Loss - Left Runners on 1st-3rd In Last Inning.
April 2 Jackson Milton Away 13-15 Loss - JM Walk off 2 R HR in Bottom 8th.
April 3 Jackson Milton Home 1-12 Loss - Didn't Come To Play Again.
April 5 Oak Glen Home 4-7 Loss - Cold Game, Left Bases Loaded in Bottom 7.
April 7 Beaver Local Home 8-18 Loss - Tied at 8 in Bottom 6th.
April 10 Lowellville Home 2-12 Loss - Just got Beat.
April 11 Lowellville Away 10 runned Loss - Got Beat Bad.
April 14 Conotton Valley Away 3-4 Loss - Blew Lead in Bottom 7.
April 14 Conotton Valley Away 5-1 Win - McKay 3 Hitter.
April 17 Sebring Away 1-10 Loss - Just Got Beat.
April 18 Sebring Away 10 Runned Loss - Played without 4 starters.
April 21 East Liverpool Away 16-0 Win - McKay Started Both Games.
April 21 East Liverpool Away 9-2 Win - EL Without Nate Howard.
April 23 Southern Local 5:00 pm 17-7 Win - J Dalrymple Got The Win.
April 24 Southern Local 5:00 pm 10-0 Win - McKay 0 Hits In 5 Innings.
April 25 Western Reserve 2-6 Loss - Led 2-0 untill 6th Inning.
April 26 Western Reserve 3-5 Loss - Good Game. Buzzard with a HR
April 30 McDonald 4-5 Loss - Left Runners on 2nd-3rd Bottom 7th.
May 1 McDonald 2-3 Loss - Left Runners on 1st-2nd In 7th.
i put them in alphabetical order... if you read what i wrote, you'd understand that
TheRealVille#2
03-08-08, 12:04 AM
i put them in alphabetical order... if you read what i wrote, you'd understand that
oh didn't understand that.
my bad..
gotcha now
Mcdblue13
03-09-08, 12:20 AM
mcdonald will be a contender for the lower tier of the itcl again. There are many talented players returning. Kirk Manofsky is going to be a big asset to our team. he didnt play last year but this year he may be one of the better players in the league.
McDonalds lineup looks something like this right now.
P- N.Gatta, M.Gatta, Rachilla, Baker, and Puntel.
C-Lowry or Colla
1B-N.Gatta, M.Gatta
2B- Rees
SS-Baker
3B-Rachilla
OF-Accordino, Thomas, Fossaceca, Puntel
7 returning letter winners. Should be a good season this year. Im looking for Leetonia, Sebring, and McDonald to all be in the hunt.
Is Joe Celli still an assistant coach at McD?
TheRealVille#2
03-14-08, 12:02 AM
Wellsville opens up..
@ Western Reserve - March 31
Western Reserve - April 1
any other games?
pcell, yes hes coaching jv.
McDonald plays the same days realville against Jackson Milton but idk when they play where.
Roundin' The Bags
03-14-08, 04:02 PM
Leetonia Has 6 games the first week. how many will be played? depends on field and weather
Monday - @ Sounthern Local
Tuesday - vs Southern Local
Thursday - vs Mineral Ridge
Friday - @ Crestview
Saturday - vs Lisbon DH
Small ball
03-14-08, 09:11 PM
Sebring opens up @ home against Lowellville March 31.
TheRealVille#2
03-14-08, 10:48 PM
Opening Day March 31st
Wellsville @ Western Reserve
Leetonia @ Southern (If they have a team)
Lowellville @ Sebring
Jackson-Milton @ McDonald (Not sure if its @ McDonald)
Mineral Ridge plays Springfield I don't know if it's home or away
Sebring returns:
C-Rastetter(Jr.) 3rd year starter
1B/UT-Tieche(Sr.) 4th year starter
2B-Eaton(So.) 2nd year starter
SS-Jurica(Jr.) 3rd year starter
3B-Weekly(Jr.) 3rd year starter
LF-Hallett(Sr.) 2nd year starter
P-Tieche, Jurica
Looking for time: Irwin (Jr.), Brandon Mitzel (So.), Brett Mitzel (Sr.), Keene (Jr.), Whitlatch (Fr.), Rhinehart (Fr.), and Good (Fr.).
Eaton, Weekly, Brandon Mitzel, Whitlatch, and Good should also see some time on the mound.
TBD: CF, RF, 1B, SS when Jurica is pitching.
Mineral Ridge doesn't have enough girls to field a softball team and two of the better girls are going to play baseball.
AllYapp1
03-24-08, 10:46 PM
Whats the word on uniteds baseball and softball?
killerB's
03-30-08, 09:51 PM
its about time! not to jinx us, but hopefully the rain stays away.
Please post all of the league scores.
TheRealVille#2
03-30-08, 11:00 PM
Good luck to all teams tomorrow if they get the games in
Looks about a few rain showers and cloudy tomorrow and
tuesday around the area.
McDonald @ Jackson Milton is a no go.
killerB's
03-31-08, 03:41 PM
ep-crestview is cancelled as well
TheRealVille#2
03-31-08, 03:47 PM
I bet most, If not all, ITCL games will be cancelled today and tomorrow.
Sebring-Lowellville off for tonight. They are to meet at Cene Park tomorrow night at 7:00.
which field they playin on tomorrow?
which field they playin on tomorrow?
I never know. I just drive there and look for the Trojans.
McDonald and Milton off again.
TheRealVille#2
04-01-08, 07:24 PM
Wellsville and Western off again as well.
Wellsville plays friday @ Home against Oak Glen
but that will probally end up bein cancelled aswell!
wellsville/western reserve games are being made up tomorrow(@WR) and thursday(@'Ville)
sure about that 3sport? McDonald was to play Wellsville thursday because they couldnt play on the date that was set.
pickandroll
04-01-08, 09:06 PM
Were there any games that were played today and if so what were the scores?
McDonald now has
Wednesday @ Jackson Milton
Thursday vs Wellsville
Friday vs Jackson Milton
Saturday vs Girard (dh)
That probally until another one of those gets rained out ha.
Sebring-Lowellville at Sebring on Wednesday.
Sebring-Lowellville at Cene Park on Thursday.
The Trojans and their fans made the long drive to Cene this evening, only to be stopped by someone's scheduling ineptitude. Seems there was an umpire scheduling screw up, forcing the 5:00 game to start around 6:30. They wanted the 7:00 game to start at 8:30 or 9:00. A little late on a school night. They'll keep trying.
AllYapp1
04-01-08, 11:18 PM
United Eagles 17
Columbiana Clippers 8
thats a somewhat surprising result for the Clips
TheRealVille#2
04-02-08, 08:28 PM
Western Reserve 6
Wellsville 2
United is 2-0
beats Malvern 11-10 in a non league game
TheRealVille#2
04-02-08, 08:43 PM
any other games played this week, fill me in on the itcl standings thread
Sebring and Lowellville will finish the first game tomorrow, then play game #2. Lowellville leads, 6-4, after 6. It's been Merry Christmas to the Rockets so far. The Trojans have committed four errors and left 13 on base. Yes, you read that right, 13 LOB. :wallbang:
killerB's
04-02-08, 10:51 PM
ep 2
cr 0
baiamonte goes 5 innings, giving up one hit
dicello goes 2 innings, giving up 0 hits
confused
04-03-08, 08:50 PM
thats a somewhat surprising result for the Clips
Not really, since Knox is starting from scratch.
AllYapp1
04-03-08, 09:31 PM
United lost to the clipps tonight 7-4
TheRealVille#2
04-03-08, 09:36 PM
Way to split the series,
especially if Clips are a team
starting from scratch!
Congrats Clips!
Sebring-3
Lowellville-0
four-hitter.
Lowellville won last night, 6-4, on a game originally stopped because of darkness. Perhaps Lowellville's head coach could take some lessons from Mike Mangine on being a man of his word.
Lowellville was 30 minutes late arriving in Sebring for last night's game. The coaches agreed, that because of Lowellville's late arrival, the game would not be called because of darkeness. There was a discussion after the 5th innning, of a tie game, to play one more inning, then finish up the following night. At the end of six, the coaches shook hands and made a gentleman's agreement to complete the game on Thursday night. Upon arrival at Cene Park, the Trojans found out that Lowellville's coach had called the ITCL Commissioner and wanted the win. Based upon the game having gone more than five innings, the Commissioner agreed. Looks like gentlemens' agreements and hand shakes don't mean much.
TheRealVille#2
04-03-08, 10:46 PM
is Lowellville's coach the same from last year?
is Lowellville's coach the same from last year?
Yes. He seems like a good guy. :shrug:
"Lowellville's coach had called the ITCL Commissioner and wanted the win. Based upon the game having gone more than five innings, the Commissioner agreed. Looks like gentlemens' agreements and hand shakes don't mean much"
This doesn't surprise me...Sam the Snake at it again.
TheRealVille#2
04-04-08, 12:18 PM
yeah, I thought he was a pretty cool guy too.
Didn't think he'd do something like that?
smartestdumbguy01
04-04-08, 12:33 PM
Wow I thought that nickname was made up!!!! You mean to tell me thats actually what people call him...huh makes you think.
Just another reason to dislike Lowellville.
smartestdumbguy01
04-04-08, 02:56 PM
hey now ZOT...they did produce Kelly Pavlik so you gotta give them credit for that and they also have...ummm...ummm...the Rocket Cafe with the best food in the county.
I wonder if there is a forfeit rule in the ITCL for a team being 30 minutes late...just some food for thought
Small ball
04-04-08, 04:11 PM
Just a huge lack of integrity and and no class by their coach. By the way their kids acted in the dugout it seems to have rubbed off on the players also. He must remember what comes around goes around.
Nothing against the citizens of Lowellville. They've always been very classy and very nice people. I don't want to lump them together with the actions of the gentleman in the third base coach's box, who resides in another city. The players were a little "verbal," but if the coach condones it.................
pickandroll
04-04-08, 06:14 PM
on the lines of being "verbal", anyone who has seen East Palestine play the past few years knows that they are possibly the most verbal team in the league. But with that said, its not always a bad thing to be "verbal". I was able to see their tournament game last year against Springfield and by the dogs being loud and obnoxious, they were able to get to Todd Kibby who is an outstanding pitcher and got i believe 8 runs off of him in one inning. As for the Lowellville situation, i know that their hoops coach is a much better person than what i hear about their baseball coach and during basketball, they've always seemed like a classy team and village.
on the lines of being "verbal", anyone who has seen East Palestine play the past few years knows that they are possibly the most verbal team in the league. But with that said, its not always a bad thing to be "verbal". I was able to see their tournament game last year against Springfield and by the dogs being loud and obnoxious, they were able to get to Todd Kibby who is an outstanding pitcher and got i believe 8 runs off of him in one inning. As for the Lowellville situation, i know that their hoops coach is a much better person than what i hear about their baseball coach and during basketball, they've always seemed like a classy team and village.
Mike Mangine is an excellent coach and a classy guy. His teams have played and acted as he does. The citzens of Lowellville are also very nice people. I have nothing but the best to say about them. I'm not sure what the baseball coach was thinking, but word travels around the league quickly.
SliceLikeAHammer
04-04-08, 07:50 PM
If I was the Sebring coach, my pitcher would have hit the first two, if not the first three Lowellville batters. Perhaps the message would have been sent...maybe throw one behind their head first?? That is one low life move. The baseball gods will not be pleased. Lowellville has no chance of winning the league with dirt ball moves like that--just watch.
If I was the Sebring coach, my pitcher would have hit the first two, if not the first three Lowellville batters. Perhaps the message would have been sent...maybe throw one behind their head first?? That is one low life move. The baseball gods will not be pleased. Lowellville has no chance of winning the league with dirt ball moves like that--just watch.
And that is why you are not a coach.
If I was the Sebring coach, my pitcher would have hit the first two, if not the first three Lowellville batters. Perhaps the message would have been sent...maybe throw one behind their head first?? That is one low life move. The baseball gods will not be pleased. Lowellville has no chance of winning the league with dirt ball moves like that--just watch.
It was the coach, not the kids. Word will travel.
smartestdumbguy01
04-04-08, 08:41 PM
As a coach you learn patience, and what comes around goes around...a man is defined by his word, if you word isnt worth jack, than neither are you. I could care less who won the Lowellville/Sebring game especially it being the first week of the year...my concern is those dozen or so teenagers in the dugout who sound as though they could use someone who is going to teach them some respect, and they sure didn't get that...maybe the people of Lowellville should take notice, maybe they aren't getting their money's worth.
TheRealVille#2
04-04-08, 10:14 PM
Toronto High school is the most verbal school I know
but you can't let it get to yah!
They are pretty Creative let me tell yah!
Scrapper56
04-04-08, 11:14 PM
Sounds petty interesting. I may have to make a few of the rocket games this year..
Lowellville's lefty did a nice job last night. He hit his locations, kept the ball away, and didn't throw too many in the middle of the plate.
Small ball
04-05-08, 12:29 AM
Agreed, He did a nice job of keeping the ball away. He wasn't the hardest thrower but you've heard the old saying, "location, location, location".
SliceLikeAHammer
04-05-08, 06:41 PM
And that is why you are not a coach.
You can't hit the coach, so you hit the players. It's called sending a message. It's how you get your point across that someone on the other team did something outside the unwritten rules...sliding high into 2nd, stealing a base when you're up double-digit runs, etc....and in this case, crying to the commissioner of the league and going back on your word to get a win. That deserves a couple shots to the ribs. Teach your kids something about standing up for themselves.
You can't hit the coach, so you hit the players. It's called sending a message. It's how you get your point across that someone on the other team did something outside the unwritten rules...sliding high into 2nd, stealing a base when you're up double-digit runs, etc....and in this case, crying to the commissioner of the league and going back on your word to get a win. That deserves a couple shots to the ribs. Teach your kids something about standing up for themselves.
again... that is why you are not a coach. there are different ways to getting a point across to kids, and playing dirty and classless is not one of them.
TheRealVille#2
04-05-08, 11:42 PM
Ok, Ok..
New Subject..
Should be a pretty nice beginning to the week for baseball!
Supposed to have showers by end of the week though.
SliceLikeAHammer
04-06-08, 11:12 AM
again... that is why you are not a coach. there are different ways to getting a point across to kids, and playing dirty and classless is not one of them.
ahhh...how little you know. It's the same reason you foul someone hard in basketball or wipe them out in football. You set the tone. Besides, I'd rather be labeled as someone who pushed the envelope than as someone who quit...what do you think?
If you think that's dirty, then every professional athlete who is anybody is "dirty".
smartestdumbguy01
04-06-08, 12:29 PM
Slice, I'm all for hard baseball but asking a teenager to throw at someones head is not hard baseball its crazy baseball. You mentioned a key word in your last post, "professional baseball"...when you make your living off this game and thats how you feed your family then those guys tend to take things a bit more serious...you can not compare a 15-17 year old kid who might not be all that good to a professional athlete.
Fouling a kid hard in basketball and throwing a ball 70-80mph at someone's head is a much different thing.
Rocket_Golfer09
04-06-08, 05:32 PM
OK OK OK listen heres what happen let one lowellville guy tell thier side of the story.... Lowellville agreed to play the next day, left sebring went home..... kid tells his dad what happend.... dad is an umpire.... says hey you guys won that game the rules state if you complete 5 innings then the game can be final.... calls pitzulo tells him... pitzulo was not aware of this rule and now that he is he called the commish to let him know about the situation... final outcome.... we played by the rules no arguements about it.... So the story i have read on here makes it look like pitzulo "convinced" the commish that these were the rules and that he was "making" them up... i understand that pitzulo agreed to it but i highly doubt if he was aware of that rule he would have agreed to it
Lowellville's coach knew the rules when the agreement was made. Anyone that's been around baseball knows the rule. It's not in question whether or not it's a rule. Everyone knows that five innings constitutes a game. It's the agreement between coaches that's coming into question. The umpires even agreed before they left, that the game would be finished. Believe me, I know it from the coaches and from someone who spoke directly to Lowellville's coach. Why call the commissioner and to get the win, just let it play out as previously agreed? Spin it any way that you like, but a man's word is a man's word.
Two things to ponder:
1) If Sebring would not have batted in the bottom of the 6th, the game would have reverted back to the last completed inning, which was the fifth. The score was tied at four. Does you honestly think that Sebring would've batted in near darkness if they figured the game would be called complete?
2) If the shoe were on the other foot, do you honestly think that Lowellville's coach, after the parent's phone call, would've called the League Commissioner?
Again, he should take a page from the book of Mike Mangine.
RidgeRams2008
04-06-08, 08:30 PM
who would everybody say is the best player in the league?
Small ball
04-06-08, 08:36 PM
Might be a little early to tell?
Might be a little early to tell?
Yes, very early. Just from what I've seen this year, Traveline and Sudon from Lowellville; and Rastetter and Tieche from Sebring.
Rocket_Golfer09
04-06-08, 09:36 PM
Yes, very early. Just from what I've seen this year, Traveline and Sudon from Lowellville; and Rastetter and Tieche from Sebring.
My vote would go to travaline as well from what ive seen which isnt much and also i was impressed by the little pitcher from Sebring that pitched at Cene on Thursday he did a nice job
RidgeRams2008
04-06-08, 10:09 PM
what about kibby from springfield
TheRealVille#2
04-06-08, 10:31 PM
Don't see any best players of the league coming from Wellsville or Southern this year. Wellsville is very young.
Seniors
Coven (Starter) INF.
Gibbs (Starter) 2nd, OF
Rudder (Starter) OF
Stacy (Starter) INF, P
Reed
Wright
Juniors
Kelly (Starter) 1st, P
Potter
Sophmores
J Dalrymple (Starter) INF, P
LaClair (Starter) C
Lombardozzi (Starter) OF
Jonhston (Starter) 3rd
Dowling
Broughton
Lucas
Bryson
Freshman
Morris
rocketsports15
04-09-08, 09:06 PM
first of all, rules are rules and you have to play by them....(Sebring Lowellville game)....and you talk about our coaches?...obvioulsy Sebrings coaches were aware of this rule because they were BEGGING....i mean BEGGING...the umpire to call the game...and no one was even out yet for sebring in the bottom of the 6th...shows how much confidence he has for his team...and it wasnt lowellvilles coach who called the commish...someones dad called....and rules are rules, what are you going to do...and you think that our kids are "verbal"...sebring had a crazy fan screaming at our starting pitcher the WHOLE ENTIRE GAME...telling sebring kids how he isnt good, how they should be destroying us...so if you think we were verbal it was just motivation because that guy was making our kids pissed...so i would thank that guy that was talking behind the plate for making our kids be "verbal"...and santa claus...we had 5 errors and we had 12 left on base...so i really don't see much of a difference...so i wouldnt say christmas on that...
I'm sure the coaches weren't begging. You may be overstating just a bit. :rolleyes:
I don't know who the "crazy" fan was. If it's who I think it may have been, he has no assocaition with the team, nor is he a parent.
The Lowellville players were "verbal" both nights.
Most of all, get the facts straight regarding the coach making a call. It's over, it's done with, don't drag it out.
ltvt2120
04-13-08, 11:10 PM
Large series coming up between Lowellville and Leetonia. I assume both aces Vocature and Greszeki (spelling) will be on the hill, and this seems to be a very important early series. Thought? Predictions?
Large series coming up between Lowellville and Leetonia. I assume both aces Vocature and Greszeki (spelling) will be on the hill, and this seems to be a very important early series. Thought? Predictions?
Greszecki is tough. I think it will be a good series.
rocketsports15
04-14-08, 09:14 PM
rockets got a victory today with a great game out of drew skelly only giving up one hit...rockets are looking good with another big game tomorrow against the bears....
seabass
04-14-08, 09:46 PM
Rockets -6
Bears-2
Heard Bears had a rough night defensively.
Roundin' The Bags
04-15-08, 10:49 AM
Seabass.. Leetonia had a very rough night last night with 5 errors. Hopefully they can turn it around tonight when they travel to Lowellville for Game 2.
Rocket_Golfer09
04-15-08, 10:16 PM
I posted it once ill post it again..... Vince Travaline = Superman.... if you want to know what im talking about just ask roundin the bags lol....
Rocket_Golfer09
04-15-08, 10:17 PM
But from what i hear Leetonia has a very impressive team and the catcher Pat Russel is a very solid baseball player... luck rolled the rockets way tonite!!!
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