Suburban League 2008

[devils18]

Anybody have any predictions?

[111411]

Anybody have any predictions?

How about telling us who returns for what team?

Where do all of the players from the Tallmadge Vipers go to school?

[kzr0]

Barberton has Jacob North and Mike Lee returning both played Vipers. Barberton graduated 4 seniors. Ben Stoll is Barberton top returning senior. He was number two pitcher last year and a all league player along with North and Lee. Barberton's big loss is Valencheck, went D-1 to Wright State. Returning starters are Cory Garren, Tyler Breiding, Mike Kaisk, Matt Smith,North, Lee and Stoll. Breiding also played on Vipers. Tallmadge will be top team in league. Absolutely loaded. Campriana, Keen, Pakan, Cochran,Mays,Mace, Kilway, Williams, Patrick,.... I believe they have about six all league selections returning. Alot of the junior class was a mix between Vipers and Thunder. Couldn't tell you who was who

[THEGREATEST48]

Does anyone have any predictions for the year?

[kzr0]

Tallmadge
Highland
Green
Wadsworth
Copley
Barberton
Revere
Cloverleaf

[BlueBevil6853]

i agree with kzr0. we only lost 4 seniors last year and are returning 6 out of 9 starters from a team that came close to winning the district. highland has some very solid returnees along with barberton and green.

[tapNeo]

Hey BlueDevil, Tallmadge beat Akron East, almost lost to Hoban, and then was almost run ruled by Walsh in the District. To say that Tallmadge "Came Close To Winning the District" is in the words of Roger Clemens "A bunch of hogwash".

[BDbball7]

1st of all, getting to the District Finals is coming close (especially when you have Hoban, Walsh, and Field in your District). 2nd of all, Hoban was a very good team. We pitched our ace against them and we still had to go 9 innings to beat them. I bet you if Tallmadge or Hoban would have had a chance to throw their ace at Walsh, it would have been a different story. Afterall, Field threw their ace at Walsh and it took walsh until the last inning to win. So i guess i can say "Walsh almost lost to Field."

[BaseballRepresent]

Field's good? at football yea, but baseball? I don't see you on this one. Who was their pitcher(s)?

[devils18]

cody umbright

[All Day]

Hey BlueDevil, Tallmadge beat Akron East, almost lost to Hoban, and then was almost run ruled by Walsh in the District. To say that Tallmadge "Came Close To Winning the District" is in the words of Roger Clemens "A bunch of hogwash".

You lose more and more credibiltiy with every post. Last time I checked, losing in the District Final is considered close to winning the district. Did your kid get cut from the team at Tallmadge? I just don't get it. You have no respect for the outstanding baseball program Tallmadge has. Every post you make has to, in some way, put down Tallmadge's sucess because they've been down the past two years and still made it to the District Finals. You in no way made a prediction or talked suburban league baseball, like the thread is intended for, but rather just bashed Tallmadge. Get over your Walsh Jesuit Warriors, it wasn't too long ago that they couldn't get past Tallmadge.



Tallmadge
Highland
Barberton
Wadsworth-Green
Revere
Copley-Cloverleaf

[devils18]

tapneo, I agree with you on the fact that Akron East is not a very good team and our JV team could probably beat them. But against Hoban we pitched our ace and they pitched theirs and we did make some mistakes but it was a hard fought game all the way to the end. In the district championship against Walsh we pitched a guy who went to Ohio Dominican and didn't last a week. If we had saved our ace for that game, it would have been a completely different story.

[THEGREATEST48]

Tallmadge
Highland
Barberton-Wadsworth
Copley
Green
Revere
Cloverleaf

[Hornet Dad]

We graduated 8 from last season among them the best in Highand Baseball history. They accounted for over 65% of last seasons offense, half the win totals and 6 starting positions.

Returning 3 sr's (all in their 4th varsity campaign) and 2 Jr letter winners the Hornets will be younger. They will go as far as their no.2 pitcher can take them in the SL.

Tallmadge
Green
Highland/Barberton/Revere
Wasdsworth
Copley
Cloverleaf

[MUC-PURPLERAIDERS]

We graduated 8 from last season among them the best in Highand Baseball history. They accounted for over 65% of last seasons offense, half the win totals and 6 starting positions.

Returning 3 sr's (all in their 4th varsity campaign) and 2 Jr letter winners the Hornets will be younger. They will go as far as their no.2 pitcher can take them in the SL.

Tallmadge
Green
Highland/Barberton/Revere
Wasdsworth
Copley
Cloverleaf

You will reload nicely and have one of the top two coaches in the SL. The growth of your district and what he is doing with the program is finally paying off.

Tallmadge is still trying to recover from their coaching woes in both baseball and basketball. Who would've ever thought that football would be their #1? :shrug: Copley and Barberton will have new coaches to adapt to so it could hurt them early. Barberton has some solid pitching and their coach is very good with a staff. He comes from Alliance and did a nice job there and will be missed.

Highland
Wadsworth
Barberton
Tallmadge
Copley
Revere
Cloverleaf

I won't put Green in there just yet, but I will probably rank them in the top three. :cool:

[devils18]

You will reload nicely and have one of the top two coaches in the SL. The growth of your district and what he is doing with the program is finally paying off.

Tallmadge is still trying to recover from their coaching woes in both baseball and basketball. Who would've ever thought that football would be their #1? :shrug: Copley and Barberton will have new coaches to adapt to so it could hurt them early. Barberton has some solid pitching and their coach is very good with a staff. He comes from Alliance and did a nice job there and will be missed.

Highland
Wadsworth
Barberton
Tallmadge
Copley
Revere
Cloverleaf

I won't put Green in there just yet, but I will probably rank them in the top three. :cool:


do you know anything about the suburban league?

[GRPride86]

No,

The guy has absolutely no idea about the league and baseball.

Hint:

A fan from Highland just told us about their returners and listed them in a race for third and the guy ranks them number 1. Well informed to say the least.

[copley #65]

has any one heard any word for a copley Coach ?

Returning seniors :

Anthony D"atamo
Ryan Arney
Ryan Fasig
Walt Harris
Shane Smith
John Hill
Phil fergerson
Eric Brown
Jeremy kirk ?
Nick Thomas?

With a cast of juniors

[MUC-PURPLERAIDERS]

do you know anything about the suburban league?

You guys are correct. I assure you guys that I am probably one of the least informed people on here about the SL. :rolleyes: Sorry for my input. I won't say anything else, barring any major injuries (since it is only January), just check back at the end of the season and see how I did. This is my last post on the baseball forum.

[devils18]

You guys are correct. I assure you guys that I am probably one of the least informed people on here about the SL. :rolleyes: Sorry for my input. I won't say anything else, barring any major injuries (since it is only January), just check back at the end of the season and see how I did. This is my last post on the baseball forum.


At least your honest.

[BaseballFan27]

This year should be evenly matched with Tallmadge being the favorites but also with Barberton, Highland, and Wadsworth all could win the league also.

[SUMUMP]

At least your honest.

Devils 18 and GRpride86, it appears you are both in the know. Instead of flaming posters, why not enlighten us all regarding the coming year for the Suburban League.

[GRPride86]

I agree with BaseballFan 27,

Tallmadge
Barberton/Wadsworth/Highland

Don't know what Copley has right now.

[devils18]

That seems about right. Barberton, Wadsworth, and Highland all have some good talent but I think we are just a level above them right now.

[Seminoles22]

Tallmadge will win the league... PERIOD (unless there are serious injuries). And highland will come in second place. MUC knows his baseball by the way, just believe me :cool:

* Oh and just a little somethin to think about... When was the last time the preseason favorite won the SL in baseball....

[Devils21]

tallmadge will not lose a game in the suburban league unless they have a big coaching error which i dont see happening...

[GRPride86]

tallmadge will not lose a game in the suburban league unless they have a big coaching error which i dont see happening...

I like the confidence, but we are talking baseball, and anything is possible.

[devils18]

I think Devils21 is right on some level. The only way Tallmadge will lose a game is if there are some severe mental errors by the players and/or coaches.

[FlashFan]

Definitely Tallmadge should be the favorite in Sububan, but defense will be a key for them. Hard to believe they will go undefeated in the league though as its pretty well balanced. Pitching solid and they will score a lot of runs. Highland works hard and good coaching. I can't ever see Wadsworth not being in the mix (they have some good kids lead by Goddard and Jones) and don't know that much about Barberton.

[4hitter]

Lets get the facts about Tallmadge

1 They can flat out hit the ball (if its a shootout I don't see any team hanging in there)
2 They have a #1 that shouldn't lose a game in the Suburban league (like I said shouldn't)
3 Have played in some pretty big games which will help them this year

Now for the bad
The Defense needs to buckle down I saw a few games last year and the Defense missed some plays that killed them or should have killed them
They will only go as far as their defense and pitching take them, We know that they will hit.

I think that Highland eventhough they lose some good players will be near the top. Their timely hitting and how well their #1 pitches in big games is their deal.

My sleeper is Wadsworth, I think that they are a very solid team, nothing too great but a very solid TEAM. They are well coached and can get it done when they need to. Keys for them are to take the extra base and lay down all the bunts and move runners (basically play baseball) and they will find themselves winning more than they lose.

Green always puts together a good team and I cant see it being any different this year. Too big a school for no talent to come through. Have not heard a lot about them.

Tallmadge
Wadsworth, Highland, Green (all around the same)
Barberton

[THEGREATEST48]

I don't see Green doing much this year considering they lost both their #1 and 2 from last year. Plus they didn't have much hitting last year.

[GRPride86]

Greatest:

Do you know how Barberton is shaping this year?

[THEGREATEST48]

Our biggest weekness will be our pitching. We will be able to hit with pretty much everyone in the league except Tallmadge. We have a new coach who knows a lot about baseball so maybe he will be able to coach us through a few close games to make up our pitching. We have a few studs with a lot of experience so that will help out a lot. But Tallmadge will have the best line up in the league and not many will be able to come close to that.

[BHSslugger07]

Go magics!! Mike Lee and Jacob North will hold it down this year...alot of talent with those two...good luck men

[kzr0]

greatest48: you are correct. Most teams will only go as far as their pitching takes them except tallmadge. Even though Mace is a stud Tallmadge will be able to outhit and outscore teams when their pitching or defense falters. Come tournament time they must play great defense to win as Mcmillen from Hoban, Umbright from Field and one or two pitchers from Walsh could shut down that potent offense. As for the Magics they also must play great defense because their opponent will put the ball in play as the pitchers will not over power anyone as Valencheck did last year. Barberton has seven starters returning in Lee, North, Garren, Stoll, Breiding, Kaisk, and Smith. Barberton's success will be contributed to the underclassmen developing over the winter to help out on the mound.

[BaseballFan27]

Barberton only has 2 returning players with any pitching experience in Stoll and Clemons.

[kzr0]

I thought Breiding was also a pitcher?

[THEGREATEST48]

Yes he is but did not pitch that much last season because of an elbow injury.

[Copley EB 2008]

Returning players with varsity experience for Copley:

?Walt Harris.........P/3B Sr.
Ryan Fasig...........P/3B Sr.
?Nick Thomas.......OF/C Sr.
Eric Brown............P/OF Sr.
Phil Ferguson........SS/2B Sr.
Mike Ferguson.......SS Soph.
Ryan Arney...........CF/RF Sr.
Matt Varley...........P/1B Soph.
Jon Hill.................1B/OF Sr.
Jon Kotter.............UT Jr.
Nate Husman..........1B/3B Jr.
Dave Redovian........P Jr.
David Herchick........2B Sr.
Chris Kurtz.............2B Sr.
Ryan Brennan..........P/SS Jr.
Shane Smith............1B Sr.
Anthony D'Attoma....C Sr.
Dom McClain............OF Jr.

[THEGREATEST48]

Returning players with varsity experience for Copley:

?Walt Harris.........P/3B Sr.
Ryan Fasig...........P/3B Sr.
?Nick Thomas.......OF/C Sr.
Eric Brown............P/OF Sr.
Phil Ferguson........SS/2B Sr.
Mike Ferguson.......SS Soph.
Ryan Arney...........CF/RF Sr.
Matt Varley...........P/1B Soph.
Jon Hill.................1B/OF Sr.
Jon Kotter.............UT Jr.
Nate Husman..........1B/3B Jr.
Dave Redovian........P Jr.
David Herchick........2B Sr.
Chris Kurtz.............2B Sr.
Ryan Brennan..........P/SS Jr.
Shane Smith............1B Sr.
Anthony D'Attoma....C Sr.
Dom McClain............OF Jr.

can you explain the question marks?

[Copley EB 2008]

can you explain the question marks?

They don't know if they're going to go out for the team yet

[earholem]

Returning players with varsity experience for Copley:

?Walt Harris.........P/3B Sr.
Ryan Fasig...........P/3B Sr.
?Nick Thomas.......OF/C Sr.
Eric Brown............P/OF Sr.
Phil Ferguson........SS/2B Sr.
Mike Ferguson.......SS Soph.
Ryan Arney...........CF/RF Sr.
Matt Varley...........P/1B Soph.
Jon Hill.................1B/OF Sr.
Jon Kotter.............UT Jr.
Nate Husman..........1B/3B Jr.
Dave Redovian........P Jr.
David Herchick........2B Sr.
Chris Kurtz.............2B Sr.
Ryan Brennan..........P/SS Jr.
Shane Smith............1B Sr.
Anthony D'Attoma....C Sr.
Dom McClain............OF Jr.

Have they appointed coach and staff yet???

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I have heard that Highland might have lost a few of their better players to the track team... This because track is better for football...

That said, Highland is still going to be tough with the battery of Johnston and Montesano coming back...

[DevilsGrad]

okay, a few things.
READ THE PAPERS
Walsh is not in the district of hoban and fields district. They moved this year
We could only face them in regions. Mcmillen will be tough. He is going to Kent State. Woudl someone else tell me who will be attending kent state next year.. maybe not playng, redshirted? Ryan Mace
Also some other players to look for this year from tallmadge.
John Campriana. Big kid, can hit extreamly well.
Paul pakan. Hit the ball both sides of the field, extreamly nice swing.
The staff will round out as Mace, Joe Cochran (pitched well last year), Mays (if he stays healthy), Keen, Williams, and a sophmore who will be recieving a lot of time pitching for varisty, Brian Kilway.
They will be talented, athletic, and can score runs. They play all their league games against D1 teams. Look for this team to beat some very good teams, and win the suburban.
They have a few big spots to fill. they need to fill a huge spot in center field.
i dont think the coach will stop the blue devils. i think he has come a long way. last year he really stuck with his seniors,and they didnt produce. This senior class (consisting of 2 seniors), will step up, and make big plays.

Good luck to the team

[kzr0]

Campriana is a pure hitter. Mace gets most of his credit on the mound but he also can swing a big bat. Keen is great lead-off hitter. Tallmadge has kids at every position that can produce offensively. My pick on the player who will bust out this year is Pakan. Kid has power to all fields and hits with high average. Cochran could also have big year. Tallmadge must fill center field and get stronger at short.

[stingray6]

I am sure I will be subject to critizism after this comment but I do not care.
Copley Jr. Dominic McClain will be the best outfielder in the SL this year.. easily the best on defense, hitting is coming around too.

[THEGREATEST48]

I am sure I will be subject to critizism after this comment but I do not care.
Copley Jr. Dominic McClain will be the best outfielder in the SL this year.. easily the best on defense, hitting is coming around too.

i can tell you right now he is not better then Capriana from Tallmadge or North from Barberton.

[devils18]

all i have to say is wow devilsgrad

[BENSPAPA8]

Camp was whacking shots over 400' at the Jake...............kid can hit and a nice swing too

[BENSPAPA8]

I have heard that Highland might have lost a few of their better players to the track team... This because track is better for football...

That said, Highland is still going to be tough with the battery of Johnston and Montesano coming back...

so fill us in

[GRPride86]

okay, a few things.
READ THE PAPERS
Walsh is not in the district of hoban and fields district. They moved this year


Is there a website or something we can go to to verify this? That way we can all be on the same page.

[Hornet Dad]

so fill us in

Jr OF Snook will be running track this spring

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Snook as well as a few guys I believe played JV last year for the Hornets.

[devilsathletics]

I have heard that Walsh is leaving and I have also heard they still remain. Does anyone have any proof that they are no longer in the district? IMO, I'd rather see them stay.

[BaseballRepresent]

campriana will most likely be the best hitter in the suburban league. Watched him a little over the summer, and every game left my mouth dropping after watching him swing. I'd be very picky with what i toss that kid, IMO.

And Ryan Mace... Can't wait to see him throw.

[devilsathletics]

I agree. These two will be the center of attention in the Suburban League.

[BaseballRepresent]

devilsathletics, and any tallmadge insider for that matter, what is the pitching depth and the hitting supposed to be like for tallmadge? They couldn't have lost too much, so i'm forseeing a fairly strong team. Just how good are they going to be this spring.

[devilsathletics]

Pitchers will be led by Mace of course. But the #2 will be either junior Joe Cochran or junior Jake Mays. Cochran came in relief for Jason Corzine last year against almighty Woodridge and held them to 4 scoreless innings. He also had a great outing against Benedictine and others that I cannot remember. Both Cochran and Mays throw mid 80s and Mace throws high 80s. Also, two sophomores will be getting quite a few innings this season along with juniors Matt Keen and AJ Williams.

[kzr0]

EB I would think Harris would be a big loss. Wasn't he your number 1 last year?

[BaseballRepresent]

Cochran came in relief for Jason Corzine last year against almighty Woodridge and held them to 4 scoreless innings.

Almighty Woodridge? I'm the most diehard woodridge supporter on here, but almighty? That's cute. However that Cochran impressed the ---- out of me I hope to see either him or mace at Kent State.

[BaseballRepresent]

Pitchers will be led by Mace of course. But the #2 will be either junior Joe Cochran or junior Jake Mays. Cochran came in relief for Jason Corzine last year against almighty Woodridge and held them to 4 scoreless innings. He also had a great outing against Benedictine and others that I cannot remember. Both Cochran and Mays throw mid 80s and Mace throws high 80s. Also, two sophomores will be getting quite a few innings this season along with juniors Matt Keen and AJ Williams.

Wow. Depth sounds solid. Yes it's early but if this depth is as strong as you're insinuating then states is a very talkable subject. Good luck this year for sure.

[devilsathletics]

BaseballRepresent,

I wasn't trying to be "cute," haha. No I really have a lot of respect for your team.. IMO the most talented team in any division in northern Ohio that I know of. I look forward to that game at Kent State. My guess is Mace will get the start. I don't know if you go to any showcases but I was told that Cochran and Mays will both be throwing at the Buckeye Scout pitchers and catchers showcase within the next couple of weeks.

[GetReal99]

Revere looks good especially with the Suburban leagues best hitter in Joe Corfman.

[BaseballRepresent]

BaseballRepresent,

I wasn't trying to be "cute," haha. No I really have a lot of respect for your team.. IMO the most talented team in any division in northern Ohio that I know of. I look forward to that game at Kent State. My guess is Mace will get the start. I don't know if you go to any showcases but I was told that Cochran and Mays will both be throwing at the Buckeye Scout pitchers and catchers showcase within the next couple of weeks.

i know DA i was kiddin haha. Do you know where the showcase is to be held? If so i wouldn't mind seeing them throw with my schedule permitting of course.

[BaseballRepresent]

Revere looks good especially with the Suburban leagues best hitter in Joe Corfman.

Hmm... better than campriana? Strong claim, but i definitely see where you're coming from. Corfman's bat has been consistent his varsity tenure and in summerball. Great player.

[devilsathletics]

BaseballRepresent,

Sorry I'm getting back to you late on this. They threw at that showcase yesterday down in Bucyrus. I'll have to get back to you on how they did. I also know that Brian Kilway, a talented sophomore from tallmadge, attended the showcase along with Cochran and Mays.

[stingray6]

i can tell you right now he is not better then Capriana from Tallmadge or North from Barberton.

i said i knew i would catch some flack. figures its from a person who spells player's names incorrectly. Campriana is his name. while you may have a point about Campriana' HITTING. I said McClain will be the best outfielder. maybe I should have noted that i meant best fielding outfielder.. and North from Barberton!? simple no.

[kzr0]

stingray thegreatest was cutting you some slack. You must prove this on the field before you can make the claim. Campriana is a great hitter and is decent in the outfield. 1st team all league last year. North is another good hitter who can flat out cover ground and also was an all league selection( honorable mention) as a freshman. Jake Patrick from Tallmadge is also pretty good. When you bring the stats these kids have then make the claim.

[THEGREATEST48]

i said i knew i would catch some flack. figures its from a person who spells player's names incorrectly. Campriana is his name. while you may have a point about Campriana' HITTING. I said McClain will be the best outfielder. maybe I should have noted that i meant best fielding outfielder.. and North from Barberton!? simple no.

sorry that i made the smallest trying error in the world.

[GetReal99]

Game of the year will be Johnston Vs Mace, should be a pitchers duel.

[Hornet Dad]

Let's hope we get to see that. Last year because of a non-league game against Walsh, we pitched our no. 2 that first game.

[4hitter]

Most big non league games will have a teams number 3 throwing for them unless they are playing a bottom of the barrell league team. I figure that the big non league games will be full of runs because of the lack of really good number 3 starters. The team who can make the least errors and out hit the other team usually wins the non league games. THis is where a good young pitcher makes his case for the future! Good luck guys!

[theface18]

it doesnt matter who wins the suburban league because of the fact that field is going to win the region and district

[kzr0]

Field has some good players in Boggs, Umright, Cory Y. and Mccutcheon but I will take Mace and Tallmadge or even Hoban in Mcmillen and Choban.

[stingray6]

krz0. did you not read the sentence when i said that i would catch some flack for the statement? the kid didnt play much in the SL until the last 2 weeks against wadsworth and revere. he had a good wadsworth series for his first varsity games going deep and taking away a sure triple from drew jones. Now i know kids must prove themselves but im just having a little fun here on this website, we will see when the season comes around.

[stingray6]

and sry greatest48 i was only joking as i think i misspelled dru jones

[BaseballRepresent]

ok devilsathletics. Thanks for the input. I appreciate you taking time to let me know how tallmadge is shaping up and how their principals are doing. I've always liked tallmadge for it's rich baseball tradition. I can't wait until kent state.

[GetReal99]

The Suburban Leauge should be exciting to watch this year with 4 kids in the top 100 for the Buckeye Scout. Joe Corfman(34) Cory Johnston (80) Jon Campriana (86) and Ryan Mace (62).

[kzr0]

The Suburban Leauge should be exciting to watch this year with 4 kids in the top 100 for the Buckeye Scout. Joe Corfman(34) Cory Johnston (80) Jon Campriana (86) and Ryan Mace (62).

Thats great for the league. GetReal who are some of the top returners?

[GetReal99]

From a hitting standpoint, Jon Campriana and Joe Corfman have the big bats as far as a pitching standpoint Cory Johnston and Ryan Mace look to be the top pitchers. So for the most part the guys on the list are the top returners.

[DR.PITCH]

Anybody know much about Cloverleaf for this season?

[sportsfan45]

Game of the year will be Johnston Vs Mace, should be a pitchers duel.


That will be an amazing dual....I dont know if you can match some of the duals last year but that pitchers matchup will be a game to watch....I think both pitchers will shut down both very good off's.....Cant wait till season starts

[SLeagueWads]

I'm hoping Wadsworth will be able to contend with teams like Tallmadge and Highland this year.

[kzr0]

Wadsworth has a good line-up in Goddard, Jones, Saylor, Solitarrio. Their question will be pitching as is most. If sophomore Cutting improved from last year this will help. They have their #1, Cutting should be their 2.

[earholem]

Wadsworth has a good line-up in Goddard, Jones, Saylor, Solitarrio. Their question will be pitching as is most. If sophomore Cutting improved from last year this will help. They have their #1, Cutting should be their 2.

What about lefty Collins? Solly will give some good innings and Jones should be healthy after not wrestling to give some hard throwing innings.
Wadsworth will play roll of spoiler this year and maybe more.

[Hornet Dad]

Don't think I've ever heard or read that Jones pitches.
He's coming off of knee surgery, so he's looking to play 3rd this season.

[tapNeo]

Wadsworth, Highland ? Tallmadge has this conference locked up this year.
It's not even close.

[baseballalumni]

Wadsworth does have talent on their ballclub, but they lack the knowledge of the game and team cohesion. This all stems from the coaching position. The coaching staff does have a lot of ideas that they write down on paper, but they fall short where it counts........ON THE FIELD. The problem with the team ultimately lies in the problem with the whole athletic department. They allow the parents to have too much say in what happens with the teams. If you need any examples, just look at the boys basketball program. John Martin was a great basketball coach who has ALWAYS won basketball games (he now is at Northwest and his girls basketball team made the playoffs). He got into a couple conflicts with some of Wadsworth's "ELITE PARENTS" and they got him to "resign/fired". He even stated in the paper after his resignation that he was ousted because a few parents had it in for him. Then look what happened with Scott Callaghan and the girls basketball situation. He was 100-15 with the girls and was told that he was not an effective coach for girls and was more suited for boys (I will give you that argument). But you can ask any of his former players from the girls team and ask them who their best coach was in their entire careers. I GUARANTEE that most of them will say that Cal was the best. Now he has to worry about having his current position being taken away from him because Wadsworth's "Elite" are upset. I guess that the problem with the baseball team really isn't too much with Brian Madigan. He still needs to become better with managing the game and refine his coaching beliefs in all phases of the game. (Sorry, but having a high school pitcher throw 70% of his pitches on the inner half of the plate isn't going to cut it. Just look at the ERA from last year's team). I can't blame him for playing the political game, he is worried that he is going to lose his job. The only thing that does not help him is the fact that after all of the political BS he goes through, his coaching aptitude will ONLY be judged by his win-loss record.

[Yourmama]

wow

[DR.PITCH]

Where else can you work for 30 cents an hour and have so many people carp about your job. Just how does one become "an elite" parent?

[tapNeo]

I too would like to find out to become an "Elite" parent. Wow, after all these years of sending my kids to school, I didn't know such a recogntion existed. I blame my parents. If they had raised me in the correct environment, and perhaps if my mom had taken those pre-natal vitamins, I too would have been an elite parent, with elite children. I guess its too late now. I"ll just have to be happy being an "Average", "Ordinary" parent. Life is not Fair !

[baseballalumni]

I was just stating the facts as they are. If you are upset at what I say, then you are probably one of those "ELITE PARENTS". Because those who agreed with me would not ask how to become an "ELITE PARENT", they would simply agree with my OPINION and move on with this discussion board (which is about the predictions on who will be competitive in the Suburban League). All I can say about this issue is the fact that the Wadsworth School District needs to take a look in the mirror and decide whether they want to continue this trend or make changes. They CANNOT ALLOW PARENTS OF PLAYERS TO BE ON THE COACHING STAFF!!! (Look at the Baseball and Basketball teams coaching staff) Case in point, Cal with Anthony Schrock's dad on the bench. If you didn't notice, Mr. Schrock didn't finish the year on the bench with Cal. He had some issues with Cal and the other assistant coaches about their coaching style and the way he coached his players(most importantly with the way Cal handled Anthony)the staff had words and he left. This cannot happen. A team's attitude and "family atmosphere" is a direct reflection of the coaching staff. If the coaching staff is arguing between one another in front of the team, this shows the kids that the staff does not respect one another. My question is then why should the kids show respect to them? Why should they respect their fellow teammates? If the coaches do it, then it is okay for me to do it. The team itself did not have much success on the floor and it goes back to my original statement about the baseball team. They are a team of individuals. It is tough for a coach to handle these types of players because in practice, the player listens to the coach because he does not want to continuously run and be yelled at for not sticking to the game plan. He does what is asked of him and the team is successful.......in practice. But, once he goes home, Mom and Dad tell him that he's the star and he needs to do what they say. So when the game rolls around, the kid doesn't stick to the game plan, he does what HIS PARENTS WANT, and the WHOLE TEAM SUFFERS. Basically, it's a situation that has spiraled out of control. Until the powers that be decide to stand up to the parents and tell them to sit down, shut up, and enjoy the game, this will continue to plague Wadsworth. It all started when the parents banded together to get Martin out of his coaching position and the athletic director and school board bowed down to the parents. This instantly gave the parents the power and the administrators no say in what happens. This leads us up to our current situation. Oh, here's another little fact for you to chew on: the parents who lead the group to get Martin out, their son did not EVEN PLAY THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR THE BASKETBALL TEAM!!! Wadsworth has a long road ahead and I hope that they take the necessary steps to correct the problem and allow the kids to return the athletic teams to their rightful prominence in the Suburban League DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY!!! Just in case you do not know. The right way in doing this is playing the best kids who have EARNED THEIR SPOT ON THE TEAM AND STARTING LINEUP.

[asm372]

You are absolutely correct baseballalumni. Back when I was in school, parents had NO SAY as far as the coaching and athletic department decisions went. That's the way it should be now except in obvious cases of abuse of a student. Parents who whine about their kids not making the team, alumni whining about losing seasons (or even winning ones at some SL schools), should be told to get a life in the real world. The OHSAA states that athletes don't play for our enjoyment, but for their own!

[slfan1]

Did the kid try out for the team, or not even go out for basketball? The one that didnt play....

[zman]

Is there a website or something we can go to to verify this? That way we can all be on the same page.

Per the OHSAA Northeast Ohio website; Walsh is listed in the Summit Lake District along with Tallmadge and Hobin

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Wadsworth, Highland ? Tallmadge has this conference locked up this year.
It's not even close.
:shrug:
You have no credibility anymore... Your just a hater.


Highland will be interesting this year. Johnston and Montesano are the best battery in the league, hands down. On the flip side a big part of the lineup has graduated... Highland will go as far as the bats take them. Potential is their for another huge season, some questions need to be anwsered though...

[GetReal99]

Johnston beat us twice last year, dont know if any pitcher in the league mixes it up as well as him.

[bullgreen06]

tallmadge will not lose a game in the suburban league unless they have a big coaching error which i dont see happening...

thats a big prediction, ill be the first to remind you of that when they lose their first game, and the first to give you a congrats if your right

[BaseballRepresent]

thats a big prediction, ill be the first to remind you of that when they lose their first game, and the first to give you a congrats if your right

As much as i like tallmadges odds for that to happen, i strongly doubt they go undefeated. Even Mace will have a bad game this year, all the best have at least one.

[itsa3]

Per the OHSAA Northeast Ohio website; Walsh is listed in the Summit Lake District along with Tallmadge and Hobin

No District anywhere is tougher than that one. Then you look up north and se the "cake walk" disricts. Hoban, Tallmadge or walsh all could win that district. Too bad they just can't have 3-4 of those teams play at States, that would be great.

[kzr0]

Someone from Copley can answer this. Did Harris go out for the team?

[copley #65]

He Has Made The Team And Will Be Playing

[DR.PITCH]

If that is the case, it just improved Copley's chances.:cool: :cool:

[itsa3]

The league is really a three team race. Tradition will not win the league the best team will. I agree with another poster that the league is secondary to the state tourney. Akron District is the toughest in the State bar none.

[tapNeo]

Boy, the Suburban League posters take things way too literally. First of all, I made the comment about "Elite" parents as a JOKE. Someone mentioned that on this thread, and I thought it was funny. I'm still not sure what an ELITE parent is, or how you become one, but I found the comment amusing. I have no idea what is going on with Wadsworth. If the information is correct about parents sitting on the bench, etc., then I sympothize with you. Parents should not be coaching after the age of 14 in any sport. I know sometimes that it may not be practical, but by 14 years of age, a kid normally doesn't want his mommy or daddy anywhere but in the stands to cheer him on. So, Wadsworth fans, I agree you have a BIG problem there.

Also, regarding my comment about Tallmadge being the clear cut favorite in the league. I'm just an outsider, and I've heard they have a loaded team this year. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought they would be considered the clear favorite to win the title. Besides, there is nothing wrong with being an UnderDog, just ask the Washington State and Davidson fans in the NCAA playoffs.

[All Day]

Boy, the Suburban League posters take things way too literally. First of all, I made the comment about "Elite" parents as a JOKE. Someone mentioned that on this thread, and I thought it was funny. I'm still not sure what an ELITE parent is, or how you become one, but I found the comment amusing. I have no idea what is going on with Wadsworth. If the information is correct about parents sitting on the bench, etc., then I sympothize with you. Parents should not be coaching after the age of 14 in any sport. I know sometimes that it may not be practical, but by 14 years of age, a kid normally doesn't want his mommy or daddy anywhere but in the stands to cheer him on. So, Wadsworth fans, I agree you have a BIG problem there.

Also, regarding my comment about Tallmadge being the clear cut favorite in the league. I'm just an outsider, and I've heard they have a loaded team this year. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought they would be considered the clear favorite to win the title. Besides, there is nothing wrong with being an UnderDog, just ask the Washington State and Davidson fans in the NCAA playoffs.

Washington State? They're a 4 seed who beat a 13 and a 5. Get yo facts straight!

[tapNeo]

Thanks for catching that. I meant to say Western Kentucky. All the games I watched over the weekend are running together. Regardless, Tallmadge is the #1 this year. Get over it. They will not only walk through the Suburban, but will win the district, breeze through regionals, but lose their first semi-final game. Mark it down now. You heard it here first.

[BaseballRepresent]

i agree with tapneo. unless medina highland upsets them, it's tallmadges league.

[BDbball7]

Thanks for catching that. I meant to say Western Kentucky. All the games I watched over the weekend are running together. Regardless, Tallmadge is the #1 this year. Get over it. They will not only walk through the Suburban, but will win the district, breeze through regionals, but lose their first semi-final game. Mark it down now. You heard it here first.

Walsh is still the team to beat in the District as much as i hate to admitt it. They've won the past 4 years so until somethin happens Tallmadge is the underdog. (But who doesn't like being the Underdog?)

[kzr0]

tapneo that is an awfully bold statement. I for one agree that Tallmadge is a top tier team. One of the strongest in area. Yes they will win SL and probably going away. However after that anyone can get beat in that one and out monster they call the play offs. Field, Hoban and Walsh will all have a say so in the district. That will be the real test. I do believe whomever wins the district will win the regionals. This is still the toughest district in the state, I believe. Do I think Tallmadge has the talent to do what you predicted...absolutely. However, Mcmillen, Choban, Umbright, Boggs and a slew of others will have an opportunity to prove you wrong and these also are very talented kids and teams.

[PACrat]

Oh, and Kelly Collins 6'6'' 200lbs LHP has been getting some looks lately. He recently picked up an offer from Texas Tech, but is staying true to his Shawnee State commitment. Hit 91 on the gun yesterday against Perry.

I can't understand why you are a moderated user.

[Grizmanfan]

why cant u thats all good info

[OhioBobcatFan06]

There is a difference between being favored and winning league, and rolling through the league. Tallmadge is a very good ball club this year, they are the favorites. They aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the league though, that is the mistake some of you are making. The talent is close enough in the SL that if some bats get hot it is anyones ballgame.

[GRPride86]

There is a difference between being favored and winning league, and rolling through the league. Tallmadge is a very good ball club this year, they are the favorites. They aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the league though, that is the mistake some of you are making. The talent is close enough in the SL that if some bats get hot it is anyones ballgame.


There's only one poster that came on here and said that "Tallmadge would go undefeated in the league". And if I'm not mistaken, other Tallmadge posters came on here and said that would be very hard to do for any team and squashed the idea. So, I don't think anyone has really come on here and said that Tallmadge is head and shoulders above everyone and that if will be a walk in the park until districts. Baseball is baseball, anybody can be beat on any given day.

[itsa3]

Joe Goddard (Wadsworth) should solidify the offense. He is 6'3'' 200lbs and he's been working out all winter for this. He also has quite an impressive offer list, not to mention he topped out at 96 on the gun last week.

Offers Include:
Akron
Cincy
Wright State
Michigan State
Oklahoma State
South Florida
Memphis

He's waiting on UCLA and USC to offer him, he wants to go west coast.



If he hit 96 on the gun,, these college offers will be a waste. He will definitely be drafted. 96 is smokin!!!!!!!! I'm curious why not offers from other schools known for pitching like Kent State, North Carolina, etc?

[BDbball7]

Because he's not really that good. Mace and Johnston are still the best pitchers in the league hands down.

[BDbball7]

And I seriously doubt that hes been working out all winter considering he couldn't play in any of the Wadsworth basketball games due to injury?

[Hornet Dad]

Joe is a great middle infielder, but in the past years of fall, summer & high school baseball I've never seen him pitch nor have we seen anyone throw 96. Andy Oliver was 90+ we played them 2 years ago, but thats been it.

[simplyagrizzly]

Dudes its a joke come on!!!!!:wallbang:

[DR.PITCH]

In the last 7-8 years, there has been only a small handful of pitchers that have thrown over 90 on a consistent basis through most if not all of a season.
HornetDad is correct about not hitting the >90 mph mark. I am not talking about one pitch at a tryout or a camp but consistently in a game.

[BDevil41]

Dudes its a joke come on!!!!!:wallbang:

Well I hope he doesn't play baseball because if his swing is anything like his jokes he'll swing and miss.

[tapNeo]

tapneo that is an awfully bold statement. I for one agree that Tallmadge is a top tier team. One of the strongest in area. Yes they will win SL and probably going away. However after that anyone can get beat in that one and out monster they call the play offs. Field, Hoban and Walsh will all have a say so in the district. That will be the real test. I do believe whomever wins the district will win the regionals. This is still the toughest district in the state, I believe. Do I think Tallmadge has the talent to do what you predicted...absolutely. However, Mcmillen, Choban, Umbright, Boggs and a slew of others will have an opportunity to prove you wrong and these also are very talented kids and teams.

Its all talk right now. Yes, I made a bold prediction, but it's just that, a prediction. All of us who follow baseball in this area know that in District 3, Walsh, Tallmadge, or Hoban each have a great shot this year. Walsh has won the past 4 years on the back of some very strong pitching performances. They have the talent to do it again this year for sure. I'm just taking a WILD guess. I just think this is going to be Tallmadge's year. Things go in cycles, and I just think their due. BUT, don't bet the bank on it.

[itsa3]

Its all talk right now. Yes, I made a bold prediction, but it's just that, a prediction. All of us who follow baseball in this area know that in District 3, Walsh, Tallmadge, or Hoban each have a great shot this year. Walsh has won the past 4 years on the back of some very strong pitching performances. They have the talent to do it again this year for sure. I'm just taking a WILD guess. I just think this is going to be Tallmadge's year. Things go in cycles, and I just think their due. BUT, don't bet the bank on it.

The team that gets the best pitching and defense will win. Walsh lost last year while up in the tournament and lost because almost everyone made an error. I think there were 7 unearned runs. The same could be said abut Hoban who lost in extra innings via an error. When you look at it that way Walsh and Hoban have the upper hand in pitching. Defensivley we'll have to see. Should eb an awesome District, regular season almost seems like a mere warm up for those 3 teams. You still have to beat the reigning champions, Walsh.

[itsa3]

In the last 7-8 years, there has been only a small handful of pitchers that have thrown over 90 on a consistent basis through most if not all of a season.
HornetDad is correct about not hitting the >90 mph mark. I am not talking about one pitch at a tryout or a camp but consistently in a game.

I did some asking around. Sorry might have to see the radar gun on this one or the chemist he was seeing that week. No one close to that program confirmed 96 plus.

[SLeagueWads]

Dru Jones is the joker man on that Wadsworth team. I highly doubt that was Joe.

[devilsathletics]

Ryan Mace hit 91 mph a few times against Stow Thursday. He was very impressive besides one inning giving up 3 runs on a few walks and two or three hits. He is consistent at 88-89 mph.

[OSUSTAR1991]

The Highland Hornets this year have a very young but talented team. It may take a couple games for them to warm up but I believe they have a good shot for contending for the league title

[itsa3]

Ryan Mace hit 91 mph a few times against Stow Thursday. He was very impressive besides one inning giving up 3 runs on a few walks and two or three hits. He is consistent at 88-89 mph.

Guys PLEASE keep jug gun fever to yourselves. No one believes them anyways. Let the scouts I know I know we have all heard it. "I was there I saw it". Let the scouts make the decision.

[All Day]

The scouts have made the decision. He's going to Kent St. Get informed before you open your mouth

[sportsfan45]

He wasn't meaning he wouldn't go anywhere cuz we all knew he would.....He's meaning he doesn't throw in the 90's and ill second that i watched a kid this weekend in college that was hitting 88 and 87 all day with scouts all over having radar guns....I've seen Mace pitch and he doesnt throw over 88....Very good pitcher and will be a stud in college good luck

[devilsathletics]

Monday: Tallmadge-13 Green-1
Tuesday: Tallmadge-6 Green-0

What are the other scores around the league?

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Highland over Wadsworth Monday despite Johnston only going two with a tight groin. Cintura I believe came in for some solid relieve. Great game, Hornets rally through 8 innings for the win...

Not sure about tonights results..

[itsa3]

The scouts have made the decision. He's going to Kent St. Get informed before you open your mouth

When people post HIT 91 that usually means that #1 They did not #2 They've never come close to 90 so I will open my mouth to facts not your propagada BS about "hitting 91". He is a good pitcher but this chronic inflation of #'s is obnoxious to knowledgeable baseball fans who know the players. I have also found that players hate it when people come onto posts and say this kind of stuff, Tell us who won the games and how they did, not the Nolan Ryan mentality.

[Copley EB 2008]

Monday: Tallmadge-13 Green-1
Tuesday: Tallmadge-6 Green-0

What are the other scores around the league?

Not sure of the scores but Copley beat Cloverleaf on both Monday and tuesday

[frecriss]

4/8 scores:

Copley 6
Cloverleaf 0

Tallmadge 6
Green 0

Wadsworth 3
Highland 1

[OSUSTAR1991]

4/8 scores:

Copley 6
Cloverleaf 0

Tallmadge 6
Green 0

Wadsworth 3
Highland 1

Highland game was close Highland could have won if errors not made terrible job in the infield Second base looked bad..... Junior Brice Sedijo did an excellent job pitching

[HHBrychard]

it "bryce sedio"

[OSUSTAR1991]

it "bryce sedio"

my bad great job :) pitching defense needs work not just second base he just made on costly mistake short and third need some work:wallbang:

[BaseballRepresent]

When people post HIT 91 that usually means that #1 They did not #2 They've never come close to 90 so I will open my mouth to facts not your propagada BS about "hitting 91". He is a good pitcher but this chronic inflation of #'s is obnoxious to knowledgeable baseball fans who know the players. I have also found that players hate it when people come onto posts and say this kind of stuff, Tell us who won the games and how they did, not the Nolan Ryan mentality.

Well...he has hit 91. I was at a combine where he threw. There was probably...15 collegiate scouts there. I've also watched him throw over the summer. Did it during tournie games...ON SCOUT RADAR GUNS!!!

[BaseballRepresent]

believe it or not, but you don't have to be from florida, 6'6" 240 to throw 90 miles an hour. Case in point? Ryan Mace, Alex Loftin, Kyle McMillen....Chad Rodgers...Derek Dietrich....must i continue?

[bsbllkid17]

Copley beat Hoban 4-3

Hoban started Choban, who was pulled after 4. Hard fought game but Copley game up with some big hits in the end to win it!

[BDbball7]

Why was he pulled after 4?

[BaseballRepresent]

That's not good. Was he hurting or was Copley hitting him pretty well?

[Hornets3]

regarding highlands errors
coach seems to be giving everyone a look early in the season

[Copleylefty416]

When Choban was pitching he had around 80 pitches in the 4th inning. Copley made him throw alot of pitches and he only went 4 innings

[earholem]

There's only one poster that came on here and said that "Tallmadge would go undefeated in the league". And if I'm not mistaken, other Tallmadge posters came on here and said that would be very hard to do for any team and squashed the idea. So, I don't think anyone has really come on here and said that Tallmadge is head and shoulders above everyone and that if will be a walk in the park until districts. Baseball is baseball, anybody can be beat on any given day.

Copley, Barberton, Wadsworth, Highland & Revere have a chance to upset
Tallmadge.That said, the remaining Suburban teams will have a tough time
beating Mace & Cochran.I don't believe anyone else comopares to their 1-2 punch.Pitching wins games and with Tallmadge's hitting, they will be tough to beat in the Suburban League.

[BaseballRepresent]

When Choban was pitching he had around 80 pitches in the 4th inning. Copley made him throw alot of pitches and he only went 4 innings

Well congrats to copley for making a premier pitcher in the area work so dang hard. Major props!

I would be money that Choban will bounce back and throw well his next outing though.

[BaseballRepresent]

Copley, Barberton, Wadsworth, Highland & Revere have a chance to upset
Tallmadge.That said, the remaining Suburban teams will have a tough time
beating Mace & Cochran.I don't believe anyone else comopares to their 1-2 punch.Pitching wins games and with Tallmadge's hitting, they will be tough to beat in the Suburban League.

earholem, i still say tallmadge takes the league. The offense is too good. Pakan's got three bombs already?!? That's insane. And campriana is stroking like we all predicted he would.

[copley #65]

does any one know the complete standings of the suburban league ?

[THEGREATEST48]

earholem, i still say tallmadge takes the league. The offense is too good. Pakan's got three bombs already?!? That's insane. And campriana is stroking like we all predicted he would.

pakan now has 4

[Hornet Dad]

Highland 1-1
Wadsworth 1-1

[devilsathletics]

Tallmadge improves to 8-0 after saturday's games.

[Yourmama]

Didnt we ask for league standings, not overall record? Tallmadge is not 8-0 in league:rolleyes:

[earholem]

does any one know the complete standings of the suburban league ?

Tallmadge & Copley - 2-0

Wadsworth,Revere,Barberton & Highland - 1-1

Green & Cloverleaf - 0-2

[OSUSTAR1991]

Tallmadge improves to 8-0 after saturday's games.

can you read because NOBODY cares about TALLADGES RECORD JUST WANT TO KNOW THE STANDINGS MEANING THE RECORD IN THE LEAGUE

[GRPride86]

can you read because NOBODY cares about TALLADGES RECORD JUST WANT TO KNOW THE STANDINGS MEANING THE RECORD IN THE LEAGUE

Calm down Francis

http://www.usafmtia.org/MiscFiles/TVDIs/Hulka3.jpg

[All Day]

can you read because NOBODY cares about TALLADGES RECORD JUST WANT TO KNOW THE STANDINGS MEANING THE RECORD IN THE LEAGUE

Sheesh. It seems as if someone is a little salty.

[itsa3]

Sheesh. It seems as if someone is a little salty.

I know that Tallmadge is all about baseball but some guys just think that "baseball is life" and can't talk about any other teams or anything else.

[copley #65]

copley 4

highland 0


a good game

[GRPride86]

Tallmadge 11

Cloverleaf 1

Tallmadge (9-0) (3-0)

[ChocolateExpress65]

dnt sleep on copley.......

[stingray6]

copley 4

highland 0


a good game

no. it was not.
highland can not hit.. at all

[GRPride86]

Pakan for Tallmadge hits another homer (5) and a triple off the center field wall.

[kzr0]

Campriana is a pure hitter. Mace gets most of his credit on the mound but he also can swing a big bat. Keen is great lead-off hitter. Tallmadge has kids at every position that can produce offensively. My pick on the player who will bust out this year is Pakan. Kid has power to all fields and hits with high average. Cochran could also have big year. Tallmadge must fill center field and get stronger at short.

Cochran now 3-0 with two bombs and Pakan with 5 bombs. Mace 2-0 threw 1 hitter last night.

[Yourmama]

Is Pakan playing anywhere for College?

[GRPride86]

This Pakan is only a junior. His brother is going to Brown and playing football. I'm sure Paul will go somewhere like that also and continue to play baseball.

[Hornets_Football09]

no. it was not.
highland can not hit.. at all

First of all the first copley highland game was 1-0 till the 7th, not a close game :eek: ? Highland played aweful defense and left alot of runners stranded

Second highland vs. copley game sedio pitched a gem. Defense still sketchy at best but looked better. Sedio went 6 innings and gave up 1 ER. Warner went 3 for 3 with 4 RBI's. Young team maturing quickly

[earholem]

Tallmadge - 4-0

Copley & Wadsworth - 3-1

Highland & Barberton - 2-2

Green & Revere - 1-3

Cloverleaf - 0-4

[OSUSTAR1991]

no. it was not.
highland can not hit.. at all


Highland Has A VERY YOUNG TEAM and they are going to start slow but if COPLEY is sopossed to be so great the why is HIGHLAND sticking in the game with them when they had a bad night at the plate. OH YEA GUESS WHO WON TONIGHT HIGHLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Party:

[kzr0]

I believe Patrick Pakan took a scholarship from Kent not Brown. As for Paul Pakan I don't believe he has signed anywhere but will play D-1 ball somewhere.

[GRPride86]

Ivy League schools don't give athletic scholarships. As of senior night for basketball, he was going to Brown. Things may have changed, I hadn't heard the Kent scholarship thing though. If that's true, that's great.

So far Paul is having a dream season, hopefully it keeps going that way.

[BaseballRepresent]

Is tallmadge's next game against woodridge?

[Copley EB 2008]

Highland Has A VERY YOUNG TEAM and they are going to start slow but if COPLEY is sopossed to be so great the why is HIGHLAND sticking in the game with them when they had a bad night at the plate. OH YEA GUESS WHO WON TONIGHT HIGHLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Party:


Dude when has anyone said Copley is great? Before the season they were constantly berated no one ever said they were going to be great but they are definitely turning some heads and proving a lot of people wrong seeing as how many people thought they would repeat last year. Get a clue man

[GRPride86]

Is tallmadge's next game against woodridge?


I'm pretty sure they don't play tonight. And Woodridge is friday at Kent State.

[SLeagueWads]

I had a chance to get out to Wadsworth's last two games against Revere, beating them 20-1 total in two games, not saying beating Revere is something big or anything, but this team has a very solid line up. I have a feeling the last league match up for them against Tallmadge is going to be an interesting one. Go Grizzlies!

[BDbball7]

Yes, Tallmadge plays Woodridge friday at KSU.

[devilsathletics]

Get your facts straight. Patrick Pakan chose offense and education in the ivy league over defense in the mac. He is not going to kent. Pakan's a brown bear now.

[Buckeyes9650]

Who ended up winning the Tallmadge Woodridge game?

[All Day]

Tallmadge beat Woodridge 4-0.

They improve to 13-0 (4-0).

Cochran improves to 4-0. Cochran has given up 2 runs in 26 innings of work this year.

[SLeagueWads]

Wadsworth improves to 7-3 on the year with two wins over Wooster.

Wadsworth 14
Wooster 6

Wadsworth 9
Wooster 6 ( 10 innings )

[Buckeyes9650]

Highland is now 4-3 with two mercy rule wins at Rittman on saturday. Highland bats might finally be coming alive.

[GRPride86]

Tallmadge takes two from Ellet on Saturday

First game close 7-2 or something like that, Second one not so close 13-2. I know my scores are not exact but you get the idea.

Tallmadge 15-0 (4-0)

[earholem]

Tallmadge takes two from Ellet on Saturday

First game close 7-2 or something like that, Second one not so close 13-2. I know my scores are not exact but you get the idea.

Tallmadge 15-0 (4-0)

5-1 and 12-2 over Ellet
13-0 overall

[GRPride86]

Boy, I wasn't even close.

I did get the 4-0 part right, didn't I?

[tapNeo]

5-1 and 12-2 over Ellet
13-0 overall

I have a question concerning Tallmadge's schedule. What is the OHSAA rule regarding the number of regular season games you can play during a season. I thought it was something like 25 games. If this is the case, I just wonder if Tallmadge has already played 15 games, and districts take place in about 1 month, won't they be burning too many games before the tournament? They have a good team that should have an excellent shot at advancing past the district this year, so they will want to keep a set number of open games for the purpose of playing some games between the districts and regionals, and then before the state tournament. Perhaps I'm off on the max number of games, and yes, just being a bit optomistic on their chances to advance to state, but I know there is a max number of regular season games you can play...just curious. Anyone have the answer?

[zman]

You are allowed 27 regular season games. Teams schedule games at the front end of their schedule with the expectation of several being postponed due to weather and thus being rescheduled later in the season. This year being the exception with the majority, if not all of the scheduled games being played to date.

[slfan1]

How have they played 15 games already and most other SL teams have played 10? If they have, they will be sitting the last couple of weeks while the other SL teams are playing, or they are going to go over.....

[kzr0]

Tallmadge has only played 13 not 15. I believe Revere has played 12 already and I think Green has played 11.

[zmen]

Revere 3

Tallmade 1

FINAL 4/21

[devilsathletics]

Thanks zmen.. way to hop all over that. Yes tallmadge lost to revere 3-1 today and Mace did pitch. Although IMO he did great. The tallmadge offense is what was embarrassing. The slower pitching had a huge effect. Tallmadge is now 13-1 overall. Go get 'em tomorrow blue devils.

[GetReal99]

Good now we dont have to hear about how great Tallmadge is, by the way I was at the Green vs Highland game. Johnston looked great 11ks in 5 innings.
Highland beats Green 4-2

[PeterGammons]

Revere 3

Tallmade 1

FINAL 4/21

Thats what can happen when you take a team to lightly.

[Raker30-8]

Thats what can happen when you take a team to lightly.

NO, thats just baseball

[OSUSTAR1991]

NO, thats just baseball
Or just taking a team lightly:confused:how did this happen?

This is GREAT FOR THE LEAGUE:banana::grouphug: :Party:

[kzr0]

Well the undefeated SL remark is now a thing of the past. Even though I still believe Tallmadge will win the SL and might only lose one more game in the league it is still nice to see someone step up to the challenge.

[SLeagueWads]

I believe Wadsworth is the only other team that has only one loss in the league. They beat Cloverleaf 9-2 today. Cutting improves to 4-0.

[copley #65]

copley also only has 1 loss in the league to highland

[Yourmama]

THANKS REVERE!:Party:

[OhioBobcatFan06]

:laugh: :laugh:
So much for going undefeated in league... :rolleyes:

As I said, the SL teams are close enough talent wise that a good or bad day from any team can swing the favorite to the losing side of things.

From what I saw of the Tallmadge@Revere game today from the Highland@Revere track meet it looked like Revere was at the very least giving Tallmadge a game yet again. I saw very little of the game so maybe I am way off base... Score??

[zmen]

Revere 7

Tallmadge 8

Final 8 innings

[Copleylefty416]

Copley beat barberton 6 to 4

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Revere 7

Tallmadge 8

Final 8 innings

So I was right about it being close...

Wadsworth-14
Leaf-1

Highland lost, not sure on the score. It wasn't close though...

[Yourmama]

Wow Revere had Tallmadge right where they wanted them! So Tallmadge is not so unbeatable now that we look at it, almost 2 losses at Revere.:stirthepot:

[Seminoles22]

Wow Revere had Tallmadge right where they wanted them! So Tallmadge is not so unbeatable now that we look at it, almost 2 losses at Revere.:stirthepot:


Tallmadge will still win the league.... As bad as everyone, including myself, doesn't want them too you have to give them the nod to still win the league.

Best pitcher in the league and best hitters in the league

[DR.PITCH]

Are you saying that the best pitcher in the league will have a league loss? not sure if other top pitchers will have one loss. Only half way through the league with the other 2 teams that are tied for first place still yet to play, might mean other losses during league play. Not sure how strong Revere is but I'm thinking that the other 2 league leaders are a notch or 2 above Revere and with better pitching. Does any or all of this sound reasonable now that Tallmadge's cruise through the Suburban has been derailed?:shrug:

[devilsathletics]

Hate on Tallmadge all you want. One bad game.. who cares. And by the way, thanks for the class Revere fans. Yes we all heard what you were saying in the stands. You're pathetic. Thank you to everyone else for being respectful so far.

[BDevil41]

Are you saying that the best pitcher in the league will have a league loss? not sure if other top pitchers will have one loss. Only half way through the league with the other 2 teams that are tied for first place still yet to play, might mean other losses during league play. Not sure how strong Revere is but I'm thinking that the other 2 league leaders are a notch or 2 above Revere and with better pitching. Does any or all of this sound reasonable now that Tallmadge's cruise through the Suburban has been derailed?:shrug:

Well if you're going to say that Mace isn't the best pitcher in the league just because he has one leauge loss, which is what I gathered from your post and I still believe he is the best in the league. Anyway, if it comes down to losses how about Cochran then, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he is 5-0. Any other pitchers in the league 5-0?

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Tallmadge will still win the league.... As bad as everyone, including myself, doesn't want them too you have to give them the nod to still win the league.

Best pitcher in the league and best hitters in the league
I think Johnston would have a complaint with that statement after the performance he put on Monday... 11 K's and only 2 BB's in 5 and 1/3 in a 4-2 Highland win.

Now I don't think Mace's league loss does much to take him out of the argument, but I do think Johnston is the better pitcher throwing near a 90mph fastball with a heck of a slider as well as a few other pitches in his arsenal.

[TheRealJayDubb]

After playing tallmadge last friday, and beating highland last year 8-6 at there place, i'd have to say that tallmadge is the better of the two teams, but highland's the other team that will contend with for the title in the suburban. Have these two teams played each other yet?

[PeterGammons]

I believe the league games this week might suggest that the Suburban League may be a bit more even keel than everyone suspects. With all due respect, it seems that Cloverleaf is the only team without a shot to win the SLT.

[BgStck45]

I believe the league games this week might suggest that the Suburban League may be a bit more even keel than everyone suspects. With all due respect, it seems that Cloverleaf is the only team without a shot to win the SLT.


Yeah, I agree... Tallmadge probably will win it and YES, they do have the best pitcher in the league. What's Revere's record now overall?

[DR.PITCH]

DR. PITCH thinks that Johnson also has a league loss on his record after the first 3 weeks of Suburban play.:shrug:

[Hornet Dad]

Highland is 3-3 in the SL, and behind Wadsworth, Copley & Tallmadge in the standings. They need to win out & have some help to compete for the top spot. Last season 3 losses equaled 2nd place, I don't see this season being that much different.

[Yourmama]

Hate on Tallmadge all you want. One bad game.. who cares. And by the way, thanks for the class Revere fans. Yes we all heard what you were saying in the stands. You're pathetic. Thank you to everyone else for being respectful so far.

I would say you had "two" bad games against Revere.

[GRPride86]

A win's a win, whether it's by one in 15 innings or 20 in 6 innings.

Hopefully they shake out the cob webs and beat Hudson tonight.

[Yourmama]

Well if you're going to say that Mace isn't the best pitcher in the league just because he has one leauge loss, which is what I gathered from your post and I still believe he is the best in the league. Anyway, if it comes down to losses how about Cochran then, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he is 5-0. Any other pitchers in the league 5-0?

Wadsworth's Cutting is 4-0, as well as Fritz who is 3-0. Close enough.

[Grizmanfan]

I think Johnston would have a complaint with that statement after the performance he put on Monday... 11 K's and only 2 BB's in 5 and 1/3 in a 4-2 Highland win.

Now I don't think Mace's league loss does much to take him out of the argument, but I do think Johnston is the better pitcher throwing near a 90mph fastball with a heck of a slider as well as a few other pitches in his arsenal.



Ok honestly 90mph fastball thats completely wrong

[kzr0]

You can argue who is the best pitcher in the league over and over. Most teams will stick by their ace no matter what. As someone who just loves the game and have seen most of these pitchers numerous times my unbiased opinion is Mace has the best stuff and can be dominant. Mace loss but not because he was shelled. I believe he only gave a 3 or 4 hits. Johnston also is very good and definately has an argument in this case as the best. There are alot of good pitchers in the league but none like the two I mentioned. Cutting, Cochran, Harris are good pitchers. Copley has a very deep pitching staff. Tallmadge has a deep staff but not as deep as original as they loss two pitchers who quit. Two talented pitchers. Baseball is a funny game and thats why you decide the outcome between the white lines and not on paper. Who would have thought last years Cy Young winner would start out 0-3 with an ERA over 13. Funny game.

[BDevil41]

Wadsworth's Cutting is 4-0, as well as Fritz who is 3-0. Close enough.

Close but no cigar...

[Copley EB 2008]

I think Johnston would have a complaint with that statement after the performance he put on Monday... 11 K's and only 2 BB's in 5 and 1/3 in a 4-2 Highland win.

Now I don't think Mace's league loss does much to take him out of the argument, but I do think Johnston is the better pitcher throwing near a 90mph fastball with a heck of a slider as well as a few other pitches in his arsenal.

Johnston is obviously one of the top 2 pitchers in the league but sorry dude he doesn't throw close to 90 mph

[PeterGammons]

Ok honestly 90mph fastball thats completely wrong

Johnston was actually clocked at 89 last summer in a tournament; which is what he said is the fastest recorded for him. I was able to make it out to the game vs. Green and wouldnt doubt he was hitting 85+...Some missed groundballs in the first inning seemed to get him fired up (which led him to striking out the side with the bases loaded).

[OSUSTAR1991]

Johnston was actually clocked at 89 last summer in a tournament; which is what he said is the fastest recorded for him. I was able to make it out to the game vs. Green and wouldnt doubt he was hitting 85+...Some missed groundballs in the first inning seemed to get him fired up (which led him to striking out the side with the bases loaded).
i agree with you no doubt johnston hit upper 80's lower 90's

[OhioBobcatFan06]

I said near 90. Which is exactly where he is at. I have seen him pitch, he has been getting up there, and will very possibly hit that 90 mark this year. Again, he HAS been clocked at 89.
As stated, he at the very least has a case for the leagues best pitcher.

[Copley EB 2008]

The radar guns don't lie but I'm going from what I saw in his game against Copley he didn't look to be throwing harder than 83-84. I saw him unleash a few but I still wouldn't think 90

[sportsfan45]

K he maybe hit 89 but you can't say he throws a 89 mph fast ball because your trying to say what he normally hits.....I say 82-85 is about right for what he hits. Also i think it will get in the 90's during his college days for sure

[OhioBobcatFan06]

K he maybe hit 89 but you can't say he throws a 89 mph fast ball because your trying to say what he normally hits.....I say 82-85 is about right for what he hits. Also i think it will get in the 90's during his college days for sure
:rolleyes:
No, to quote my original post...
"throwing near a 90mph fastball"
I think the normal 82-85 fastball with the occasional fastball venturing up trowards 87-88 classifies as "near" 90.

Again, all like I originally said... :shrug:

[countersharp]

What's going on with Cloverleaf's baseball program? Their other programs seem to be on the rise while baseball is seems to be backsliding.

[GetReal99]

Nobody hits 90 in the Suburban league, especially (lefties) ,but Johnston with his off speed stuff and control, if he were hitting 90 he'd certainly be a draft pick. I wouldn't be suprised if he has been in the 85-87 range in these last couple games.

[4hitter]

Guys who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Johnston is a good pitcher he gets outs, I don't care if he throws 60! This BS about who is a better pitcher never works. Johnston is a very good pitcher who will get tested in college. Mace is a good pitcher who will get tested in college. We are letting BS get in the way. As of right now both will throw out of the Bullpen (most likely) in their first year in college with spot starts on the side. I have watched both guys and from playing college ball they both have lots of potential, Now what will they both do with it is another question. Now can we please discuss Baseball and quit bickering over who can throw the elusive 90 because some of the tougher pitchers I have ever faces threw 82-85 movement everywhere. They are just as tough to hit as the 90 plus guys. MOVE ON! I like the arguement over the league title but c'mon can anyone in this league make a push to the state title? I hope that the league can get a few deep runs in the state to build the already tough reputation of the Suburban league!

[SLeagueWads]

Please post Suburban League scores for the day. I know Wadsworth split with Green today winning 4-0. I'm interested in the Copley/Tallmadge score if anybody has it.

[All Day]

Tallmadge 10
Copley 7

not 100%

[Buckeyes9650]

Revere 2
Highland 1

Johnston pitched a great game and highland still cant hit.

[Copleylefty416]

Tallmadge beat Copley 10 to 7. It was a very good game. there were 6 homeruns total. 2 for Copley and 4 for Tallmadge i believe. Im looking forward for tomorrow's game at Copley

[Yourmama]

This has to be at Tallmadge right?
Wadsworth had one HR with Saylor.

[DR.PITCH]

My man at the game said that Mace was hit hard and gave up all 7 copley runs. Copley kid pitched much better.:rainbow:

[12-6Hammer]

Guys who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Johnston is a good pitcher he gets outs, I don't care if he throws 60! This BS about who is a better pitcher never works. Johnston is a very good pitcher who will get tested in college. Mace is a good pitcher who will get tested in college. We are letting BS get in the way. As of right now both will throw out of the Bullpen (most likely) in their first year in college with spot starts on the side. I have watched both guys and from playing college ball they both have lots of potential, Now what will they both do with it is another question. Now can we please discuss Baseball and quit bickering over who can throw the elusive 90 because some of the tougher pitchers I have ever faces threw 82-85 movement everywhere. They are just as tough to hit as the 90 plus guys. MOVE ON! I like the arguement over the league title but c'mon can anyone in this league make a push to the state title? I hope that the league can get a few deep runs in the state to build the already tough reputation of the Suburban league!

I agree with that.........and fyi...both pitchers do not throw 90. Mace might throw harder then johnston, probably sitting around 86, and topping out at his best 89. Johnston throws about 81-86. So please don't say johnston throws near 90 ohiobobcat, because topping out at 86-87 is not near 90. If you have ever been in the box, the difference between upper 80's and 90 is a lot.

Bottom line...who cares because both are great pitchers and know how to get guys out.

[Hornet Dad]

Highland 7
Revere 3

[PeterGammons]

For some more fuel to the pitching debate fire-Lets compare what Johnston and Mace did against Copley......

[Raker30-8]

There is a huge difference between raring back for a showcase radar gun and pitching. Most MLB pitchers work in the high 80's, about all D1 pitchers work in the high 80's. They have the ability to gas a pitch, but not every pitch.

So you are saying 2 highschoolers work around 90 mph.........you are crazy.

Seen them both. One works in the high 70's and the other, low 80's at best.

[All Day]

There is a huge difference between raring back for a showcase radar gun and pitching. Most MLB pitchers work in the high 80's, about all D1 pitchers work in the high 80's. They have the ability to gas a pitch, but not every pitch.

So you are saying 2 highschoolers work around 90 mph.........you are crazy.

Seen them both. One works in the high 70's and the other, low 80's at best.


Most MLB pitchers work in the high 80s?? You must watch a lot of Jamie Moyer vs. Tom Glavine.

[Raker30-8]

YOU..............don't know baseball allday

[GetReal99]

In Johnston's 2 losses his offense only put up 1 run for him. In comparing Johnston vs Mace against Copley. I know Johnston had 8ks in 5 innings.Does anyone know how many k's Mace had against Copley?

[GRPride86]

Isn't Mace going to pitch for Kent State? If so, then there's no argument, he's going to play for a DI team. Anything after that is icing on the cake.


Tallmadge 6
Copley 5

[All Day]

YOU..............don't know baseball allday

The stats do not lie my friend. The absolute slowest fastball recorded last year was 86 MPH ( Barry Zito). There were over 300 pitches thrown over 100 MPH. The average speed was 93 MPH.

By the way, knowing the velocity of MLB pitchers doesn't exactly equate to " knowing baseball".

[bsblfan]

There is a huge difference between raring back for a showcase radar gun and pitching. Most MLB pitchers work in the high 80's, about all D1 pitchers work in the high 80's. They have the ability to gas a pitch, but not every pitch.

So you are saying 2 highschoolers work around 90 mph.........you are crazy.

Seen them both. One works in the high 70's and the other, low 80's at best.

Your comments make me wonder who is crazy. There are high school kids all over the country that probably hit low 90s on "occassion". Do you make comments like that to spur commentary and dialogue? I have also seen both kids and they both "cruise" in the mid to high 80s. Maybe I am crazy as well. If you truly do know, raring back and throwing does not always relate directly to speed and velocity. So the kids at showcases trying to throw big numbers doesn't always pay off. Adrenaline and technique pay higher dividends than just raring back and throwing!

[Copley EB 2008]

The stats do not lie my friend. The absolute slowest fastball recorded last year was 86 MPH ( Barry Zito). There were over 300 pitches thrown over 100 MPH. The average speed was 93 MPH.

By the way, knowing the velocity of MLB pitchers doesn't exactly equate to " knowing baseball".

That's just wrong dude. No way was 86 the slowest because Moyer consistantly works at about 84-86. And i have no proof but 93 sounds high I would estimate 91 maybe 92

[Yourmama]

Wadsworth 4
Barberton 2

Anyone have the Tallmadge score for Monday?

[devilsathletics]

Tallmadge 7
Highland 1

Johnston gets the loss leaving the game early.

[OSUSTAR1991]

Tallmadge 7
Highland 1

Johnston gets the loss leaving the game early.

you forgot to put in there why............. he was nailed on the arm with a line drive

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Tallmadge 7
Highland 1

Johnston gets the loss leaving the game early.
While it is true he left early after giving up a few (2? or 4?) I think it would be fair to include that he left after being struck with a line drive.

Highland needs to get the bats going though