Suburban League 2008

[BDbball7]

It was 5-0 when he left the game

[4hitter]

Highland - 0
Tallmadge - 12
5 innings

I went to watch what I thought was supposed to be the 2 best teams in the city play yesterday and I think only one showed up. Mace shut them down and Tallmadges bats lived up to the hype. I will now have to go and watch a Wadsworth game to see if they are the actuall other team vying for the league title. So what are the standings in the SL? Looks like everyone is knocking everyone else off.

[BDevil41]

That's just wrong dude. No way was 86 the slowest because Moyer consistantly works at about 84-86. And i have no proof but 93 sounds high I would estimate 91 maybe 92

I'm going to go ahead and say that those numbers put up by allday were probably accurate. It appears that he researched the topic and found valid statistics. No offense to you Copley but those numbers are probably a little more likely than your "estimate".

[tapNeo]

I have not looked at the Suburban Conf. records all year. In the beginning of the year I predicted Tallmadge would dominate this conference. Was I right, close to being correct, or completely off base? I'm just curious.

Funny Story. I was at the Walsh/Iggy game the other night. Tallmadge had a couple coaches scouting (at least I think they were coaches). They also had a kid with a Tallmadge hat and a radar gun, locked in on the pitcher. They had all their Tallmadge gear on. I just thought it was funny. They must be pretty paranoid of playing Walsh in the districts. I guess I would be also, after losing to them so many years in a row.

[All Day]

I have not looked at the Suburban Conf. records all year. In the beginning of the year I predicted Tallmadge would dominate this conference. Was I right, close to being correct, or completely off base? I'm just curious.

Funny Story. I was at the Walsh/Iggy game the other night. Tallmadge had a couple coaches scouting (at least I think they were coaches). They also had a kid with a Tallmadge hat and a radar gun, locked in on the pitcher. They had all their Tallmadge gear on. I just thought it was funny. They must be pretty paranoid of playing Walsh in the districts. I guess I would be also, after losing to them so many years in a row.

I believe the standings are... not positive though
Tallmadge 9-1
Wadsworth 8-2
Copley 6-4
Revere 5-5
Barberton 5-5
Highland 4-6
Green ???
Cloverleaf 0-10

And tapNeo your comment doesn't make sense to me. Tallmadge is paranoid because they were scouting? How dumb of them to scout a team they're going to face in district. I have seen Walsh scouts at the past four Tallmadge games. What does that make them?

[GRPride86]

The way the brackets are set up this year, Walsh and Tallmadge will/could/should meet in the District Finals.

And I agree with All Day, if you were paranoid why would you wear your Tallmadge gear at the game. Wouldn't you go "undercover" if you were paranoid?

If they meet in the Finals:

Tallmadge - 6

Walsh - 2

[GRPride86]

Here's another question for all those Walsh lovers.

Why are they not counting the Ellet tie from April 3rd in their record?

Ranked #2 in the State, what a joke. They haven't beat anybody good this year, yet.


Found the Scores in the Plain Dealer


5/6 - Walsh vs. St Eds

(St Eds 3 - 2)

5/7 - Walsh vs. Iggy

(Walsh 8 - 6)

Interesting that they (Plain Dealer) don't count the Ellet tie either.

[bsblfan]

I have not looked at the Suburban Conf. records all year. In the beginning of the year I predicted Tallmadge would dominate this conference. Was I right, close to being correct, or completely off base? I'm just curious.

Funny Story. I was at the Walsh/Iggy game the other night. Tallmadge had a couple coaches scouting (at least I think they were coaches). They also had a kid with a Tallmadge hat and a radar gun, locked in on the pitcher. They had all their Tallmadge gear on. I just thought it was funny. They must be pretty paranoid of playing Walsh in the districts. I guess I would be also, after losing to them so many years in a row.

Paranoid? Being prepared is more like it. Scouting is what good teams do. Good call All Day.

I thought there was a BTown game Tuesday. Why wouldn't you be at their game?????

[GRPride86]

I thought there was a BTown game Tuesday. Why wouldn't you be at their game?????


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It's all about Districts baby!

[devilsathletics]

Paranoid? Explain a Walsh coach with a radar gun at both Tallmadge/Copley games and a few others. Tallmadge is 20-2 with an extremely tough schedule and a dominant pitching staff made up of Mace, Cochran, and Kilway along with a talented bullpen and one of the best offenses in NEO. Walsh has something to be worred about.

[zman]

Here's another question for all those Walsh lovers.

Why are they not counting the Ellet tie from April 3rd in their record?

Ranked #2 in the State, what a joke. They haven't beat anybody good this year, yet.


Found the Scores in the Plain Dealer


5/6 - Walsh vs. St Eds

(St Eds 3 - 2)

5/7 - Walsh vs. Iggy

(Walsh 8 - 6)

Interesting that they (Plain Dealer) don't count the Ellet tie either.


Per the OHSAA there is no such thing as a tie - Games are either WON, A LOSS or Suspended. A Tie game not completed would be considered a suspended game an thus not count in the standings.

This is not Soccer or Hockey

[Copley EB 2008]

I'm going to go ahead and say that those numbers put up by allday were probably accurate. It appears that he researched the topic and found valid statistics. No offense to you Copley but those numbers are probably a little more likely than your "estimate".

Well it is a fact that Jamie Moyer works in the 84-86 range. So to say that 86 was the slowest fastball thrown last year is just wrong. I don't know how that can be argued

[tapNeo]

Ranked #2 in the State, what a joke. They haven't beat anybody good this year, yet.


Ummm, didn't Walsh just beat Ignatius. I guess Ignatius is "Nobody". Walsh was up 8-1 at one point and should have mercied Iggy. This Walsh team is just starting to "turn it up".

I just find it funny, how Tallmadge is so afraid of Walsh. We all know that 2008 will be no different than any other of the most recent years at Summit Lake. Walsh will be moving onto the regional in Galion, while Tallmadge will be left holding their jock once again. Ha Ha Ha.....oh it's so funny how Tallmadge's little league world series group has them possessed with winning this district. Face it Tallmadge, your not going to beat the Walsh machine no matter how many scouts you send to the games...

[Hornet Dad]

Face it Tallmadge, your not going to beat the Walsh machine no matter how many scouts you send to the games...

Hey Tap, Tallmadge looks formidable this season, best I've seen in the last 4 years. The Walsh all stars will have their hands full.

[All Day]

Ummm, didn't Walsh just beat Ignatius. I guess Ignatius is "Nobody". Walsh was up 8-1 at one point and should have mercied Iggy. This Walsh team is just starting to "turn it up".

I just find it funny, how Tallmadge is so afraid of Walsh. We all know that 2008 will be no different than any other of the most recent years at Summit Lake. Walsh will be moving onto the regional in Galion, while Tallmadge will be left holding their jock once again. Ha Ha Ha.....oh it's so funny how Tallmadge's little league world series group has them possessed with winning this district. Face it Tallmadge, your not going to beat the Walsh machine no matter how many scouts you send to the games...

It seems to me as tapNeo is the paranoid one. Weirdddd.

[4hitter]

Neither Walsh nor Tallmadge are afraid of eachother! This is too funny, I have played baseball at many levels and every team I've played on has scouted their opponents. Walsh is loaded but so is Tallmadge. Big difference is that Walsh has people from all over the place while Tallmadge is from one area. Lets look at it like this, Walsh (hmmm I need a new shortstop, let me make a few calls and wow there is a guy up in cleveland that can really play let me go and sign him, how about that pitcher from Canton). Tallmadge (Watching at the "hole", wowo I can't wait till these kids get older, our highschool is going to have a good team). Funny, rooting for Walsh is like rooting for the Yankees. I will sit with the local teams who have to grow local talent. As for the game I have seen both teams, Walsh is the usuall Giant and Tallmadge one of the better highschool teams I have seen play. Depends who pitches and who's bats are alive. Could be a slugfest. I am thinking Tallmadge has revenge on their minds from last year.

[GRPride86]

Ummm, didn't Walsh just beat Ignatius. I guess Ignatius is "Nobody".

vs. Iggy 1-1
vs. St Eds 0-2

Who else have they beaten?

And you keep referring to the LL team, did they beat your team back then or what? And I think that there is only 5 players from that team on this years squad, maybe 6.

It's going to come down to those two teams in Districts and I think Tallmadge pulls it out this year.

[tapNeo]

Neither Walsh nor Tallmadge are afraid of eachother! This is too funny, I have played baseball at many levels and every team I've played on has scouted their opponents. Walsh is loaded but so is Tallmadge. Big difference is that Walsh has people from all over the place while Tallmadge is from one area. Lets look at it like this, Walsh (hmmm I need a new shortstop, let me make a few calls and wow there is a guy up in cleveland that can really play let me go and sign him, how about that pitcher from Canton). Tallmadge (Watching at the "hole", wowo I can't wait till these kids get older, our highschool is going to have a good team). Funny, rooting for Walsh is like rooting for the Yankees. I will sit with the local teams who have to grow local talent. As for the game I have seen both teams, Walsh is the usuall Giant and Tallmadge one of the better highschool teams I have seen play. Depends who pitches and who's bats are alive. Could be a slugfest. I am thinking Tallmadge has revenge on their minds from last year.


Actually, I am very well aware that Tallmadge has a very good team this year. I was just trying to stir the pot, which it appears I did. Ok, down to business. Tallmadge, this just might be your year to win the district championship. I've seen several of the teams from the area, and I don't see one (including Walsh) that isn't prone to playing a bad game, and thus getting bumped out. Here is how I see it: The best matchup for Tallmadge vs. Walsh would be if Tallmadge throws a slow lefty who can spot the ball. Ed's did that, and the kid had them off balance the entire game. If Walsh throws the big sophomore then that plays into Tallmadge's hand, as they have the potential to hit him hard. Good luck to both teams. I guess we shouldn't forget about Hoban. They certainly have the talent to beat either Tallmadge or Walsh on a given day.

[Seminoles22]

I just want to see the Mace vs. Belair match-up, if that is what it comes down too for the district final.... The one thing that could hurt Tallmadge is that the district semi's are a single day before the district finals, meaning Mace cannot pitch two days in a row (start). So is Cochran good enough to win a district semifinal game? I really don't know. Either way i hope these two teams meet and it is the match-up most want to see

[GRPride86]

The Semi's for Tallmadge will be the winner of Copley/Hoban. I think Cochran just fine against either one of those teams.

[BDbball7]

Cochran is actually having a better year than Mace. So to tell you the truth, Tallmadge has confidence in both of them to pitch against Walsh or Hoban.

[Seminoles22]

Cochran is actually having a better year than Mace. So to tell you the truth, Tallmadge has confidence in both of them to pitch against Walsh or Hoban.

Yes i agree he is having a better year, if you look at the records and stats. BUT has cochran faced the same competiton Mace has? I just think that this team will go far and that pitching could cause a problem, because let's face it.... Mace is the best pitcher on that team

[BDbball7]

Cochran has beaten Grove City, Woodridge, Copley, and Twinsburg along with 2 others. Those are some pretty solid teams.

[TheRealJayDubb]

i'll vouch for the fact that cochran's good. Kept our whole team (woodridge) off-balanced the whole game.

[Seminoles22]

Cochran has beaten Grove City, Woodridge, Copley, and Twinsburg along with 2 others. Those are some pretty solid teams.

Ok, i didnt realize he pitched against woodridge. That is a very good hitting team and for him to get the win agianst them is impressive.

[4hitter]

I still am going to have to agree with Noles on this one. You want your best on the mound, whether you guys want to agree or not Mace is the best that Tallmadge has to offer. With back to back games how could a coach let there best pitcher sit on the bench with his arm ready to go (we go over this every year). So what you should be asking is, is Cochran ready to beat Walsh? This is one and done time for baseball. Gotta throw your best against Hoban or Copley then go against Walsh with your next best which for Tallmadge is pretty darn good with Cochran and Kilway) So is Cochran good enough to beat the Hoban or Copley (yes he is) but I would not let my ace of the staff not pitch and gamble on winning a game before districts. And if Tallmadge brings there bats, then Mace can rest and come in for the late innings or even start agains Walsh. Whadya think?

[BDbball7]

I don't disagree with you at all. You're right on. People were doubting what Cochran can do against Walsh and I'm saying that I have just as much confidence in him to beat them as I do with Mace. But we gotta get there first.

[devilsathletics]

I plan on seeing Mace pitch the semifinal and then Cochran or Kilway against Walsh. To be completely honest.. Kilway OR Cochran would be just fine. Walsh isn't the only team with a stand out sophomore ;) Brian Kilway may not throw 90 but he is consistent at mid 80s and hasn't lost a game. Very tough.

[All Day]

i hear that brian kilway kid has a nasty splitter;)

[TheRealJayDubb]

hey i've heard of kilway. isn't he a soph?

[tapNeo]

I still am going to have to agree with Noles on this one. You want your best on the mound, whether you guys want to agree or not Mace is the best that Tallmadge has to offer. With back to back games how could a coach let there best pitcher sit on the bench with his arm ready to go (we go over this every year). So what you should be asking is, is Cochran ready to beat Walsh? This is one and done time for baseball. Gotta throw your best against Hoban or Copley then go against Walsh with your next best which for Tallmadge is pretty darn good with Cochran and Kilway) So is Cochran good enough to beat the Hoban or Copley (yes he is) but I would not let my ace of the staff not pitch and gamble on winning a game before districts. And if Tallmadge brings there bats, then Mace can rest and come in for the late innings or even start agains Walsh. Whadya think?

I agree with you 100 percent. You absolutely pitch your best in your semi-final games. Walsh got burned by this a few years ago when tried to save Rodgers for the Regional championship, and got beat by Norton. In the one and done format of the tournament, you absolutely have to pitch your best. Besides if you don't have at least two studs pitchers (and a dependable relief pitcher), it's very unlikely your going to go very deep into the tournament anyway.

[tapNeo]

I plan on seeing Mace pitch the semifinal and then Cochran or Kilway against Walsh. To be completely honest.. Kilway OR Cochran would be just fine. Walsh isn't the only team with a stand out sophomore ;) Brian Kilway may not throw 90 but he is consistent at mid 80s and hasn't lost a game. Very tough.

Remember this also. I've seen it happen several times, especially with young pitchers. When they are thrown into a big game, with several hundred people watching and reporters lined up along the fence, it is a MUCH different atmosphere than anything they have experienced. I always here people say, well he pitched in several travel ball championships, and in this big game, etc....BUT it is completely different at the districts. In travel ball your not pitching in front of your home town, and normally there are only parents in the stands. Regular season games are also entirely different. I've seen some very good pitchers wilt under the pressure. This is not saying this kid cannot handle it, but just be aware of this dynamic. The game is not played on paper, and with stats.

[GRPride86]

Cochran pitched against Woodridge and at the time it was one of the most anticipated matchups in the area. They moved the game to Kent State and there were plenty of fans and media there. Cochran held them to a shutout. He'll do just fine no matter who he pitches against.

Should be a fun districts to watch this year.

[BDbball7]

Remember this also. I've seen it happen several times, especially with young pitchers. When they are thrown into a big game, with several hundred people watching and reporters lined up along the fence, it is a MUCH different atmosphere than anything they have experienced. I always here people say, well he pitched in several travel ball championships, and in this big game, etc....BUT it is completely different at the districts. In travel ball your not pitching in front of your home town, and normally there are only parents in the stands. Regular season games are also entirely different. I've seen some very good pitchers wilt under the pressure. This is not saying this kid cannot handle it, but just be aware of this dynamic. The game is not played on paper, and with stats.

But the pressure goes both ways so you better make sure your boys are ready as well.

[tapNeo]

But the pressure goes both ways so you better make sure your boys are ready as well.

Don't worry, Walsh is more than ready for the tournament. They easily handled D1 Canfield who was 22-2 at Kent State U. today. Final score was 6-0. Skulina was dominant. As usual Coach Kaczmar has the boys fine tuned for tournament time.

I just took a look at Tallmadge's schedule this year. Boy, they played a light schedule this season. I did see Moeller on the schedule, but I do not think that game was played. I saw no St. Ed's. No St. Ignatius, No Canfield, etc. on their schedule. Since their team appears to be strong this season, why not schedule some good competition?

[BDbball7]

Woodridge, Lasalle, Elder, Grove City, Stow, Ellet (who Walsh tied)

Light schedule ay? And we had Ignatius, Strongsville, and Moeller scheduled but they got rained out.

[Yourmama]

Wadsworth 7
Copley 2

Tallmadge next week

[devilsathletics]

Tallmadge had a very tough schedule. Moeller had no pitching and left Tallmadge hanging out to dry on a 5 hours trip to Cincinnati last weekend. So Tallmadge played Elder and La Salle who are just as good. Unless you've seen them play don't waste your time questioning that. Their double header with Iggy and Brunswick was rained out and neither team was able to reschedule. Tallmadge also played Woodridge, Hudson, Grove City, Newark, Ellet, and others. You know why I put Ellet in that list. They have also tried to schedule St. Ed's. Apparently it didn't work out with either team's schedule.

And about Kilway being thrown in a big game.. I have never seen a pitcher approach the game like him. He'll be just fine if he is called upon.

[Buckeyes9650]

I agree with you that both Tallmadge and Walsh are great teams, but from a pitching perspective, Mace is no where near as good as any of Walsh's top three. And trust me, i faced both Mace and many of Walsh's pitchers.

[All Day]

I agree with you that both Tallmadge and Walsh are great teams, but from a pitching perspective, Mace is no where near as good as any of Walsh's top three. And trust me, i faced both Mace and many of Walsh's pitchers.

That's strange because Mace and Belair are both going to Kent St.. I am not 100% sure about Starn but I heard he may be going there as well. You'd think if Belair and Starn were so much better, they would not be going to the same school. And to say Skulina is better than Mace is non sense because Skulina hasn't proved anything yet in the postseason.

[TheRealJayDubb]

That's strange because Mace and Belair are both going to Kent St.. I am not 100% sure about Starn but I heard he may be going there as well. You'd think if Belair and Starn were so much better, they would not be going to the same school. And to say Skulina is better than Mace is non sense because Skulina hasn't proved anything yet in the postseason.

What's that supposed to mean? Just because they all are going to the same D-I program, one isn't better than the other? Don't follow your logic. I've faced Belair and Starn, and I've seen Mace throw. Belair and Starn are better. Mace is still very good and deserves the D-I accolades, but to say he's as good as belair is saying Jake Westbrook is as good as Randy Johnson. Just doesn't compute.

[tapNeo]

That's strange because Mace and Belair are both going to Kent St.. I am not 100% sure about Starn but I heard he may be going there as well. You'd think if Belair and Starn were so much better, they would not be going to the same school. And to say Skulina is better than Mace is non sense because Skulina hasn't proved anything yet in the postseason.

Not to say that Mace is not a good pitcher, but what has he proved in the playoffs? You say that Skulina has not proved anything in a playoff atmosphere, which is correct, but I don't think Mace has won a District Championship game, which I think would be a good barometer of having playoff experience.

[Buckeyes9650]

I understand that being a good regular season pitcher means nothing in the post season, but having faced Starn, Skulina, and Mace, Mace is the one id most like to face if i had a choice. Ive never seen Belair throw but from what i hear he is the best of them. Its possible Mace was bothered by his supposed groin injury, but i definatly didnt think he was even close to starn's level, and Skulina being just a little better.

[SLeagueWads]

I hate to say it Tallmadge...but I see Wadsworth winning the league this year. Better not look too far ahead.

[devilsathletics]

Wadsworth has played NO ONE. And back to the Mace Bellair Skulina and Starn comparisons.. These Walsh pitchers can be as good as they want. Last I heard games are won playing defense as well as OFFENSE. So Tallmadge will take the challenge. Tallmadge's pitching is good enough to hold Walsh. Who cares if their pitching is lights out or not. It's all about the W. Tallmadge IS a better offensive team than Walsh.

[GRPride86]

I hate to say it Tallmadge...but I see Wadsworth winning the league this year. Better not look too far ahead.


First of all, the league is nothing compared to District's. Now a days it's all about State's, period. This goes for football too.

If Tallmadge wins one of two against Wadstucky, they win the league.

Hopefully Walsh and Tallmadge meet in the District final. Should be a very good game.

[4hitter]

Why even worry about Mace and Skullina in the District game unless one of the teams blows out their previous opponent, neither of them should be pitching against eachother. I think that both players are very talented and have a lot of potential. Kent can consider themselves lucky to grab to upcoming talents. I would not look too far already because we have seen both teams have lapses this year against far inferior teams. I think that it would be a better game than last years district game if they both make it. Both play very nice schedules and both are great on paper. I will be on hand if they play for sure! Whoever pitches does not matter, who can keep the other team from scoring multiple runs multiple times a game will win. They are both going to hit whoever pitches, so its up to who makes the least mistakes. I would call this game if it happens a mini state championship. Good luck to both teams!

[Seminoles22]

4hitter, i completly agree. Walsh and Tallmadge should pitch there best in the semi's. You have to get your team to the final to have a chance BUT the tallmadge coachs might want to think a little bit... How bout start kilway in the semi's vs. either copley or hoban and have cochran come in relief (if needed). THEN they would have their ace (Mace) starting on the mound for the district final vs. walsh. Would be a HUGE edge to have... unless walsh thinks of the same thing. And even if kilway even starts to get hit, then take him out immediatly and put mace in, it would be like mace started all along. It caught green off gaurd last year when they started Foster in the Semi's vs. Jackson but then pitched their #2 against Lake in the final. BUT Jackson was much better than copley or hoban. Maybe this is something tallmadge should think about... even though it could be risky i think the bats of tallmadge could make up for a few errors by either kilway or cochran

[4hitter]

what you are thinking about starting Kilway or Cochran in the semifinal but look at this. If either of the two were to give up too many runs to come back from and you as a coach had to explain why your ACE did not start the game. This is one and done season. There is no time to say that the bats are better and they will carry a pitcher. If you look at it this way do you start your number 3 the game before the state championship so you will have your ace on the mound in the final game or do you have your #1 lead your team to the finals. This is an arguement every year. I can not keep my best on the bench with the season on the line. As a team you must work together to win each game but go with what makes your team the best. Mace on the mound is Tallmadges best (not bringing down either of the other guys, because they will both have their time to be the teams ace) I couldn't look at my team in the face knowing that I did not give them the best chance of winning a game. I do not gamble in the sense of holding on to someone to win my next game gotta play one game at a time. You never know Walsh may lay a biscuit and someone else makes the final (same thing could happen to Tallmadge) Play for today and worry about tommorrow tommorrow.

[simplyagrizzly]

First of all, the league is nothing compared to District's. Now a days it's all about State's, period. This goes for football too.

If Tallmadge wins one of two against Wadstucky, they win the league.

Hopefully Walsh and Tallmadge meet in the District final. Should be a very good game.


Don't think thats a true statement about winning one of two, have they played their league games this week? You just dug yourself a hole about winning the league. Who's to say Walsh and Tallmadge will play each other in District final, you guys are way way way too ahead of yourself :shrug:

[GRPride86]

Who's to say Walsh and Tallmadge will play each other in District final, you guys are way way way too ahead of yourself :shrug:

No one has said it. If you read ealier posts we keep saying if or when they meet. So just keep your panties on Francis. And yes Tallmadge has played one of their games against Barberton this week and won. Now I'm not positive but I did see that Wadsworth has lost two games in the league, so that would mean at this point and time Tallmadge would be in first place in the league, but like I said before, no one cares about league championships anymore. The way that the OHSAA has set every sport up now, it's all about State Championships.

Tell me who won the Suburban League in baseball 4 years ago. Tell me who won the City Series Title in football in 1995. Everyone is looking at computer points for the playoffs. League Championships are an after thought now. I wish they weren't but they are.

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[Yourmama]

On that note tell me won won state 4 years ago and state in football in 1995 (no looking it up), thats what I thought.:shrug:

[SLeagueWads]

Well considering that Wadsworth's baseball team has been down the past two years I'd say winning the league is a pretty important part of this season. Wadsworth's strength of schedule isn't all that good but they did pound league contending Copley and undefeated at the time Kent Roosevelt. Last weekend they beat three seeded Brecksville who was seeded in front of them, so I'd say next week is going to be an interesting one, maybe not for you Blue Devil fans because you guys just want to go to states, but for the Grizzlies who are trying to accomplish something that hasn't been accomplished by them in a few years.

[GRPride86]

Well, I know Tallmadge won their only State Championship in 2002, Walsh won the State in 2004 and 2006 (Baseball) and I know Garfield finished 2nd in 1983, Buchtel finish 1st in 88 and 89 and 2nd in 95 and 96 (Football) because those are teams that I follow.
And that's no different than anyone else on this forum. You follow certain schools, but the emphasis is on the State Tournaments and State Championships now a days.

[thepolster]

No one has said it. If you read ealier posts we keep saying if or when they meet. So just keep your panties on Francis. And yes Tallmadge has played one of their games against Barberton this week and won. Now I'm not positive but I did see that Wadsworth has lost two games in the league, so that would mean at this point and time Tallmadge would be in first place in the league, but like I said before, no one cares about league championships anymore. The way that the OHSAA has set every sport up now, it's all about State Championships.

Tell me who won the Suburban League in baseball 4 years ago. Tell me who won the City Series Title in football in 1995. Everyone is looking at computer points for the playoffs. League Championships are an after thought now. I wish they weren't but they are.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/shetakaey/Icons/112741.gif I would help ya over here 86 but I have no knowledge about b-ball what so ever

[Seminoles22]

what you are thinking about starting Kilway or Cochran in the semifinal but look at this. If either of the two were to give up too many runs to come back from and you as a coach had to explain why your ACE did not start the game. This is one and done season. There is no time to say that the bats are better and they will carry a pitcher. If you look at it this way do you start your number 3 the game before the state championship so you will have your ace on the mound in the final game or do you have your #1 lead your team to the finals. This is an arguement every year. I can not keep my best on the bench with the season on the line. As a team you must work together to win each game but go with what makes your team the best. Mace on the mound is Tallmadges best (not bringing down either of the other guys, because they will both have their time to be the teams ace) I couldn't look at my team in the face knowing that I did not give them the best chance of winning a game. I do not gamble in the sense of holding on to someone to win my next game gotta play one game at a time. You never know Walsh may lay a biscuit and someone else makes the final (same thing could happen to Tallmadge) Play for today and worry about tommorrow tommorrow.

I agree, there is nothing else to really say. Just puttin somethin out there to think about... But i really want to see them meet and see how it all turns out

[earholem]

I hate to say it Tallmadge...but I see Wadsworth winning the league this year. Better not look too far ahead.

Bold statement. Wadsworth has had a remarkable year but to go out and beat Tallmadge twice will be a huge feet.I think Mace, Cochran, B.Kilway, G.Emling along with the rest of the guys will have something to keep you up at night through the 2009 season.

[GRPride86]

Tallmadge 6
Barberton 2

Like earholem said, Tallmadge wins one from Wadsworth, they win the title outright. Wadsworth has to take two and that's going to be real tough.

[Yourmama]

Remember Tallmadge has to watch pitching next week, if they have Wads Mon-Tues, and then Tourney Games Wed, what will they do?:shrug:
Wadsworth lost their #1 pitcher this week, that is a big part of why they lost their tourney game....

[GRPride86]

Wadsworth lost their #1 pitcher this week, that is a big part of why they lost their tourney game....

Only scoring 2 runs had nothing to do with it, did it?

[sriracha]

As far as Talmadge's pitching goes I would assume their march towards a state title will be higher priority than winning the Suburban league. I don't care who they throw against Wadsworth. They'll win Monday and rest regulars on Tuesday.

[Yourmama]

Since 4 of Hudsons were unearned.....

your right GRPRide85, pitching has nothing to do with it

[GRPride86]

Neither does defense

[gridiron]

wadsworth has both !!! Pitching and defense and yes it was a lost to lose there pitcher but the others are good too . and just a note... tallmadge only beat barberton 2-1 and grizzlies beat them 10-0 so in baseball anything can happen..

[earholem]

Remember Tallmadge has to watch pitching next week, if they have Wads Mon-Tues, and then Tourney Games Wed, what will they do?:shrug:
Wadsworth lost their #1 pitcher this week, that is a big part of why they lost their tourney game....

hey momma, get a clue.Tallmadge is 23-2. I believe 6 pitchers have wins
They have 4 starting pitchers and a toss up who is number 1.2 of them have not lost yet and the other 2 have 1 loss each.
Look at schedule, not to many patsies in the group.

4 games next week won't bother the blue.

[zman]

Isn't Mace considered one of Tallmadge top 2 pitchers?

I thought he loss to Revere 3-1?

[Seminoles22]

Isn't Mace considered one of Tallmadge top 2 pitchers?

I thought he loss to Revere 3-1?

Yes, many believe he is actually their #1 pitcher, and alot think it is a toss-up for their #2 (Cochran, Kilway). ??? And i don't believe he lost to Revere.... I think it was someone else in the league but not revere.

[SLeagueWads]

Mace did lose to Revere he was beat by Hoffner.

[kzr0]

hey gridiron before you get so high and mighty on the Magics let them know that you only beat us 4-2 both league games and was out hit 7-3 in second game. Yes you beat us 10-0 in tournament game and you hit the ball well but you don't compare one game to any opponent. I am now a Talmadge fan.

[GRPride86]

Yes, many believe he is actually their #1 pitcher, and alot think it is a toss-up for their #2 (Cochran, Kilway). ??? And i don't believe he lost to Revere.... I think it was someone else in the league but not revere.


Tallmadge only has one loss in the League and it was Mace against Revere.

[bsblfan]

I agree with you Kz. I am a converted fan as well!

How can Wadsworth do it every year? This may have been their best window in years. Having 7 talented seniors and early exit AGAIN is unnacceptable. Callaghan...Martin....Madigan? How can the likes of Copley, Tallmadge, Highland and even NORTON, always put a better team on the field? I do not understand it at all.

[grizzwald]

I agree with you Kz. I am a converted fan as well!

How can Wadsworth do it every year? This may have been their best window in years. Having 7 talented seniors and early exit AGAIN is unnacceptable. Callaghan...Martin....Madigan? How can the likes of Copley, Tallmadge, Highland and even NORTON, always put a better team on the field? I do not understand it at all.

So you want to get rid of Madigan. That is unacceptable. It's called Baseball and anything can happen (like losing their #1 pitcher). We will see if all the teams you just mentioned are still playing next week. Wanna bet?

[bsblfan]

I believe THEY are playing next week except for Norton. But NHS lost to a SL team I left off the list that is still playing NEXT WEEK. So add Revere to the list as well.

For the record I did not say get rid of Madigan. My comment was simply a Wadsworth High School Administration attitude. Saying it personally would be unnacpable. It was only a tongue in cheek reference. Just curious why the quick defense though?

[simplyagrizzly]

I believe THEY are playing next week except for Norton. But NHS lost to a SL team I left off the list that is still playing NEXT WEEK. So add Revere to the list as well.

For the record I did not say get rid of Madigan. My comment was simply a Wadsworth High School Administration attitude. Saying it personally would be unnacpable. It was only a tongue in cheek reference. Just curious why the quick defense though?

I would say the quick defense is everyone is pretty upset losing their #1 pitcher, and no one is not really certain why we lost him:confused:

[DR.PITCH]

Explain about Wadsworth losing their #1 pitcher...not sure what situation you are referring to last week.:shrug:

[Seminoles22]

Explain about Wadsworth losing their #1 pitcher...not sure what situation you are referring to last week.:shrug:

From what i understand wadsworth's #1 pither got hurt early in their playoff game last week and he was forced to leave the game early, and most are saying that is why the result of the game was a loss....

[THEGREATEST48]

no he was hurt at the begining of the season then they realized he needed surgery to fix his knee. he had the surgery before they even played a tournament game

[Yourmama]

Wadsworth 9
Tallmadge 3

One dinger, Cline for Wadsworth

[slipp]

ya you're all right...tallmadge is good..really good...hahahaha

9-3!

[BRADYQUINN]

From what i understand wadsworth's #1 pither got hurt early in their playoff game last week and he was forced to leave the game early, and most are saying that is why the result of the game was a loss....

wadsworths #1 was on the bump tonight. He's prolly the #1 in the league...6-0; with a minicsule ERA.

I hear he's gonna throw agin tomorow - using his left arm.

[BRADYQUINN]

4 games next week won't bother the blue.


Looks like "the blew" hit a snag in game one....how many of those kids you mentioned thruw tonight?

[sportsfan45]

What all teams have the SL teams played in the tournament and what's the score's....I know cloverleaf played solon which probably wasn't pretty but have no score

[bullgreen06]

they played Green and lost

[Seminoles22]

they played Green and lost

He is talking about tournament games not league games lol...

[All Day]

ya you're all right...tallmadge is good..really good...hahahaha

9-3!

Tallmadge 13 Wadsworth 8.

Tallmadge league champs back-to-back.

[devilsathletics]

Tallmadge is good. Really good. Record improves to 24-3 overall. Copley on Thursday.

[DR.PITCH]

Any details about the Tallmadge/Wadsworth game?

[allstarcoach]

Where oh where is the bradyquinn now? Best team always gets one when they need it huh?

[Yourmama]

Where oh where is the bradyquinn now? Best team always gets one when they need it huh?

I was at the last two games, from what I saw of Tallmadge, they won't last long in the playoffs. Definitely not the "best team" by any stretch of the imagination. Split with Wadsworth does not make them the "best" team.

[All Day]

I was at the last two games, from what I saw of Tallmadge, they won't last long in the playoffs. Definitely not the "best team" by any stretch of the imagination. Split with Wadsworth does not make them the "best" team.

Don't be bitter, please. They beat you in a league championship when you had everything to gain and nothing to lose. They threw their #1 for two outs, their #2, #3, #4 for two innings a piece. They beat you throwing their #5 and #6 pitcher the whole game. 24-3 isn't good though; you must know baseball.

[GRPride86]

I was at the last two games, from what I saw of Tallmadge, they won't last long in the playoffs. Definitely not the "best team" by any stretch of the imagination. Split with Wadsworth does not make them the "best" team.

For your sake you better hope that they don't last long.

And by the way, they are the "best" team in the Suburban League for 2008.

[Big Bear]

Don't be bitter, please. They beat you in a league championship when you had everything to gain and nothing to lose. They threw their #1 for two outs, their #2, #3, #4 for two innings a piece. They beat you throwing their #5 and #6 pitcher the whole game. 24-3 isn't good though; you must know baseball.

Actually Wadsworth was out of pitching, throwing their JV pitcher at you Tallmadge so be proud! Oh and the umps had nothing to do with your win either.

[sriracha]

Actually Wadsworth was out of pitching, throwing their JV pitcher at you Tallmadge so be proud! Oh and the umps had nothing to do with your win either.
How on earth did the umps affect a five run game? you got beat. deal with it.

[slfan1]

If you werent there to see it, then close your mouth.

[GRPride86]

Actually Wadsworth was out of pitching, throwing their JV pitcher at you Tallmadge so be proud! Oh and the umps had nothing to do with your win either.


Then Tallmadge either is deeper in pitching than Wadsworth or you just got out coached.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Highland making another playoff run... 10-0 win vs. Bay today to advance to the district final

[zman]

Suburban League Final - Friday 5:00 at The Pipe Yard

Revere (5-4 winner over Vermilion) v Highland

[tallmadge H2 dad]

I was at the last two games, from what I saw of Tallmadge, they won't last long in the playoffs. Definitely not the "best team" by any stretch of the imagination. Split with Wadsworth does not make them the "best" team.

TALLMADGE VS WALSH TONIGHT AT 5 FOR THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP.

COME ON DOWN TO SUMMIT LAKE AND WATCH THE "NOT BEST" TEAMS BATTLE IT OUT FOR THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP

[Yourmama]

I was at the last two games, from what I saw of Tallmadge, they won't last long in the playoffs. Definitely not the "best team" by any stretch of the imagination. Split with Wadsworth does not make them the "best" team.

Stand by it, you played Copley last night, who Wadsworth already beat. Let's see what happens tonite.:stirthepot:

[GRPride86]

Hopefully everyone on the Wadsworth team turned their uniforms in "clean" on Wednesday.

[Yourmama]

Sorry to disappoint you, still playing ball....:shrug:

[earholem]

Stand by it, you played Copley last night, who Wadsworth already beat. Let's see what happens tonite.:stirthepot:

mamma, Tallmadge is not best team in world just the Suburban league.
If you were still alive in playoffs, we would be rooting for you guys.

I can't believe you have not made up league game with Copley yet.
Suburban rules say first available date. What happened to last Friday and this Wed.

Stand up and cheer, because there is no crying in BASEBALL.

[kzr0]

Congrats to Tallmadge, Highland and Revere for all making it to the District finals!!!!!

[GRPride86]

Sorry to disappoint you, still playing ball....:shrug:

Not disappointing at all.

I just don't care about you. To bad you're not still in the State Tourney.

[Yourmama]

Not disappointing at all.

I just don't care about you. To bad you're not still in the State Tourney.

Too bad your not either...

Wadsworth 11
Copley 1

[tallmadge H2 dad]

Too bad your not either...

Wadsworth 11
Copley 1

Very classy

[kzr0]

Now that the season has ended for all but Highland, any ideas on all-sl? Unlike basketball alot more make honors in baseball. Tallmadge will head the pack with Wadsworth a close second. Anyone know how many are picked? I think it is 15 or 16 for 1st team, 2nd team and HM. Thats at least 45 players mentioned.

[BRADYQUINN]

Hopefully everyone on the Wadsworth team turned their uniforms in "clean" on Wednesday.

W/E sport is being talked about, you guys always use this line.

Quit worring so much about hi-school sports - and try to come up with a new line...that one gets weaker every year

[BRADYQUINN]

Then Tallmadge either is deeper in pitching than Wadsworth or you just got out coached.

yes and yes; next question please

[BRADYQUINN]

Where oh where is the bradyquinn now? Best team always gets one when they need it huh?



Now - about teh "best team always gets one when they need it" comment....Your right - I see Walsh got theirs when they needed it.

[OhioBobcatFan06]

Highland to the regional finals!
:Party:

[GetReal99]

Highland beats Sandusky Perkins 10-0. Johnston 13ks throws second shut out in a row in playoffs.

[Yourmama]

I think this is pretty impressive, out of Wadsworth's 8 graduating seniors, 7 are going to college to play ball, 8th is undecided at this point, 1 to D1, 4 to NAIA or DII, and 2 to DIII :hello:

[BENSPAPA8]

I think this is pretty impressive, out of Wadsworth's 8 graduating seniors, 7 are going to college to play ball, 8th is undecided at this point, 1 to D1, 4 to NAIA or DII, and 2 to DIII :hello:

I agree..............have fun boys, and go to class too

[OSUSTAR1991]

Congrads to those talented players :clap: this proves how strong of a League the Suburban is