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Aviator10
12-12-07, 01:45 PM
Who will win the NBC this year?

downtowntinabrown
12-12-07, 05:55 PM
The NBC is going to be very good from top to bottom.......Louisville is going to be a very good team especially with their pitching staff, West Branch should be good, Alliance is going to suprise people but they have a nice pitching staff, Marlington has their top 3 pitchers back, Canton South will be decent, Carrolton has Josh Graham back, Minerva and Northwest i'm not sure about.

111411
12-12-07, 06:58 PM
Alliance, West Branch, and Louisville will all be in contention.

BgStck45
12-14-07, 12:26 PM
when do these schools normally start working out for the season like lifting and throwing?

warriors378
12-15-07, 12:19 PM
West Branch has already started conditioning.

bushman20
12-16-07, 06:30 PM
my top three...


1) Louisville: Very good pitching coming back from last years team. This team should be carried by their veteran experience. I would say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise. Seaman could very well be the 2008 POY.

2) Alliance: I see the aviators suprising a lot of people this season. Alot of new names on the field but a lot of chemistry and experience will take them a long, long way. I don't see them fielding the best team in the conference every night, but I would never look past a team like Alliance and Jeff Graffice who thrive on being the underdog. I think that with Nordquist, Williams, and Brick on the hill...Alliance can beat any team in the conference. One thing I've seen from them so far, is a lack of leadership...someone needs to step up and take control of the team on and off the field.

3) West Branch: In my opinion the toughest lineup in the conference. Pitchers will have a tough time with Cambell, Harris, and Woods. I also think that Brent Stoffer should see some of the field, he's got a good bat could make an impact in there somewhere. I pick them at 3 because like the past 2 seasons I'm still not impressed with their pitching staff...You can't be consistently successful in this conference with just 1 good ace. Someone needs to step up behind Newhart.



sleeper: Marlington.

111411
12-16-07, 06:32 PM
The only thing holding up the Warriors would be the top man.

downtowntinabrown
12-18-07, 06:00 PM
West Branch doesn't impress me in the field.....i've seen them make a lot of errors the past two seasons

bushman20
12-18-07, 10:20 PM
I agree. But let's not talk about errors, that cost us the WB game last year. lol


I just think that West Branch's only problem is that they can't be consistently competitive with the top half of the league all year, with just 1 pitcher.

Look at the past 2 years:
2006 - Alliance was led by Hendershot and Bates
2007 - Canton South was led by Justin Gill and a combination of relievers behind Nathan Clark


This is where West Branch has, and will struggle until they find someone to step up.

BgStck45
12-21-07, 11:28 AM
If Marlington had a decent catcher I could easily see them making a run at the title with the pitching they have coming back. The dukes have the 1-2 punch but a teams not very good with a bad catcher...

I think the stat to look at is that the past 2 seasons the team that had a all-league catcher has won the league.

06'-Nordquist(Alliance)
07'-Dubina(South)

dmac25
12-22-07, 09:41 PM
Northwest will be a threat this year they have 7 returning starters

111411
12-22-07, 10:33 PM
Northwest will be a threat this year they have 7 returning starters

What pitching do they return?
What were they in the NBC last year?

dmac25
12-23-07, 09:47 PM
There ace andrew mcavinew is returning as a senior they also have a sophmore a junior who started who were the 3 and 4 last year

bushman20
12-29-07, 03:38 PM
I don't see Northwest making much noise this season. The top half of the conference will just be too tough.


What's good ol' Canton South lookin like this year? Since the 2007 graduation, the South baseball fans have been pretty quiet...? haha

theoldballcoach
01-04-08, 02:30 PM
I like louisville and westbranch to compete and be the two battling at the end of the year for the league. it should be a good year for the NBC all teams will be competitive. good luck to all!!!

santa
01-08-08, 01:25 AM
Has anyone started winter workouts yet? I know it's not time for mandatory practices but usually every team has a group of players who step up and get the non-winter athletes in the gym, weight room, cages, etc. and get themselves a step ahead of everyone else.


1) Louisville
2) West Branch
3) Marlington
4) Alliance

warriors378
01-08-08, 07:26 AM
West Branch has already started conditioning. they have.

BgStck45
01-08-08, 08:16 PM
who's taking over as pitching coach at Alliance with Hartzell to Barberton?

EE25
01-08-08, 08:46 PM
Does not really matter. They lost their entire team. No one left that really cares about being good.

bballwarrior07
01-08-08, 11:23 PM
No love for Carrollton...? They made it to the District Final last year against a very good Zanesville team. All i have to say is in the NBC anything can happen on any given day, just like minerva made a post season run last year. I see like everybody is sayin that Alliance and West Branch are my top 2, although Louisville and South have the potential, i guess all i can say is we will see come tourney time, which team stepped up and took control.

bushman20
01-08-08, 11:37 PM
Carrollton has always been hyped up to make noise in the conference. They are in the same boat as West Branch in my opinion, they have ONE great pitcher. The only difference is that West Branch will have one of the toughest lineups in the league this season.


I've been to every Alliance practice...lacking the dedication and desire from years past. I go down to Professional Baseball Academy and see the same 6 or 7 guys there trying to get better and no one else. :wallbang:

BgStck45
01-09-08, 05:00 PM
No love for carrollton? why give them love. This is an NBC thread that talks about opinions on who's going to win the league. Carrollton might make some noise down in their district but not in the NBC.

Legend39
01-09-08, 06:45 PM
nw is looking for a new coach...

bushman20
01-09-08, 10:47 PM
No love for carrollton? why give them love. This is an NBC thread that talks about opinions on who's going to win the league. Carrollton might make some noise down in their district but not in the NBC.

I agree. Carrollton will make noise and beat up on their district, but I think it's safe to say that if they came up to the Canton District it would be a different story. Winning the Canton District is basically like winning the "NBC Tournament"

swingin4thefence
01-11-08, 07:11 PM
I believe the NBC is going to be very interesting this year, and I am looking forward to watching some good baseball....:cool:

Can't wait to see my 'beloved' aviators make a run for it this year. They are definately not the same team as what we have seen in the past, but the excitement is still there as they will bring some very experienced players in baseball to the plate......Looking forward to another GREAT year of baseball from the "RED & BLUE".........

downtowntinabrown
01-12-08, 05:20 PM
I'm not real sure why everyone is trying to hype up northwest and carrollton? but I know that everyone that thinks alliance is going to be nothing needs to wake up because they have depth and one of the best pitching staffs in the league...........Marke my words...Logan Nordquist and JJ Williams is going to be a solid 1 2 punch

bushman20
01-12-08, 07:01 PM
Logan Nordquist and JJ Williams is going to be a solid 1 2 punch


Solid, maybe...only the season will show.


Consistency in the league, second to none.

111411
01-12-08, 07:23 PM
Nordquist, Wiiliams, and Brick will make a heck of a trio.

Tribe Time
01-13-08, 02:19 AM
That "trio" is no better than 3rd or 4th best in the league. With Louisville, West Branch and possibly Marlington ahead of them. Solid group, yes. Enough to put Alliance at the top of the league, No.

111411
01-13-08, 02:23 AM
Who will be WB's #2, though? Will the head coach stay out of the way?

Who are Marlington's top pitchers?

bushman20
01-13-08, 03:22 AM
I would put Alliance at 2nd in the league as far as pitching goes. No doubt in my mind Williams, Nordquist, and Brick all have what it takes to knock off Newhart & whoever draws the straw for #2 this year, as well as Morrison and Hatfield(?)


I think that Brick would have a perfect role in the rotation as the late inning guy who can come in and close the door. He's got good "stuff" and with that "loopy" arm delivery he has, he's just what Alliance will need after Nordquist and Williams.

EE25
01-13-08, 12:48 PM
Weak lineup, no catching and playing JV Baseball in the summer get Alliance no higher than 4th.

111411
01-13-08, 12:58 PM
Weak lineup, no catching and playing JV Baseball in the summer get Alliance no higher than 4th.

I look for Evan Ritchie to be the catcher. Most of those kids traveled all over the state playing baseball and went to Florida, playing the likes of Peurto Rico, and the Dominican Republic. Nordquist, Williams, Brick, Ritchie, and Mclendon played excellent competition.

user1
01-13-08, 01:24 PM
Who will be WB's #2, though? Will the head coach stay out of the way?

Who are Marlington's top pitchers?

11411- Why are you always degrading WB's Head Coach- when we play against him he always seems to treat all the players fair and gets fired up wanting to beat us. I have respect for him and WB is Alliances rivals:shrug: Did he not play your son. almost anytime you bring up WB you rip the coach- Everone know's you don't care for him that on hear so don't bring him so DROP IT. Be positive or let everone know what's your gripe

111411
01-13-08, 01:30 PM
My son doesn't play for WB, he doesn't even go there. I won't drop it. Some need to face the music. He's had talent handed to him and hasn't harnessed it yet. They have some great kids at WB, Campbell, Tafe, Stull, Stoffer, Newhart, Mcneely, Uyselt, and Woods, to name a few. WB should be very competitive this year, if not, ..........................

BgStck45
01-13-08, 01:45 PM
Marlington's top pitchers will be Morrison and Hatifield again. Morrison is good pitcher and can throw hard and has some good off-speed stuff but Hatfield isnt to much to talk about... had one good game last year against Alliance.

Louisville should have the best pitching staff if mathie stays healthy. Didnt he have some arm trouble late in the season last year? if thats the case, I think Alliance has the top rotation with the depth that I hear about. Didn't Williams beat a good McKinley team last year?

111411
01-13-08, 01:53 PM
One thing is for sure, this will be a heck of a race.

swingin4thefence
01-13-08, 07:44 PM
Weak lineup, no catching and playing JV Baseball in the summer get Alliance no higher than 4th.


JV baseball in the summer? Wow, better get ur facts straight:stirthepot:

bushman20
01-13-08, 09:04 PM
Weak lineup, no catching and playing JV Baseball in the summer get Alliance no higher than 4th.


How many of these summer games did you see? How many teams from out of the country did you beat?
The nucleus group of Varsity guys played travel ball together, while all the JV players played Legion Baseball. Neither of which are JV schedules. Sorry Jack.

EE25
01-13-08, 11:01 PM
I travel the states well in the summer coming across several of the 18u tournaments and never came across an Alliance team other than the black swamp and I did not see these names???????????

bushman20
01-14-08, 01:50 AM
Did you only follow 18U?

Most of the players you will see this Spring for Alliance have all played together for TRAPS, a sort of local travel team with players from Alliance, Sebring, and West Branch. Last season they all played their age level (16U) just as they have since they were 13's.

WBWFanatic
01-14-08, 01:21 PM
Newhart and "West Branch's #2" can take anybody in the league as long as they have a solid pitching staff, they already have a great lineup top to bottom...Could surprise Louisville & others to get 1st or 2nd in the League.

BgStck45
01-14-08, 05:45 PM
West Branchs #2 should be Mike Smith or Kolin Stanley

santa
01-14-08, 07:09 PM
Newhart and "West Branch's #2" can take anybody in the league as long as they have a solid pitching staff, they already have a great lineup top to bottom...Could surprise Louisville & others to get 1st or 2nd in the League.

As long as anybody has a solid pitching staff, they could win the conference.

WBWFanatic
01-14-08, 07:33 PM
But a great lineup gives them a little bit of an edge because they can hit the better pitchers in the league...

111411
01-14-08, 07:35 PM
West Branchs #2 should be Mike Smith or Kolin Stanley

Neither throws very hard, but Smith has some nice off-speed stuff. It's quite a step up from playing JV ball and being thrown into the teeth of the NBC.

downtowntinabrown
01-14-08, 10:40 PM
I will continue to remind everyone that WB has no DEFENSE, they make way too many errors in the field. Still unsure about that catcher's arm behind the plate and his ability to throw runners out.............Louisville has the best staff

santa
01-14-08, 11:37 PM
I've watched Harris play for the past few years and I am not impressed with the way he plays at all. Is he getting offers from anywhere?

111411
01-14-08, 11:44 PM
Stoffer has a heck of an arm from behind the plate. Perhaps at look at him and a move of Harris to another position.

santa
01-14-08, 11:57 PM
Stoffer has a heck of an arm from behind the plate. Perhaps at look at him and a move of Harris to another position.

mommy and daddy would have the coach beheaded.

111411
01-15-08, 12:22 AM
mommy and daddy would have the coach beheaded.


:laugh: :laugh:

EE25
01-15-08, 06:46 PM
As I stated above 16u is JV baseball I don't care if you are playing in Sudan. Not Varsity competition. :wallbang:

BgStck45
01-15-08, 07:34 PM
I thought you only travled across the states? Sudan isn't in ohio so you wouldn't know... what states did you travel

bushman20
01-16-08, 10:58 PM
EE25:

How many JV teams do you see come out of Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic? :shrug:

The graduating 2007 class of Baseball players at Alliance did the same exact thing, and played against the same competition. Since they were 13U they traveled every year for TRAPS, playing their age group up until they were 17U when they played Legion baseball for a year. Then at 18U they traveled again for Professional Baseball Academy. My point is...playing your age level, against the competition they saw wasn't so bad or anything near what I would call JV competition. And they didn't turn out so bad did they? Several players from around the NBC played for that same TRAPS team when they were younger, several also played in the same leagues and tournaments as them. Many of the names that you've been reading about for the past 4 years.

OhioFreedomLB57
01-16-08, 11:35 PM
alliance will be alright this year but i dont think they will compete for a league title they always blow the big game or somebody off the field gets in trouble.

BgStck45
01-17-08, 08:30 AM
freedom, you do have a point. Like in the 06' football season against Northwest and in basketball last season against Louisville.

bushman20
01-17-08, 11:42 AM
alliance will be alright this year but i dont think they will compete for a league title they always blow the big game or somebody off the field gets in trouble.


Hey gameplayer...how many Alliance High School baseball games have you seen since you graduated with a 4-20 record?

Maybe in football and basketball you have a point...but Jeff Graffice keeps his baseball players in line, and has never had an on or off the field problem.

EE25
01-18-08, 05:14 PM
Ohiofreedom,
Would have to disagree with you. Alliance beat Kyle Smith and Justin Gill 4 out of 6 times and a very good Canfield team. These are very great players to beat. So I would not say they choke they actually beat some very good teams. I know this is in the past, but they are facts.

warriors378
01-19-08, 11:40 AM
Who will be WB's #2, though? Will the head coach stay out of the way?

Who are Marlington's top pitchers?

The starting pitching is the only problem with the pitching staff. They will have Antill and Snyder in the back end of the bullpen. Tafe can pitch a little bit, I've faced Campbell before when he was pitching. However, I don't know if "he" will change the positions around game to game. Ones, i agree with you. The assistant coaches have been saying we are good enough to go to state: however, can't even get past the first round. Talent's there, but is it used to the best of it's capability?

111411
01-19-08, 12:43 PM
Campbell and Tafe did a lot of pitching when they were younger. Both are very disciplined hitters and fundmentally sound. I had forgotten about Antil, he may be a big help.

bushman20
01-19-08, 02:11 PM
. The assistant coaches have been saying we are good enough to go to state

If West Branch can't win the NBC...they'll never make it out of the District

user1
01-19-08, 04:23 PM
The starting pitching is the only problem with the pitching staff. They will have Antill and Snyder in the back end of the bullpen. Tafe can pitch a little bit, I've faced Campbell before when he was pitching. However, I don't know if "he" will change the positions around game to game. Ones, i agree with you. The assistant coaches have been saying we are good enough to go to state: however, can't even get past the first round. Talent's there, but is it used to the best of it's capability?

If West Branch's pitching is that bare to have to pitch Tafe or Campbell West Branch is in a world of hurt. I agree with Bushman 20 if West Branch can't win the NBC they won't make it to State. Campbell's only contribution to West Branch is his bat, he's a BIG liability in the field. Also, who's Snyder? Was he JV or Varsity last year? Poor Newhart is going to have to pitch every game to WB to be in contention this year.:wallbang:

Just Win Baby
01-19-08, 05:42 PM
The starting pitching is the only problem with the pitching staff. They will have Antill and Snyder in the back end of the bullpen. Tafe can pitch a little bit, I've faced Campbell before when he was pitching. However, I don't know if "he" will change the positions around game to game. Ones, i agree with you. The assistant coaches have been saying we are good enough to go to state: however, can't even get past the first round. Talent's there, but is it used to the best of it's capability?



Thats why they are assistant coaches and not a HEAD coach anywhere. :eek:

MUC-PURPLERAIDERS
01-19-08, 07:56 PM
Look for Alliance to take the NBC this season. They have 2 very good pitchers and a solid third to get them through the season. Watch out for the Aviators.

EE25
01-20-08, 05:15 PM
No Way Alliance is 4th at best.

111411
01-20-08, 05:18 PM
Thats why they are assistant coaches and not a HEAD coach anywhere. :eek:

I think they are assistant coaches because they teach in the system and want to keep doing so.

bushman20
01-21-08, 04:17 AM
Does anyone know if West Branch's senior "captain" Jarrod Harris is receiving any offers from any colleges? :shrug:

KEEPITBROOTL
01-21-08, 06:59 PM
does anyone know if alliance's tim saunders is receiving any offer yet? He IS going to be the player of the year according to the very knowledgable pannel of NBC high school baseball faithfuls. Yet the college buzz around him seems to be quite quiet.........kinda like alliance after a district title game against South:eek:

theoldballcoach
01-21-08, 08:42 PM
i am excited for another solid year of baseball in the nbc. should be a fun year to watch. good luck boys!!!

BgStck45
01-22-08, 11:08 AM
who's going to be the #2 for Louisville? didn't Mathie have arm trouble last year...

nwfan8
01-23-08, 12:45 AM
NW should be fairly solid this year I bet they will surprise some people. The only place I'm concerned with them is their pitching I'm not sure how deep they will be able to be this year. I'm pretty sure Klatt is not playing because of football offers to college but they are still returning 6 starters. They will be experienced everywhere else though.

user1
01-23-08, 08:52 AM
does anyone know if alliance's tim saunders is receiving any offer yet? He IS going to be the player of the year according to the very knowledgable pannel of NBC high school baseball faithfuls. Yet the college buzz around him seems to be quite quiet.........kinda like alliance after a district title game against South:eek:

Ouch! Being a little harsh aren't we. Let's see if you're still running your mouth when alliance sweeps south this year-
Do I need to say ALL DAY LONG?:shrug:

BgStck45
01-23-08, 05:25 PM
they swept them last year to but that didn't get them anywhere?

TYTY NBC
01-24-08, 04:35 AM
Hunter Potts will most likely be the #2 for louisville, he is nasty on the mound, with four solid pitches, with great movement, he will be shutting down a lot of teams if they dont watch out.

bushman20
01-24-08, 11:59 AM
does anyone know if alliance's tim saunders is receiving any offer yet? He IS going to be the player of the year according to the very knowledgable pannel of NBC high school baseball faithfuls. Yet the college buzz around him seems to be quite quiet.........kinda like alliance after a district title game against South:eek:

You find me any other schools that beat Canton South 4-6 (Gill being 2 of the 4) times and let me know how easy it was. It was a district semi-final as well, way to show your knowledge. Alliance wasn't the one who blew the canfield game. But it's a new season...and people like you aren't welcome for ingorant posts at an attempt to "stir the pot". We all on here know that Alliance will sweep South this season...the rivalry there died off last summer. LOL

TYTY NBC
01-24-08, 04:14 PM
o with out a doubt.Alliance will sweep a couple more teams in the NBC if they don't watch. The Alliance team has a lot of good players that are potential league MVP's. But what they need to do is find a veteran on the team who can step up, and show the team how to win baseball games, and carry the team on his back. Every team needs a leader or captain, an they havent found theres yet.

Looks like a good season for the Aviators when they turn there heads around an look whats in front of them.

BgStck45
01-24-08, 06:21 PM
is saunders the only returning senior?

KEEPITBROOTL
01-24-08, 11:09 PM
How is pitching looking this year...........Who will be Minerva, Carrollton and West Branch's #2? South and Northwest have no one i know of that will be a pitching threat either.

TYTY NBC
01-25-08, 03:48 PM
sauders is the main returning senior on the team, with a few other average players. The Aviators are like they were in the 2005 and 2006 seasons. the lower classmen with the exception of Saunders, have the talent. there abilty to win an show they know the game of baseball is exactly like the 2005, 2006 aviators. they have been playing together for the most part since they were 12 or 13 on traps, and if anyone knows there has been some good players come off that team in the past. (the general, Dawg) lol. Not just off that team but other travel teams surrounding the area. Northeast Ohio has great baseball players, thats why the leagues are so competitive come season time.

nwfan8
01-26-08, 03:35 AM
For Northwest pitching you will have McAvenew as the ace senior, Faust senior, Johnson Junior, Macko Sophmore, Szilagyi Junior, and Booth Junior. All have varsity experience and I'm not sure what order they will be in. We a new coach as well and I think I heard that Tanksley our Defencive football coach got the job but not confirmed.

Insane_Indian
01-26-08, 05:07 PM
For Northwest pitching you will have McAvenew as the ace senior, Faust senior, Johnson Junior, Macko Sophmore, Szilagyi Junior, and Booth Junior. All have varsity experience and I'm not sure what order they will be in. We a new coach as well and I think I heard that Tanksley our Defencive football coach got the job but not confirmed.

According to my Sources Tanksley will be Hired monday as the Baseball Coach.

nwfan8
01-27-08, 03:46 AM
I honestly don't understand that decision at all. It will be intresting to say the least to see how that works out.

Insane_Indian
01-27-08, 01:50 PM
I honestly don't understand that decision at all. It will be intresting to say the least to see how that works out.

I think its because he was applying for head coaching jobs around the area for football, and we want him to stay for football because of his defensive mind. As far as Northwest for Baseball, the Indians are Led by SS Andrew McAvinew and C Jon Semlsburger.

EE25
01-27-08, 04:10 PM
Keepit,
Sounds to me like you have a little bitterness towards Tim. Anyway talked to him last week at PBA and he is probably going to Marrietta. He received a financial aid package better than a DI scholarship for an infielder, so not a bad place to wind up.

SWATorNOT
01-28-08, 10:45 PM
West Branch's best baseball coach does not even coach on the baseball team- He is a coach on the football team... i know it sounds crazy you folks out there in the WB know what's up

BgStck45
01-29-08, 10:06 AM
I think everyone knows that...

SWATorNOT
01-29-08, 05:40 PM
Louisville
Alliance
Marlington West Branch 3 and 3a
Canton South
Louisville on PAPER is the team to beat, but you dont play on paper, I think any of the 5 i listed could win the NBC
Did Alliance step up it's non-conf games or are they still playing the Akron City Series

nwfan8
01-30-08, 06:52 PM
I think its because he was applying for head coaching jobs around the area for football, and we want him to stay for football because of his defensive mind. As far as Northwest for Baseball, the Indians are Led by SS Andrew McAvinew and C Jon Semlsburger.

I completely agree with that statement. Watch out for Jon's bat and Andrew pitching. They will be very good this year. That's a stupid reason to hire a coach I think it shows how much baseball is valued here which is none, at least from anyone outside players and their parents and a few exceptions I'm sure.

BgStck45
01-30-08, 09:51 PM
Any NBC teams going anywhere for spring break?

swingin4thefence
01-30-08, 10:14 PM
i did hear Alliance had a couple tripS lined up. A tourney in Kentucky, and one in Indiana....Anyone know anymore about that? Would love to of seen them go back down to Tarboro though.

bushman20
01-31-08, 01:03 PM
Spring break times are different this season...I would like to see the aviators go back down to the amazing city of Tarboro, North Carolina and defend the crown. Great competition and community down there.

warriors378
02-01-08, 10:31 AM
West Branch's best baseball coach does not even coach on the baseball team- He is a coach on the football team... i know it sounds crazy you folks out there in the WB know what's up

Yeah, you're right. Shawn Alazaus is the DC for the football team and he used to play a little pro baseball. He coached Columbina baseball for a few years. I don't know why he's not a coach at WB.

SWATorNOT
02-01-08, 02:07 PM
Nor do I

bushman20
02-01-08, 03:56 PM
Shawn had a lot of success at Alliance for a few years as well.

EE25
02-01-08, 11:15 PM
Swat
Alliance is 22-6 in the very tough NBC the last two seasons. What does non conference mean?

bushman20
02-02-08, 11:00 AM
Alliance has never really had anything close to a "tough" non-conference schedule over the past few years. But I do agree with EE on this one that being successful in the nbc alone is enough to get you the #1 seed in the Canton District.

SWATorNOT
02-02-08, 05:07 PM
Prep for tough teams in tourny... Would Akron East, North, Central and what ever scrubs Alliance plays nc get u ready to face good pitching- pounding a team 15-0, 15-1 in a sat. dh will get u ready to play NO ONE sorry jmho

SWATorNOT
02-02-08, 05:16 PM
I take nothing away from Alliance if it sounds that way, indeed they did go downs south last year and won that tourny so it could not be all bad, just would like to see a fri nite game at G.O. or Perry and maybe a dh with one other fed team , just a 3 game swing i think would help more than cupcake city

EE25
02-02-08, 05:40 PM
Alliance used to play Perry under the lites until they cancelled one year because they said they had some conflict when in reality they went to scout a game because they were out of pitching. So why should anyone play them when it is only on there terms when the conditions are right for them. Used to play Central also until they would only play on Wednesday's in between league games, who would would whan that? But I see what you are saying also, in a sense. And also, Alliance has a big drop in enrollement and have a hard time playing big schools in any sport. I root for all of stark county anyway, G is just a good friend.

SWATorNOT
02-02-08, 06:35 PM
Perry has always played the Gamble Game over there

sportsguy2
02-02-08, 11:52 PM
look at alliance non league schedule in any sport they have its weak its been like that for a little while now they need to bring some of them federal league schools back on the schudule it will only help them out in the long run forget about what it might do to your record....SWAT said it best who cares if you kill a team 15-0 wouldnt ya rather play a good team and have it be 5-3 or so your getting more outta that then killing a team

EE25
02-03-08, 09:32 AM
Alliance would have stayed in the Federal League if they had the numbers, they got out for a reason. As for baseball, 22-6 in the NBC, District and league Champions, beat Gill, Smith and Newhart 7 of 9 times, beat Canfield and Berlin Hiland. All this in a two year span. Your theory holds no water.

swingin4thefence
02-03-08, 11:52 AM
Very well said!! :cool: Give credit where credit is due, because the "weak" non conference schedule had nothing to do with that record.....:rainbow:

EE25
02-03-08, 01:01 PM
True
And now back to the topic, because the past is history. 2008 is a new year and should be a lot of fun watching games in this league.

bushman20
02-03-08, 03:18 PM
I'll ask again, since they're the only school we haven't discussed. What is Canton South looking like this season? With the new faces they'll have at many spots what are everyone's thoughts?

SWATorNOT
02-04-08, 10:31 PM
What players this year will go on to play college ball d1,2 or 3

BgStck45
02-06-08, 09:06 AM
Tyler Newhart-Wright State

I looked up Alliances baseball schedule and saw that they are playing green, waterloo, southeast, mckinley, highland, and ravenna this year. Looks like they lost the akron and y-town schools.

KEEPITBROOTL
02-06-08, 11:57 PM
Josh Graham- Mercyhurst D2
also talk of John Lucore going to Marietta which is a D3 powerhouse

warriors378
02-07-08, 06:50 AM
Tyler Newhart-Wright State

I looked up Alliances baseball schedule and saw that they are playing green, waterloo, southeast, mckinley, highland, and ravenna this year. Looks like they lost the akron and y-town schools.

Buffalo was looking at him last year.

Perry01
02-07-08, 01:49 PM
[QUOTE]Buffalo was looking at him last year.[QUOTE]


From my understanding he turned down a number of other D 1 offers. Akron,Xavier,West Virginia were some of the ones I was told.

Insane_Indian
02-08-08, 10:44 PM
I completely agree with that statement. Watch out for Jon's bat and Andrew pitching. They will be very good this year. That's a stupid reason to hire a coach I think it shows how much baseball is valued here which is none, at least from anyone outside players and their parents and a few exceptions I'm sure.

Andrew wont pitch this year for NW. The #1 starter will be either Duane Faust or Taylor Johnson

nwfan8
02-09-08, 03:59 AM
Donny Macko and Jordan Booth will be up there as well I think.

Insane_Indian
02-10-08, 12:19 AM
Donny Macko and Jordan Booth will be up there as well I think.

your right, they prolly will be in the rotation

nwfan8
02-13-08, 12:05 PM
Well A week and 5 days untill the first day for pitchers and catchers. The season is coming up here before we know it. I don't know how well Tanksley will do at the Varsity job though. Does anyone have any suggestions for an assistant varsity coach for Northwest. We are still looking for one and if anyone has a suggestion on someone who is still looking let me know thanks.

Legend39
02-13-08, 03:48 PM
dave kurzan...

111411
02-28-08, 06:21 PM
Why does someone from sebring act like they know so much about the NBC?

I don't need to "act" like I know about the NBC. I am very familiar with many of the WB and Alliance players, so I do have an idea of what they bring to the table.

You want to give your opinion, go ahead, I'll give mine.

swingin4thefence
02-28-08, 06:37 PM
Why does someone from sebring act like they know so much about the NBC?

He knows alot more then most, as he spent a few months coaching some of the finest baseball players the NBC will have this year! :cool:

111411
02-28-08, 11:19 PM
He knows alot more then most, as he spent a few months coaching some of the finest baseball players the NBC will have this year! :cool:

There are some pretty good baseball players on both WB and Alliance. I'd love to see the game when they play each other. Perhaps they can schedule around Sebring games. :D

111411
02-29-08, 05:12 PM
Unless 111411 is Trent McIlvain, Jeff Wallace, or Shawn Alazaus I dont really want to hear about coaching a lot of good athletes around this area. The only way you would coach them is in hot stove league. If this area is so good with baseball, then why do the players opt for traveling teams/class B ball in Youngstown or Canton instead of the wonderful Hot Stove league of Alliance and Sebring??

None of those kids played Hot Stove baseball. Try again. They traveled.

bushman20
02-29-08, 06:13 PM
Unless 111411 is Trent McIlvain, Jeff Wallace, or Shawn Alazaus I dont really want to hear about coaching a lot of good athletes around this area. The only way you would coach them is in hot stove league. If this area is so good with baseball, then why do the players opt for traveling teams/class B ball in Youngstown or Canton instead of the wonderful Hot Stove league of Alliance and Sebring??


111411: He probably ran into the 'group' somewhere down the line and like the majority of teams that did, he probably lost.

Just a question...Trent McIlvain, Jeff Wallace, and Shawn Alazaus have coached what good athletes? I have great respect for the first two...but they coached alot of good players last season after they signed their letters of intent, and already became good players.
And on a serious note...Alazaus? Really? His glory days were over when he left Alliance a decade ago.

111411
02-29-08, 06:20 PM
That "group" did beat a lot of teams. The third base coach on that team sure is a laidback sort of guy. He needs to show a little excitement. :laugh:

bushman20
02-29-08, 06:22 PM
That "group" did beat a lot of teams. The third base coach on that team sure is a laidback sort of guy. He needs to show a little excitement. :laugh:

I know this is bias...I'm gunna go out and say that the third base coach you're referring to is who I would credit for most of these athletes being as good as we're talking about. If this 'knowitall' knew anything he would know that.

111411
02-29-08, 06:31 PM
I know this is bias...I'm gunna go out and say that the third base coach you're referring to is who I would credit for most of these athletes being as good as we're talking about. If this 'knowitall' knew anything he would know that.

That would be correct.

111411
02-29-08, 06:32 PM
Look for Brent Stoffer and Matt Tafe to contribute for WB. Both are juniors and solid ball players.

3sport
02-29-08, 06:51 PM
Alazaus actually coached some pretty good ball players when he was at Columbiana... one is playing down in South Carolina-Aiken... to say his glory days are over is a little far stretched

111411
02-29-08, 07:13 PM
Alazaus did a nice job at Columbiana. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the running when the WB job comes open.

swingin4thefence
02-29-08, 07:37 PM
Myself, I think "Mr. Know it All" needs to seriosusly think about changing his username!! :shrug: Cuz even "I" know more then him!!!! :blush: HA!HA!HA!HA!:blush:

Steamin1818
03-01-08, 01:14 AM
Bunch of cry babies in here...

The NBC will likely come down to WB, Louisville and Alliance.

The major thing that the front runners need to do is avoid upsets. Josh Graham at Carrolton can shut down any team on any given day, and with Morrison Marlington is always tough. Marlington is always tough if they're playing Alliance.

Each of the top teams has areas of concern: WB has lack of starting pitching and weak defense, louisville is very young with lack of depth, and Alliance is extremely young after losing 8 seniors last year, 7 of which started (ehhhh). Coach graffice will have the kids ready, but do they have the fire in them?

bushman20
03-01-08, 05:15 AM
Bunch of cry babies in here...

The NBC will likely come down to WB, Louisville and Alliance.

The major thing that the front runners need to do is avoid upsets. Josh Graham at Carrolton can shut down any team on any given day, and with Morrison Marlington is always tough. Marlington is always tough if they're playing Alliance.

Each of the top teams has areas of concern: WB has lack of starting pitching and weak defense, louisville is very young with lack of depth, and Alliance is extremely young after losing 8 seniors last year, 7 of which started (ehhhh). Coach graffice will have the kids ready, but do they have the fire in them?



Nobody could have said it better...nice first post coach.

:welcome:

WBWFanatic
03-03-08, 01:04 PM
wow seriously you guys know nothing!

santa
03-03-08, 01:20 PM
wow seriously you guys know nothing!

And what is it that you know that none of us do?

111411
03-03-08, 05:09 PM
Which kids are you talking about?

If you are talking about Alliance kids, Nordquist, Brick, Williams, Hendershot, Ritchie, and Mclendon all traveled.

bushman20
03-03-08, 05:10 PM
Which kids are you talking about?



In the NBC alone The 2007,2008, and 2009 classes have had alot of players that have traveled come up through and have more success in their programs.

Alliance:
Coty Bates*
Ryan Nordquist*
Andrew Hendershot*
Ronnie Hull*
Logan Nordquist*
JJ Williams*
Robert Brick*
Evan Ritchie*
Marquez McLendon*
Aundrey Hendershot*

Marlington:
Mike Gorman*
Timmy Stinson*
Bobby Suitca
John Lucore
Nate Morrison
Chad Sirilla
Adam Knam*
Cael Benedict*

West Branch:
Evan Cambell
Brent Stoffer*
Jarred Harris
Tyler Newhart
Steve McNeely

Canton South:
Justin Gill
Devon Torrence

Carrollton:
Josh Graham*
Corey Turkovich*
Kurtis Johnson*


I think it's safe to say that these names are what talent has been talked about the past few years in the NBC...all of them played travel baseball. For any out there that might know of anyone I may have missed, feel free to add them to the list.



*Played for Traps Sports Center coached by Bruce Nordquist and Mark Whitaker. Definitely not Hot Stove Baseball. Most of the names I've listed all play against one another at some point during their summerball seasons.

swingin4thefence
03-03-08, 05:40 PM
You know...I just recently started coming here when listening to other parents and stuff talk about this site. I guess I didn't know of such a following for high school baseball. The funny thing is.....a lot of you guys are probably players, that have like A year of experience at the high school level. So i'm sure its fun to trash talk and and make predictions.

The other half is kind of unexplainable. I know i've made some posts already but it just got me thinking more. Are other parents and stuff so lame that they have to come on here and rip a coach or player of another team? To hear someone talk about players that will be good or do this or do that is just ridiculus. I see some of the predictions about playing time on here and just wonder....what the ---- are you thinking? Get over the kids you used to coach. Just because they are able to hit a 70 mph fastball when you had them doesn't mean they can hit a 70 mph curve ball that drops 6 inches now. I'm not going to give any examples or player names because I find that quite tasteless and these are young adults that dont deserve the drama you like to create.

On a final note - With more sports being offered to kids of all ages, maybe its time to get more serious about the real coaches teaching fundamentals and the history of the game instead of the mom/dad coaches that cater to their son/daughter.

REAL coaches that teach the fundamentals are exactly what bring championship teams....KNOWING how to play the game, love the game, and most importantly, knowing how to respect the game of baseball......That is exactly what you will find in EACH AND everyone of the kids listed above!! Being a TEAM, is what attracted most of these kids to travel baseball....They gained stronger friendships, and most important of all they learned how to play the game at a MUCH higher level......Now, I am NOT SURE what you find to be so LAME....Whether I myself am a parent, a coach or A PLAYER, DOESN'T MATTER!!!

AND also....I cannot speak for ALL the players that post on here, but as for the list of players above...They ALL have much more then A year of playing time!!!.....Next time Mr. Know it all, brush up on some of that "knowledge" you claim to have.......

Parents that DO coach their own children, sometimes are HARDER on their own son/daughter then they are on the other players....BUT, in my OWN experience....There is nothing worse then a former player of baseball that is now a coach and has NO CLUE on how to teach, or coach....It takes a special person to be able to coach, and get through to some of these kids nowadays......Being a ex-player doesn't ALWAYS make you the qualified candidate!...:shrug:

There's my 2 cents on it....Much more then 2 cents I know, but its MY opinion!!...Which is something we are all entitled to!!

bushman20
03-03-08, 06:44 PM
REAL coaches that teach the fundamentals are exactly what bring championship teams....KNOWING how to play the game, love the game, and most importantly, knowing how to respect the game of baseball......That is exactly what you will find in EACH AND everyone of the kids listed above!! Being a TEAM, is what attracted most of these kids to travel baseball....They gained stronger friendships, and most important of all they learned how to play the game at a MUCH higher level......Now, I am NOT SURE what you find to be so LAME....Whether I myself am a parent, a coach or A PLAYER, DOESN'T MATTER!!!

AND also....I cannot speak for ALL the players that post on here, but as for the list of players above...They ALL have much more then A year of playing time!!!.....Next time Mr. Know it all, brush up on some of that "knowledge" you claim to have.......

Parents that DO coach their own children, sometimes are HARDER on their own son/daughter then they are on the other players....BUT, in my OWN experience....There is nothing worse then a former player of baseball that is now a coach and has NO CLUE on how to teach, or coach....It takes a special person to be able to coach, and get through to some of these kids nowadays......Being a ex-player doesn't ALWAYS make you the qualified candidate!...:shrug:

There's my 2 cents on it....Much more then 2 cents I know, but its MY opinion!!...Which is something we are all entitled to!!




:clap:

lol

user1
03-03-08, 08:04 PM
You know...I just recently started coming here when listening to other parents and stuff talk about this site. I guess I didn't know of such a following for high school baseball. The funny thing is.....a lot of you guys are probably players, that have like A year of experience at the high school level. So i'm sure its fun to trash talk and and make predictions.

The other half is kind of unexplainable. I know i've made some posts already but it just got me thinking more. Are other parents and stuff so lame that they have to come on here and rip a coach or player of another team? To hear someone talk about players that will be good or do this or do that is just ridiculus. I see some of the predictions about playing time on here and just wonder....what the ---- are you thinking? Get over the kids you used to coach. Just because they are able to hit a 70 mph fastball when you had them doesn't mean they can hit a 70 mph curve ball that drops 6 inches now. I'm not going to give any examples or player names because I find that quite tasteless and these are young adults that dont deserve the drama you like to create.

On a final note - With more sports being offered to kids of all ages, maybe its time to get more serious about the real coaches teaching fundamentals and the history of the game instead of the mom/dad coaches that cater to their son/daughter.

What are you trying to say I knowitAllWB- BECAUSE you KNOW NOTHING. You are a poor representation for the West Branch fan or player. I think it's great if someone's dad cares enough about his son to coach him . Usually the dad's kids are the best players#1 because the dad expects the most out of his son. Most of us on the sight are players because we want to see who's back in the league or who did get a college scholy.
IF YOU DON"T WANT TO SEE WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO SAY- STAY OFF OF YAPPI- Lighten up-:wallbang:

bushman20
03-04-08, 01:07 PM
The part I am calling lame are the parents that come here and feel the need to talk crap about coaches and players. It was really meant to be a thread to go out to one person...but maybe everyone else has a guilty conscience!!

Strike 1
You ripped on "talent in this area" and the coaches from the area stating that if their names aren't Jeff Wallace, Trent McIlvain, or Shawn Alazaus then there's noway they are a good coach.
Strike 2
You called out a moderator...who hands down knows more about the game of baseball and the West Branch baseball players than you will ever know.
Strike 3
You cant compare baseball 15 years ago to what it is now. 15 years ago hot stove baseball meant something. You didn't have a 'family organization' running the concession stand and filtering everything that goes in and out of that building (money, equipment, etc)...you had people who were dedicated to the sole purpose of what that kind of baseball is about: inspiring and teaching the youth. You had parents and players who were there to actually play/watch baseball, not be satisfied with losing and have mommy there in her soccer mom van passing out juice cups.

Travel Baseball has become more popular over the past few years because Hot Stove baseball has become wrapped up in so much politics it's not even about the game anymore. It's about who's doing what and why the **** are they doing it that way. Hot stove baseball has become a feeding ground for egotistic parents to get their son/daughter playing time by being apart of a coaching staff. The integrity of the organization has well....there isn't really any in my opinion. I've played hot stove baseball, I've ran the gauntlet I guess you can say. I along with many others, left and played travel baseball and can honestly say it's the best thing a parent can do for their child. Results don't lie. Read the list I made before and see how many are playing College Baseball from that list alone. This is coming off of my experience and knowledge with the Alliance Hot Stove Organization. I'm sure 111411 knows all there is to know about Sebring's.

user1
03-04-08, 02:41 PM
Travel ball is designed for excellent players who want to travel to tournaments where there are college scouts, unless you're a Derek Jeter or an A-Rod baseball scholarships(50% to full rides) are hard to get- If Iknowitall knows the game of baseball he'd know why parents put the time/money into their kids. To bad baseball didn't give money like football programs- that's why a lot of players go D2 instead of D1 - Money......... D2 and smaller can offer more for the players.
The NBC has some of the best talent in the area. Look for example Carrollton-didn't do well at all in the NBC but got put into a different bracket for tourney and dominated. Josh Graham carried the team with his pitching, but in the NBC every team has a few dominate pitchers that's what makes this league so great!

warriors378
03-05-08, 07:10 AM
Strike 1
You ripped on "talent in this area" and the coaches from the area stating that if their names aren't Jeff Wallace, Trent McIlvain, or Shawn Alazaus then there's noway they are a good coach.
Strike 2
You called out a moderator...who hands down knows more about the game of baseball and the West Branch baseball players than you will ever know.
Strike 3
You cant compare baseball 15 years ago to what it is now. 15 years ago hot stove baseball meant something. You didn't have a 'family organization' running the concession stand and filtering everything that goes in and out of that building (money, equipment, etc)...you had people who were dedicated to the sole purpose of what that kind of baseball is about: inspiring and teaching the youth. You had parents and players who were there to actually play/watch baseball, not be satisfied with losing and have mommy there in her soccer mom van passing out juice cups.

Travel Baseball has become more popular over the past few years because Hot Stove baseball has become wrapped up in so much politics it's not even about the game anymore. It's about who's doing what and why the **** are they doing it that way. Hot stove baseball has become a feeding ground for egotistic parents to get their son/daughter playing time by being apart of a coaching staff. The integrity of the organization has well....there isn't really any in my opinion. I've played hot stove baseball, I've ran the gauntlet I guess you can say. I along with many others, left and played travel baseball and can honestly say it's the best thing a parent can do for their child. Results don't lie. Read the list I made before and see how many are playing College Baseball from that list alone. This is coming off of my experience and knowledge with the Alliance Hot Stove Organization. I'm sure 111411 knows all there is to know about Sebring's.

thank you, bushman20. As a WB student, I'm completely embarassed by his comments on here. I'm thinking about hiding until the radiation leaves.

bushman20
03-07-08, 10:34 PM
ttt