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baseballin4Life
11-03-07, 11:32 AM
who are the top freashman you know?
bringbackmiddiemagic
11-04-07, 03:48 AM
Austin Downing is a name to know and remember for the next couple years. he can do anything on the baseball field he goes to Middletown
middie fan
11-05-07, 12:21 AM
You are right about the Downing kid.I got to watch a couple of the Middie Pride (14 yr.select)games this summer and he pitched, catched and played ss.He hit the ball with good power for a 14 year old.One of the games I saw him hit a ball off the center field fence on the Middies varsity field. It should be fun to watch him for 4 years in high school. I should also say he has very good speed.
baseballin4Life
11-05-07, 04:44 PM
i played against downing the kid can hit ...i was waiting for my game to start he parked one out the kid can play
One&Only
11-05-07, 06:11 PM
Joe Panos- Wyoming
Jonothan Tighe- Wyoming
middie fan
11-08-07, 12:53 AM
Baesball fans, a friend told me about a baseball website that is great. Go to COOPERSTOWNDREAMSPARK.COM and take a look. I didnt know the middie pride select team played there in 2005 and won week 5 championship.Their team picture is there and other info. about the championship game. The team still holds the record for the most bunt hits in one wk.. Austin Downing still holds the records for rbi batted in 1wk., most intentional walks offensively by a player in 1 wk.,most runs scored in 1 wk.and most strike outs by a pitcher in one wk.. If you have the time this is a great website to take a look at. All this info is under 12 yr.olds
Is this Downing kid going to stay in Middletown? What state is their baseball program in?
bringbackmiddiemagic
11-13-07, 11:26 PM
Is this Downing kid going to stay in Middletown? What state is their baseball program in?
trust me he'll be staying in middletown.... theres a load of freshman that are amazing there........ kyle schwarber, austin downing, tj yenke(didn't play from middie pride) theres more to name and those three right there will be starting for the football team next year also. austin is one of the best athletes i've ever seen. he's going to be the starting safety in football next year and the kid is amazing in basketball also
bringbackmiddiemagic
11-13-07, 11:29 PM
o yeah.... tj yenke worked out with pete rose jr. in one on one sessions and went to the pete rose hitting camp and was hitting with the college kids. there's some amazing freshman on that team.
Lancers11
11-20-07, 08:01 PM
Elder will be the toughest freshman team in my opinion
OakHills_Scots11
11-20-07, 08:11 PM
Elder will be the toughest freshman team in my opinion
Elder has alot of talent a couple names would be Ian Korb a catcher and outfielder can hit with power and is pretty fast. Another name is Ben Russell the Elder to Oak Hills to Elder transfer. He hit a 340' grand slam at veterans park this past year.
Also Oak Hills has a few prospects Jay Schunk a ss/c. Braden Alcorn a
P/SS/3B can hit for power and throws close to the 80's and Dylan Simkin a catcher and ss plays for j.b. yeager.
bomberfball91
11-30-07, 09:00 AM
I heard ryan martin has a little brother- think hes a freshman- heard he was unbelievable
Centerville will have a great freshman team
Austen use to be a great player out sized everybody threw harder then anybody, hit farther then anybody. Except for last year last year i noticed kids around him grew and caught up and he wasn't over powering anybody anymore, or hitting bombs anymore. Although he is a good player hes no longer the top player as he use to be.
I like:
Kevin Brinkman ( moeller)
Max Tarhar (Lakota?)
OakHills_Scots11
12-10-07, 07:40 PM
What do you guys think about the Oak Hills Freshman squad some talent there in my opinion.
middie fan
12-11-07, 12:22 AM
Austen use to be a great player out sized everybody threw harder then anybody, hit farther then anybody. Except for last year last year i noticed kids around him grew and caught up and he wasn't over powering anybody anymore, or hitting bombs anymore. Although he is a good player hes no longer the top player as he use to be.
I like:
Kevin Brinkman ( moeller)
Max Tarhar (Lakota?)
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
middie fan
12-11-07, 12:44 AM
Austen use to be a great player out sized everybody threw harder then anybody, hit farther then anybody. Except for last year last year i noticed kids around him grew and caught up and he wasn't over powering anybody anymore, or hitting bombs anymore. Although he is a good player hes no longer the top player as he use to be.
I like:
Kevin Brinkman ( moeller)
Max Tarhar (Lakota?)
I feel like i should say more than my last post. You should not be slamming a young kid like this. Sounds like his team has beaten your or your sons team and this is your way of striking back. How many games did you see him play last summer? How many games did you see him pitch? Do you know what numbers he put up this past summer? You must know to make these statments. Will be waiting for your answers. Then i have for you.
triplej3
12-11-07, 12:28 PM
Brandon Bauman from Rittman High School will be a starter on their varsity team this season. He was the starting QB on the varsity football team and is the second guy off the varsity bench on the basketball team
He can play any position, and will primarily belloked at, at C, SS, and P
AnUnbiasedOpinion
12-11-07, 02:30 PM
Downing is an outstanding baseball player. Yes, others have narrowed the gap as they started to catch up physically the last couple of years, but he still remains at or near the top from what I've seen.
Only saw him 1 game last year. He still hit bombs in that one. Still runs well. The fast ball wasn't unhittable at 60.5' but it was still fast. IMO he needs to gain more confidence/reliance in his offspeed pitches. The best 14 year olds were getting around on the fastball pretty easily so you can be sure the varsity players won't have any problem with it, especially if they are waiting for it.
I've got to believe that Downing will start on varsity at Middletown and be one of their key players on offense, defense, and on the mound. He definitely deserves to be mentioned among the top of all the freshman players this year.
middie fan
12-12-07, 12:44 AM
Downing is an outstanding baseball player. Yes, others have narrowed the gap as they started to catch up physically the last couple of years, but he still remains at or near the top from what I've seen.
Only saw him 1 game last year. He still hit bombs in that one. Still runs well. The fast ball wasn't unhittable at 60.5' but it was still fast. IMO he needs to gain more confidence/reliance in his offspeed pitches. The best 14 year olds were getting around on the fastball pretty easily so you can be sure the varsity players won't have any problem with it, especially if they are waiting for it.
I've got to believe that Downing will start on varsity at Middletown and be one of their key players on offense, defense, and on the mound. He definitely deserves to be mentioned among the top of all the freshman players this year.
As i stated in a previous post,i only saw him play a couple games last summer.I think your post is right on target.Sounds like you know your baseball.I think if he reads this , he will not forget your post and work on it
I feel like i should say more than my last post. You should not be slamming a young kid like this. Sounds like his team has beaten your or your sons team and this is your way of striking back. How many games did you see him play last summer? How many games did you see him pitch? Do you know what numbers he put up this past summer? You must know to make these statments. Will be waiting for your answers. Then i have for you.
I am not slamming the kid in anyway. I am giving my full opinion, kids have caught up to him. He use to be the top player in the league without a doubt, but kids have just caught up.. It happens in every sport and by no means am i "slamming the kid" he's a great player and a great kid.
and no... it's not a case of sour grapes in anyway..
StateChamp I AM 81
01-12-08, 04:53 PM
OakHills Scots11,
That was not Ben russell who hit the 340' grand slam over veterans park, that was Braden Alcorn from Oak Hills who hit the grand slam off Ben Cafaro from Elder, i was there and witnessed it.. Also a little FYI, Russell is back at oak hills
stayflyyy22
01-14-08, 06:33 PM
Austen use to be a great player out sized everybody threw harder then anybody, hit farther then anybody. Except for last year last year i noticed kids around him grew and caught up and he wasn't over powering anybody anymore, or hitting bombs anymore. Although he is a good player hes no longer the top player as he use to be.
I like:
Kevin Brinkman ( moeller)
Max Tarhar (Lakota?)
kevin brinkman is a good player, he played in a tournament with my team and i think he hit like 2 doubles and a homerun angainst the heat.
There is another kid from Moeller named Kyle robinett, he is not as good as kevin with the bat but he can pitch pretty well. He mixes up his pitches and hits his spots and he has great composure for a young kid.
xavierfan77
01-15-08, 08:50 AM
I've heard of Kevin Brinkman and Kyle Robinett. They both played for the cincinnati crusaders. I think kevin hit 6 homeruns last year for them
takenonames
01-15-08, 09:08 AM
i watched kevin brinkman and kyle robinett play against middie pride. kyle hit a walk off homerun and kevin made diving catches in the outfield
thePITman
01-16-08, 01:15 PM
Sawyer Polen, Triway
He is something special.
xtitanmanager
01-16-08, 02:25 PM
Sawyer Polen, Triway
He is something special.
What was the deal with Sawyer and Clemson?
fivebuckeyes
01-19-08, 12:42 PM
Elder has alot of talent a couple names would be Ian Korb a catcher and outfielder can hit with power and is pretty fast. Another name is Ben Russell the Elder to Oak Hills to Elder transfer. He hit a 340' grand slam at veterans park this past year.
Also Oak Hills has a few prospects Jay Schunk a ss/c. Braden Alcorn a
P/SS/3B can hit for power and throws close to the 80's and Dylan Simkin a catcher and ss plays for j.b. yeager.
Who do all these kids play for in the summer? They don't all play for J.B. Yeager do they?
thePITman
01-19-08, 02:32 PM
What was the deal with Sawyer and Clemson?
As a Freshman, Sawyer went to the Clemson baseball camp and impressed the coaches enough that they said when he graduates, he "will" play for Clemson if he so chooses.
Something that doesn't necessarily translate into a great baseball player, but he won a prestegious homerun derby a few years ago, and he and a few others got to have a nice, long dinner with Jim Thome at some really nice restaraunt. That had to be have been a blast!
canes03
01-19-08, 08:59 PM
Who do all these kids play for in the summer? They don't all play for J.B. Yeager do they?
korb russell and alcorn play for weststars and bat 3,4,5 simken jb yeager and schunk cincy scots 16u
BaseballRepresent
01-24-08, 01:28 PM
has a talented freshmen catcher prospect in brian peters. great bat, great arm, good baseball knowledge for a 14 year old. big also: 6'1 190. one position woodridge won't be lacking in when the class of '08 graduates will be the catcher's position.
Mr. BALLAHOLIC
02-09-08, 10:14 AM
I Know that withrow Is in the Not so good CMAC but they have 2 amazing freshman this year, Mykeal Parker a 5'9 1st baseman with an amazing glove and a pretty Nice bat ,and Sean Jones A Catcher/3rd baseman A nice lefty with a great glove Remember these names because im pretty sure you'll hear them soon.
Schunk is good friend of mine, played with him on the scots and he is a hard worker. Really is. gotta give the kid credit. HARD WORKER. will be helpful in the next year or two to the oak hills program. Also braden alcorn played with him in the years back. Always played up as far as i know and always has been able tio match most of the older teams. Haven seen him play for a couple years now. But he has told me a couple things and seems lik he is on the right track. There are some stand outs at oak hills that should help out in the years to come.
comet13
02-09-08, 06:39 PM
What about the solon's freshmen squad? Anyone got some news on them?
lslancer24
02-12-08, 12:58 PM
Oak hills freshman has some talent... but not so much... THeir best players were good when they were younger but now others are catching up to them.
Small ball
02-12-08, 02:20 PM
I know that Sebring has some really good Freshman coming up. All of whom will play jv ball. A nice left handed pitcher in Tyler Whitlatch, he's 6'1 170,and can throw hard and has great command. I watched him pitch last summer when his summer F league team won the state championship.He could also see some Varsity action on the weekends this year. Sebring also has some good hitters coming in Chase Good, and Tyler Rinehart.
I know that Sebring has some really good Freshman coming up. All of whom will play jv ball. A nice left handed pitcher in Tyler Whitlatch, he's 6'1 170,and can throw hard and has great command. I watched him pitch last summer when his summer F league team won the state championship.He could also see some Varsity action on the weekends this year. Sebring also has some good hitters coming in Chase Good, and Tyler Rinehart.
I hope they do well. Varsity pitching is vastly different than F League pitching.
Small ball
02-12-08, 02:33 PM
I understand that but I think you would agree that it would be some great experience. Throw them in the fire and see how they come out.
The Natural
02-12-08, 02:41 PM
I agree with 11's Varsity is a big jump from F League. I think that the Good kid is 6'3 200plus, and rinehart goes about 6'1 170. That is some nice size coming up. Can't wait to watch them play especially on a day like this when we are burried in the snow.
Small ball
02-12-08, 02:45 PM
Amen, I could go for a good whif of ball dirt about now.
Redsalltheway
02-12-08, 03:34 PM
at reading the top 3 freshman are antoun, pavilack, and lacinak...although lacinak and pavilack are a little undersized they work hard
Small ball
02-12-08, 04:52 PM
That is the great equalizer.
BaseballGuy2
02-13-08, 07:35 PM
A couple of bigtime frosh ive seen would be Mike Wells and Matt Sullivan from Centerville. Mike is a P, 1B quick hands and great power. Sullivan is a smooth shortstop with a strong arm and a great pitcher who can throw 3 pitches for strikes. Although Centerville will not allow freshman to move up because thats there way. I would also say Garrett Vonberge (Dayton Christian) Tony Davis and Stephen Holland (Edgewood) Josh Lakes (Wayne) Zane Pitzer and Teddy Link (Alter) Nick McGill (Carlisle) Ian Huss and Kyle King (Springboro)
bballnutz
02-13-08, 10:39 PM
Not really. Nice kid, but lazy. Doesn't block well. Swings for the fences. Easy out.
fivebuckeyes
02-14-08, 06:55 PM
Aren't those all Patterson Park Canes kids?
BaseballGuy2
02-14-08, 07:04 PM
Mike Wells Nick McGill Josh Lakes teddy link and Kyle King are. Sullivan plays for the raiders, Vonberge is with the lightning and im not sure where holland and davis are playing.
BaseballGuy2
02-14-08, 07:05 PM
Mike Wells Nick McGill Josh Lakes teddy link and Kyle King are. Sullivan plays for the raiders, Vonberge is with the lightning and im not sure where holland pitzer huss and davis are playing.
fivebuckeyes
02-16-08, 01:56 PM
Huss is playing for the Dayton Dodgers
A couple of bigtime frosh ive seen would be Mike Wells and Matt Sullivan from Centerville. Mike is a P, 1B quick hands and great power. Sullivan is a smooth shortstop with a strong arm and a great pitcher who can throw 3 pitches for strikes. Although Centerville will not allow freshman to move up because thats there way. I would also say Garrett Vonberge (Dayton Christian) Tony Davis and Stephen Holland (Edgewood) Josh Lakes (Wayne) Zane Pitzer and Teddy Link (Alter) Nick McGill (Carlisle) Ian Huss and Kyle King (Springboro)
Chris Kuzma is another talented freshman at Centerville. He qualified for the Canes and Raiders but is playing for Kinect in Cincinnati.
OakHills_Scots11
02-19-08, 09:28 AM
OakHills Scots11,
That was not Ben russell who hit the 340' grand slam over veterans park, that was Braden Alcorn from Oak Hills who hit the grand slam off Ben Cafaro from Elder, i was there and witnessed it.. Also a little FYI, Russell is back at oak hills
well all i know is he did hit a home run there and the message i posted was before he came back
triplej3
02-19-08, 01:20 PM
Pitman is the Polen kid of the Waynedale Polens?
happygilmore
02-24-08, 12:16 PM
I heard ryan martin has a little brother- think hes a freshman- heard he was unbelievable
i have seen the martin kid play and he is an amazing all around player he can kill the ball and is fast enough and athletic enough to play anywhere on the field
he is also an amazing pitcher probably hitting higher 70's to low 80's last year as an 8th grader i cant wait to see what he does as a turpin baseball player
im also pretty sure he played quarterback for the turpin freshman team this year
happygilmore
02-24-08, 12:25 PM
has anyone heard anything about the freshman for mcnick this year
Does anyone know if Hamilton's Freshman team has :shrug: any Talent?:shrug:
ballplayer11
03-04-08, 08:06 PM
watch out for a lake bloomer going to elder. Nick Connor played for Weststars
last few years always a good ball player who now has the size to back it up.
Bats left with good power to all fields. Can play 3rd , 2nd , or short.
Remember the name
thePITman
03-04-08, 08:24 PM
Pitman is the Polen kid of the Waynedale Polens?
I don't think so. His older brother Garret Polen was a member of the MAC Champ, 20-6 team in 2004 with Watson/Mullins and that class at Triway. I don't think or know of any Waynedale connections. Mr. Polen is a big Triway supporter, too.
One kid I haven't seen mentioned is Zac McKinney for Fairfield. He has always competed head to head with the kid from Middletown in summer ball. He has the size (6'2) and is the fastest kid on the baseball team. He is best at catcher (a catcher with speed! how dangerous is that!), can pitch, and may be the starting shortstop this year.
Almost forgot, he scored at 29 on the ACT as a freshman! D1 material if i've ever seen it!
Tdog
happygilmore
03-07-08, 11:39 PM
One kid I haven't seen mentioned is Zac McKinney for Fairfield. He has always competed head to head with the kid from Middletown in summer ball. He has the size (6'2) and is the fastest kid on the baseball team. He is best at catcher (a catcher with speed! how dangerous is that!), can pitch, and may be the starting shortstop this year.
Almost forgot, he scored at 29 on the ACT as a freshman! D1 material if i've ever seen it!
Tdog
What summer team did Zac McKinney play for?
Fairfield Chiefs, I think.
happygilmore
03-08-08, 03:15 PM
Fairfield Chiefs, I think.
i think i saw them play last year against the cincy flames they werent very
impressive but they did have a big kid on the mound probably zach and a 29 score on the act as a freshman is unbelievable maybe he should just quit baseball and go for school only
Canes Baseball
03-12-08, 06:24 AM
I belive the top freshman has to be Austin Downing until someone proves it isnt. Hes the complete Package. Hes been the best player in this area for a while now, although there are several other athletes in this class im very impressed with.
I belive the top freshman has to be Austin Downing until someone proves it isnt. Hes the complete Package. Hes been the best player in this area for a while now, although there are several other athletes in this class im very impressed with.
I agree with "He's been the best player in this area for a while" up until 2007 Summer Ball (last season). He's now one of the best. I saw him play last year several times and he still is very good but there is more parity now that a lot of players have caught up to his size and speed. Watch the competition a little closer and you'll know what I mean. There are also players his age that played and are playing up a year, last summer and this summer. Let's face it no one has seen any current freshman play this year yet?? By the way this is not a knock on Austin. I personally know he's a great kid as well as a superb athlete!
Canes Baseball
03-12-08, 11:25 PM
Believe me, i know this age group very well, as I coach a summer team in the same age group as Austins Middie Pride Team. I believe i could name 8-10 kids in the discussion with Austin in the SW Ohio area, but the point is he may have been caught but he has not been passed. So for now until i see someone pass him he gets the nod.
Believe me, i know this age group very well, as I coach a summer team in the same age group as Austins Middie Pride Team. I believe i could name 8-10 kids in the discussion with Austin in the SW Ohio area, but the point is he may have been caught but he has not been passed. So for now until i see someone pass him he gets the nod.
I'm also very familiar with the SWOL National in this age group. I'm also familiar with the age group above him (16u SWOL National this year). There are some players the same age (15) that play up in older National League (16u this year) that are as good. So... that's my point He's not the best anymore "He's now one of the best" freshmen in the area.
happygilmore
03-13-08, 08:10 PM
Believe me, i know this age group very well, as I coach a summer team in the same age group as Austins Middie Pride Team. I believe i could name 8-10 kids in the discussion with Austin in the SW Ohio area, but the point is he may have been caught but he has not been passed. So for now until i see someone pass him he gets the nod.
could you name the 8-10 kids you have heard about because this is a discussion about all the freshman players and Downy is one of the best but there should be mention of other names on here from the sw Ohio area because the 15 under AABC is a very competive league and there are many great players through out it
Whats Moeller's freshmen class like?
happygilmore
03-13-08, 11:04 PM
Whats Moeller's freshmen class like?
i think i heard they had about 50 kids trying out with about 25 or so that had some talent so they should do pretty well and they are also moeller who is always has a good baseball program so they should look pretty good
pgaallstars
03-23-08, 10:32 AM
the top two freshman are mike smith and lionel hill from sycamore
baseballdad44
03-23-08, 11:42 AM
the top freshman there is ryan oltorik
pgaallstars
03-23-08, 03:59 PM
mike smith and lionel hill play up on a 16u aabc national league team lionel is a 6'3 160 lbs cf/p mike is a 6'1 210 lbs rf/1b
thePITman
03-25-08, 06:26 PM
We will all find out sooner or later. I know of one promising Freshman who was clocked at 85mph fast ball over the summer at multiple camps. I have seen him throw in person, and it is no fluke. He throws harder than his team's returning ace/flamethrower, which already has a rocket for an arm (especially from the outfield). I know 85mph is nothing world-beating, but it's pretty impressive for a Freshman to throw like that and throw it and all his other pitches for strikes. He's not primarily a pitcher, though. This player will also end up around the cleanup spot by the end of the season, most likely. He will also be the starting shortstop. He's about 5'10", 160lb. I also must add that his summer team went undefeated last summer, and in his first high school scrimmage seeing real varsity pitching outside (today), he went 1-2 with a HR and 0 errors in the field at shortstop.
baseballdad44
03-25-08, 09:35 PM
you went all through that and didn't say his name?
Sawyer Polen. 85 mph Fastball, and the kid isn't even close to where he will be (physically) in the next three years.
itsgone
03-27-08, 05:59 PM
I also must add that his summer team went undefeated last summer,
Where did he play last summer?
Quick search shows a Sawyer Polen on Triway Exress last summer, 14U AA team. Is that him?
baseballdad44
03-27-08, 06:05 PM
colerain has a good 2nd basemen number 16...looked good
thePITman
03-27-08, 06:18 PM
Where did he play last summer?
Quick search shows a Sawyer Polen on Triway Exress last summer, 14U AA team. Is that him?
Yes, that's one of the teams he played for, I believe. The other would have been the Triway 16U team. I think Triway Express was comprised of a couple kids from outside of Triway as well, including Northwestern and such. It was the 16U team that went undefeated, if I'm not mistaken.
itsgone
03-27-08, 07:08 PM
Yes, that's one of the teams he played for, I believe. The other would have been the Triway 16U team. I think Triway Express was comprised of a couple kids from outside of Triway as well, including Northwestern and such. It was the 16U team that went undefeated, if I'm not mistaken.
Found the 14u team, also a tri-county thunder team, 15u AAA in 2007, nothing on the 16u team. What league/affiliation?
Not being pushy, there's 25-30 kids that age in Ohio that throw mid-80's, less than half that can consistently hit spots and mix in good offspeed, know of most, just keeping track (that age group specifically).
Thanks
thePITman
03-28-08, 12:48 AM
Not being pushy, there's 25-30 kids that age in Ohio that throw mid-80's, less than half that can consistently hit spots and mix in good offspeed, know of most, just keeping track (that age group specifically).
I agree. And like I said, 85mph is nothing world-beating, but is still impressive since he can throw his pitches for strikes. But I also said that he is not primarily a pitcher. He's a true, pure-bred shortstop and will be (might already be) a big time hitter. We shall see. One of my favorite things about him, though, is that he's level-headed, quiet, and one of the most coachable kids I've ever had. I coached him over the summer for basketball and have had him in baseball for a bit. It doesn't matter which coach tells him something, but he says "Okay" and does it that exact way the next time. He listens and learns immediately and never talks back. Very good, humble kid.
tbraves2
03-31-08, 09:24 PM
Baesball fans, a friend told me about a baseball website that is great. Go to COOPERSTOWNDREAMSPARK.COM and take a look. I didnt know the middie pride select team played there in 2005 and won week 5 championship.Their team picture is there and other info. about the championship game. The team still holds the record for the most bunt hits in one wk.. Austin Downing still holds the records for rbi batted in 1wk., most intentional walks offensively by a player in 1 wk.,most runs scored in 1 wk.and most strike outs by a pitcher in one wk.. If you have the time this is a great website to take a look at. All this info is under 12 yr.olds
I was at the Cooperstown tournament and the middie pride as a team was amazing. but it almost wasnt fair to the hitters having to go against Austin. Which could be why they run ruled the other team in the championship game to go undefeated in an 80 team tournament.
I was at the Cooperstown tournament and the middie pride as a team was amazing. but it almost wasnt fair to the hitters having to go against Austin. Which could be why they run ruled the other team in the championship game to go undefeated in an 80 team tournament.
Although that was a very impressive team and performance by Austin, you're talking what; three years ago? Kids really change fast and 3 years is a long time. I know stud players from two years ago who are now just average players and average players that now really stand out. Watch all the freshman this year and you'll be surprised at the parity that exists. Every year all these kids change mentally and physically. You're only as good as your last game; how hard your working now is what counts towards your development and success. I'm not trying to flame you. I'm just saying lets be a little more realistic and use more recent success/performance as a the more accurate gauge for "Top Freshman in the Area".
I was at the Cooperstown tournament and the middie pride as a team was amazing. but it almost wasnt fair to the hitters having to go against Austin. Which could be why they run ruled the other team in the championship game to go undefeated in an 80 team tournament.
Middie Pride didn't even win their league last summer. There is more talent around here than just him/them. Everything evens out when the rest of the area catches up with their growth. Tell me what he is doing 3 years from now.
blu-jay
04-02-08, 03:22 PM
Dayton Area Top Freshman Are ,, Downing,wells,kuzma,dotson,king
Rainer,sullivan,lakes,v-bulter Has Two Good Pitchers ,so Does
Northmount And The Creek Has One, Cannt Rember There Names But When Watch Those Teams Play You Will Know Who They Are.
Speed Racer
04-03-08, 11:09 PM
Everyone is really just naming kids from their respective schools. The best freshamn is Downing, hands down. People say others are catching up. Yeah, CATCHING up, still aren't caught up with his talent. Others that are good are the studs from the Crusaders. Tan kids and the real tall blonde kid (21 I think.) Also when I saw him play the center fielder from the Flames was on fire, no pun intended. The whole Flames team; at this age, is a quality team.
Everyone is really just naming kids from their respective schools. The best freshamn is Downing, hands down. People say others are catching up. Yeah, CATCHING up, still aren't caught up with his talent. Others that are good are the studs from the Crusaders. Tan kids and the real tall blonde kid (21 I think.) Also when I saw him play the center fielder from the Flames was on fire, no pun intended. The whole Flames team; at this age, is a quality team.
Which Flames team are you talking about? The 13's from two years ago, the 14's from last year, or the 15's this year. Each year the team looses at least 75% of it's players and starts all over again? How do you know how "quality" a team is that hasn't even played together in a game? :shrug:
AnUnbiasedOpinion
04-04-08, 09:53 AM
...The best freshamn is Downing, hands down...
Downing was the best "hands down" at 12 and still at 13. At 14 there were others in his class, though none obviously better across the board IMO (and vice versa). Some of those that I believe to be in his class last year have grown and continue to improve their skills as well. I'm sure there are yet others that will grow and improve their baseball skills.
Who, if anyone, is best hands down freshman this year remains to be seen...
goblue93
04-07-08, 10:08 AM
Was Downing moved up or is he playing freshman ball?
AnUnbiasedOpinion
04-07-08, 10:21 AM
Was Downing moved up or is he playing freshman ball?
I've seen him listed in Middletown box scores in the Enquirer online. Never any question in my mind that he should play varsity as a freshman. I saw a Schwarber listed in one of the boxscores also. Is he another freshman that played for the Middie Pride? Any other freshman for the Middies so far this year?
goblue93
04-07-08, 10:26 AM
I've seen him listed in Middletown box scores in the Enquirer online. Never any question in my mind that he should play varsity as a freshman. I saw a Schwarber listed in one of the boxscores also. Is he another freshman that played for the Middie Pride? Any other freshman for the Middies so far this year?
I haven't heard anything about the Middletown freshman team this year. I'm assuming if they had talent they were probably moved up.
YouWishYouKnew11
04-08-08, 05:54 PM
who are the top freashman you know?
im gonna wait two years and revisit this topic. when the hamilton kids will be freshman
baseballislife054
04-08-08, 08:53 PM
the top two freshman are mike smith and lionel hill from sycamore
that statement is incorrect and everyone i've talked to has agreed that the kid needs an attitude adjust while also needing to improve on his all around game.
lionel hill on the other hand is an outstanding athlete that is contributing on the JV level at sycamore.
thePITman
04-20-08, 12:31 AM
So how are all these freshmen doing so far this varsity season?
starkcountybball11
04-21-08, 09:35 PM
Although I'm not a Triway fan at all, Iv'e seen Sawyer Polen play and he is a very good shortstop. I saw him pitch an inning or two and he throws some heat but had a little trouble locating but that will definitly come over time.Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been hearing some stuff that he went to a camp at Clemson as an 8th grader and was the best player at the camp. Kid seemed to be a pretty good basketball player as well. Is very athletic and strong. I dont know if he plays football but I imagine he does and would probably be good at that also with his build. Seems to be a classy young man and a great athlete.
starkcountybball11
04-21-08, 09:39 PM
[QUOTE= lionel hill on the other hand is an outstanding athlete that is contributing on the JV level at sycamore.[/QUOTE]
I dont really know anything about either of these kids, but if you are going to make a statement that says that these kids are the two best freshman then dont you think that they should be starting varsity? just a thought
thePITman
04-21-08, 10:11 PM
Although I'm not a Triway fan at all, Iv'e seen Sawyer Polen play and he is a very good shortstop. I saw him pitch an inning or two and he throws some heat but had a little trouble locating but that will definitly come over time.Correct me if I'm wrong but I've been hearing some stuff that he went to a camp at Clemson as an 8th grader and was the best player at the camp. Kid seemed to be a pretty good basketball player as well. Is very athletic and strong. I dont know if he plays football but I imagine he does and would probably be good at that also with his build. Seems to be a classy young man and a great athlete.
Everything in your post is correct. His location when pitching is getting better. He is a very good shortstop, a true shortstop instead of an athlete put into that position. All the Clemson stories are true. He is good at basketball and got varsity time (I'm not sure if he lettered or not, I'm guessing he did). He also played varsity and some JV football. It was not fair to watch him play Freshman football during the preseason scrimmages. He will be a RB and OLB in football and is a #3 in basketball. He is definitely a very well rounded individual. He is quiet yet energetic, humble yet confident, and most of all coachable. Kids like him with all the talent and sport-specific skill in the world are not always coachable, but he is one of the most coachable kids I've seen.
bluedevilplaya16
04-23-08, 09:28 PM
Has anyone heard of Tyler Helfferich, he is one of the top varsity pitchers for Fenwick. I know that Fenwick isn't really a big school but they lost to LaSalle 3-0 and he pitched 5 innings. He also pitched against Roger Bacon, he was called on to come in with the bases loaded and one out in the 3rd. He got them out of the inning in 2 pitches and no runs. I heard that he may be playing with the 17-18 year old diamondstars or the 16 year old Cincinnati Stix. Anyone heard of him and any comments?
baseballislife054
04-24-08, 04:40 PM
I dont really know anything about either of these kids, but if you are going to make a statement that says that these kids are the two best freshman then dont you think that they should be starting varsity? just a thought
lionel is a gifted athlete, but i never said he were was one of the best in the area. all i said was that he was a good player that was contributing to the jv team. the other kid i was referring to was trying to pass himself off as a stud athlete who barely made the freshman baseball team at sycamore. i was not counting him as one of the top players at all.
Centerville freshman beat Wayne tonight 12-2, improving to 8-0.
Springboro frosh are 11-3.
Centerville freshman are now 11-0 with 7 run ruled games
Chief Dad
05-05-08, 07:53 AM
Faifield Freshmen are 14-4 overall, 11-3 in the GMC, which I believe puts them 1st in the league
Chief Dad
05-05-08, 08:00 AM
Correction, the Fairfiled Freshmen are 12-3 in the GMC, with two of those losses by 1 run. They are currently on an 11 game winning streak, including a 13-4 win over St. X.
SWO_Sports
05-05-08, 09:20 AM
Faifield Freshmen are 14-4 overall, 11-3 in the GMC, which I believe puts them 1st in the league
I think Mason is 12-3 also. They split with Fairfield.
natisports09
05-05-08, 09:31 AM
the kid from Fenwick is the real deal
Canes Baseball
05-07-08, 09:15 PM
Dayton Area Top Freshman Are ,, Downing,wells,kuzma,dotson,king
Rainer,sullivan,lakes,v-bulter Has Two Good Pitchers ,so Does
Northmount And The Creek Has One, Cannt Rember There Names But When Watch Those Teams Play You Will Know Who They Are.
That post was dead on for Dayton area players, as i have coached here sense i this age group was 10. But i would add Nick McGill, Kyle Schwarber, Jake Jarbo, Ian Huss, and Taylor Neal. Taylor is hitting 463 on varisty for national trail and was listen in DDN Varsity average leaders.
baseballdad44
05-07-08, 09:25 PM
jus watched the bethal vs. loveland game...loveland 2,3,9 hitters loooked good
68mustang
05-08-08, 12:33 AM
I think you may have spoken to soon. The Fairfield Freshmen lost to Oak Hills on Monday 7-5. They will ned some help from Sycamore (Mason's opponent) if they want to win the league.
I think you may have spoken to soon. The Fairfield Freshmen lost to Oak Hills on Monday 7-5. They will ned some help from Sycamore (Mason's opponent) if they want to win the league.
Mason's game was rained out today. Hopefully it will be played Friday. All Mason freshman has to do is beat Sycamore and they win the GMC!! Of course Fairfield has to beat Oak Hills either way.
Chief Dad
05-08-08, 07:45 AM
The GMC Freshmen tournament schedule came out, and Fairfield is the #1 seed, Mason #2.
68mustang
05-08-08, 10:10 AM
They are the number one seed but they were SEEDED last week before Oak Hills (#3 Seed) had a chance to play Fairfield the second time. Does anyone know if Mason beat Sycamore on Monday? One game separated the three teams.
They are the number one seed but they were SEEDED last week before Oak Hills (#3 Seed) had a chance to play Fairfield the second time. Does anyone know if Mason beat Sycamore on Monday? One game separated the three teams.
Yes Mason freshman beat Sycamore on Monday and Hamilton on Tuesday.
68mustang you are correct about the seeding thing. It was just a snap shot of the standings at the time the brackets were put together sometime last week.
What is Oak hills record and have both Fairfield/Oak Hills played all their games?
Chief Dad
05-08-08, 11:13 AM
Fairfield and Oak Hills were supposed to play their final game last night, but were rained out. They are supposed to make it up tonight, but that seems unlikely also.
68mustang
05-08-08, 11:32 AM
Oak Hills still has to play Middletown and Fairfield. Oak Hills will play @ Middletown on Friday. I dought the Oak Hills-Fairfield game will be played with the weather
Fairfield and Oak Hills were supposed to play their final game last night, but were rained out. They are supposed to make it up tonight, but that seems unlikely also.
Same thing for Mason. They still have one game left with Sycamore. Don't know when or if it will be played. I doubt any of these games will be played today or tomorrow. The Sycamore field and the Oak Hills middle school field don't look like they drain very well. Anyway good luck to all three teams and let's all keep are fingers crossed that we can at least get the tournament in!
One more thing. I want to say it was a pleasure to play both these teams (Fairfield and Oak Hills) both are great teams, have great sportsmanship, and a lot of class. I think we will see some great baseball in the next few years by all three of these freshman teams. In fact I thing the GMC as a whole will be a highly competitive league during this period.
See you this weekend!
OakHills_Scots11
05-08-08, 11:52 PM
anyone to break down the upcoming gmc freshman tourney. team with the best shot at winning? this should be a great weekend of baseball.
bobcat14
05-09-08, 01:52 PM
Not sure if any has mentioned him yet....but Norwayne has a freshman that is right up there this year in stats in WCAL.....Jac Strickland.......i have watched this boy grow up and he can play some ball.....has anybody else heard of him if so any updates on him......
also is there anywhere on the web where you can find stats for this years baseball teams???????
Not sure if any has mentioned him yet....but Norwayne has a freshman that is right up there this year in stats in WCAL.....Jac Strickland.......i have watched this boy grow up and he can play some ball.....has anybody else heard of him if so any updates on him......
also is there anywhere on the web where you can find stats for this years baseball teams???????
Forget about getting info about Freshman/JV sports! At best you can go to each teams Website and try to piece it together, but you won't get to far.
Stephen Holland from Edgewood......he was clocked throwing 83 as a freshman.
thePITman
05-09-08, 03:13 PM
Triway Freshman Sawyer Polen has hit in the #3 spot all year and been the starting shortstop on the PAC-7 Champs varsity team. He is currently batting .380 (27/71), with 3 HR, 31 RBI (leads Daily Record area [Wayne, Holmes counties]), 32 RS (2nd in Daily Record area, only to the leadoff hitter in the Triway lineup who has 34), and 11 SB. He also has a very, very good BB:K ratio.
Triway Freshman Sawyer Polen has hit in the #3 spot all year and been the starting shortstop on the PAC-7 Champs varsity team. He is currently batting .380 (27/71), with 3 HR, 31 RBI (leads Daily Record area), 32 RS (2nd in Daily Record area, only to the leadoff hitter in the Triway lineup who has 34), and 11 SB. He also has a very, very good BB:K ratio.
Yep, he is the real deal.
Chief Dad
05-09-08, 04:35 PM
Zack McKinney from Fairfield is batting around .460, has been the #3 hitter almost all season, has 2 homeruns and 25 RBI's (he missed 2 grand slams by about 3 feet). Also pitches, catches and plays first base. He's about 6'-2", 180 pounds.
Also, Ryan Riga from Fairfield is batting around .396 and is probably the best center fielder I've ever seen. He tracks the ball with the best of them and runs like a deer.
thePITman
05-09-08, 08:00 PM
Yep, he is the real deal.
Tonight he went 1-2 with a solo HR, 2 RBI's, 2 runs scored, and a HP. That brings him to .384 (28-73), 4 HR, 33 RBI, 34 RS.
bluedevilplaya16
05-11-08, 03:03 PM
the kid from Fenwick is the real deal
Helfferich led Fenwick to a 6-5 win over Alter for the GCL North, he came in to pitch in the 3rd with 1 out and pitched the rest of the game giving up 1 run.
fivebuckeyes
05-11-08, 05:15 PM
is the kid from fenwick on the 16u kinect?
bluedevilplaya16
05-11-08, 05:38 PM
No he's on the 17-18u Diamondstars so he's legit.
fivebuckeyes
05-11-08, 10:28 PM
wow
Dayton Area Top Freshman Are ,, Downing,wells,kuzma,dotson,king
Rainer,sullivan,lakes
That is the Patterson Park Canes plus Kuzma and Sullivan
Chief Dad
05-12-08, 07:51 AM
Fairfield beat Colerain 10-4 on Saturday in the second round of the GMC tournament. They will play Lakota East on Tuesday.
Nolan Maddy pitched a great game for the Indians, with Taylor Price coming in for relief. Offense was led by Zack Mckinney, who was 3-4 with 3 RBI's.
fivebuckeyes
05-12-08, 07:56 PM
is Zane Pitzer on the Canes as well?
is Zane Pitzer on the Canes as well?
Not sure about him, Kuzma is on Kinect (could've been on the Canes), Sullivan is on the Patterson Park Raiders.
bluedevilplaya16
05-13-08, 08:00 PM
Helfferich is pitching in the second game of the D3 tourney for Fenwick against Carlise.
SWMCinci
05-13-08, 09:12 PM
The Mason Comets freshman team is in the GMC finals after a win tonight (5-2) over Sycamore.
The Mason Comets freshman team is in the GMC finals after a win tonight (5-2) over Sycamore.
That win also puts them in first place in the GMC!!
Canes Baseball
05-13-08, 11:29 PM
Zane Pitzer plays for the dayton hustle
Ahhhorsepoo
05-15-08, 11:15 AM
anyone to break down the upcoming gmc freshman tourney. team with the best shot at winning? this should be a great weekend of baseball.
unfortunately the GMC tourney 2nd day was rained out over mothers day weekend.. the mason v princeton game had way too many errors for both of these teams, but ultimately came down to a walkoff hit.. mason won 3-2
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unfortunately the GMC tourney 2nd day was rained out over mothers day weekend.. the mason v princeton game had way too many errors for both of these teams, but ultimately came down to a walkoff hit.. mason won 3-2[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by SWMCinci
The Mason Comets freshman team is in the GMC finals after a win tonight (5-2) over Sycamore.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by HWCUSA
That win also puts them in first place in the GMC!![/QUOTE]
Mason is now in the GMC finals Saturday 17-May-08 1:30pm @Mason HS Varsity Field. They play the winner of the Fairfield vs Lakota East semofinals Saturday 17-May-08 11:00am @Mason HS Varsity Field.
Chief Dad
05-16-08, 03:13 PM
I just heard they have cancelled the remainder of the Freshmen GMC Tournament, which I believe awards 1st place to Fairfield, since they were the number 1 seed. Congrats to the Fairfield Freshmen team on a great season!!! :Party:
I don't believe it matters that Mason made it to the finals, if the tournament is cancelled, the number 1 seeded team takes first place. Is this everyone's understanding?
I just heard they have cancelled the remainder of the Freshmen GMC Tournament, which I believe awards 1st place to Fairfield, since they were the number 1 seed. Congrats to the Fairfield Freshmen team on a great season!!! :Party:
I don't believe it matters that Mason made it to the finals, if the tournament is cancelled, the number 1 seeded team takes first place. Is this everyone's understanding?
Being 1 seed means nothing except at the time the tournament brackets were put together Fairfield was in first place, but the regular season was not over at that time... Since the brackets were put together Fairfield lost a league game to Oak Hills. Mason has won their remaining games. So Mason and Fairfield share the GMC League Championship. :Party:
Also technically Mason won more games. They won their semi-final game. Fairfield did not play their semi-final game against Lakota East. So Mason would have only had to win one more game to win the GMC Tournament. Fairfield would have to win two more games to win it. So really no one won the tournament but if you had to say someone did it would have to be Mason (since they went further than Lakota East and Fairfield). :clap:
I don't know where you came up with your logic above, but it's not correct. :Ohno:
AnUnbiasedOpinion
05-16-08, 04:36 PM
I just heard they have cancelled the remainder of the Freshmen GMC Tournament, which I believe awards 1st place to Fairfield, since they were the number 1 seed. Congrats to the Fairfield Freshmen team on a great season!!! :Party:
I don't believe it matters that Mason made it to the finals, if the tournament is cancelled, the number 1 seeded team takes first place. Is this everyone's understanding?
I would say there is a regular season champ (don't know who that was, hopefully it was Fairfield if they earned the #1 seed) and no tournament champ. Seed is for just that - seeding. Playing an extra game shouldn't mean anything either. If the conference didn't bother to set up any tie-breakers (why would they - it should be earned on the field or end in a tie if that's not possible), then it sounds like the tournament is a tie amongst any remaining teams.
I would say there is a regular season champ (don't know who that was, hopefully it was Fairfield if they earned the #1 seed) and no tournament champ. Seed is for just that - seeding. Playing an extra game shouldn't mean anything either. If the conference didn't bother to set up any tie-breakers (why would they - it should be earned on the field or end in a tie if that's not possible), then it sounds like the tournament is a tie amongst any remaining teams.
Read my last post and that's the way it is!!
There is no winner in the tournament since it was not completed. Even though Mason had a better record in the tournament and had more wins against GMC teams.
The regular season was not over when the tournament brackets are created. It's just a snap shot of the standings at that point in the season.
After all league games are played that's when the winner of a league is determined. Fairfield lost a regular season game before the tournament started and Mason won their remaining season games. Both teams had 14-4 records in the regular season. Both split with each other in the regular season. So they are Co-Champs.
SWMCinci
05-16-08, 07:08 PM
I don't believe it matters that Mason made it to the finals, if the tournament is cancelled, the number 1 seeded team takes first place. Is this everyone's understanding?
HWCUSA is correct, the regular season ended in a tie between Mason and Fairfield - so they will be co-champs. :wallbang:
If it were up to me....... I'd break the tied by how far they went in the tournament. :stirthepot:
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If it were up to me....... I'd break the tied by how far they went in the tournament. :stirthepot:[/QUOTE]
Me Too!! :thumb:
Chief Dad
05-19-08, 07:37 AM
I guess if it's a tie between Mason and Fairfield, it would still go to Fairfield because of their heads-up comparison. Game 1, Mason wins 9-6, Game 2, Fairfield wins 8-2, so if you go by runs allowed, Fairfield wins 11-14. This is how most ties are decided, at least in all the SWOL tournaments we've played in.
AnUnbiasedOpinion
05-19-08, 08:35 AM
... if you go by runs allowed, Fairfield wins 11-14. This is how most ties are decided, at least in all the SWOL tournaments we've played in.
But those criteria are specified in advance. Teams would play differently if those criteria were in place. It's a tie and a shame that the tournament didn't play out. The players will get plenty of times to play it out for the next 3 seasons.
Chief Dad
05-19-08, 09:01 AM
I realize this was not a SWOL tournament, I was merely pointing out that in probably any head to head comparison, Fairfield wins. Maybe the people who seeded the teams in the tournament took all this into account, otherwise, how does Fairfield get the #1 seed? If they did, then it was not just a "snapshot", as was mentioned earlier, but an actual true seeding.
In any case, congrats to both teams on a great year.
AnUnbiasedOpinion
05-19-08, 09:22 AM
I realize this was not a SWOL tournament, I was merely pointing out that in probably any head to head comparison, Fairfield wins. Maybe the people who seeded the teams in the tournament took all this into account, otherwise, how does Fairfield get the #1 seed? If they did, then it was not just a "snapshot", as was mentioned earlier, but an actual true seeding.
In any case, congrats to both teams on a great year.
An earlier poster indicated Fairfield Freshmen got top seed since they were #1 in the league at that time (they then lost while Mason won their remaining games to finish in the tie).
There is no tiebreaker. Congrats to Fairfield and Mason and good luck to the boys the next 3 years.
I realize this was not a SWOL tournament, I was merely pointing out that in probably any head to head comparison, Fairfield wins. Maybe the people who seeded the teams in the tournament took all this into account, otherwise, how does Fairfield get the #1 seed? If they did, then it was not just a "snapshot", as was mentioned earlier, but an actual true seeding.
In any case, congrats to both teams on a great year.
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But those criteria are specified in advance. Teams would play differently if those criteria were in place. It's a tie and a shame that the tournament didn't play out. The players will get plenty of times to play it out for the next 3 seasons.
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Originally Posted by AnUnbiasedOpinion
An earlier poster indicated Fairfield Freshmen got top seed since they were #1 in the league at that time (they then lost while Mason won their remaining games to finish in the tie).
There is no tiebreaker. Congrats to Fairfield and Mason and good luck to the boys the next 3 years.
Since your quoting SWOL rules; if a tournament is canceled (not completed) then the team that went the furthest in the tournament would be the winner.
So "really no one won the tournament but if you had to say someone did it would have to be Mason (since they went further than Lakota East and Fairfield)."
But again you play by the rules that are set forth for the league you play in!
So Mason and Fairfield are Co Champions in the GMC period! :clap:
Chief Dad
05-19-08, 03:13 PM
Thanks for the input. As I stated in my first post, I wasn't sure how it would all work out, but what you said makes sense. Again, congrats to both Fairfield and Mason on a great season.
thePITman
05-19-08, 06:13 PM
Triway's Sawyer Polen finished off his Freshman season today going 3-4 with 2 doubles against CCC's senior pitcher, McCoury, that threw a complete game win, 10 K's, and consistently clocked between 86-89mph per a scout. It was nice to see that he can hit the good pitchers just like he can all the others. I can get his complete game stats up here soon. He definitely had a successful varsity season for us. :)
bluedevilplaya16
05-19-08, 07:50 PM
Falcons beat Carlisle 12-11 Saturday to advance in the DIII tourney, Helfferich started and went 4 2/3 giving up 4 runs but got the no decision because the Falcons lost the lead in the 6th. He will probably get the start again on Saturday against Vesialles at Centerville.
bluedevilplaya16
05-24-08, 10:45 PM
Helfferich threw 6 shutout innings today against versailles in a 7-1 win. He threw 73 pitches and gave up only 4 hits and no walks.
ohiosports21
05-25-08, 01:21 PM
The best freshmen in summit county have to be Oliver Hildebrandnt(6'4 180)STVM, Andrew Bonnett(5'11 160)Tallmadge, and Anthony Cicione(5'10 150)STVM. All of them played varsity as a freshmen. Oliver Hildebradnt throws a baseball close the 80 and this kid is only a freshmen and has a real good stick. Andrew Bonnett and Anthony Cicione are kind of the same player. Both great out feilders. Both with rocket arms. I'm telling you these kids can throw a baseball from miles away. They both almost hit .600 this year on there teams. Look out for these kids in the upcoming years.Oliver Hildebrandt plays for the Brownlees Lookouts. Andrew Bonnett plays for the Boys of Summer and Anthony Cicione plays for the Ohio Thunder Blue.
diamondrules08
05-26-08, 09:41 AM
first off, playing varisty as a freshman, in most cases, more about a weak high school team than a very talented freshman. Big difference too in dressing varsity and actually playing varsity on a regular basis. st v very weak team this year.
Hildebrandt is only one of three mentioned that actually contributed at varsity level. batting .600 was certainly not at varsity level, and nobody really cares about a jv batting average (stats all over the place in high school especially at a jv or freshman level)
summer ball is where it is at. lets watch how the class of 2011 in northeast ohio plays over the summer in the big tournaments and in the diamond league and then we wil see who in the class of 2011 are actually considered the top freshman in the area.
ohiosports21
05-26-08, 12:41 PM
first off, playing varisty as a freshman, in most cases, more about a weak high school team than a very talented freshman. Big difference too in dressing varsity and actually playing varsity on a regular basis. st v very weak team this year.
Hildebrandt is only one of three mentioned that actually contributed at varsity level. batting .600 was certainly not at varsity level, and nobody really cares about a jv batting average (stats all over the place in high school especially at a jv or freshman level)
summer ball is where it is at. lets watch how the class of 2011 in northeast ohio plays over the summer in the big tournaments and in the diamond league and then we wil see who in the class of 2011 are actually considered the top freshman in the area.
I agree with you on all that I was just stating on who i thought the top players in the area. St.v was very weak but Tallmadge was not so remember that. St.v had the talent to do some stuff but hustle and leadership hurt them this year. Summer ball is where its at. Just look out for these kids names they are real tough
StarstoShine
05-28-08, 01:49 AM
STVM is primarly a Football Power that draws top Football Players that play multiple sports such as Baseball. Although the Irish were down in 2008 they
have some talent and depth in the Sophmore and Freshman Classes. Leading the Freshman are P/1B Oliver Hildebrandnt(6'4 180) , P/OF Neal Edwards (6-2 180)SS/OF Anthony Cicione(5'10 150) 3B/P Sonny Helmke, Josh Stedman (6-1 220). The Sophmore Class offers, C. Jon Adams, P. Jack Uecker and Joe Chiarappa. STVM will bounce back in 2009.
TheBenchwarmer
05-28-08, 09:27 AM
Don't know if anyone said this, but Kevin Brinkman has a very bright future!!
blu-jay
05-28-08, 04:10 PM
That is the Patterson Park Canes plus Kuzma and Sullivan
wrong not all of those kids play for the canes, dotson plays for kinect ,rainer
is not playing ,my bother told me hes playing basketball ,hes grown 2 inches
since the start of high school baseball season and the downing kid plays for the middies,, some of the others play for centerville , but iam sure that the canes would like to have all of them.
ohiosports21
05-30-08, 05:00 PM
I predict the irish to win their district next year. They are solid. Pitching is going to be very good. The ace will be Hildebrant(So.). Sam Tercaso is going to be their number two. Nick Fleming and Jack Ucker sharing the 3 spot. I predict the line up will be Nick Pagni 3rd(Sr.), Sam Tercaso SS(Sr.), Joe Chiarappa 2nd(Jr.), Nick Fleming 1st(Sr.), Micheal Denke Rf(Sr.), Nick Petris Cf(Sr.), Anthony Cicione Lf(So.), John Adams C(Jr.) Very strong line up from top to bottom wont be surprised to see them go to States. Go Irish!
bballnutz
05-30-08, 09:43 PM
I predict the irish to win their district next year. They are solid. Pitching is going to be very good. The ace will be Hildebrant(So.). Sam Tercaso is going to be their number two. Nick Fleming and Jack Ucker sharing the 3 spot. I predict the line up will be Nick Pagni 3rd(Sr.), Sam Tercaso SS(Sr.), Joe Chiarappa 2nd(Jr.), Nick Fleming 1st(Sr.), Micheal Denke Rf(Sr.), Nick Petris Cf(Sr.), Anthony Cicione Lf(So.), John Adams C(Jr.) Very strong line up from top to bottom wont be surprised to see them go to States. Go Irish!
Dude, what are you smoking? Hildebrand played for Brownlees 2nd team last year. Brownlee's first team lit him up. He got Varsity playing time this year because the St.VM program is so weak that they were grabbing players from all levels in hopes that they would find somebody who could play. Trecaso is a marginal player. His performance at the Freedom Classic Showcase last year was worthy of a D-III prospect and no more. His velocity is high 70's/low 80's. Marginal speed. He gets some attention because his dad spends a lot of time hyping him. Walsh lit him him up like a Christmas tree this year. Dehnke (good athete, no finesse or polish), Cicione (very weak) and Petrus (hard working, but not athletic enough) are all marginal non-impact players. St. VM will not win the District next year. They will win one game in the tournament then be disposed of by one of the perennial powers.
ohiosports21
05-31-08, 02:33 PM
No your wrong St.V will win districts and make a run. Say all you must. But just remember who said it first. They have a lot of depth. The freshmen class is loaded and so is 2012. They will good for awhile.
GoTribe06
06-01-08, 08:12 PM
ohiosports21, everything you just said is absolutely ridiculous.. i will put anythign on it that stvm doesnt win districts next year.. so your saying that walsh jesuit, who returns 7 of 9 starters next year and their ace pitcher and are on their way to the state final four this year, will lose to stvm who didnt even make it to the district final four this year? or they will beat field who lost 1-0 to walsh or tallmadge who went 24-4 this year and lost 3-0 to walsh and loses 2 seniors? you dont know much about baseball if you think these mediocre freshman will make an impact on the upcoming year.... just give it up and understand that right now, stvm is in an incredibly tough district and their average team does not stand a chance against any of the perennial powers of the district (field, tallmadge, walsh, hoban)
OakHills_Scots11
06-01-08, 11:09 PM
In your opinion who is the gmc freshman mvp?
ohiosports21
06-03-08, 10:17 PM
If Hildebrandt is that bad how come he got Conference Freshmen of the year? St.V's weakness was in the outfeild and senior leadership. Cicione is a real good outfeilder can get everything covers major ground never drops anything. If Tercaso doesnt pick up his effort they will take him out of shortstop and put a sophmore or a junior to fill it. St.v is solid from top to bottom. Feild is not a power house as bad as St.V was this year im pretty sure St.v beat them pretty badly. St.V was with Walsh and Tallmadge til the outfield made some bad plays and the flood gates flew right open. These kids are seriously loaded. From top to bottom.
diamondrules08
06-03-08, 10:43 PM
Pretty sure you are the Cicone kid posting about yourself here, but to say that your team is going to be loaded top to bottom is ridiculous...not only was your varsity team weak, so was your jv and freshman teams...as a matter of fact, name any decent team that any of your teams beat...
ohiosports21
06-03-08, 10:48 PM
No just a parent from st.v. My son doesnt even play baseball but we went to alot of the games. I am just letting you know whose good and whose bad.
Pretty sure you are the Cicone kid posting about yourself here, but to say that your team is going to be loaded top to bottom is ridiculous...not only was your varsity team weak, so was your jv and freshman teams...as a matter of fact, name any decent team that any of your teams beat...
No guessing at who posters are. The outing of posters is against Yappi rules.
BuckNut2006
06-04-08, 01:26 AM
As a STVM fan, I too believe STVM has a LONG way to go before they can win the district. They are in a very tough district. Yet 2008 was an unusually weak team. Typically they are above-average and do knock off a good team now and again. Just ask Walsh 2006 and 2007.
Their record was poor, but look who they played. Other than Walsh, STVM may have had one of the toughest schedules in the area: Played Walsh, Hoban, Bennie, St Ed, St I, NDCL. All were very good this year and a few are still playing.
Stars is correct when he says STVM is primarily a football power, whose football players play other sports, unlike a team such as Walsh who's team is primarily made up of true baseball players. (Although Ontko is primarily a football player).
Regarding Hildebrandt, who is primarily a basketball player. He will be a 3-sport athlete at STVM. He is a great athlete and baseball may be his third-best sport. Ollie is on track to be a basketball star and may have a shot at being STVM's starting QB.
Jack Uechre's best sport...golf. Went to state his soph year. Terrific golf swing and hits the ball a ton.
STVM's freshman class and incoming freshman class is chocked-full of athletes. Look for them to rebuild and become a very good baseball team in the next 2 or 3 years.
GoTribe06
06-04-08, 07:19 AM
If Hildebrandt is that bad how come he got Conference Freshmen of the year? St.V's weakness was in the outfeild and senior leadership. Cicione is a real good outfeilder can get everything covers major ground never drops anything. If Tercaso doesnt pick up his effort they will take him out of shortstop and put a sophmore or a junior to fill it. St.v is solid from top to bottom. Feild is not a power house as bad as St.V was this year im pretty sure St.v beat them pretty badly. St.V was with Walsh and Tallmadge til the outfield made some bad plays and the flood gates flew right open. These kids are seriously loaded. From top to bottom.
I apologize i didnt know that walsh beating st v 10-0 was "playing with" Walsh. And field was just saving up for districts against stvm they are clearly a better team.
BuckNut2006
06-04-08, 11:28 AM
I apologize i didnt know that walsh beating st v 10-0 was "playing with" Walsh. And field was just saving up for districts against stvm they are clearly a better team.
STVM was down this year. No doubt about it. For whatever reason, they just didn't get the talent out for the team this year. Hoban seems to be getting some of the better players. Playing a brutal schedule doesn't help.
StarstoShine
06-07-08, 07:01 PM
STVM will be ok in baseball as the Freshman and Sophmores class have some
Talent, Size and Strength. They will improve with experience and work on
Fundamentals. STVM will remain a Football and Basketball Force.....trust me on that one.
bluedevilplaya16
07-31-08, 07:43 PM
Who do you think the GCL freshmen mvp is this year?
BigMan11
10-16-08, 02:32 PM
Has to be someone from Moeller
Prolly Alex Barlow or Ryan Oltorik
Barlow set the Frosh hit record
Oltorik hit 3 HR and led the team in RBI
YouWishYouKnew11
10-19-08, 04:08 PM
In your opinion who is the gmc freshman mvp?
im pretty sure kyle Cotkamp will be the freshman MVP in the GMC. i would be surprised if he doesnt play varsity at some point an have a major impact both offensively an on the mound.
slappy32
10-22-08, 03:20 PM
Which Flames team are you talking about? The 13's from two years ago, the 14's from last year, or the 15's this year. Each year the team looses at least 75% of it's players and starts all over again? How do you know how "quality" a team is that hasn't even played together in a game? :shrug:
FYI...Last years 14yr old team has at least 90% coming back and it's been like this for several past years.
baseball818
10-24-08, 06:32 PM
Jeff Edwards- jackson
Brad Fromen- Jackson
Mike Cooperider-jackson
Aroan Hoffmen- Jackson
good 4 freshman who should make JV NO doubt !!!!!!!
Kemp from Lake should see some varsity time, maybe a lot on the mound.
Wagler from Lake Center needs to put on some pounds but looks like he has some potential.
Perron from Strongsville (Walsh) is very good. Great hitter and can play any position
Coates from Canfield, great hitter and outfielder.
Tony Mehle from Canfield. Tough competitor on the mound.
Linder from Tallmadge, big strong kid with a live arm.
im pretty sure kyle Cotkamp will be the freshman MVP in the GMC. i would be surprised if he doesnt play varsity at some point an have a major impact both offensively an on the mound.
Wow, didn't know they had an award for the "freshman MVP in the GMC". Who got that award last year?
YouWishYouKnew11
10-28-08, 11:24 AM
Wow, didn't know they had an award for the "freshman MVP in the GMC". Who got that award last year?
there isnt, i think it was more of a question that if there was an award for it, who do you think would win. or in other words who will be the best freshman player in the GMC. and i was just answering, that i think Kyle will be one of if not the best freshman player in the GMC.
reynmom2010
10-30-08, 12:34 PM
We have two freshman coming on board this year (Reynoldsburg) who should make an immediate impact. Nick Clagg RHP and SS. Throws in the mid 80's with great control and wicked off speed stuff. Jeff Murray, RHP, 3rd & 1st. Throws in the upper 70's and strong as an ox.
warriorbaseball9
11-07-08, 03:07 PM
ryan lefevers from moeller is going to be a name that people will see in the future. I've played with him for 5 years and he is a great player.
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