Cedar_Point
Well-known member
This is the correct answer
Divisional placements and Regional Assignments to be released today for Boys Hoops
- Thread starter mr_nov
- Start date
Would they force the top enrollment D3 teams to move up to D2 (assume 2 D2 went up to D1) or would they leave the D2 bracket at 62 teams then?
EHS 2001
Moderator
D2 would be 62. A school moving to D1 doesn’t impact another school’s division.
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
Well-known member
Embarrassing for who? The kids that are going to college for free to play the game they love?
Lima Senior is mid-pack in D2 with regard to enrollment.....and 150 boys below the biggest D2 teams. Don't see them moving up
D1 bracket will have 67. If the option passes, D1 can be added to but no teams will drop from D1 is what I was told.
Nope, the coaches and administrators that built super teams.......to win a state championship in the smallest division in Ohio. This was a moot point up until this year because they could only play in D4. Now, presumably, they have a choice of what to do with their super team.
Cedar_Point
Well-known member
Nobody will be forced to move up a division. If you want to move up to the D1 they will just add to that bracket and subtract from the one you’re moving from
They built it to win titles.
I agree, but their legacy in Ohio history will be they built a super team and chose to play in one of the lowest divisions instead of being they built a super team and (maybe) won a D1 state championship. Wouldn't you choose the latter? It shuts up everyone that complains about them.
CleveHoopFan08
Active member
They/the coach probably don't even think that deep to be honest. Winning state titles will just help them get kids to keep winning state titles. My guess, and its just a guess, is that coach wants to surpass the "so called best coach" in Ohio and some view that as Joyce. So maybe thats his goal? If so, he isn't moving up.
This may be totally outside the norm, but I have no idea what the coach's name is. I'm in SWO and know Joyce II/Flannery/Joyce III/Cato/Casey because they are well-respected coaches across the state. I've never heard anyone mention RH as a great coach
Dayride
Well-known member
I would venture a guess that at least 90% of their fans have no idea how Divisions are made up and that a team can move up. Most probably don't care on top of that. Coach doesn't have to please the complainers just the locals.
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
Well-known member
Coach doesn’t have to please anyone, lol. Nor does any other coach. And for the record, Rogers is well respected in basketball circles and by college coaches that recruit his student athletes. He’s also raising an excellent young man who’s a really good athlete in his own right, kid is going to have a great season at WR.
I somewhat disagree. The legacy will show they won consecutive titles. By the time it's there legacy nobody will care or few will remember how it happened. Same with all the others who have won titles over the last 40 years with athletes that did not attend the same school from elementary to graduation.
Can't speak for everyone but the way North College Hill and Deer Park are remembered in coaching circles here is not very positive, I guess time will tell if that changes
CleveHoopFan08
Active member
I meant the RH's coach may have aspirations of surpassing Joyce's number of state titles.
I was speaking more about across the state as in the OHSAA history books for multiple titles. Both of those schools were more of a local scandal and others areas of the state were not that vocal.
Joyce and Flannery have been accused for years of doing the same thing RH is doing but yet you feel they are respected.
Probably by few
Per the OHSAA:
The passage of Issue 1B now allows schools to request to move up to Division I on a sport-by-sport basis for the upcoming season in that sport. Schools will be sent a memo Thursday afternoon with details of the request process, which has a June 3 deadline for the upcoming fall and winter seasons. The deadline for 2025 spring sports will be set later. Once the OHSAA knows how many schools request to move up to Division I, the OHSAA will determine changes are needed to the previously announced divisional breakdowns and tournament representation.
"We are all interested to see how many schools request to move up to Division I," OHSAA Executive Director Doug Ute said. "With the expanded divisions in several sports, our goal is to have as close to 64 schools as possible in Divisions I and II, so we may have some adjusting to do in some sports if several Division II schools make the request to Division I. We know that June 3 is a quick turnaround for our schools, but we will need to know their plans quickly to make changes to divisional assignments and representation, if needed."
The passage of Issue 1B now allows schools to request to move up to Division I on a sport-by-sport basis for the upcoming season in that sport. Schools will be sent a memo Thursday afternoon with details of the request process, which has a June 3 deadline for the upcoming fall and winter seasons. The deadline for 2025 spring sports will be set later. Once the OHSAA knows how many schools request to move up to Division I, the OHSAA will determine changes are needed to the previously announced divisional breakdowns and tournament representation.
"We are all interested to see how many schools request to move up to Division I," OHSAA Executive Director Doug Ute said. "With the expanded divisions in several sports, our goal is to have as close to 64 schools as possible in Divisions I and II, so we may have some adjusting to do in some sports if several Division II schools make the request to Division I. We know that June 3 is a quick turnaround for our schools, but we will need to know their plans quickly to make changes to divisional assignments and representation, if needed."
Agree, but I think posts about the guys I mentioned plus Kremer, Cupps, Trice, Jay Minton (Wayne football), Mo Douglas (Springfield football) get fairly equal "they recruit" and "their great coaching attracts kids" responses. I've never heard anyone say the great coaching at RH attracts kids.
You have now, tarblooder just said it.
Ha! I stand corrected. I will revise to say in general basketball circles around SWOH, I have never heard anyone talk about RH getting kids because of the amazing coaching.
That is understandable. I doubt many in Euclid heard or cared a lot about Deer Park over 5 years ago.
Many here talk about Flannery/Joyce/Casey (to be fair he coached here early in his career)/etc
Talk of coaches who are mobile is so different than talking of schools that are locked.